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Marshall D Abrams

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Apr 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/28/96
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Are there any sites providing folk mustic via Real Audio or any of the
other streaming protocols? I don't always get to listen to the only
radio show that I can receive. I'd like to be able to tune in when in
the mood. Suggestions welcome.

Kamm2MacD

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Apr 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/28/96
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Yes, music is accessable with Real Audio on artist's pages at the NOMA
site.... Just search for NOMA.... or better yet, check out our page
there!!...
http://songs.com/noma/kammac

Eleanore

Paul Kamm & Eleanore MacDonald
Freewheel Records
'neo-impressionist folk music'
kamm...@aol.com
kam...@netshel.net

Lesley Henneberger

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Apr 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/30/96
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You can find midi files of folk music at Barry Taylor's site:
http://www.islandnet.com/~btaylor/homepage.htm#Midi Files

or mine
http://www.epix.net/~lesley/folk.html

Not sure this helps - hate to show my ignorance but in an effort to
stamp it out - is midi a "streaming protocol"?

Lesley Henneberger

les...@epix.net
http://www.epix.net/~lesley

Folk Music Midi Page at:
http://www.epix.net/~lesley/folk.html

Turlough Carolan Page at:
http://www.epix.net/~lesley/carolan.html

anthony linden jones

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Apr 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/30/96
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Hi,

The Cornish Media Archive has RealAudio music for the bands Poll Pri
and my band - The Ragged Band.

They are at:

http://www.liv.ac.uk/~evansjon/cornish/intro.html

If you are interested in buying The Ragged Band CD, the best way to
get it is through Aussie Music Online:

http://www.aussiemusic.com.au/

tony jones, fiddle
The Ragged Band
Sydney, Australia
email: ajo...@extro.ucc.su.oz.au

anthony linden jones

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May 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/5/96
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Marshall D Abrams wrote:
>
> Are there any sites providing folk mustic via Real Audio or any of the
> other streaming protocols? I don't always get to listen to the only
> radio show that I can receive. I'd like to be able to tune in when in
> the mood. Suggestions welcome.

Yes!

The Cornish Media Archive has music of Poll Pri and of The Ragged
Band. They are at:

http://www.liv.ac.uk/~evansjon/cornish/intro.html

I suggest you download the pieces first, unless you have a really fast
and reliable link.

cheers
tony jones,fiddle

Roger McGuinn

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May 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/10/96
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On Saturday, May 04, 1996, anthony linden jones wrote...

There are .WAV files of traditional songs in the Folk Den:
http://www.uark.edu/~kadler/rmcguinn/FolkDen/index.html

-Roger


Wes Hopper

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May 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/13/96
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>On Saturday, May 04, 1996, anthony linden jones wrote...
>> Marshall D Abrams wrote:
>> >
>> > Are there any sites providing folk mustic via Real Audio or any
of the
>> > other streaming protocols?


Take a look at KPIG radio at www.kpig.com. They've been doing live
broadcasts, and although they're not "pure folk" in their format,
they play a lot of acoustic music. It's not music on demand, but its
a chance to hear some new stuff.

Wes

J. Stephen Coyle

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May 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/15/96
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There is a site called AudioNet that provides _full albums_ on demand for
the Real Audio software.

All kinds of music is represented, including folk .... why, may I
recommend a humble folk album called The Frontmen ... just look under "F"
in the index.

http://ww2.AudioNet.com/jukebox.htm

And do let me know what you think.
--
J. Stephen Coyle
THE FRONTMEN
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Daniel Herman

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May 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/15/96
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I'm wondering what people's experience is with Real Audio. Try as I
might, I can never seem to get adequate sound quality over it (this with
a fast modem on a 486 machine).

dan

Cliff

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May 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/16/96
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Try as you will, you WON'T get adequate sound quality over something like Real Audio... it just
isn't good. Music has to be mashed into a tiny little stream, from 32bit, 44KhZ sound down to 8
or 16 bit, 11KhZ, then further altered to make it into a small enough piece of information to
run in quasi-real-time over a phone line.

It's like squeezing a gallon of milk into a one pint container... you can condense it, but it
just don't taste the same......

