Where would we be....
Lori Coulson
Where was I when the Eagle landed? Smack dab in front of the TV set in
our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. But then, I'd watched every mission from
the time my Dad was stationed at Langley AFB--and the original seven
astronauts did part of their training there...
(Mommy, they *can't* be astronauts! Honey, of course they are, why do you
say that? They're not wearing space suits... Me, at a parade in honor of
the original seven at LAFB)
Lori Coulson
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>
>Where was I when the Eagle landed? Smack dab in front of the TV set in
>our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. But then, I'd watched every mission from
>the time my Dad was stationed at Langley AFB--and the original seven
>astronauts did part of their training there...
I used to watch every mission -- the last one I watched "live" was
Challenger. Somehow it just wasn't the same thereafter, and I still
can't listen to Leslie's "Nightmare Ride" without tears.
David Arcana
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radio in the manager's office turned way up and and when the landing
occured, we all dropped what we were doing (except the carhops set down
their orders first) and crowded into the office to listen.
-Eric Root
"If there's anybody here who isn't trying to pick a fight, that's whose
side I'm on."
BTBanzai
>our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. But then, I'd watched every mission from
>the time my Dad was stationed at Langley AFB--and the original seven
>astronauts did part of their training there...
>
>say that? They're not wearing space suits... Me, at a parade in honor of
>the original seven at LAFB)
>
>Lori Coulson
Lucky you. I was only 9 months old. My father insisted my mother feed me in
front of the TV so he could tell everyone his daughter watched the landing.
Bonnie B. o/'
Now that was short and pointless, wasn't it?
BJ van Look
> Where was I when the Eagle landed? Smack dab in front of the TV set in
> our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. But then, I'd watched every mission from
> the time my Dad was stationed at Langley AFB--and the original seven
> astronauts did part of their training there...
Lucky you. I wasn't even conceived yet.
BJ, who *does* remember where she was when Challenger happened.....
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three hours on death's doorstep, and she'd emerged
still on her feet and snarling."
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BJ van Look
Speaking only for myself and my evil twin Skippy.
Greg Baker
the landing on her black and white TV. Of course, she had CBS on. I
remember the hamburgers we ate as they landed.
When Armstrong stepped out on the moon, I was watching at my home in
Clinton, Maryland. We had the flag displayed from the garage. I ran
outside in the middle of the moon walk and looked up at that full moon
against the sky. Could it be? Could we have done it? I was so proud.
When the Challenger blew up, I was in the same house in Clinton. My wife
and I were staying temporarily with my mother, and we were taping the entire
launch, including delays, on TV-56, which was carrying the NASA feed.
Just before the rocket went up, my wife said, "This will be week of the
greatest triumph and the greatest tragedy in NASA's history." And I said,
"Don't be silly."
I've learned the hard way to accept that my wife has the gift of prophecy.
And as for what I wrote that night - see the first issue of "Air and Space"
for the text.
We were so moved I scribbled the poem, and we drove to the museum that
night. It was bitter cold - the same cold that doomed Challenger. With
still, frozen fingers, we managed to light the votive candle and affix the
poem to the glass of the Museum. The light was visible throughout the
entire Mall as we drove away.
Greg Baker
Jette Goldie
BJ van Look wrote
>I wasn't even conceived yet.
>
>BJ, who *does* remember where she was when Challenger happened.....
>
>--
Umm, since I will shortly be celebrating the 20th anniversary of
my 21st birthday, I am old enough to remember both.
Daddy was a bit of a space buff so we (my baby bro and I)
were allowed up very late at night to watch the landing
and moonwalk on TV. We were one of the few families
in our street to have a tv, so I was one of the few kids at
my school to see it.
Challenger I was doing the ironing and listening to radio.
Got such a shock that I dropped the iron as I rushed through
to the tv to turn it on. Had a huge hole in the floor vinyl for
years and when someone asked what happened, would
say "oh, that was Challenger".
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BJ van Look <ve...@internetcds.com> wrote in message
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> BJ, who *does* remember where she was when Challenger happened.....
>
I don't remember the Apollo landings (I was 3 or so), but I remember the
Challenger explosion vividly. I was a cadet at the Air Force Academy and
had just come out of a class in orbital mechanics. Someone told me as I
passed them in the hall that Challenger had exploded and I thought they were
playing a rather sick joke. I shrugged it off and went to the C-Store (our
very own little mini-mart in the dorms, a necessity, when, like me, you tend
to be restricted to barracks a lot...) and saw the replay on a TV in there.
I just stood and stared. I simply could not believe it was happening. I
kept watching the replay looking for signs it was faked. Not one of my
favorite moments, but one that has stayed with me.
The mission commander's son was also a cadet at the time and so within 24
hours we were swarmed with nosy reporters shoving mikes in the face of any
cadet they could find.
Rob Fabian
Joe Ellis
(Lori Coulson) wrote:
> Where was I when the Eagle landed? Smack dab in front of the TV set in
> our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio.
Ditto for me, but in my grandmother's house on East Beech Street in
LaFollette, TN. On the way down from Dayton, OH, we stopped at some Gulf
stations for gas and picked up their die-cut Lunar Module paper models to
put together when we got there... I _think_ I still have a couple of
those, unpunched. <<smile>> Even at the age of 12 (Was I EVER that young?)
I knew that this was One of Those Events That Changes the World.
So why hasn't it, dammit?
And the Challenger?
I was teaching... I had ONE year too little experience to apply for the
Teacher In Space program myself. I was watching the TV between band
classes, and turned on the TV just in time to catch the launch... and the
disaster that followed. The young man in the percussion class with me at
the time was David Grissom. Yes, _Grissom_. Gus had been his great-uncle.
I immediately went to the office and informed them as to what had
happened, then went outside into the cold sunlit morning and lowered the
flag to half-staff with tears running down my face. I spent the rest of
the day travelling from room to room, watching it over and over with the
kids in the classes, trying to explain to them what had happened, why it
happened, and why it wasn't survivable. (At this point, some of the pieces
were still falling from the sky.)
