Eric Bogle/And The Band Played Waltzing Mathilda
John Rowley
> Can anyone tell me if Eric Bogle is the composer of this song? Sources
> such as BMI and ASCAP have told me the song is "traditional", but I fear
> they may be confusing it with the original Waltzing Mathilda. Is it an
> Eric Bogle composition, or is his version simply an arrangement of a
> traditional song? Also, any other publisher information you might have,
> including a performing rights society affiliation (ASCAP, BMI, SESAC,
> etc.) would be appreciated. Thanks for the help!
> --Nancy
"And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" (no h) is an original song by
Eric Bogle. I can't be sure of the copyright, as I've lent the album
to a mate, but other of his works of the same period are copyright and
published by Banksiaman Music, Sydney Australia (Larrikin Records Pty Ltd),
but the copyright is stated as "for Aust.& N.Z." so that might not
help you.
Waltzing Matilda is NOT a "traditional" song in the usual sense; it was
a poem by Australian writer Andrew "Banjo" Patterson, and has been put
to a few different tunes, the most well known one not in my opinion the
best. The last I heard the copyright is held by a U.S. company, and
there was a small political storm a couple of years ago over our
"other national anthem" not being owned by Autralians! There was week
long festival held recently in W.A. to celebrate the song's centenary.
jr
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Andy Seagroatt
(Michael Croft) writes:
> > Waltzing Matilda is NOT a "traditional" song in the usual sense; it was
> > a poem by Australian writer Andrew "Banjo" Patterson, and has been put
> > to a few different tunes, the most well known one not in my opinion the
> > best.
>
> I'm interested in the other tunes to this song. I know that one is called
> the "Queensland version." I know I can't ask someone to hum it over
> USENET, but I'd be interested in recordings with other tunes, or sheet
> music for them.
>
> Anyone?
There is a version of Waltzing Matilda with a different tune on the album The Great Australian
Legend - A panorama of Balladry and Song arranged by A.L.Lloyd.
I don't know whether it is still available but it was produced by Topic, 12TS 203 and released
in 1971.
In the sleeve notes Bert Lloyd says:
Austrailia's 'unofficial national antherm'. Who made it? Banjo Paterson claims the words,
written at Dagworth Station, near Winton, Queensland, in 1895. The most-used tune is
variously credited to Mrs Marie Cowan, Miss Christina McPherson (sister of Robert
McPherson, the Dagworth manager), and to Josephine Pene (some say a barmaid, some
say a piano teacher: not that the one rules the other out), also of Winton who seems to have
the strongest claim of all. The version here in words and tune, runs a bit differently from the
usual; it has been popularised by the poet and anthologist John Manifold and it gives new life
to an otherwise hackneyed song. By the way, on September 17, 1900, Miss Pene gave birth
to a son named Robert Dagworth McPherson Pene.
--
Andy Seagroatt, Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
"Frankly scallop, I don't give a clam ... Rhett Lobster"
Michael Croft
(John Rowley) wrote:
> Waltzing Matilda is NOT a "traditional" song in the usual sense; it was
> a poem by Australian writer Andrew "Banjo" Patterson, and has been put
> to a few different tunes, the most well known one not in my opinion the
> best.
I'm interested in the other tunes to this song. I know that one is called
the "Queensland version." I know I can't ask someone to hum it over
USENET, but I'd be interested in recordings with other tunes, or sheet
music for them.
Anyone?
--
Michael Croft
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WaltzPrint
Meredith, was recorded by John Greenway on his album "Australian
Folksongs and Ballads" (Folkways FW 8718). To the best of my
knowledge, Smithsonian/Folkways has not officially re-released
that recording, but you can always get a cassette by writing to them.
Bob Waltz
Peter Dwyer
>> Waltzing Matilda is NOT a "traditional" song in the usual sense; it was
>> a poem by Australian writer Andrew "Banjo" Patterson, and has been put
>> to a few different tunes, the most well known one not in my opinion the
>> best.
>I'm interested in the other tunes to this song. I know that one is called
>the "Queensland version." I know I can't ask someone to hum it over
>USENET, but I'd be interested in recordings with other tunes, or sheet
>music for them.
>Anyone?
John,
There is still some disagreement as to whether Patterson actually wrote it.
Anyway, if you want to hear the Queensland version, you should hear it on just
about any Bushwackers compilation. There was also a parody doing the rounds
just after the controversial Azaria Chambelain episode. If I can find the
words, I'll post them on this newsgroup.
Peter Dwyer, Melbourne, Australia.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Peter Dwyer
This parody was in circulation in the early 1980's after the disappearance of
AzariaChamberlain at Ayers Rock. Her parents claimed that she'd been taken by
a dingo but hermother (Lindy) was eventually charged and convicted of her
murder. The conviction wasoverturned after appeal and Lindy Chamberlain was
pardoned. The whole episode remainsunresolved today.
Her parents (who have since gone their own separate ways) were staunch Seventh-Day
Adventists. Her father, Michael Chamberlain was a pastor of the church. Hence the
reference in the first verse and chorus. The episode was even turned into a feature
film (Evil Angels) starring Meryl Streep as Lindy Chamberlain.
I have no opinion either way. I'm merely passing on this parody as it was circulating
in the folk tradition around the time......
