Songs that mention songs
Joseph C Fineman
And the Band Played
Waltzing Matilda mentions Waltzing Matilda
Cheatin' mentions Tennessee Waltz
City of New Orleans mentions Passengers Will Please Refrain
Harry Pollitt mentions Internationale
Old Zip Coon mentions Old Zip Coon
Sidewalks of New York mentions Rosie O'Grady,
London Bridge Is Falling Down
Tennessee Waltz mentions Tennessee Waltz
Turkey in the Straw mentions Turkey in the Straw
Whiffenpoof Song mentions Mavourneen,
Shall I, Wasting
Any others?
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495 Pleasant St., #1 (617) 324-6899
Malden, MA 02148
Tom Norulak
Joseph C Fineman (j...@world.std.com) wrote:
> And the Band Played
> Waltzing Matilda mentions Waltzing Matilda
> Cheatin' mentions Tennessee Waltz
> City of New Orleans mentions Passengers Will Please Refrain
> Harry Pollitt mentions Internationale
> Old Zip Coon mentions Old Zip Coon
> Sidewalks of New York mentions Rosie O'Grady,
> London Bridge Is Falling Down
> Tennessee Waltz mentions Tennessee Waltz
> Turkey in the Straw mentions Turkey in the Straw
> Whiffenpoof Song mentions Mavourneen,
> Shall I, Wasting
> Any others?
I Hear America Singin written by Shel Silverstein and sung by Bob Gibson
mentions a lot of different songs.
Tom
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"When you get to the fork in the road, Take it!"--Yogi Berra
CwgirlnSnd
Johnny Rivers-"All summer long we kept playing Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
Heart's Club Band"
how about a thread of artist mentioning other artists/bands?
Joe Felsenstein
In discussing songs that mention songs,
In article <DzBzE...@world.std.com>,
Joseph C Fineman <j...@world.std.com> wrote:
>City of New Orleans mentions Passengers Will Please Refrain
What song is that? I always thought that the lyric in C of NO
referred to the train conductor's "song" as a sarcastic description of their
oft-repeated announcements that "passengers will please refrain from
(flushing the toilet while the train is in the station, or smoking, or
whatever)".
Is there really a song called "Passengers Will Please Refrain"?
--
Joe Felsenstein j...@genetics.washington.edu (IP No. 128.95.12.41)
Dept. of Genetics, Univ. of Washington, Box 357360, Seattle, WA 98195-7360 USA
John Lupton
j...@evolution.genetics.washington.edu (Joe Felsenstein) wrote:
>In discussing songs that mention songs,
>In article <DzBzE...@world.std.com>,
>Joseph C Fineman <j...@world.std.com> wrote:
>>City of New Orleans mentions Passengers Will Please Refrain
>What song is that? I always thought that the lyric in C of NO
>referred to the train conductor's "song" as a sarcastic description of their
>oft-repeated announcements that "passengers will please refrain from
>(flushing the toilet while the train is in the station, or smoking, or
>whatever)".
>Is there really a song called "Passengers Will Please Refrain"?
You bet...my mother knew it as a child (and her grandfather was a
conductor on the Illinois Central). I forget the name of the tune it's
based on, but it's a well-known little ditty, to which the words were
added:
Passengers will please refrain
From flushing toilets while the train
Is standing at the station, I love you [well, that's how Mom sings]
We encourage constipation
While the train is at the station
If the train can't go, then why should you?
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Communications & Network Svcs
University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts & Sciences
email:jlu...@sas.upenn.edu (215) 898-4172
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Alexander Platt
Green Fileds of France : Flowers of the Forest
Harvest Moon : Elsie Marlie
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Alex Platt (LHO)
"Sooner or later everything turns to wallpaper."
Nathan Tenny
In article <541u7n$q...@nntp5.u.washington.edu>,
Joe Felsenstein <j...@evolution.genetics.washington.edu> wrote:
>In discussing songs that mention songs,
>In article <DzBzE...@world.std.com>,
>Joseph C Fineman <j...@world.std.com> wrote:
>>City of New Orleans mentions Passengers Will Please Refrain
>
>What song is that? I always thought that the lyric in C of NO
>referred to the train conductor's "song" as a sarcastic description of their
>oft-repeated announcements that "passengers will please refrain from
>(flushing the toilet while the train is in the station, or smoking, or
>whatever)".
>
>Is there really a song called "Passengers Will Please Refrain"?
There is indeed. There's some discussion of it in _The Erotic Muse_; some
great public figure (a Supreme Court justice, I think!) claims to have been
responsible for its birth.
See, he and some friends were on a commuter line in New York (possibly the
New York, New Haven and Hartford), and the train got stuck for a while
somewhere. In a car full of irritated, bored commuters, he and friends
found themselves reading a sign on the wall:
Passengers will please refrain
from flushing toilets while the train
is standing in or passing through a station.
They realized that this fit perfectly with some well-known tune,
and started singing; before long the whole car had taken it up, and for
years after, they claim, commuters on that line would regularly sing it
en masse.
This was, presumably, before the birth of the Sony Walkman. Sure can't
imagine it happening now...
