ARRRGH! What To Expect as a Panelist
Shadowe_Lover
VikingCon, in order for me to get a free membership, I have to be on a
panel....Me who Knows Nothing about Cons, is Not an Actual Filker, or
anyone really important....soooooo
What should I expect to have happen as a Panelist?
Blessings,
Shadowe Lover
<who is now shaking in her boots....cuz her normal response is often *I Dunno*>
Joe Ellis
Shadow...@mystarship.com (Shadowe_Lover) wrote:
>Ok folks...I just got told, that despite all I am trying to do for
>VikingCon, in order for me to get a free membership, I have to be on a
>panel....Me who Knows Nothing about Cons, is Not an Actual Filker, or
>anyone really important....soooooo
>
>What should I expect to have happen as a Panelist?
Depends on the panel. Either pick one you know something about, or be a
_moderator_ on one. (That way you just keep order, and don't have to know
what you're talking about! <<grin>>
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Shadowe_Lover
13070113...@user-37kapfh.dialup.mindspring.com:
> Depends on the panel. Either pick one you know something about, or be a
> _moderator_ on one. (That way you just keep order, and don't have to know
> what you're talking about! <<grin>>
Hmmm, this would be easy except for one thing...they have no real panels
set up yet...the ConCom chair is asking me to come up with ideas....sigh...
Ideaas Anyone?????
Blessings,
SHadowe Lover
<who may decide to be ConCom for VikingCon next year despite her best
advice....LOL cause I am a Virgo, over analize and Conquor!>
Joe Ellis
Shadow...@mystarship.com (Shadowe_Lover) wrote:
>fil...@mindspring.com (Joe Ellis) wrote in news:filker-
>13070113...@user-37kapfh.dialup.mindspring.com:
>
>
>> Depends on the panel. Either pick one you know something about, or be a
>> _moderator_ on one. (That way you just keep order, and don't have to know
>> what you're talking about! <<grin>>
>
>Hmmm, this would be easy except for one thing...they have no real panels
>set up yet...the ConCom chair is asking me to come up with ideas....sigh...
>
>Ideaas Anyone?????
Even better!
What would _you_ like hearing "experts" talk about? Favorite novels and
why? The physics behind ST vs B5? What con virgins should know at their
first con? (that would be a good one for you to moderate - you could ask
the questions the other newbies are too afraid to ask!)
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Karen Rodgers
(Shadowe_Lover) wrote:
>Hmmm, this would be easy except for one thing...they have no real panels
>set up yet...the ConCom chair is asking me to come up with ideas....sigh...
>
>Ideaas Anyone?????
What are you interested in, know a lot about, and can tie into the
con? There's your starting point.
Karen Rodgers
marty l. adkins
or Learn to Dance the Headless Chicken in one easy lesson.
Host a filking 101 panel [the new lead the newer, and both fall into
the filk]. But call it something else, & have it in the afternoon,
the better to lure the victims in. Maybe start w/campfire songs &
other familiar parodies--remember how they started a lot of discussion
here last week?--& go from there. Maybe you could get some help from
a Certain Person; have the audience suggest any subject, & watch her
produce a relevant song from an extensive repertoire.
Moderating is a solid choice. You could also volunteer to interview a
guest at the con--wonder who? <weg>
Find out who's available to help you; it's not like you'd have to
carry a whole panel by yourself. If you can find 2-3 other filkers in
the area, have a panel on what filk is, what it means to you, & how
it's changed your life. Talk about opening up new horizons for
yourself & your kid [intellectual, emotional, social, musical,
artistic, literary, physical, insert favorite adjective here], new
friends online [shameless plug for rmf, etc.] Hey, a testimony
meeting by any other name is still sincere. Show how filk is for
everyone. I like filk because: a, b, x, & q; whereas panelist @ likes
it because: c, d, z, & r.
Well, that's enough to be going on with.
Good luck!