Once a Jolly Pastor .... sung to the tune of "Waltzing Matilda"
Once a jolly pastor
Camped in a caravan
Under the shade of a Kurrajong tree
And he sang as he prayed as he watched the baby's bottle boil
You'll be a Seventh Day Adventist like me
Seventh Day Adventist, Seventh Day Adventist You'll be a Seventh Day Adventist like me
And he sang as he prayed as he watched the baby's bottle boil
You'll be a Seventh Day Adventist like me
Down came Lindy to snatch up Azaria
She picked up the scissors and stabbed her with glee
And she smiled as she shoved the baby in her camera bag
It's fun being a Seventh Day Adventist like me
Seventh day ....
Out came the dingo nosing round the campfire
Lindy winked at Michael and said it wasn't me
What happened to the baby you put in the camera bag?
Give it to the dingo and you'll get off scot free
Give it to the dingo, Give it to the dingo
Give it to the dingo and you'll get off scot free
What happened to the baby you put in the camera bag?
Give it to the dingo and you'll get off scot free
Up jumped the dingo and ran past the camera bag
You'll never blame her murder on me
And Azaria's ghost may be heard as you pass by that Kurrajong
Mummy was the one who did away with me.....
And there's also this parody which was doing the rounds about 15 years ago. I think that
it may have come from a "bush cabaret artist" who operated under the name of Lazy Harry.
Once a Jolly Hedgehog
Once a jolly vagabond camped by a lily-pond
Under the shade of a big oak tree
And he sang as he watched as he waited till his kettle boiled
Who'll come a'walking a bulldog with me?
Walking a bulldog, Walking a bulldog, Who'll come a'Walking a bulldog with me?
And he sang as he watched as he waited till his kettle boiled
Who'll come a'walking a bulldog with me?
Up came a hedgehog to drink from the lilly pond
Up jumped the vagabond and grabbed him with glee
And he sang as he shoved that hedgehog in his picnic basket
Who'll come a'walking a bulldog with me?
Down came the constable riding on his bicycle
Up jumped the gamewardens one two three
Whose is the hedgehog you have in your picnic basket?
Who'll come a'walking a bulldog with me?
Up jumped the vagabond and jumped into the lily-pond
You'll never catch me alive says he
And his ghosyt may be heard as you pass by the lily-pond
Who'll come a'walking a bulldog with me?
Michael Croft
(Peter Dwyer) wrote:
> Peter Dwyer, Melbourne, Australia.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Please do. Also please post a summary of the controversial Azaria
Chambelain episode. I'm afraid that in the States, our knowledge of All
Things Australian comes from Eric Bogle, ESPN coverage of Australian Rules
Football, and the odd expatriate that we went to college with. (His name
was Stephen and yes, he was significantly odd...)
--
Michael Croft
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DAVEL00MIS
Here's the Queensland Tune for Waltzing Matilda, set out as a QBASIC
program. Save this E-Mail as WALTZ.BAS, either in your DOS Directory, or
in a SONGS Sub Directory under the DOS Directory. After you have exited
AOL, run QBASIC, either from DOS, or by using File Manager, or Program
Manager ( ALT F, R, [type in c:\dos\qbasic ENTER]. When QBASIC comes up,
load WALTZ.BAS, by pressing ALT, F, O, [type in WALTZ.BAS]. Once this
entire message appears on the screen, remove these instructions, and press
F5. Sit back, Enjoy.
Dave
10 CLS
12 REM 120 is right for PBI (Aussie for Poor Bloody Infantry)
13 REM but since this is ersatz 6/8 we'll make it 180,
14 REM and also put the skippiness back in to it with
15 REM dotted notes ... quite jaunty, now, don't you think?
50 PLAY "O3 T180"
60 PRINT "Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong"
70 PLAY " C4 C8 C4 C8 >C4. C4. <A4 G8 A4 B8 A4 G8 E4 D8"
80 PRINT "Under the shade of a coolibah tree, and he"
90 PLAY " C4. C4 C8 >C4. C4 C8 <A4 A8 A4. G4. A4 B8 "
100 PRINT "Sang as he watched and waited til his billy boiled"
110 PLAY " >C4. D4 C8 <B4. G4. A4 G8 A4 B8 A4 G8 E4 D8"
120 PRINT "Who'll come a'waltzing Matilda with me"
130 PLAY " C4. C4 C8 >C4. C4 C8<D4. E4 D8 C2."
140 PRINT "The chorus ... "
160 PRINT "Who'll come a'waltzing Matilda, me Da-ar-li-in'"
170 PLAY " C4. C4 C8 >C4. C4 C8<A4 G8 A4 B8 A4 G8 E4 D8"
180 PRINT "Who'll come a'waltzing Matilda with me, and he"
190 PLAY " C4. C4 C8 >C4. C4 C8<A4. A4 A8 G4. A4 B8 "
210 PRINT "Sang as he watched and waited til his billy boiled"
220 PLAY ">C4. D4 C8 <B4. G4. A4 G8 A4 B8 A4 G8 E4 D8"
230 PRINT "Who'll come a'waltzing Matilda with me"
240 PLAY " C4. C4 C8>C4.C4 C8<D4. E4 D8 C2."
Dave Loomis
18 Water St.
Epping, NH 03042
USA
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AbbySale
is, I think, a good way to send single tunes to the group. Unfortunately,
not everyone is smart enough to have a PC and use DOS, so not everyone has
basica or qbasic.
The clever people at Digital Tradition can accept songs in that format for
inclusion in the next edition, too.
Minor technical suggestion. The lines at the end have to also be deleted
or Remarked out (insert a ' before each line to be Remarked out.)
You _might_ wish to make the very last line:
5000 '
and the very first line:
ON KEY(7) GOSUB 5000 : KEY(7) ON
This would permit one to stop the song (as soon as it reaches the end of a
line)
by pressing F7.