I got several calls from other teachers who knew how involved I had been,
and passed on their condolences, and a request for an interview from a
local newspaper. I wrote the words for "Challenge of Space" in the next
weeks, but it was 6 months later before I could even think about setting
them to music. It's still a raw nerve... probably always will be. But it
helped, I think, to visit the Space Mirror Astronaut Memorial at Kennedy
Space Center. It's a fitting tribute for those who have given their all...
but the size of it is a bit sobering when you realize how much room there
is on it... for more names.
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>On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:59:07 -0600, "Rob Fabian" <rfa...@rmi.net>
>wrote:
I remember the Apollo landing, my Dad held me on his lap (I was born
in '62) and told me to remember this for the rest of my life, this was
history.
I remember a lot of whooping and hollering around our neighborhood
too.
>>I don't remember the Apollo landings (I was 3 or so), but I
>>remember the Challenger explosion vividly. I was a
>>cadet at the Air Force Academy and had just come
>>out of a class in orbital mechanics. Someone told me
>>as I passed them in the hall that Challenger had
>>exploded and I thought they were playing a
>>rather sick joke.
>
>I remember Challenger too. I was at work, and somebody said "the
>shuttle exploded." I cussed him out for being a sick bastard - then
>heard on the radio that it was true. It was like being kicked in the
>stomach. My parents weren't really interested in the space program and
>I was very young for most of the earlier landings (born in 1966) but
>I'll always remember Challenger.
I was home, Steve and I had just bought our first house. He'd gone to
work a little earlier, and I doing laundry. I wanted to watch tv
while my clothes washed. I put down my load and flipped on the tv,
looking for something interesting. I found the live feed, and they
were still in the final countdown. I'd just picked up the load again
when Challenger lifted. I still remember Cap Com droning out the
seconds and the downfield range. I stood there, watching the launch,
and then the unthinkable happened, the Challenger went off in two
distinct directions. Cap Com announced "There has been a catastrophic
failure at T plus one minute six seconds." in the same tone in which
he'd been announcing the time. It was extremely chilling.
My knees gave way. I sat down in the middle of the living room floor,
just stunned. Then I called my best friend, she thought I was joking,
until I made her turn on her tv.
Later, I called my Dad at work (he was a failure analyst at the time)
and asked him if he was going to be sent into that mess. His reply
was "I hope not, it's not gonna be an investigation, it's gonna be a
political circus." Sadly, he was right, and, mercifully for him, he
did not have to be involved.
Take care,
Karen Rodgers
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Rich Brown
watching ol' Walter Cronkite getting all choked up.
> I remember Challenger too. I was at work, and somebody said "the
> shuttle exploded." I cussed him out for being a sick bastard - then
> heard on the radio that it was true. It was like being kicked in the
Me too. We were doing a TV segment about crying. When we were done
taping the principal researcher we were working with came into the room
and said the Challenger had exploded. I thought it was an extremely
shoddy way to try to collect a few more tears. Lucky for me I was
playing at beeing sound guy that day, so my #1 job duty was to keep my
own yap shut. I didn't believe the story until we got back to our
building where the video was everywhere, over and over...
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On 11-Jul-99, you wrote:
> Lori Coulson wrote:
>> Where was I when the Eagle landed? Smack dab in front of the TV set in
>> our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. But then, I'd watched every mission from
>> the time my Dad was stationed at Langley AFB--and the original seven
>> astronauts did part of their training there...
I was a boy of 12, and we were living in Lakeside California. We had a pool party
and BBQ that day with the neighbor's kids. (Cooked foot long hot dogs).
Later we all sat and watched the moon walk. I was the only one who
stayed to the end!!
Watched the splash down till we had a power outage just after the
astronauts went into isolation. When power came back on the coverage was
over.
On the 22ed. anniversary of that moon walk, I married my current Wife,
Thanks to Lee Gold's Song about the first soft martain landing on the 20th.
of July!!!!!
> BJ, who *does* remember where she was when Challenger happened.....
I was at work that day, called home had my wife (at that time), put a tape
in the VCR and let it run before she headed off to work. A bummer day,
Barney
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Mary Creasey
David Arcana <see.address...@nospam.org> wrote in article
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> On 11 Jul 1999 09:15:15 -0400, lcou...@gcfn.org (Lori Coulson) wrote:
>
> >
> >Where was I when the Eagle landed? Smack dab in front of the TV set in
> >our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. But then, I'd watched every mission
from
> >the time my Dad was stationed at Langley AFB--and the original seven
> >astronauts did part of their training there...
I DON'T remember seeing Eagle land the first time--although I'm
old enough (47) and my folks did believe in space...
> I used to watch every mission -- the last one I watched "live" was
> Challenger.
I saw that, too--I was at home on the couch, about half asleep,
with then-1-1/2-year-old Richard asleep on my tummy, and the
TV on...which is why it didn't have the impact on me it had on
everyone else; it seemed a dream sequence. John, OTOH,
worked (at the time) for a company which was a Shuttle
subcontractor, and the entire company got the gut-kick.
>Somehow it just wasn't the same thereafter, and I still
> can't listen to Leslie's "Nightmare Ride" without tears.
Minor nitpick: it's "Nightmare Launch", and it's a Lackey/Fish.
(Leslie, of course, sang it at the Bayfilk 3 Challenger Memorial.)
Mary
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David Arcana
wrote:
>>Somehow it just wasn't the same thereafter, and I still
>> can't listen to Leslie's "Nightmare Ride" without tears.
>
>Minor nitpick: it's "Nightmare Launch", and it's a Lackey/Fish.
>(Leslie, of course, sang it at the Bayfilk 3 Challenger Memorial.)
<blush> I've only heard it at a friend's house -- "Leslie Fish Live,"
one of her favorite albums. (She's kind enough to not play it when I'm
around anymore.)
Mark A Mandel
Probably napping, or reading. At the time. Although... never mind) when
she called me out into the living room, because of the timing change. And
I was among the
Twelve thousand, half million, million, and more
Watching TV on the living room floor
(Witnesses' Waltz Too, by MASSFILC's own Ellen Kranzer, in the Concertino
'95 program/song book).