Jerrie
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:01:19 GMT, Shadow...@mystarship.com
(Shadowe_Lover) wrote:
Steve Dixon
and try to set up a couple music panels. You will have new friends there
to ensure you are properly initiated into the wonderful world of con
panels. All else failing there is always the tried and true "I have no
idea why they put me on this panel". I am always amazed at how often I
hear this line.
nyma...@netway.com
: What should I expect to have happen as a Panelist?
Wow! I know it's scary, but think of it as an opportunity. What do you
want to talk about? What have you figured out that you'd like to tell
people so they don't make the same mistake? What have you seen in the
world impacting filk and/or science fiction (and vice versa)? It's a great
opportunity.
Or, you could always propose a "what is filk?" panel, moderate it, and
spend an hour drinking water and bopping overly talkative heads while
everyone argues. >:)
Ny
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>Ok folks...I just got told, that despite all I am trying to do for
>VikingCon, in order for me to get a free membership, I have to be on a
>panel....Me who Knows Nothing about Cons, is Not an Actual Filker, or
>anyone really important....soooooo
>
>What should I expect to have happen as a Panelist?
>
http://www.locksley.com/neofans/ has info for you.
J. Bethancourt
"Do not ascribe your own motivations to others:
at best it will break your heart, at worst, get you dead."
No Spam -- No Excuses --- No Prisoners
http://www.9thcavalry.com/
Joe Kesselman
> Depends on the panel. Either pick one you know something about, or be a
> _moderator_ on one. (That way you just keep order, and don't have to know
> what you're talking about! <<grin>>
It helps if the moderator at least knows what they don't
know, and can ask good questions to help keep people
moving... and has a good sense of just how far off track to
let folks drift before reining them in. A good moderator can
save a bad panel.
Mary Creasey
Steve Dixon <steven....@boeing.com> wrote in message
news:3B4F39FF...@boeing.com...
> If they have no panels set up yet why don't you see if Leslie is willing
> and try to set up a couple music panels. You will have new friends there
> to ensure you are properly initiated into the wonderful world of con
> panels. All else failing there is always the tried and true "I have no
> idea why they put me on this panel". I am always amazed at how often I
> hear this line.
I've already suggested that she be a moderator for you and Leslie at a
"Filk 101" or "What Is Filk" panel. You two can demonstrate, and she
gets to get you guys to take fair turns.
Mary
Bruce Adelsohn
>
> fil...@mindspring.com (Joe Ellis) wrote in news:filker-
> 13070113...@user-37kapfh.dialup.mindspring.com:
>
> > Depends on the panel. Either pick one you know something about, or be a
> > _moderator_ on one. (That way you just keep order, and don't have to know
> > what you're talking about! <<grin>>
>
> Hmmm, this would be easy except for one thing...they have no real panels
> set up yet...the ConCom chair is asking me to come up with ideas....sigh...
>
> Ideaas Anyone?????
Look over the list of guests coming to the con, especially those with
whom you are likely to set up a panel, and think about something you'd
like to discuss with them. Preferably something you know at least a
little about, and hopefully something about which they are well known
for doing.
It helps to have a few (but not too many) notes prepared beforehand,
with maybe one or two topics and a few questions intended to get someone
talking.
Good luck!
Shadowe_Lover
Ok now I have a better idea of what to do, not to do and where to begin.
Now I just need to get together with Leslie and figure out what *She* wants
to do as far as Panels go.
A Very Special Thanks to Joe for *Reminding me* of his pages for neo=[hytes
which, believe it or not, I had read some time ago..but didn't remember
where I had read them...LOL <I have spent HOURS in your site Joe>
Blessings and Thanks To All,
SHadowe Lover
<not shaking quite so badly now....LOL>
Margaret Middleton
What Is This Thing Called Filk?
(and even better if you can come up with a whole verse paralleling the Cole
Porter tune beyond just the title line)
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Joe Kesselman
> A Very Special Thanks to Joe for *Reminding me* of his pages for neo=[hytes
Much of the thanks go to the folks who ask good questions so I know
what's needed... and provide good answers that I can steal. <grin/>
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> Another alternative title for an 'intro to filk' panel:
> What Is This Thing Called Filk?