--


cliff furnald
cl...@rootsworld.com
RootsWorld: http://www.rootsworld.com/rw/
Dirty Linen: http://www.dirtynelson.com/linen/
Hollow Ear http://www.hear.com/hollow/

John G. Alvord

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May 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/17/96
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Cliff <cl...@rootsworld.com> wrote:

>Try as you will, you WON'T get adequate sound quality over something like Real Audio... it just
>isn't good. Music has to be mashed into a tiny little stream, from 32bit, 44KhZ sound down to 8
>or 16 bit, 11KhZ, then further altered to make it into a small enough piece of information to
>run in quasi-real-time over a phone line.
>
>It's like squeezing a gallon of milk into a one pint container... you can condense it, but it
>just don't taste the same......
>

It certainly isn't CD quality, but it is OK to listen to. Most music is
highly compressible. From moment to moment the information is largely
the same. So they can compress 4-5 seconds of music down to 2 sec...
then that 2 seconds can slide through the network while the previous 5
seconds of music is played. You don't need the whole 44K bandwidth,
usually way less then half is needed.

of course the network gets messed up, loses packets... you decide to
save a mondo document and your system stops listening. Then you get gaps
and static and warbles. But for the price, it is a great way to sample.

The fact that CDs are better in many ways also means that artists and
record companies won't worry about anyone "stealing" the music.

john Alvord

Cliff

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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It's not just a mater of CD sound is better.. that goes without saying. But I think I'd rather
download a small 30 second sample and get a better idea of the sound than listen to 4 minutes
of truly reduced quality real Audio. The difference in quality between even a 8bit, 11KhZ .au
sample and what you get "live" on real audio schemes is really VERY different. I'll take the
three minute wait for some vague quality over the instant gratification of RA any time.

But, hey... what ever floats... etc etc....

Nate Goldshlag

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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In article <319cc35a...@NEWS.CLOUD9.NET>, ja...@cloud9.net (John G.
Alvord) wrote:

> It certainly isn't CD quality, but it is OK to listen to.

It sounds like a crappy AM radio to me.

Nate

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Kenneth Burns

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May 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/23/96
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In article <nate-22059...@ip39-max1-bos.zipnet.net>,

Nate Goldshlag <na...@reflection.com> wrote:
>In article <319cc35a...@NEWS.CLOUD9.NET>, ja...@cloud9.net (John G.
>Alvord) wrote:
>
>> It certainly isn't CD quality, but it is OK to listen to.
>
>It sounds like a crappy AM radio to me.
>

I sorta like the way AM radio sounds. Hi-fi is overrated.

Ken


Daniel Herman

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May 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/23/96
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Several months ago there was some discussion of jug and washtub great
Fritz Richmond. Someone noted that he was performing with John
Sebastian. Sebastian has released a new CD entitled "I Want My Roots" on
MusicMasters (distributed by BMG) which I recently got my hands on.
Richmond is indeed on the disc along with Paul Rishell, Jimmy Vivino,
James Wormworth, Annie Raines, Rory Block with guest appearances by
Richard Crooks, John Simon and 85-year-old Yank Rachell.

It's a great combination of jug band songs (originals and some old
standbys)and some funky country blues. Rory Block is a standout on
vocals. A little more of the tub and jug would have improved it IMHO but
you can't have everything!

Janet Ruhl

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May 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/24/96
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Cliff <cl...@rootsworld.com> wrote:
>It's not just a mater of CD sound is better.. that goes without saying. But I think I'd rather
>download a small 30 second sample and get a better idea of the sound than listen to 4 minutes
>of truly reduced quality real Audio. The difference in quality between even a 8bit, 11KhZ .au
>sample and what you get "live" on real audio schemes is really VERY different. I'll take the
>three minute wait for some vague quality over the instant gratification of RA any time.
>
>But, hey... what ever floats... etc etc....

Well, since I run a RealAudio site, I obviously disagree. <G> As a songwriter, I
find it impossible to judge the quality of any music from a 30 second clip. Plus
I find that most of the 30 second clips I have downloaded make no musical sense.
The authors are familiar with their music, and don't realize that I, the listener
am not. I find these clips disorienting and boring and after wasting an afternoon
downloading a bunch of them, I pretty much gave up on the process. Not worth my
time and energy.

There's another issue here too which concerns me. If you upload entire CD quality
songs, people have zero incentive to buy your music. With the cruddy RA format,
they can hear enough to decide if the CD is worth buying while having NO incentive
to just replay the downloaded file. This avoids the whole copyright infringement
issue very nicely. I'm not sure I'd put my stuff out in public in CD format even
if it could be downloaded in a few seconds for that reason.

--Janet Ruhl


http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Technion
<<The Technion Books Coffeehouse - A RealAudio site featuring original songwriting,
changing weekly>>

J. Stephen Coyle

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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I'd have to agree with Janet here ... it is very valuable for artists to
be able to point potential CD buyers and venue operators to a site
like AudioNet where they can get a taste of the music in a
"quick-and-dirty" format that doesn't take time to download.

On the other hand, I can't see myself turning to a Real Audio site for an
evening's music. Like everything else, RA has its uses and its
limitations.

Amen

--
J. Stephen Coyle
THE FRONTMEN

http://frontmen.com

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