-- Mark
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Age of NASA passed me by (still bitter about that...).
Joe Ellis wrote:
> And the Challenger?
>
> I was teaching... I had ONE year too little experience to apply for the
> Teacher In Space program myself.
I was in 6th grade. My science teacher was one of the finalists. He was a
wreck for the next week or so. Even in the midst of all the tragedy and human
drama, I had the thought that left probably the foulest tase in my mouth ever:
"This is going to effectively kill the space program". I wasn't far off...
> I spent the rest of
> the day travelling from room to room, watching it over and over with the
> kids in the classes, trying to explain to them what had happened, why it
> happened, and why it wasn't survivable.
It was. Three (or was it four?) of the seven died on impact from broken necks.
The other four (or was it three?) were out of their restraints, clustered
around the warped-shut escape hatch, dead from drowning. We'll never know for
sure, but if they'd actually scrambled the rescue teams at the time, those
astronauts might have made it. But everyone else said the same thing --
"There's no way they could have survived that" -- forgetting that the people
who designed the damned thing allowed for even that eventuality when creating
the command section. Still, the whole thing would have probably been avoided,
if not for J. Danforth Quayle... But that's a rant for a time when I can hit
something.
--Jonah
P.S. Speaking of filk, where's Marty Burke these days?
Michael Liebmann
the TV set watching as man set down on the moon. When Armstrong came out of
the capsule to walk on the moon, I was in my room, with my 15" b/w tv set
on, watching. My parents told me at 3AM to go to sleep, and I sorta
remember saying that we're still walking on the moon.
For Challenger, I'd set my VCR to record the launch. I was working at the
time as a word processor for an insurance company. One of my co-workers,
Kevin Gabriel, called me after it happened and told me, to which my reaction
was "You're kidding." I was in a not-good mood for the rest of the day, and
yet no one understood when I said "seven friends died today." I was able to
get over it somewhat by doing a memorial service for Challenger a year
later, at which time I officially formed a new CAP squadron, which I wanted
to call the Challenger 7 Cadet Squadron. Nichelle Nichols was the featured
guest.
Twelve days after the explosion, I went down to Chabad to talk to a rabbi
who I respected. One of his sons (he had 9 children at the time) didn't
even know that we'd landed on the moon or anything like that. I had to
explain to him, in a Chabad sort of way, that G-D would not create this vast
universe and just put humanity on one arm of an insignificant galaxy. There
HAD to be life out there. I don't know if I got through to him.
J. Bethancourt
>
>Where was I when the Eagle landed?
Working as a studio musician / bar picker in LA, and living in Culver
City, where we could watch them filming Hogan's Heroes in the lot
next door.
I and my roommates, Brooks Thomas (RIP) and Carole Baekey (where are
you?) ran outside and looked at the Moon, then ran back in and jumped
up and down and yelled.
A lot. The whole of LA seemed to be flashing it's car lights, and
honking horns ......
Challenger? I was doing an Artist-in-Residence at a Phoenix elementary
school. I had a break while everyone watched the takeoff, so I was
sitting around in the teacher's lounge watching it ......
..... watching it explode, and thinking "Well, now the
cowardly-and-afraid will have more to whine about to keep us out of
space."
And then helping the teachers put an entire school back together.
Joe Bethancourt
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Dave Weingart
>Challenger I was doing the ironing and listening to radio.
Challenger, I was at work, watching the launch on a little pocket TV with
about a 2 inch diagonal B&W screen...
Damn, that hurt
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: I was in my girlfriend's parents' apartment. I was in her bedroom (No, no.
: Probably napping, or reading. At the time. Although... never mind) when
: she called me out into the living room, because of the timing change. And
: I was among the
: Twelve thousand, half million, million, and more
: Watching TV on the living room floor
: (Witnesses' Waltz Too, by MASSFILC's own Ellen Kranzer, in the Concertino
: '95 program/song book).
I was at work. The other space/aviation nut in the office had his radio
on, and we were listening to the launch...I couldn't believe what I was
hearing. I called my Mom long-distance and said, "Turn the TV on,
something's happened to Challenger...." I don't remember the rest of that day.
I still haven't had the guts to listen to the Challenger Memorial
Filktape...there it sits, pristine as the day it was made...
Mark Horning
>
>BJ van Look <ve...@internetcds.com> wrote in message
>news:3788C9...@internetcds.com...
>>
>
>Challenger explosion vividly. I was a cadet at the Air Force Academy and
>had just come out of a class in orbital mechanics. Someone told me as I
>passed them in the hall that Challenger had exploded and I thought they were
I had a simmilar reaction. I was in 8th grade. Someone told me that the
chalanger had exploded and I thought it was a rather poor joke. This was
in PE. Next class was science and when we got there the teacher was
crying, that was when I realised it was real.
Mark E. Horning "You can not enslave a free man. The most
Physicist you can do is kill him."
Phoenix AZ --Robert A. Heinlein-- (Free Men)
Eric Root
our senior Military Language Instructor ran into the room to tell us the
Challenger had exploded. We un-assed our seats and followed him back to
his office where we crowded in to watch the sickening tentacles of smoke
on his little TV...
the Carrot-Topped
For the Challenger, I was at home studying for Regents exams (standardized
exams for high school students created by the New York State Board of
Regents... similar to what they're doing now to Massachusetts students).
I'd forgotten about the launch, and my friend Ali called and said "Turn on
the TV! I can't believe what happened!" I was absolutely stunned. My
mother came back from the school where she taught at about the same time,
and we stood and stared at the screen together.
It was a Wednesday... I went to meet friends to go down to Prozdor (a
Hebrew high school program at the Jewish Theological Seminary) and wrote
one of the worst poems of my entire life about it on the subway.
--Rachel
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>I remember Challenger too. I was at work, and somebody said "the
>shuttle exploded." I cussed him out for being a sick bastard
I didn't believe it either. I watched it 'live' on TV (in Britain -
that's unusual because they don't bother to cover most launches live),
and just didn't believe it. It had to be fake, right? I watched every
single news rerun of it believing that /sometime/ they had to show the
real one, until I got it through my head that it really wasn't a bad
trick.