Another approach to that panel: "Science fiction in verse
and music [*]", covering both filk and songs/poems written
by Real <gasp/> Authors. Might even get into the history of
SF film music, which has actually been an outlet for some
cutting-edge stuff (as well as some that belongs on the
cutting-room floor). And might get into the way SF has
penetrated other genres -- the "SF References in Music" list
is one good source for that.
Taking that step back _would_ increase the amount of
preparation time required, but it could yield a panel more
likely to interest a general FS audience.
[* There _must_ be a pun here on _Scanners_Live_In_Vain_,
but I'm not finding it.]
Shadowe_Lover
news:3B5480D9...@alum.mit.edu:
> Taking that step back _would_ increase the amount of
> preparation time required, but it could yield a panel more
> likely to interest a general FS audience.
Yes this would be a wonderful thing to explore....but as time is short and
brains are presently undergoing revisions...LOL I think I will try for
this for Next VikingCon...SIGH
Blessings,
Shadowe Lover
<who is running short on time, sleep and oh yeah...sanity! LOL>
marty l. adkins
on. Is there any chance of either of you going to this con next year?
Synthesizers could brought in for some way cool effects and
demonstrations.
Jerrie
Joe Ellis
adkins...@mindspring.com wrote:
>This sounds like something Joes Kesselman and Ellis could get together
>on. Is there any chance of either of you going to this con next year?
>Synthesizers could brought in for some way cool effects and
>demonstrations.
>
>Jerrie
>
Well, I don't know about JK, but I'm in Orlando, FL. That's a LONG way to
travel with a synth, since there is no _way_ I would trust it to the
tender mercies of airline baggage handlers.
When I did ConChord, they were able to find an identical synth at a rental
outfit. Since it's over 10 years old now, it's unlikely anyone would be
able to pull that off again. <<sigh>>
Anyway, that kind of panel isn't really of general interest to most SF
fen, or even most filkers.
Frankly, I don't _do_ sound effects. I use mostly accoustical sounds on my
synth, and that's what I was looking for when I got it. That, and an
internal sequencer so I didn't have to haul a computer around with me too.
(10 years ago, folks... before decent and inexpensive laptops! Scary,
ain't it! <<grin>>)
Now, if it's arranging you want (how different instruments fit together,
how they play idiomatically, chord voicing, melodic lines, etc.) that's
more up my alley... but still not of a great deal of interest to most
filkers. You don't need arranging skills if you're just doing voice and
guitar. (until you get good enough to do a modulation to a different key
in the middle of a song, without a capo...)
Mike Whitaker
> When I did ConChord, they were able to find an identical synth at a rental
> outfit. Since it's over 10 years old now, it's unlikely anyone would be
> able to pull that off again. <<sigh>>
You'd be amazed. The request for 'a Korg of some sort' for GAFilk 2000 got
us an M1, which must be nearly that old!
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Joe Kesselman
> Is there any chance of either of you going to this con next year?
The chances are somewhere between "fat" and "slim", I'm
afraid... I really don't get to cons outside my area. (And I
don't tend to think of myself as panelist material... I may
have an overcompensated writer's block, but I tend to be a
quiet type in person.)
In any case, if the panel sketch interests anyone, feel free
to adopt and/or adapt -- that's why I tossed out the idea.
(Another possible slant on the topic: "SF in Music and Music
in SF". That could be broad enough to cover musicians as
characters in books even when the actual music/lyrics don't
appear... broad enough, in fact, that it could go just about
anywhere the panelists wanted to take it and still be on
topic. Which is sometimes a good thing, if you've got a
group of panelists who are just plain having fun batting the
ideas around...)
Joe Kesselman
> Now, if it's arranging you want (how different instruments fit together,
> how they play idiomatically, chord voicing, melodic lines, etc.) that's
> more up my alley... but still not of a great deal of interest to most
> filkers.