NT
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Joseph C Fineman
jlu...@sas.upenn.edu (John Lupton) writes:
>j...@evolution.genetics.washington.edu (Joe Felsenstein) wrote:
>>Is there really a song called "Passengers Will Please Refrain"?
>You bet...my mother knew it as a child (and her grandfather was a
>conductor on the Illinois Central). I forget the name of the tune
>it's based on,
"Humoresque" is the tune.
>but it's a well-known little ditty, to which the words were added:
>Passengers will please refrain
>From flushing toilets while the train
>Is standing at the station, I love you [well, that's how Mom sings]
>We encourage constipation
>While the train is at the station
>If the train can't go, then why should you?
If you cannot hold your water,
Ring the bell and have the porter
Place a vessel in the vestibule
Every evening after dark,
I goose the statues in the park:
If Sherman's horse can take it, why can't you?
Persons working underneath
Will get it in their hair and teeth,
etc., etc.
Bill Bracewell
In article: <542qeu$n...@netnews.upenn.edu> jlu...@sas.upenn.edu
>
> j...@evolution.genetics.washington.edu (Joe Felsenstein) wrote:
>
> >Is there really a song called "Passengers Will Please Refrain"?
>
> You bet...my mother knew it as a child (and her grandfather was a
> conductor on the Illinois Central). I forget the name of the tune
it's
> added:
>
> Passengers will please refrain
> From flushing toilets while the train
> Is standing at the station, I love you [well, that's how Mom sings]
>
> We encourage constipation
> While the train is at the station
> If the train can't go, then why should you?
>
Humoresque?<g>. Ah! I've just looked at Ed Cray's book, the Erotic
Muse, and he says "the tune is borrowed from the concert piece by
Anton Dvorjak, the only classical composer so honoured".
Ed has some different words! Though some are the same <g>
HUMORESQUE
Passengers will please refrain
From flushing toilets while the train
Is standing in the station, I love you.
We encourage constipation
While the train is in the station
Moonlight always makes me think of you
If you really must pass water
Kindly call the Pullman porter
He'll place a vessel in your vestibule
As I sit here tearing tissue
Oh, my darling, how I miss you
Everything I do, I do for you.
Since I'm going with your daughter
I've had trouble passing water
Sorry that I ever came to town
I'm the guy that did the pushin'
Dirtied up the front seat cushion
Footprints on the dashboard upside down
Promenading in the park,
Goosing statues after dark
If Sherman's horse can take it why can't you
To the tune of Humoresque
From Digitrad - now at http://www.deltablues.com/dbsearch.html
- don't search for songs without it!
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Barnacle Bill
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William T. Yates
In article <543ubq$c...@newstand.syr.edu>, cry...@erc.cat.syr.edu (Carol
Ryken) wrote:
> Does anyone know if Judy Collins is still singing
> publicly, or where I can find out more about her?
>
> Thanks,
> Carol
She's appearing this week in the LA area.
--Bill Yates
--wty...@vcnet.com
--wty...@aol.com
--http://www.vcnet.com/wtyates/wtyates.html
John Lupton
In article <DzBzE...@world.std.com> j...@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman) writes:
>From: j...@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
>Subject: Songs that mention songs
>Summary: Whimsical category
>Keywords: Songs
>Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:59:09 GMT
>And the Band Played
> Waltzing Matilda mentions Waltzing Matilda
>Cheatin' mentions Tennessee Waltz
>City of New Orleans mentions Passengers Will Please Refrain
>Harry Pollitt mentions Internationale
>Old Zip Coon mentions Old Zip Coon
>Sidewalks of New York mentions Rosie O'Grady,
> London Bridge Is Falling Down
>Tennessee Waltz mentions Tennessee Waltz
>Turkey in the Straw mentions Turkey in the Straw
>Whiffenpoof Song mentions Mavourneen,
> Shall I, Wasting
>Any others?
Emmylou Harris: "Amarillo" mentions "The Window Up Above"
Bill Monroe: "Uncle Pen" mentions "Soldier's Joy", "Boston Boy" and "Jenny
Lind"
Buck Owens (with Emmylou):"Play 'Together Again'...Again" mentions "Together
Again"
Kitty Wells:"It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels" mentions "The Wild Side
Of Life"
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"Rural Free Delivery", WVUD-FM 91.3, Newark, Delaware
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Carol Ryken
Gerry Myerson
In article <DzBzE...@world.std.com>, j...@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
wrote:
>
> And the Band Played
> Waltzing Matilda mentions Waltzing Matilda
> Any others?
Phil Ochs' tribute to Woody Guthrie, Bound for Glory, mentions at least
a couple of Guthrie songs:
It's Pastures of Plenty sang the dustbowl balladeer
This land is Your Land he wanted us to hear
(or words to that effect).
Enda Kenny, an Australian of Irish extraction, wrote a song he calls
D. A. M. T. S. T. W. R., which stands for Don't Ask Me To Sing The Wild
Rover. In it, he mentions a bunch of other traditional Irish tunes he
doesn't want to sing. Eric Bogle has a song called Plastic Paddy, where
he complains about a pub entertainer mangling various Irish tunes,
which Bogle names.
American Pie names or makes reference to every song written during the
late 50s and early 60s....