Snce I wqasn't involved with fandom or filk at the time, it was many
years later that I heard the "Challenger Memorial" tape. That is /not/
a safe tape to listen to while driving...
(Oh, yes, I do remember the first moon landing - on black and white TV
in my case. And I remember Apollo 13 very well, and waiting for them to
come out from radio blackout round the moon...)
Chris C
Mark A Mandel
: For the Challenger, I was at home studying for Regents exams (standardized
: exams for high school students created by the New York State Board of
: Regents... similar to what they're doing now to Massachusetts students).
: I'd forgotten about the launch, and my friend Ali called and said "Turn on
: the TV! I can't believe what happened!" I was absolutely stunned. My
: mother came back from the school where she taught at about the same time,
: and we stood and stared at the screen together.
That pattern of diverging smoke trails is burned forever into my mind.
: It was a Wednesday... I went to meet friends to go down to Prozdor (a
: Hebrew high school program at the Jewish Theological Seminary) and wrote
: one of the worst poems of my entire life about it on the subway.
As I did (poem) when JFK died.
Mary Creasey
> I still haven't had the guts to listen to the Challenger Memorial
> Filktape...there it sits, pristine as the day it was made...
>
> Lori Coulson
That tape has even more memories for those of us who were AT the
Memorial, at BayFilk 3...Imagine about 200 filkers, many with tape
decks and all with tissues, just barely 6 weeks after it happened.
There was a mixture of old and new songs, and old songs with new
verses ("Fire In The Sky"), by a stellar lineup of performers.
There was not a dry eye in the house.
Third-from-last song was Julia Ecklar's "Phoenix" as done
by Joey Shoji and Mary Ellen Wessels; that was when the
audience started joining in on the choruses. Catherine [Cook]
Mac donald raised the mood with "Witnesses' Waltz", and
then Leslie led us all in "Hope Eyrie". If it isn't the prettiest
recoding of that song there ever was, it was certainly the
strongest.
I was there...
Mary
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Michael Liebmann
>Third-from-last song was Julia Ecklar's "Phoenix" as done
>by Joey Shoji and Mary Ellen Wessels; that was when the
>audience started joining in on the choruses. Catherine [Cook]
>Mac donald raised the mood with "Witnesses' Waltz", and
>then Leslie led us all in "Hope Eyrie". If it isn't the prettiest
>recoding of that song there ever was, it was certainly the
>strongest.
>
>I was there...
>
John O'Halloran
I was 8 and my family always watched the launches. During the
launch I noticed all the adults were very keyed up. During the
actual landing and first moon walk, my mom couldn't pry me away
from the TV.
Challenger:
I was in the military, in a secure facility, on a errand, when our
"lights" went on. I rushed to the nearest office, to find that
I had missed the explosion by just a minute or two.
Lori Coulson wrote:
> I still haven't had the guts to listen to the Challenger Memorial
> Filktape...there it sits, pristine as the day it was made...
I listened to mine once.
When I was introducing my girlfriend (now wife) to filk, by running
through my collection. She asked about the CM tape. I told her
what it was and she should listen to it, but I would not listen
with her. I don't know if she ever did.
Mary Creasy writes:
> That tape has even more memories for those of us who were AT the
> Memorial, at BayFilk 3...Imagine about 200 filkers, many with tape
> decks and all with tissues, just barely 6 weeks after it happened.
> <<<clip>>>
> There was not a dry eye in the house.
Kathy Mar says it took all her control to sing her song and she
missed all the rest of the concert, because she was the bathroom
crying.
JohnO
Eloise Beltz-Decker
> Lori Coulson wrote:
> > Where was I when the Eagle landed? Smack dab in front of the TV set in
> > our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. But then, I'd watched every mission from
> > the time my Dad was stationed at Langley AFB--and the original seven
> > astronauts did part of their training there...
>
> Lucky you. I wasn't even conceived yet.
Me too - 1976 vintage.
> BJ, who *does* remember where she was when Challenger happened.....
Oh, geez, me too. In school. Watching it on a TV plugged into
that funky weird cable adapter in the wall of the classroom ... and we'd
written pen-pal letters to Christa McAuliffe's class, too. :-/ The
teacher was so floored by it, it took her several minutes to quit being
shocked and turn off the TV ... boy, school was like a grave for weeks.
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It will be a great day when our schools have
all of the money they need and the air force
has to hold a bake sale to buy bombs.
Margaret Middleton
Married to Diana Gallagher and recently moved to Florida. They've been
together 4 or 5 years now, and Marty's health crashed about 2 years back. For a
couple of weeks that January Diana wasn't sure he was going to survive, even.
The episode has left him with severe ataxia: he can type and get around pretty
good on one of those 3-wheeled motorchairs, but his hands don't coordinate well
enough for guitar playing any more, and his speech is badly messed up also. And
his stamina is shot, according to Kip McMurray, who saw him earlier this spring
at a con.
You can contact him online as mrb...@netscape.net;
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On <Jul 12 01:22>, Jonah Rapp <j.r...@usa.net> wrote;
j>Seeing as how I was born the day after Nixon was pardoned, the
j>entire Golden
j>Age of NASA passed me by (still bitter about that...).
It seems that with most new and great endeavors, there is a
generation
between discovery and exploitation... and that generation is just
about up.
I've watched satellites go from stunt to common everyday necessity,
and
there's a lot of pressure building up.
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Kay Shapero
I was a teenager when I watched the first moon landing on a black and
white
tv in my living room (I don't think we had a color set yet, not that
it
would have made much difference. :->) Halfway through I got up and
went
outside, just to look up at the moon and think of how people were
actually
up there. Somehow it made it feel more real.
Challenger I didn't watch - I was expecting Vicky and wasn't getting
up any
earlier than I absolutely had to, and missed the launch. A friend
called
me from Florida and told me what happened.