I dunno. Most filkers aren't making recordings either, but a talk by
Heather Alexander on how one goes about that process was fairly well
attended, despite being early morning at a filk con.
Note that I was proposing my ideas as a possible topic for a general
convention, intended to draw in some folks who wouldn't be interested in
a filk-specific panel. If we lost the interest of some of the filkers in
the process, that might be a fair trade... especially if we were able to
do a bit of subtle filk proselytizing in the process. (Banging people
over the head with it doesn't work. Saying "Oh, yeah, that one was set
to music by... and it goes like this... and if you want to hear more of
her work, drop by the filkroom later and ask" might.)
Steve Wheeler
"Joe Kesselman" <kes...@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:3B54B08B...@alum.mit.edu...
>
> (Another possible slant on the topic: "SF in Music and Music
> in SF". That could be broad enough to cover musicians as
> characters in books even when the actual music/lyrics don't
> appear... broad enough, in fact, that it could go just about
> anywhere the panelists wanted to take it and still be on
> topic. Which is sometimes a good thing, if you've got a
> group of panelists who are just plain having fun batting the
> ideas around...)
For example, "Music as Weaponry," referencing the Mule, Disaster Zone, a
short story by (I believe) Asimov about the man who discovered the
ultimate catchy tune, and no doubt others.
ObParaphrase: "I don't need a weapon, I have a banjo."
- wheels
Martin DeMello
> For example, "Music as Weaponry," referencing the Mule, Disaster Zone, a
Area
> short story by (I believe) Asimov about the man who discovered the
> ultimate catchy tune, and no doubt others.
Clarke, 'The Ultimate Melody', though it wasn't so much a weapon there as an
experiment that backfired.
--
Martin DeMello
Joe Kesselman
> There was a presentation this past weekend at Readercon, of all places,
> on science fiction in music, by a Mr. Garland
> ...
> The breadth of material made it considerably more
> interesting than the typical "what is filk" panel. Of course, doing
> that requires a lot of preparation.
Sounds like very much what I was thinking of.
I wonder if we could persuade him to share his lab nodes so
we could replicate the experiment...
Gunther W Anderson
nowadays best known for being gratuitously referenced in Babylon 5) that
the main character avoided detection from the psychic police by seeding
his brain with an annoyingly catchy sit com theme (Tenser Said the
Tensor, I think) when he was going to murder his father. All the
psychics could hear was the tune.
Gunther
bi...@bsutton.com
:>Tenser Said the
:>Tensor, I think
Tenser said the Tensor. Tenser said the Tensor. Tension, apprehension, and
dissension have begun
If I remember correctly
I also seem to remember it was an advertising jingle.
Bill
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Maureen O'Brien
show about a mathematician. (Only available in the world of The
Demolished Man, alas.)
However, I have an incredibly boring and catchy tune for the _entire_
song, including the intro. I have sung it in the past. It does work
as advertised.
Be afraid.
Maureen
Mark A. Mandel
: Tenser said the Tensor. Tenser said the Tensor. Tension, apprehension, and
: dissension have begun
: If I remember correctly
: I also seem to remember it was an advertising jingle.
Correct (i.e., same as my memory ;-)\ ) on both counts, but you left off
the first half:
Eight, sir, seven, sir, six, sir, five, sir,
Four, sir, three, two, sir, one.
Tenser, said the tensor.
Tenser, said the tensor.
Tension, apprehension,
and dissension have begun. [RIFF]
and repeat.
and repeat.
and re-
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John Thomas
Left
Left
Left a wife and seventeen children
Starving at home with nothing but gingerbread left
Left....
JT
Lee Gold
"Nothing but Gingerbread Left" by Henry Kuttner, to
be found in a number of anthologies, originally
published in Astounding Science Fiction, January, 1943.
--Lee Gold
David G. Bell
lee...@mediaone.net "Lee Gold" wrote:
And the jingle goes back to at least WW1 in the British Army, with a lot
of variants on the general theme.
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wrote:
InstaFilk alert!