Bob Dylan's 115th Dream has (something like)
Haul On The Bow Line, we sang that melody
Like all tough sailors do, when they're far away at sea
Brand New Tennessee Waltz (Jesse Winchester?) mentions --- you guessed it
--- Tennessee Waltz.
> Turkey in the Straw mentions Turkey in the Straw
I once tried to write a song that mentioned all and only those songs
that mentioned themselves, but I couldn't decide whether or not the song
I was writing should mention itself.
Gerry Myerson (ge...@mpce.mq.edu.au)
Rob Stiene
Joseph C Fineman wrote:
>
> And the Band Played
> Waltzing Matilda mentions Waltzing Matilda
Nanci Griffith’s "St. Olav's Gate" mentions both "Waltzing Matilda" and
"Clare de Lune" (sp?)
Regards...
Gail Buente
My favourite of this genre is one called "Midnight on the Water"... done by
some combination of Watersons & Carthys...well, ok, it doesn't actually
mention *songs*, only *tunes*, but it's lovely nonetheless.
Gail
mil...@ix.netcom.com
Hello there,
You might try contacting her management company:
Gurtman & Murtha's
450 Seventh Ave., Suite 603
New York, NY 10123
212-967-7350 voice 212-967-7341 fax
She recorded an album last year called "Shameless" and it is
distributed/marketed by Mesa/Bluemoon Records.(nice album too!)
William T. Yates wrote:
>
> In article <543ubq$c...@newstand.syr.edu>, cry...@erc.cat.syr.edu (Carol
> Ryken) wrote:
>
MIKE REGENSTREIF
In article <3265EA...@ix.netcom.com>, Rob Stiene <rst...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
>Nanci Griffith’s "St. Olav's Gate" mentions both "Waltzing Matilda" and
>"Clare de Lune" (sp?)
>
Nanci does indeed do a nice version of "St. Olav's Gate." However,
it's Tom Russell's song.
Mike Regenstreif
"Folk Roots/Folk Branches" on CKUT in Montreal
mre...@vax2.concordia.ca
Stephanie Woolley
Doesn't Cheryl Wheeler's "Mrs. Pinocci's Guitar" mention other songs?
Ian Anderson
Damn. Always knew I'd get turned into an anorak by reading this stuff!
"Going Back To Harlan" by Anna McGarrigle, in a nicely oblique way.
Ian Anderson
Folk Roots magazine
fro...@cityscape.co.uk
http://www.cityscape.co.uk/froots/
Stewa1
I saw Judy in a marvelous concert in a park in Springfield,Ohio last
August. She was VERY relaxed and comfortable with her audience and did
almost 2 hours!!
Commander Claus
In article <3266AD...@herald.infi.net>, woo...@herald.infi.net wrote:
>Doesn't Cheryl Wheeler's "Mrs. Pinocci's Guitar" mention other songs?
I know she mentions "Yankee Doodle" in it. I can't think of any other
songs she mentions by name in there, though.
Commander Claus
R F Minchin
Joseph C Fineman (j...@world.std.com) wrote:
: And the Band Played
: Waltzing Matilda mentions Waltzing Matilda
: City of New Orleans mentions Passengers Will Please Refrain
: Harry Pollitt mentions Internationale
: Old Zip Coon mentions Old Zip Coon
: Sidewalks of New York mentions Rosie O'Grady,
: London Bridge Is Falling Down
: Tennessee Waltz mentions Tennessee Waltz
: Whiffenpoof Song mentions Mavourneen,
: Shall I, Wasting
Fairytale of New York mentions Galway Bay
(Shane McGowen) Rare Oul' Mountain Dew
Encore mentions Four Green Fields
(Christy Moore Fields of Athenry
The Galway Shawl mentions Rodney's Glory
(? - sung by Sean Cannon/Dubliners) The Foggy Dew
The Blackbird
The Sack of Barley
<song about exiles> mentions Fields of Athenry
(off 'Dirty Rotten Shame - Ronnie Drew, Molly Malone
can't remember the author) Come Back Paddy Reilly to
Ballyjamesduff
Rob
Charles G Bobbish
Commander Claus
Let's see:
"Please Don't Make Me Too Happy" (Christine Lavin) -> "The 57th Street Bridge
Song (Feelin' Groovy)" (Simon & Garfunkle)
I'll think of others, I'm sure.
Simon van Dongen
B.Curtis/J.R.Robinson (the song is on Leon Redbone's "Sugar"):
Ghost of the St Louis Blues -> St. Louis Blues
Guy Clark (on Martin Simpson's "Special Agent"):
Desperadoes waiting for a train -> Red River Valley
Simon
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'My doctor says I have a malformed public duty gland and a
natural deficiency in moral fibre,' he muttered to himself,
'and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes.'
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Daryl Nagamine
I know this is primarily a folk music group, but this thread reminds me
of the hard rock group Golden Earring. In their song "Radar Love" they
sing "The radio plays a forgotten song -- Brenda Lee's 'Coming On
Strong'". I guess it truly was a forgotten song (for a hit that is),
because when I was in school, most of my friends couldn't figure out
what the lyrics were since they hadn't heard of Brenda Lee (let alone
any of her songs).