At least someone had the sense to put Dr. Feynman on the panel that
investigated it. (OTOH I've seen what looks remarkably like that
^&*( puff
of vapor on subsequent launches. Just how much HAVE they fixed, I
wonder...)
Xenophile
>>Where was I when the Eagle landed? Smack dab in front of the TV set in
>>our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. But then, I'd watched every mission from
>>the time my Dad was stationed at Langley AFB--and the original seven
>>astronauts did part of their training there...
>>
>>(Mommy, they *can't* be astronauts! Honey, of course they are, why do you
>>say that? They're not wearing space suits... Me, at a parade in honor of
>>the original seven at LAFB)
>>
>>Lori Coulson
>
>Lucky you. I was only 9 months old. My father insisted my mother feed me in
>front of the TV so he could tell everyone his daughter watched the landing.
>
> Bonnie B. o/'
>
Cool. So, you watched the landing. So did I, at about 3 years of
age. I watched them all, and my oldest memory I can even *start* to
put a date to is watching a man walk on the Moon. Can't remember
which mission, but I think it might've been XIV.
>
>Now that was short and pointless, wasn't it?
xenophile (ZEEN-oh-file): n.
1) one who has a fondness, desire or love for that which is different, foreign, or exotic.
2) an exellent comic magazine written and penciled by Phil Foglio (spelled "xXxenophile").
Barsoom has automation.
vixy (Michelle Hansard)
Ellis) wrote:
>I knew that this was One of Those Events That Changes the World.
>
>So why hasn't it, dammit?
This question always puts me in mind of a quote from Mary Stewart's
_The Crystal Cave_. Arthurian legend, and refers to Aurelius
Ambrosius, but feels to me as though it applies...
"I have noticed that this is often the way with men who set their
lives towards the distant glow of one high beacon; when the hilltop is
reached and there is nowhere further to climb, and all that is left is
to pile more on the flame and keep the beacon burning, why, then, they
sit down beside it and grow old."
Racing the Russians toward one beacon, the moon... after that, no goal
quite so clear. No opponent to beat.
--
Michelle Hansard, v...@u.washington.edu
http://students.washington.edu/~vix
Now here, you see, it takes all the running you can do,
to keep in the same place.
--Lewis Carroll, _Through the Looking Glass_
Matt Leger
XI landed on Luna, and spent my mornings glued to the TV watching Walter
Cronkite on CBS reporting in those famous sonorous tones the progress of the
three men making that "one small step." Then I got dressed in my little blue
sweater and necktie, picked up my miniature briefcase and went off to
kindergarten. (That's not a joke, folks; I really did dress like that. I don't
recall if it was my idea or my late mother's, or why I would have wanted to; she
seemed to think it was mine, and called me "the Little Professor.") This is one
of the earliest memories I still possess.
When Challenger went down, I was working in my very first real job after
graduating from Louisiana State University (Go Tigers!), putting my
still-damp-inked BFA in Graphic Design to use in a small sign and T-shirt shop
called Graffiti Graphics in the Carrollton section of New Orleans. The boss, one
Henry Holzenthal, was a bit of a pill to work for (he fired me a year later),
but he dragged a TV set into the office that morning, I think just after hearing
about the explosion, and we all watched the replays in horror. I hung a black
ribbon from the porch of the shotgun-house apartment I lived in at the time for
a week thereafter with the single word "Challenger" in white on it.
A short while later, this came out of me:
FLYING FREE
Music and lyrics by Matt G. Leger (c) 1986-1999. Distribution and performance
freely permitted as long as this credit is retained.
Since the dawn of time, we've all been looking to the sky;
The final frontier calls to us like siren-song on high.
From those first few steps that Goddard took to Armstrong's giant leap,
We've been pushing back the boundaries that gird the starry deep.
Seven souls who shared this dream gave Challenger her crew --
Physicists and engineers and a young schoolteacher, too.
They knew their lives were on the line, that they risked death and pain,
But they believed it worth the risk for all there was to gain.
CHORUS / Flying free, flying free,
Soaring higher than the eagles, flying free,
She set out to cross the border
When they gave the launching order
Taking all our hopes aboard her, flying free.
As she thundered through the heavens, we all watched and cheered her on,
But the cheering turned to crying when we learned that she was gone.
No one wanted to believe it -- all humanity stood shocked,
And it seemed as though the future's door had just been slammed and locked.
But like the phoenix from the flames, the dream had its rebirth,
For you can't keep the human spirit tied down to the Earth.
Her mem'ry will be honored in each blast-off's blaze and roar;
Her sacrifice deserves no less...or else what was it for?
CHORUS / Flying free, flying free,
Soaring higher than the eagles, flying free,
Reaching for the stars together,
More determined now than ever
In our hearts you'll live forever, flying free.
(Key change)
Flying free, flying free,
Soaring higher than the eagles, flying free,
From the ashes of our sorrow
Rises hope for a new tomorrow;
In your footsteps we will follow, flying free,
Flying free!
JARVIS + MCAULIFFE + MCNAIR + ONIZUKA + RESNIK + SCOBEE + SMITH
STS-51 CHALLENGER
YOUR BRAVERY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN
(Above is [almost] verbatim from MATT G. LEGER'S BOOK OF DEMENTED, DERANGED &
DEGENERATE FILKSONGS #3, self-published in 1986. Song last performed publicly at
Second Concerto, The East Coast Filk Con, 1998.)
Matt
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Stephen R. Savitzky
> There was not a dry eye in the house.
Kinda hard to sing, too, when you're fighting back tears.
I was at work when the Challenger blew; had trouble believing it until I
came home and saw it (endlessly) on the news. I think that forked
smoketrail is burned into the memory of everyone who saw it.
There was a housefilk here in the Bay Area about a week after the
disaster; that also was pretty intense.
As for the Moon Landing, for the life of me I can't recall where I was!
I had just moved out to California for grad school, so I must have
watched it on some TV at Stanford, but I don't remember which one. When
you get older two things start to go: one is your memory...