Music: "Lost," James Keelaghan
Left
With my wife and with seventeen kids, oh
Left
With no food but these gingerbread bits, oh
Dan, ad nauseam
Joe Ellis
db...@zhochaka.org.uk wrote:
>On Saturday, in article <3B58DBC8...@mediaone.net>
> lee...@mediaone.net "Lee Gold" wrote:
>
>> John Thomas wrote:
>> >
>> > What was the story with the jingle:
>> >
>> > Left
>> > Left
>> > Left a wife and seventeen children
>> > Starving at home with nothing but gingerbread left
>> > Left....
>>
>> "Nothing but Gingerbread Left" by Henry Kuttner, to
>> be found in a number of anthologies, originally
>> published in Astounding Science Fiction, January, 1943.
>
>And the jingle goes back to at least WW1 in the British Army, with a lot
>of variants on the general theme.
>
On this side of the pond, I believe that would be classed as a "Judy
Call", a sing-song rhythmic chant to help the troops keep in cadence while
marching without music or drums.
Left
Left
Left a wife and
Seventeen children
Starving at home with
Nothing but gingerbread
Left
Left
Yer Left, Right,
Left...
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Ace Lightning
>>And the jingle goes back to at least WW1 in the British Army, with a lot
>>of variants on the general theme.
>On this side of the pond, I believe that would be classed as a "Judy
>Call", a sing-song rhythmic chant to help the troops keep in cadence while
>marching without music or drums.
> Left
> Left
> Left a wife and
> Seventeen children
> Starving at home with
> Nothing but gingerbread
> Left
> Left
> Yer Left, Right,
> Left...
You had a good job but you LEFT
(You're right!)
You had a good job but you LEFT
(You're right!)
Jody(1) was there when you LEFT
(You're right!)
Sound off!
(One! Two!)
And again!
(Three! Four!)
Bring it on down!
One, two, three, four,
One, two -
(ThreeFour!)
1. a "Jody" is someone who isn't "man" enough to enlist in the
military (the Marines, originally, I believe), but who stays
behind and romances the lonely wives of the guys who are off
fighting, or at least learning to fight.
Steve Wheeler
"Ace Lightning" <acelig...@monmouth.com> wrote in message
news:3B59EEF3...@monmouth.com...
>
> You had a good job but you LEFT
> (You're right!)
> You had a good job but you LEFT
> (You're right!)
> Jody(1) was there when you LEFT
> (You're right!)
> Sound off!
> (One! Two!)
> And again!
> (Three! Four!)
> Bring it on down!
> One, two, three, four,
> One, two -
> (ThreeFour!)
>
> 1. a "Jody" is someone who isn't "man" enough to enlist in the
> military (the Marines, originally, I believe), but who stays
> behind and romances the lonely wives of the guys who are off
> fighting, or at least learning to fight.
We used to use this one on occasion:
Your mother was there when you LEFT
(You're right!)
Your father ...
Your sister ...
Your brother ...
Your girlfriend ...
The baby ...
And that's the reason you LEFT
(You're right!)
Sound off, etc.
Alternate line for "The baby ..." is "The police ..."
- wheels
Ace Lightning
That would have to be pronounced "PO-leece" in order
to scan.
Then, of course, there's the related cadence call that
has more verses than "Old Time Religion"...
I don't know, but I've been told,
(I don't know, but I've been told)
Local girls are awful cold.
(Local girls are awful cold)
Sound off, etc.
I don't know, but it's been said,
Captain's mom is great in bed...
See that girl all dressed in blue,
There ain't nothing she won't do...
(et extremely cetera).
Rob Wynne
>Then, of course, there's the related cadence call that
>has more verses than "Old Time Religion"...
>I don't know, but I've been told,
> (I don't know, but I've been told)
>Local girls are awful cold.
> (Local girls are awful cold)
>Sound off, etc.
>I don't know, but it's been said,
>Captain's mom is great in bed...
>See that girl all dressed in blue,
>There ain't nothing she won't do...
>(et extremely cetera).
My favourite cadance call was when they did "Doo Wah Diddy" in STRIPES.