On a folk related note: The late Bob Gibson sang a Shel Silverstein tune
on one of his last CD's called "I Hear America Singing". In this one
song alone, these titles are mentioned:
Teensy Weensy Spider
Mercedes Benz (the Janis Joplin song)
Take Me Out to the Ball Game
Nearer My God To Thee
Sh-Boom
This Land Is Your Land
Wake Up Little Susie
Row, Row, Row Your Boat
Midnight Special
I've Been Workin' on the Railroad
Easter Parade
Bridge Over Troubled Water
plus a few other prominent lines from songs whose actual titles
aren't mentioned.
I'm dreadfully sorry if someone has already mentioned this, since I
missed the earlier replies, plus the fact that this post is so long.
Daryl Nagamine
Carl Westerling
In article <DzBzE...@world.std.com>, j...@world.std.com says...
>
>And the Band Played
> Waltzing Matilda mentions Waltzing Matilda
>Cheatin' mentions Tennessee Waltz
>City of New Orleans mentions Passengers Will Please Refrain
>Harry Pollitt mentions Internationale
>Old Zip Coon mentions Old Zip Coon
>Sidewalks of New York mentions Rosie O'Grady,
> London Bridge Is Falling Down
>Tennessee Waltz mentions Tennessee Waltz
>Turkey in the Straw mentions Turkey in the Straw
>Whiffenpoof Song mentions Mavourneen,
> Shall I, Wasting
>
Reading postings like this make me go and delve into the old vinyl collection.
The song that comes immediately to mind is Bill Caddick's "The Writing of Tipperary".
What a wonderful piece of songwriting.
Carl Westerling
Keith Dunnigan
In the "songs that mention the fiddle tunes that they were named after"
department are:
The Ballad of St Anne's Reel
The Tennesse Waltz
Bonaparte's Retreat
Each of these mentions a band playing the tune, proving that the chicken
*did* come after the egg.
Keith Dunnigan
Stephen Suffet
Greetings:
Nugent Bohem's "The Old Orange Flute" mentions "The Protestant
Boys," "Croppies Lie Down," "Kick the Pope," and "Boyne Water" -- all
very partisan Unionist songs from Northern Ireland.
Also, the Irish Nationalist song, "On the One Road," mentions
"Auld Lang Syne" by Robert Burns, "A Nation Once Again" by Thomas
Davis, and "A Soldier's Song" by Peadar Kearney. That last song is the
national anthem of Ireland.
Any others?
Kindest regards,
Steve Suffet
New York City
Paul M. Gifford
How about this one, sung to "Turkey in the Straw":
Oh, she set with her feet cocked up on a drum
And the dimples on her cheeks was as red as any plum
And the hair round her twat was strawberry roan
And the crabs around her ass sang "Home Sweet Home."
Paul Gifford
Enid Yvonne Karr
In <326737...@ix.netcom.com> Daryl Nagamine
<dnag...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
>I know this is primarily a folk music group, but this thread reminds
me
>of the hard rock group Golden Earring. In their song "Radar Love"
they
>sing "The radio plays a forgotten song -- Brenda Lee's 'Coming On
>Strong'". I guess it truly was a forgotten song (for a hit that is),
>because when I was in school, most of my friends couldn't figure out
>what the lyrics were since they hadn't heard of Brenda Lee (let alone
>any of her songs).
'Time marches On' (it is pretty dreadful) and it mentions Hank
Williams tunes (couldn't catch which) and Bob Dylan's 'Like a Rolling
Stone"
Robert G McCausland
ge...@mpce.mq.edu.au (Gerry Myerson) writes:
>Enda Kenny, an Australian of Irish extraction, wrote a song he calls
>D. A. M. T. S. T. W. R., which stands for Don't Ask Me To Sing The Wild
>Rover. In it, he mentions a bunch of other traditional Irish tunes he
>doesn't want to sing. Eric Bogle has a song called Plastic Paddy, where
>he complains about a pub entertainer mangling various Irish tunes,
>which Bogle names.
I once heard on radio a live-recorded performance of Eric Bogle doing a
similar song, which I imagine he titles, "Can You Sing Any Bob Dylan?"
On the sunny side,
~~Rob McCausland
rg...@world.std.com
Jeffrey J. Quisenberry
And then there's Basia's tribute to Astrud Gilberto, "Astrud", with
references and lines from a number of the latter's songs, including "Fly
Me to the Moon", "Meditation", "One Note Samba", "That Girl from
Ipanema" ("tall and tan and young and lovely"), and probably others I
don't recognize.