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Chris Croughton
<matt...@SPAMSUX.earthlink.net> wrote:
>When Challenger went down, I was working in my very first real job after
>graduating from Louisiana State University (Go Tigers!), putting my
>still-damp-inked BFA in Graphic Design to use in a small sign and
>T-shirt shop
Sorry, you were doing /what/ with Banned From Argo? <g>
(I assume that those initials stand for something else but I can't think
what...)
>FLYING FREE
>Music and lyrics by Matt G. Leger (c) 1986-1999. Distribution and performance
>freely permitted as long as this credit is retained.
>(Above is [almost] verbatim from MATT G. LEGER'S BOOK OF DEMENTED,
>DERANGED & DEGENERATE FILKSONGS #3, self-published in 1986.
I like the song, is the tune available? (ASCII or conventional staff
notation, MIDI file, or whatever.)
Chris C
Dave Weingart
>On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 05:11:12 -0400, Matt Leger
>>T-shirt shop
>
>Sorry, you were doing /what/ with Banned From Argo? <g>
>
>(I assume that those initials stand for something else but I can't think
>what...)
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James Walton
VI> Lucky you. I wasn't even conceived yet.
No, actually lucky you. If you had been old enough to have watched
the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
old ain't no fun.
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Holly Sullivan
jw> No, actually lucky you. If you had been old enough to have
watched the
jw> Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
old
jw> ain't no fun.
Speak for yourself. I certainly saw it land (my mother made sure I
would get to see it, knowing of my interest in things related to
space and SF).. now I'm 36 and I don't feel old. :-)
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Jonah Rapp
> On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:51:44 -0400, filker...@mindspring.com (Joe
> Ellis) wrote:
>
> >I knew that this was One of Those Events That Changes the World.
> >
> >So why hasn't it, dammit?
>
> This question always puts me in mind of a quote from Mary Stewart's
> _The Crystal Cave_. Arthurian legend, and refers to Aurelius
> Ambrosius, but feels to me as though it applies...
>
> "I have noticed that this is often the way with men who set their
> lives towards the distant glow of one high beacon; when the hilltop is
> reached and there is nowhere further to climb, and all that is left is
> to pile more on the flame and keep the beacon burning, why, then, they
> sit down beside it and grow old."
>
> Racing the Russians toward one beacon, the moon... after that, no goal
> quite so clear. No opponent to beat.
One of the scientists at NASA put it nicely: "I think the real reason we
stopped at the moon and didn't go any further was that we didn't find any
Klingons."
--Jonah
Maureen O'Brien
weird noises in the hallway, and for some reason I remembered that it
was just about launch time. Then the principal got on the PA and said
there'd been an accident.
My next period was gym class. The PE teacher had TVs out, and we
watched the replays. It was very hard on everyone. Dayton's a pro-space
town.
Maureen
Chris Croughton
<James....@129-260.bdragon.shore.net> wrote:
>No, actually lucky you. If you had been old enough to have watched
>the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
>old ain't no fun.
Hey!
I resemble that remark!
Chris C
Lee Gold
>
> On 14 Jul 99 00:55:02 GMT, James Walton
> <James....@129-260.bdragon.shore.net> wrote:
>
> >No, actually lucky you. If you had been old enough to have watched
> >the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
> >old ain't no fun.
I suppose it all depends on your definition of Old. When I numbered
my age in single digits, I thought that Old started at 25. The
"never trust anybody over 30 crowd" were only a bitmore flexible.
Nowadays I think Old depends on whether I can scamper around or
walk slowly, but that's less due to old age than to having been
rear-ended several times by trucks.
--Lee
Jette Goldie
James Walton wrote in message <550_990...@bdragon.shore.net>...
>
>
>
> VI> Lucky you. I wasn't even conceived yet.
>
>the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
>old ain't no fun.
Phhthhtt!!
I am not old and I'm having lots and lots of fun <g>
Jette
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Karen Rodgers
wrote:
>On 14 Jul 99 00:55:02 GMT, James Walton wrote:
>
>>No, actually lucky you. If you had been old enough to have watched
>>the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
>>old ain't no fun.
>
>Hey!
>
>I resemble that remark!
>
Hurrumph. I don't think being 36, going on 37 qualifies as being Old.
Karen Rodgers
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>Hurrumph. I don't think being 36, going on 37 qualifies as being Old.
Nor does 37 going on 3.
Larry Kirby
<bosslad...@my-deja.com> writes:
>
>I am not old and I'm having lots and lots of fun <g>
>
I'm not old, but I can see if from here without my glasses. But old is
state of mind. Last week on days I was working the control room, and when an
older engineer was talking to a newbie about how well trained and serious the
operators were in our building I popped out with:
The beagle's been sanded
Hide your puppies well
Snoopy won't roll in the dust again.
Both looked at me stunned, then turned and slowly walked away. I figure
as long as I can do that, I'm not THAT old yet.
I would change my sig. but I keep forgetting.
Larry Kirby Bi-Polar...all the fun of MPD without the memory loss.
Melinda Hunter
for the rest of the day and we all (thrityfive kids and about eight teachers
and staff ) wandered around in a daze - "dealing" with our feelings.
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Joseph Kesselman, yclept Keshlam
> No, actually lucky you. If you had been old enough to have watched
> the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
> old ain't no fun.
I beg to differentiate, if not to integrate... I remember most of the
space program and while I am forced to admit that I can no longer think
of myself as a kid, I'm still not entirely sure I'm a grown-up either,
and don't expect to be Old for some time.
<sfx type="whistling dentures">
No matter what some... ehr... young whippershnapper thinks.
</sfx>
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from phyd...@liii.com (Dave Weingart) contains these words:
> One day in Teletubbyland, k-wx-rod-wx-gers-wx-@-wx-ho-wx-me.com (Karen Rodgers) said:
> >Hurrumph. I don't think being 36, going on 37 qualifies as being Old.
> Nor does 37 going on 3.
Hey, don't knock it.
When I was young, I couldn't wait to be middle-aged; much more fun, I
decided. And I was right. Youth is just kids' stuff.