:)
Rob
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>
> My favourite cadance call was when they did "Doo Wah Diddy" in STRIPES.
There's a computer keyword cadence call in Xeno #78
(mailed out earlier this week). I'll post the ToC when
I come up for air from pubbing A&E #312 -- and the
Argo songbook.
--Lee
Ace Lightning
>>Then, of course, there's the related cadence call that
>>has more verses than "Old Time Religion"...
>:)
You'd be very surprised what can be made to work as a
tune to march to. Off the top of my head, I remember
hearing "Iko Iko", "Lili Marlene", "I'll Never Find
Another You", "Michael, Row The Boat Ashore", "Light
My Fire", and "Aupres De Ma Blonde", just to name a few.
It all depends on how musically inclined the troops
happen to be... and how bored.
Ace Lightning
There's also the "Zen Marines Marching Mantra":
Nam myoho renge kyo!
(Nam myoho renge kyo!)
O-om mani padme hum!
(O-om mani padme hum!)
Nam myoho renge kyo!
(Nam myoho renge kyo!)
O-om mani padme hum!
(O-om mani padme hum!)
Sound off!
(Ha-re!)
And again!
(Kreesh-na!)
Bring it on down!
Hare Krishna, Ha-re -
(KREESH-NAH!)
David G. Bell
acelig...@monmouth.com "Ace Lightning" wrote:
'Lili Marlene' shouldn't be a surprise, and not just because the
original is German. There's a definite march-feel to the recording that
popularised it.
Joe Ellis
<acelig...@monmouth.com> wrote:
>Rob Wynne wrote:
>>>Then, of course, there's the related cadence call that
>>>has more verses than "Old Time Religion"...
>>My favourite cadance call was when they did "Doo Wah Diddy" in STRIPES.
>>:)
>
>You'd be very surprised what can be made to work as a
>tune to march to.
After 15 years with junior high, high school, and college marching bands
as both a member and a director, I don't think so... <<grin>>
Off the top of my head, I remember
>hearing "Iko Iko", "Lili Marlene", "I'll Never Find
>Another You", "Michael, Row The Boat Ashore", "Light
>My Fire", and "Aupres De Ma Blonde", just to name a few.
>It all depends on how musically inclined the troops
>happen to be... and how bored.
My favorite Military use?
I was watching the TV news at the beginning of the Falkland/Malvinas
set-to. One of the British units (the Ghurkas?) was shown in the process
of boarding the ship (I believe it was the QEII) that was to take them to
the islands. The usual full-dress military band was in attendance.
In what had to be one of the finest shows of military chutzpah I have ever
heard of, they were marching down the wharf to the tune of "Don't Cry For
Me, Argentina"!
Of course, the whole event was staged for the cameras as a bit of psyops
aimed right at the Argentines... particularly the part where the Ghurkas
were waving those famous knives in the air for the camera. I don't know if
it's still done, but it used to be tradition that, once drawn, the knife
was not to be sheathed until it had drawn blood. Certainly something that
gives the opposition furiously to think...
It can work against you, too... I recall a case a few years back of a
visiting Japanese ambassador to Canada. As he deplaned, the bandmaster of
the base struck up a stirring march...
... the title march from "Bridge Over The River Kwai".
..."oops"...
The ambassador either ignored it or didn't recognise the insult. The CO
went pale, and the protocol people went into apoplexy! The bandmaster was
looking for a new career the next day.
Daniel R. Reitman
wrote:
>. . . .
>I was watching the TV news at the beginning of the Falkland/Malvinas
>set-to. One of the British units (the Ghurkas?) was shown in the process
>of boarding the ship (I believe it was the QEII) that was to take them to
>the islands. The usual full-dress military band was in attendance.
>In what had to be one of the finest shows of military chutzpah I have ever
>heard of, they were marching down the wharf to the tune of "Don't Cry For
>Me, Argentina"!
>. . . .