Regards,
Jeff
R F Minchin
R F Minchin (R.F.M...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
: Joseph C Fineman (j...@world.std.com) wrote:
: : And the Band Played
: : Waltzing Matilda mentions Waltzing Matilda
: : Cheatin' mentions Tennessee Waltz
: : City of New Orleans mentions Passengers Will Please Refrain
: : Harry Pollitt mentions Internationale
: : Old Zip Coon mentions Old Zip Coon
: : Sidewalks of New York mentions Rosie O'Grady,
: : London Bridge Is Falling Down
: : Tennessee Waltz mentions Tennessee Waltz
: : Turkey in the Straw mentions Turkey in the Straw
: : Whiffenpoof Song mentions Mavourneen,
: : Shall I, Wasting
: (Shane McGowen) Rare Oul' Mountain Dew
: Encore mentions Four Green Fields
: (Christy Moore Fields of Athenry
: The Galway Shawl mentions Rodney's Glory
: (? - sung by Sean Cannon/Dubliners) The Foggy Dew
: The Blackbird
: The Sack of Barley
: <song about exiles> mentions Fields of Athenry
: (off 'Dirty Rotten Shame - Ronnie Drew, Molly Malone
: can't remember the author) Come Back Paddy Reilly to
: Ballyjamesduff
Lisdoonvarna mentions Nancy Spain
(Christy Moore) Harry's Game
Four Green Fields
Rose of Trallee
Me and the Rose mentions Rose of Trallee
(Christy Moore)
Monto
(Hodnett, Dubliners) mentions Wearing of the Green
or Wedding in the Green
Rob
loquitur
> > Passengers will please refrain
> > From flushing toilets while the train
> > Is standing at the station, I love you [well, that's how Mom sings]
I once heard an interview with ex-Supreme Court justice William O.
Douglas in which he claimed that he and another jurist came up with the
first verse (above) from an actual sign. They added the "I love you"
part themselves and tacked it onto the Dvorak piece. Or so Douglas
claimed.
Frank Hamilton
American Pie The Book of Love
Frank Hamilton
Not to forget the "Band That Played Waltzing Matilda" (Erik Bogle)
Frank Hamilton
The "Old Orange Flute" plays "Croppies Lie Down" Tommy Makem
Stephen L Suffet
On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Frank Hamilton wrote:
> The "Old Orange Flute" plays "Croppies Lie Down" Tommy Makem
>
>
>
>
>
Dear Frank et al.---
I posted an item about "The Old Orange Flute" via AT&T Worldnet
nearly 24 hours ago, but it's not here yet on r.m.f, so I'll repost it
below.
"The Old Orange Flute" is by Nugent Bohem, not by Tommy Makem, and
it mentions four songs, all very partisan Unionist tunes from Northern
Ireland. They are: "The Protestant Boys," "Croppies Lie Down," "Kick the
Pope," and "Boyne Water."
On the other hand, the Irish Nationalist song, "On the One Road,"
mentions "Auld Lang Syne" by Robert Burns, "A Nation Once Again" by Thomas
Davis, and "A Soldier's Song" by Peadar Kearney. That last song is the
Irish national anthem.
Kindest regards,
Steve Suffet
MIKE REGENSTREIF
In Kate McGarrigle's "The Work Song," she refers to many of the parlor songs
and Stephen Foster songs that she learned from her father: "Home Sweet Home," "Aura Lee," "Camptown Races," "Oh Suzannah," Gentle Annie."
In Anna McGarrigle's "Goin Back to Harlan," there are direct or indirect references to "Shadey Grove," "The Bells of Rhymney," "Hangman's Reel,"
"Devil's Dream," "Willie Moore," and "Barbara Allen."
peggy
ek...@ix.netcom.com(Enid Yvonne Karr) wrote:
Which reminds me that Hootie's song "I Only Wanna Be With You" pays
great homage to "Tangled up in Blue" (ain't bobby so cool?)
peggy in nh.
peggy
just found another one..
AIN'T HURTIN' NOBODY
Words and music by John Prine
At the beach in Indiana
I was nine years old
Heard Little Richard singing "Tutti Frutti"
From the top of a telephone pole
----
the same thing happened to me at the beach in Indiana, except I must
have been about 5-6 years old, and the song at the top of the
telephone pole was "Under the Boardwalk", the first rock n roll song I
can remember.
can we start another thread, "songs about things that really happened
to us or someone we know?"
Ian S Goodman
Carol Ryken (cry...@erc.cat.syr.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know if Judy Collins is still singing
: publicly, or where I can find out more about her?
: Thanks,
: Carol
She is giving a benefit performace at Goucher College in Baltimore in the
beginning of November. She also has her own web page whose URL I cannot
seem to remember,
Ian Goodman
Jim Partridge
Lesser known, but more relevant because its *about* singing other songs, is
Robbie O'Connell's "You're not Irish," which mentions "Danny Boy," "Tura,
Lura, Lura," "Irish Eyes," and "McNamara's Band."
--
Jim.
Ken Connors
Dylan's "Sara" has a line, something like...
"Stayin' up days at the Chelsea Hotel writing 'Sad Eyed Lady of the
Lowlands' for you"
I saw Eric Bogle sing his song about doing Dylan...it included what was
absolutely the funniest impersonation of Dylan I've ever heard, I think
it was of the Times They are a-Changin'.
--
Ken Connors - Homestead, PA /~~\\ , , ,
con...@telerama.lm.com |#===||=========#***>
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Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Republican!
Magnus Paterson
Richard Thompson, in "Al Bowlly's in Heaven" sings:
We used to dance the whole night through
While Al Bowlly sang "The Very Thought of You"
--
Cheers,
Magnus
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**** Royal Observatory ph +44 (0)131 668 8247
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**** SCOTLAND web http://www.roe.ac.uk/mjpwww/
R F Minchin
Bill Bracewell (Bi...@bracewel.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article: <542qeu$n...@netnews.upenn.edu> jlu...@sas.upenn.edu
: (John Lupton) writes:
: >
: > j...@evolution.genetics.washington.edu (Joe Felsenstein) wrote:
: >
:
: > >Is there really a song called "Passengers Will Please Refrain"?