Mike Van Pelt
James Walton <James....@129-260.bdragon.shore.net> wrote:
>
> VI> Lucky you. I wasn't even conceived yet.
>
>the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
>old ain't no fun.
Being old isn't half bad, considering the alternative.
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Len Zettel
Mike Van Pelt wrote:
>
> In article <550_990...@bdragon.shore.net>,
> James Walton <James....@129-260.bdragon.shore.net> wrote:
> >
> > VI> Lucky you. I wasn't even conceived yet.
> >
> >No, actually lucky you. If you had been old enough to have watched
> >the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
> >old ain't no fun.
>
> Being old isn't half bad, considering the alternative.
>
How can you know if you haven't tried it?
-LenZ-
David G. Bell
see.address...@nospam.org "David Arcana" writes:
> On 11 Jul 1999 09:15:15 -0400, lcou...@gcfn.org (Lori Coulson) wrote:
>
> >
> >Where was I when the Eagle landed? Smack dab in front of the TV set in
> >our house in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. But then, I'd watched every mission from
> >the time my Dad was stationed at Langley AFB--and the original seven
> >astronauts did part of their training there...
>
> I used to watch every mission -- the last one I watched "live" was
> Challenger. Somehow it just wasn't the same thereafter, and I still
> can't listen to Leslie's "Nightmare Ride" without tears.
This afternoon, Channel 4 television in the UK started showing a series
of reports on the Apollo 11 mission, tracking the events of 30 years ago
with a mix of personal recollections and the actual pictures of the
time.
They showed the last minute or so of the countdown without any added
commentary, and the first minute or so of the flight, and concluded a
little short of Apollo reaching orbit.
I watched that gleaming white pillar in the Florida sun, and saw it rise
on a pillar of flame and smoke, and I wept for what we have lost. I
wept for the loss of the Great Dream, that let politicians take risks
that they would never dare today. I wept for what might have been.
I wept for the memory of what I was, thirty years ago, innocent and
still able to have dreams.
And I find I can't go on here... I'll set the video recorder, and tape
all the programs, but I wonder if I dare watch them, and if I dare
remember how good it felt to be alive in 1969.
--
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Mark A Mandel
: VI> Lucky you. I wasn't even conceived yet.
: No, actually lucky you. If you had been old enough to have watched
: the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
: old ain't no fun.
Well, it sure beats the alternative!
-- Mark A. Mandel
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Kay Shapero
On <Jul 13 15:18>, John O'Halloran <jo...@brightlight.com> wrote;
j>When I was introducing my girlfriend (now wife) to filk, by
j>running
j>through my collection. She asked about the CM tape. I told her
j>what it was and she should listen to it, but I would not listen
j>with her. I don't know if she ever did.
You're not alone. I don't believe I have ever listened to the entire
tape
in one sitting. I don't think I could handle it.
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Carol Phillips
Sorry to unlurk on such a non-topic item.
I don't remember the moon landing, although I was old enough that I might
have. I don't even remember begging to stay up, or being allowed to stay
up. I only remember wondering why everyone thought it was all so hard.
I do remember the Challenger accident.
I too couldn't believe it happened when my brother in law called me from
work. I spent the rest of the day using that as an excuse to get drunk. I
watched TV all day, trying to figure out how it could have been faked or
misunderstood.
My husband was at Rice U, here in Houston, in a graduate class, and he
didn't believe it either, until hearing it from a secretary, rather than
from other students. He and some fellow NASA geeks at Rice went to lunch and
speculated about the cause. He thought that solid rocket combustion was
dangerously temperature sensitive but he didn't know anything about o-rings
or field joints. (Anyone interested in reading his rant about why space
travel is so expensive should write to me, and I'll forward your request.)
He has a comment about the accident:
That business about some of the Challenger astronauts drowning is nonsense.
At least one of the astronauts activated his emergency oxygen pack before
losing consciousness due to not having a pressure suit. The question is
whether of them regained consciousness before being instantly crushed when
the crew compartment hit the water at several hundred miles per hour. The
entire crew compartment was like two feet tall when they got it out of the
water. They couldn't have died by drowning.
The reason the crew compartment came apart from the fuselage was not because
it was desinged for such a possibility, but because it was a two wall design
for thermal reasons. If you wanted to be able to get the crew compartment
out under a range of different accident circumstances, broad enough to be
worth the trouble and expense, you'd need to put rockets on the crew
compartment, and it would make the orbiter too nose heavy. You'd have to
put canards on it. You'd have to re-do a lot of aerodynamic work on it.
Carol redflame at ghg dot net
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James Walton
LM> I suppose it all depends on your definition of Old. When I
LM> numbered my age in single digits, I thought that Old started at
LM> 25. The "never trust anybody over 30 crowd" were only a
LM> bitmore flexible. Nowadays I think Old depends on whether I can
LM> scamper around or walk slowly, but that's less due to old age
LM> than to having been rear-ended several times by trucks.
Agreed. It depends on the definition. "You are as old as you feel"
is very true. But then there comes the point where chronological age
and how-you-feel age beging to overlap. Things go downhill after
that.
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Joe Ellis
James....@129-260.bdragon.shore.net (James Walton) wrote:
> VI> Lucky you. I wasn't even conceived yet.
>
> No, actually lucky you. If you had been old enough to have watched
> the Eagle land you would be Old by now. Take my word for it, being
> old ain't no fun.
Pfagh!
It beats the hell out of the alternative!
<<spoken as one who was born in the Year of Sputnik>>
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> Hurrumph. I don't think being 36, going on 37 qualifies as being Old.
I certainly hope not....
Steve
(born 20 July 1962)
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Chris Croughton
<ste...@Radix.Net> wrote:
>Karen Rodgers wrote:
>
>> Hurrumph. I don't think being 36, going on 37 qualifies as being Old.
>
> I certainly hope not....
>
>Steve
>(born 20 July 1962)
Kids! (I've got 6 years on you <g>...) In a bit over 5 months I'll be
able to say I've seen 6 decades - admittedly I don't remember /much/ of
the Fifties <g>...