>It can work against you, too... I recall a case a few years back of a
>visiting Japanese ambassador to Canada. As he deplaned, the bandmaster of
>the base struck up a stirring march...
>... the title march from "Bridge Over The River Kwai".
>. . . .
Then there was the interview before the royal wedding (yes, _that_
royal wedding, not Gregor and Laisa), during which the military band
could be heard practicing through an open window.
The Liberty Bell March.
Dan, ad nauseam
Mark A. Mandel
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: It can work against you, too... I recall a case a few years back of a
: visiting Japanese ambassador to Canada. As he deplaned, the bandmaster of
: the base struck up a stirring march...
: ... the title march from "Bridge Over The River Kwai".
: ..."oops"...
: The ambassador either ignored it or didn't recognise the insult. The CO
: went pale, and the protocol people went into apoplexy! The bandmaster was
: looking for a new career the next day.
Yikes!
That march long predates the movie and is properly known as "The Colonel
Bogie(sp?) March". But the bandmaster blasted well should have been aware
of its movie association.
-- Mark M.
David G. Bell
<filker-2207...@user-37kaouo.dialup.mindspring.com>
fil...@mindspring.com "Joe Ellis" wrote:
The bit about the knives is a myth. They're a working knife, of
traditional design.
> It can work against you, too... I recall a case a few years back of a
> visiting Japanese ambassador to Canada. As he deplaned, the bandmaster of
> the base struck up a stirring march...
>
> ... the title march from "Bridge Over The River Kwai".
>
> ..."oops"...
>
> The ambassador either ignored it or didn't recognise the insult. The CO
> went pale, and the protocol people went into apoplexy! The bandmaster was
> looking for a new career the next day.
Was that "Colonel Bogey", which is the tune the prisoners are whistling
as they march into the camp, and a much older tune that WW2, or the
actual film theme?
Ace Lightning
>'Lili Marlene' shouldn't be a surprise, and not just because the
>original is German. There's a definite march-feel to the recording that
>popularised it.
I'm sure that a lot of more contemporary rock songs (as well
as many "folk" and/or filksongs) could become marching songs,
with a bit of forcing. The first example that floats to the
top of my brain is Kiss, "God Gave Rock'n'Roll To You", or at
least the chorus thereof. Hey, if Weird Al can turn anything
in 4/4 time into a polka...
Ace Lightning
>>You'd be very surprised what can be made to work as a
>>tune to march to.
>After 15 years with junior high, high school, and college marching bands
>as both a member and a director, I don't think so... <<grin>>
Don't tell me - they tried to marchify "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" ;-)
>>Off the top of my head, I remember
>>hearing "Iko Iko", "Lili Marlene", "I'll Never Find
>>Another You", "Michael, Row The Boat Ashore", "Light
>>My Fire", and "Aupres De Ma Blonde", just to name a few.
>>It all depends on how musically inclined the troops
>>happen to be... and how bored.
>My favorite Military use?
>I was watching the TV news at the beginning of the Falkland/Malvinas
>set-to. One of the British units (the Ghurkas?) was shown in the process
>of boarding the ship (I believe it was the QEII) that was to take them to
>the islands. The usual full-dress military band was in attendance.
>In what had to be one of the finest shows of military chutzpah I have ever
>heard of, they were marching down the wharf to the tune of "Don't Cry For
>Me, Argentina"!
Oh, that *was* a nicely vicious touch!
>It can work against you, too... I recall a case a few years back of a
>visiting Japanese ambassador to Canada. As he deplaned, the bandmaster of
>the base struck up a stirring march...
> ... the title march from "Bridge Over The River Kwai".
> ..."oops"...
>The ambassador either ignored it or didn't recognise the insult. The CO
>went pale, and the protocol people went into apoplexy! The bandmaster was
>looking for a new career the next day.
How old wss the bandmaster, anyway? He might never have seen
the movie, after all...
Rob Wynne
>Then there was the interview before the royal wedding (yes, _that_
>royal wedding, not Gregor and Laisa), during which the military band
>could be heard practicing through an open window.
>
>The Liberty Bell March.