: >
: > You bet...my mother knew it as a child (and her grandfather was a
: > conductor on the Illinois Central). I forget the name of the tune
: it's
: > based on, but it's a well-known little ditty, to which the words
: were
: > added:
: >
The tune is definately Humouresque and the words I know are (only 1
verse):
When the train is in the station
Please refrain from urination
Have regard for railway property
If you need to pass some water
Kindly ask the railway porter
He'll direct you too the WC
I have also heard (off the person I learnt the words off) that he learnt
it off a BR (British Rail) advert in the 70's.
Rob Minchin
R F Minchin
Stephen L Suffet (sl...@columbia.edu) wrote:
: On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Frank Hamilton wrote:
: > The "Old Orange Flute" plays "Croppies Lie Down" Tommy Makem
: "The Old Orange Flute" is by Nugent Bohem, not by Tommy Makem, and
: it mentions four songs, all very partisan Unionist tunes from Northern
: Ireland. They are: "The Protestant Boys," "Croppies Lie Down," "Kick the
: Pope," and "Boyne Water."
The Old Orange Flute that I know (Dubliners, early 60's) is ascribed to
trad. and only
mentions The Protestant boys. This may be a different song.
I can't imagine Tommy Makem writing Unionist songs somehow.
Rob
Frank Hamilton
>I can't imagine Tommy Makem writing Unionist songs somehow.
No, I can't either, but Tommy is from Northern Ireland. I believe
County Armagh. He was the one that popularized "The Old Orange Flute"
in America.
Kenric A. Kite
Magnus Paterson wrote:
>
> Richard Thompson, in "Al Bowlly's in Heaven" sings:
>
Barry Drake, of somewhere near Albany, NY sings a song called, "Grandma's
Old Piano." The chorus goes:
It played, "When Irish Eyes are Smiling,"
"In the Good Old Summertime,"
"It Tore me Apart how You're Cheatin' Heart"
Always came out in ragtime,
"Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer,"
"By the Light of the Silvery Moon,"
Grandma's old piano played just a little bit out of tune.
-- :-)
ken...@together.net
Larry Maloy
In "Thank God I'm A Country Boy," John Denver sings about playing "Sally
Goodin."
John Lupton
In article <54o9hc$1...@newsreader.wustl.edu> ke...@wubios.wustl.edu (Keith Dunnigan) writes:
>From: ke...@wubios.wustl.edu (Keith Dunnigan)
>Subject: Re: Songs that mention songs
>Date: 24 Oct 1996 17:37:48 GMT
>MIKE REGENSTREIF <mre...@vax2.concordia.ca> wrote:
>: "Devil's Dream," "Willie Moore," and "Barbara Allen."
> Devil's Dream (the fiddle tune) is also mentioned in the 1970s country
> hit "Cherokee Fiddle" about an indian fiddler playing in Hondy tonks:
This jogs my memory enough to recall that Charlie Daniel's big hit "The Devil
Went Down To Georgia" mentions:
"Fire On The Mountain"
"The House Of The Rising Sun"
"Granny, Does Your Dog Bite?"
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Keith Dunnigan
MIKE REGENSTREIF <mre...@vax2.concordia.ca> wrote:
: "Devil's Dream," "Willie Moore," and "Barbara Allen."
Devil's Dream (the fiddle tune) is also mentioned in the 1970s country
hit "Cherokee Fiddle" about an indian fiddler playing in Hondy tonks:
...He was always there, playing for the miners,
"Devils Dream" was a song they understood.
Author unknown, sung by Johhny Lee.
Keith Dunnigan
Debbie Skolnik
On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Magnus Paterson wrote:
> Richard Thompson, in "Al Bowlly's in Heaven" sings:
>
> We used to dance the whole night through
> While Al Bowlly sang "The Very Thought of You"
How about "Harvest Of The Moon" on the newest Steeleye Span album, "TIME"
- they mention dancing to a tune called "Elsie Marley." BTW, if you like
Steeleye Span and haven't got this one yet...it's worth the investment,
IMHO.
Someone recently asked for the words to Elsie Marley, I think, which is
probably what made me think of the connection.
Debbie Skolnik
dsko...@access.digex.net
ds...@umail.umd.edu
Paul L. Madarasz
Wasn't it "Bob Dylan's 115th Dream" that mentions "Haul on the
Bowline"? (..we sang that melody/like all good sailors do/...)
Paul L. Madarasz
Tucson
Baja Arizona
"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
-- Ed Abbey
Stewa1
How about "And the Band Played 'Waltzing Matilda.'" The 'other' song is
right there in the title. There's a nice version of that one on the last
Joan Baez CD. Out of the folk vein is "Being in Love" from "The Music
Man" which mentions "In the Gloaming."
Mike Mooney
Larry Maloy wrote:
>
> In "Thank God I'm A Country Boy," John Denver sings about playing "Sally
> Goodin."