(My mother says 70 isn't 'old' either...)
Chris C
Rick Bagnall
Heh. My great-grandmother, by at least one report, was still
volunteering/working (I can't remember which, off-hand) in a retirement home
when she was in her 70s. Supposedly, she did it because it felt good helping
old folks.
--Harlock--
aka Rick Bagnall
Age is relative. The older the relative you're confronted with, the younger
they think you are.
d...@america.net
:>Heh. My great-grandmother, by at least one report, was still
:>volunteering/working (I can't remember which, off-hand) in a retirement home
:>when she was in her 70s. Supposedly, she did it because it felt good helping
:>old folks.
Reminds me of a story my grandfather likes to tell about travelling
from North Carolina to Florida with his friends Pete and Virginia a
number of years back.
Pete had just gotten his AARP discount card, and was very eager to use
it wherever he went. That night, they stopped a little motel off of
I-75 which was run by three elderly sisters, the youngest of which was
in her late 80s.
Pete walked in, proudly set his AARP card on the counter and said
"Do you give a senior citizens discount?"
She looked down at the card with a faint expression of distate, then
looked up at him and said crossly, "What the *hell* is a senior citizen?"
Granddad said he figured if anyone came in that was senior to her, she
would give THEM a discount. :)
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>
> One day in Teletubbyland, "Jette Goldie" <bosslad...@my-deja.com> said:
> >Challenger I was doing the ironing and listening to radio.
>
> Challenger, I was at work, watching the launch on a little pocket TV with
> about a 2 inch diagonal B&W screen...
>
> Damn, that hurt
On the day of the Challenger disaster, I was out keeping a friend
company while his car was in the shop. We were both hard-core geeks, so
we were in an electronics shop in the mall watching the Challenger go up
on a dozen TVs at once.
Like the man said, damn that hurt. Different kind of hurt, though, I
imagine.
-Ailsa
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vision thing as soon as he gets his geography Contents under pressure
down. -Maureen Dowd Some settling may occur
RICK MCBROOM
As a boy. I followed the space program religiously, and was glued to
the
family TV set in Yorkville, IL for the Apollo XI landing.
I was heavily into model rocketry, and celebrated the landing by
launching
a rocket of my own design. I would have *liked* to have launched a
scale-
model of the Saturn V, but those kits were beyond my meager budget,
at the
time.
I've maintained an interest in both the space program and model
rocketry
over the years, though the latter has waxed and waned. The heaviest
period
of activity was '84 to '91, when my son became interested in model
rocketry.
To this day, I celebrate significant anniversaries of the space
program by
launching a commemorative model.. and yes, I *did* loft a scale model
Saturn
V for both the 20th and 25th anniversary of the moon landing. That
very same
model, though now a bit shop-worn, is scheduled to fly again on
Tuesday next.
... Young at Heart. Slightly Older in Other Places.
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Michael Liebmann
>>
>> I certainly hope not....
>>
>>Steve
>>(born 20 July 1962)
>
>Kids! (I've got 6 years on you <g>...) In a bit over 5 months I'll be
>able to say I've seen 6 decades - admittedly I don't remember /much/ of
>the Fifties <g>...
>
>(My mother says 70 isn't 'old' either...)
>
comes around, will be seeing their *7th* decade
Chris Croughton
<xwi...@cwix.com> wrote:
>Ah, Chris, I've got *2* years on YOU, and there are filkers who, when 1/1/01
>comes around, will be seeing their *7th* decade
Interesting, I'd have thought you were younger (from the way you write;
I still haven't met you as far as I know). I was referring to all those
kids who think late 30s is 'getting old'...
Yes, I know there are filkers older than me, several in Britain who meet
your description. (However, the decade, unlike the millenium, seems to
start with 00 - the Sixties ran from 1960 through 1969 for instance, not
'61 through '70. And your date notation is confusing - is that the
first day of the first month or the first month and first day? <g>)
My mother, who is a filker albeit a fairly recent one, will be able to
claim 9 decades, she was born in 1929...
Chris C
Harold Groot
>Ah, Chris, I've got *2* years on YOU, and there are filkers who, when 1/1/01
>comes around, will be seeing their *7th* decade
Calm down, it's only ones and zeros...
Mark A Mandel
: >Ah, Chris, I've got *2* years on YOU, and there are filkers who, when 1/1/01
: >comes around, will be seeing their *7th* decade
: Calm down, it's only ones and zeros...
IOW...
Ah, Chris, I've got *10* years on YOU, and there are filkers who, when
1/1/01 comes around, will be seeing their *111th* decade
Although Harold's "01" is short for "2001", which is 11110010001, if I did
it right... and that abbreviates just the same (though with much less
precision)!
-- Mark
Chris Croughton
<que...@sjm.infi.net> wrote:
>>Ah, Chris, I've got *2* years on YOU, and there are filkers who, when 1/1/01
>>comes around, will be seeing their *7th* decade
>
>Calm down, it's only ones and zeros...
But sometimes we run out of ones...
(Actually, we're more likely to run out of zeros, they're useful as
dinner plates so people keep stealing them...)
Chris C
Chris Croughton
<mam-DIE-S...@world.std.com> wrote:
> Ah, Chris, I've got *10* years on YOU, and there are filkers who, when
> 1/1/01 comes around, will be seeing their *111th* decade
<g>
>Although Harold's "01" is short for "2001", which is 11110010001, if I did
>it right... and that abbreviates just the same (though with much less
>precision)!
Actually 111 1101 0001 (easier to see with the spaces, I find). (I did
it in hex and then converted, I find it easier than straight binary
because there's less digits to remember: 2048 - (48-1) = 0x800 - 0x030 + 1
= 0x7D1. Geeks 'R' us <g>...)
Chris C
Joseph Kesselman, yclept Keshlam
>I would have *liked* to have launched a scale-
>model of the Saturn V, but those kits were beyond my
>meager budget, at the time.
I keep promising myself that I'll build one of those, now that (a) I can
afford one and (b) I live right next to an acceptably large high-school
athletic field...