Of course, that's still traditionally done at political conventions in
the US. I first recalled noting it during the 1988 Republican
convention (the first year I watched all 4 days of continuous coverage
of both conventions).
David G. Bell
A Royal Navy battlecruiser returned to harbour from a long patrol, and
received a signal from the flagship ordering her to refuel and go out on
patrol again, in place of the flagship. As was the normal practise of
the time, the Royal Marine band on board the battlecruiser was drawn up
on the quarterdeck, playing appropriate music, as the ship passed the
flagship on the way out of harbour.
On this occasion the music had a set of well-known, though unofficial,
rude words.
The following signals were exchanged:
Flagship to battlecruiser: ON LEAVING HARBOUR WHO SELECTS THE BAND TUNES
Reply: NORMALLY THE BANDMASTER BUT ON SPECIAL OCCASIONS THE CAPTAIN
Steve Wheeler
> Steve Wheeler wrote:
> >We used to use this one on occasion:
> > Your mother was there when you LEFT
> > (You're right!)
> > Your father ...
> > Your sister ...
> > Your brother ...
> > Your girlfriend ...
> > The baby ...
> > And that's the reason you LEFT
> > (You're right!)
> > Sound off, etc.
> > Alternate line for "The baby ..." is "The police ..."
>
> That would have to be pronounced "PO-leece" in order
> to scan.
Not the way we did it. It was more like:
The p'LEESE were there ...
- wheels
Ace Lightning
>>That would have to be pronounced "PO-leece" in order
>>to scan.
>Not the way we did it. It was more like:
>The p'LEESE were there ...
*nod*
I think I've heard too many deep-South-raised
drill sergeants...
Dr Pepper
Shadowe_Lover failed to walk The Pattern on Fri 13 Jul 2001 10:01, and died
horribly, after shrieking "ARRRGH! What To Expect as a Panelist" to All.
SL> fil...@mindspring.com (Joe Ellis) wrote in news:filker-
SL> 13070113...@user-37kapfh.dialup.mindspring.com:
>> Depends on the panel. Either pick one you know something about, or be a
>> _moderator_ on one. (That way you just keep order, and don't have to know
>> what you're talking about! <<grin>>
SL> Hmmm, this would be easy except for one thing...they have no real
SL> panels set up yet...the ConCom chair is asking me to come up with
SL> ideas....sigh...
SL> Ideaas Anyone?????
"I'm New to Filk, Where Do I Start?" would be the perfect panel for you.
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Copper Squirrel
>Daniel R. Reitman <drei...@spiritone.com> wrote:
>>Then there was the interview before the royal wedding (yes, _that_
>>royal wedding, not Gregor and Laisa), during which the military band
>>could be heard practicing through an open window.
>>
>>The Liberty Bell March.
>
>Of course, that's still traditionally done at political conventions in
>the US. I first recalled noting it during the 1988 Republican
>convention (the first year I watched all 4 days of continuous coverage
>of both conventions).
>
>Rob
And have you sought treatment for this masochistic behavior?
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Joe Kesselman
> There's also the "Zen Marines Marching Mantra":
Were this a circle, I'd ask if someone could follow that
with Zen Gospel Singing (or whatever its proper name is)...
Margaret Middleton
>and "Aupres De Ma Blonde", just to name a few.
>> It all depends on how musically inclined the troops
>> happen to be... and how bored.
>
>'Lili Marlene' shouldn't be a surprise, and not just because the
>original is German. There's a definite march-feel to the recording that
>popularised it.
>
and I think 'Aupres de ma Blonde' has just about always been an army song.
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Ace Lightning
>>>and "Aupres De Ma Blonde", just to name a few.
>>original is German. There's a definite march-feel to the recording that
>>popularised it.
>and I think 'Aupres de ma Blonde' has just about always been an army song.
My French is a bit limited, but it seems to me that the
lyrics of "Aupres de ma Blonde" are more along the lines
of a simple folk song that just happened to get adapted,
and/or adopted, for army use.