Bill Munroe's "Uncle Pen" mentions quite a few...
Mike
R F Minchin
Debbie Skolnik (dsko...@access.digex.net) wrote:
: How about "Harvest Of The Moon" on the newest Steeleye Span album, "TIME"
: - they mention dancing to a tune called "Elsie Marley." BTW, if you like
: Steeleye Span and haven't got this one yet...it's worth the investment,
: IMHO.
I didn't know I liked Steeleye Span until I bought it.
Rob
Stephanie Woolley
What about the Nanci Griffith song - "Sing one for Sister" - doesn't she
mention songs in there?
MIKE REGENSTREIF
In article <327534...@herald.infi.net>, Stephanie Woolley <woo...@herald.infi.net> writes:
>What about the Nanci Griffith song - "Sing one for Sister" - doesn't she
>mention songs in there?
"Sing One for Sister," which Nanci Griffith has recorded was written by
Robert Earl Keen (Jr.).
Mike Regenstreif
"Folk Roots/Folk Branches" n CKUT in Montreal
mre...@vax2.concordia.ca
Robert G McCausland
cwgir...@aol.com (CwgirlnSnd) writes:
>how about a thread of artist mentioning other artists/bands?
Anyone who's seen any of the Bitchin Babes concerts, Winter's
Night tours, etc., will remember the "contest" segment, where
each of the performers "compete" to come up with one of their
songs that meets criteria on cards drawn from audience
submissions. For this criteria, John Gorka could offer "BB King
Was Wrong," which mentions "The Thrill Is Gone."
However, he might be beat out by Christine Lavin, whose "Ballad
of a Ballgame" opens mentioning Janis Ian and ends paraphasing
"Take Me Out to the Ballgame." (That opening couplet, by the
way, would be a strong contender for the thread here some months
ago - Most Strained Rhymes: `Do you remember that song by Janis
Ian? The one where she talks about not getting picked for the
basketball te-am.') Or, Chris could offer instead her parody of
Suzanne Vega, "I Want to Be a Mysterious Woman."
Here are some others examples I've foraged for this thread,
broken out into a rough taxonomy. I combine here songs that
mention other songs with the suggested companion thread, songs
that mention other musicians.
AND THE BAND PLAYED ON
"Fare Thee Well, Titanic"
The band played "Nearer My God to Thee"
also mentions "The Eagle Rock."
Bruce Springsteen's "[Me and Frankie?]" from Nebraska
While the band played "The Night of the Johnstown Flood."
Bill Staines' "Roseville Fair"
I can hear them now, playin' "Comin' through the Rye."
Joni Mitchell's "Hejira"
Listen, strains of Benny Goodman coming
Through the snow and the pinewood trees
Battlefield Band's "Band of a Thousand Chances" - a 12-minute
medley of numerous dance tunes, pipe tunes, etc, many of which
are named in the lyrics, along with many other songs.
Paul Simon's "[That Was Your Mother?]" from Graceland mentions
dancing to the tunes of Clifton Chenier.
And does Mary Chapin Carpenter's "Saturday Night at the Twist and
Shout" actually *mention* Michael Doucett and Beusoleil, or do
they merely appear in the video?
TRIBUTES - From the sublime:
Tom Paxton's "Did You Hear John Hurt?" mentions "Candyman" and
"Creole Belle."
Bob Dylan's "Song to Woody" - refers to "Pastures of Plenty" and
"Hard Travelin'."
Ralph McTell's "Zimmerman Blues."
Sonny Curtis' "The Real Buddy Holly Story" - mentions "That'll
Be the Day" and many performers too numermous to list. I don't
know where you can buy this. It opens the Paul McCartney 1986
film documentary of the same name (produced by MPL Comm. and BBC,
distributed by Sony). It's now out of print, I'm told. Shame,
'cause it's one terrific film!
Eddie Cochran's "Three New Stars in Heaven" about Buddy Holly,
Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper.
Paul Simon's "Graceland" and Aztec Two Step's "Velvet Elvis."
Aztec Two Step's "Johnny's an Angel" (about John Lennon), and
Russ Barenberg's instrumental tribute to John Lennon, "For JL."
Mimi Farina's "In the Quiet Morning (for Janis Joplin)."
Robin and Linda Williams' "Rollin' and Ramblin' (The Death of
Hank Williams)."
The Guess Who's "Lightfoot," about Gordon Lightfoot.
Joe Jackson's "The Man who Wrote `Danny Boy'."
Joni Mitchell's "Judgement of the Moon and Stars (Ludwig's
Tune)," and "Furry Sings the Blues."
(TRIBUTES - cont.) To the Ridiculous:
Steve Goodman's "Imitation Elvis" mentions songs too numerous to
list. (Steve also scores with "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request,"
quoting `Na na na na - hey hey hey - goodbye.')
Loudon Wainwright's "Talking New Bob Dylan."
I don't know where this appears for purchase, either. I taped it
off NPR's "Morning Edition" - a birthday tribute to Dylan. It
mentions several Dylan songs and albums, as well as a few of the
"new" Dylans - Forbert, Prine, Springsteen.
Loudon also mentions Pete Townsend in "Red Guitar":
Used to have a red guitar til I burned it one drunk night
Burned it in a classic form, as Peter Townsend might.
Charlie King's "Vaguely Reminiscient of the Sixties" is almost
entirely pitched as a Dylan vehicle. In fact, he cops the "Just
Like a Woman" melody in one verse:
And as I watch them go
Amazed they do not know
They could learn so much from
Barry Manilow
But they're so vaguely reminscient of the sixties.
Hank Williams, Jr. & Don Williams's "The Ballad of Hank Williams,"
done to the tune of "The Battle of New Orleans." (I believe it's
also Hank Jr. that does "I Don't Think Hank Woulda'a Done it This
A'way.")
And is this Commander Cody's? "I'll Fix your Flat Tire, Merle."
I'll fix your flat tire, Merle
Don't you get your sweet country-pickin fingers
All covered with earl.
You're a honky, I know, but Merle, you got soul
So I'll change your flat tire, Merle.
It refers, though not by title, to "Okie from Muskogee."
Reilly and Maloney's "Did Beethoven do the Dishes?" mentions
several composers.
OTHER SHORT TAKES
Jim Ringer's "Grandma Whistlin `What a Friend We Have in Jesus'."
John Alan Cameron's "Good Times" mentions "Song for the Myra."
"Scotland Settler's Lament" mentions "Auld Lang Syne" (written by
Sandy Glendenning, recorded by Stan Rogers, and The Tannahill
Weavers, among others).
Paul Simon's "You Can Call Me Al" mentions scatterlings, refering
to the title of the Johnny Clegg/Juluka WEA album and song,
"Scatterlings of Africa."
SONGS NAMED AFTER FIDDLE TUNES
MacPherson's Lament. Also, can include here, from Michelle
Shocked's Arkansas Traveler, "Over the Waterfall," if not
"Prodigal Daughter (Cotton-Eyed Joe)."
SONGS ABOUT SINGING
As already mentioned, Robbie O'Connell's "You're Not Irish."
Also - a song performed by Garrison Keilor, with at least Robin
and Linda Williams, on a Prairie Home Companion from 1983, title
unknown. The verse laments the loss, having moved to town from
the country, of the times spent singing together with family and
friends. Each verse ends with a song title, succeeded by the
chorus of that particular song. The songs so chorused are:
"Angels Hovering Round," "Devoted to You," "Tell Me Why the Stars
Do Shine," "When the Stars Begin to Fall (Saints)," and "Amazing
Grace."
There is a similar tribute to family sings I once heard a British
singer do - Tony Capstick, perhaps, or someone with something
like a cockney accent. Does anyone know this one? He talks
about hours-long parties when he was a child - mentions a paper
and comb - the chorus lists several of their standard songs,
ending something like:
And "Walking My Baby Back Home"
And when we come to the end
It's `Let's sing it again'
They don't write them like that anymore.
Honorable mention to Robin & Linda Williams for their "High
Atmosphere." Doesn't mention any specific songs, but rather a
specific kind of song, in a specific (though un-specified) time
and place.
"Ten Pound Radio" by ? - mentions "Searchin'" and "Alley Oop",
and a number of doo-wop groups.
AND RADIO SHOWS
Hilo Brown's "Grand Ole Opry Song" (appears on the Nitty Gritty's
Will the Circle Be Unbroken, Vol. 1). Mentions virtually everyone
who's appeared regularly on the Opry.
Robin and Linda Williams also enter this category with their
"Ballad of Bunny and Chip." I haven't seen this one on CD,
either. They performed it on Prairie Home Companion. A
cautionary tale, it depicts a marriage's dissolution brought
about by a Prairie Home Companion addition.
SELF-REFERENTIAL
Joni Mitchell's "Amelia" from "Hejira"
I pulled into the Cactus Tree Motel
refers to "Catcus Tree" from her first released album, "Song to a
Seagull."
Pete Townsend's "The Song is Over" from "Who's Next" ends with:
Only one note, pure and easy,
Playing so free like a breath rippling by
quoting his song "Pure and Easy" from "Who Came First."
On the sunny side,
~~Rob McCausland
rg...@world.std.com
Abby Sale
I just received the new Robb/Posen/Downey (ie, Finest Kind) CD, _Lost in a
Song_
I recommend it if you like close harmony from people that are more than
just a little familiar with the folk music stuff. Some of the pieces are
remarkable.
Song "Fa-Sol-La" is about a feller's first encounter with the _Sacred
Harp_ & mentions "Showers of Blessings" and then sings a bit of it.
Gives Posen a chance to trot out a bit of the _Sacred Harp_ stuff he's
been much involved in recently.
Ian Robb/Finest Kind web site is given on the CD:
http://www.magi.com/~ianrobb/
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from (finally) abby...@orlinter.com
It is a clear matter of callus, joint-self-interest that the Democratic
& Republican parties conspire to foster the myth that between them they
represent the full spectrum of legitimate political option. They don't.
Mary Cal Hollis is running for president.
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J J Mooney
Robert you left one of the most obvious ones out!
Paul Simon The Late Great Johnny Ace, where he sings about both Johnny
Ace and John Lennon ( in the song he also mentions the Beatles, Stones
and JFK)
Good List tho' :o)
Mooney