"The Stanley Scale"
TTTO "The Richter Scale", words by J. Kent Clark, music by Elliott Davis
Gilbert took the measure of a Major-General's station
Catalogued a roster of essential information
But when I tried it out upon a "person on the street"
I found out that his knowledge was extremely incomplete
He measured seventeen on the Stanley Scale, a blooming ignoramus
Seventeen on the Stanley Scale, 'twill never make him famous
An intellect so dead it seemed that nothing could revive it
Seventeen on the Stanley Scale, he'd barely make a private
Well, I thought, a student would be bound to do much better
Surely she'd have learnt enough that testing wouldn't fret her
Sat her down to do the quiz, and find out what she knew
Sad to say, it turned out that she didn't have a clue
She measured thirty-five on the Stanley Scale, with half the answers made up
Thirty-five on the Stanley Scale, she couldn't keep her grade up
No teacher would have given her a star of gold or argent
Thirty-five on the Stanley Scale, perhaps she'd make a sergeant
Found an army man, all patriotic and hard-bitten
Just the sort of candidate for whom the test was written
Watched as he applied himself with will and fervour strong -
Luckily, he gets to serve his country, right or wrong
He measured fifty-four on the Stanley Scale, a semblance of a notion
Fifty-four on the Stanley Scale, no chance of a promotion
Couldn't see too far beyond the flag that he was wrapped in
Fifty-four on the Stanley Scale - and sadly he's a captain!
Looked up a professor with degrees and honours loaded
Clearly felt that trivia was useless and outmoded
No shortage of intelligence, indeed, but truth to tell,
All that specialising didn't serve her very well
She measured sixty-eight on the Stanley Scale, her score was merely decent
Sixty-eight on the Stanley Scale, with knowledge far too recent
Careless in her ivory tower of anything external
Sixty-eight on the Stanley Scale, she'd plateau out at colonel
Met a quiz show veteran, who vowed to go the distance
Said that general knowledge was his reason for existence
Rubbed his hands and set to it with undisguised zest
Totalled up his score - I must admit I was impressed
He measured ninety-three on the Stanley Scale, a stellar exhibition
Ninety-three on the Stanley Scale, he earned his top position
With information vegetable, animal and mineral
Ninety three on the Stanley Scale, a Modern Major General
Had an old man come to me and say he wished to try it
Seemed a very milquetoast, unassuming, shy and quiet
Sat down there and answered all the questions, one by one
Felt my jaw drop open when I saw what he had done
He hit one hundred on the Stanley Scale, with every answer peerless
One hundred on the Stanley Scale, a general proud and fearless
He signed his name with sudden flair and resolution manly
One hundred on the Stanley Scale, (retired) General Stanley
copyright Martin DeMello, Oct 2005
Thanks to Gary McGath and lj::countrycousin for helpful suggestions
martin
Nicely done. Does such test actually exist?
("That's another fine mess you've gotten us into, Stanley!")
--
Joe Kesselman, IBM Next-Gen Web Tech: XML, XSL, and more.
When the solution you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
When the problem you have is a nail, everything looks like a hammer.
Take the time to consider alternatives!
Obviously, I missed the URL. Oops, thanks...
--Lee
>Inspired by http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=8132256024337290883
>
>"The Stanley Scale"
>TTTO "The Richter Scale", words by J. Kent Clark, music by Elliott Davis
Alas, I'll never know my own rating on the Stanley Scale. I
got to the very last screen, and it wanted to verify my age before
it gave me my results. Unfortunately, it required JavaScript in
order to do it, and I have that disabled for security reasons.
ObFilk (ttto O Tannenbaum):
Oh, JavaScript Oh, JavaScript
Why don't you test, "Can I use it"?
Why do you wait to the last screen?
To code like this is quite obscene
My answers were all made, then you
Ignored them all. You have no clue
How frustrating your coding is
Please drop the scripting, coding whiz
--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" speakeasy "dot" net
Looking for a good MVS systems programmer position
Scored higher than 99% of males.
I wonder if the guy who made the quiz got Gilbetr's joke -- that
Major-General Stanley may have had decent trivial knowledge, but at his
profession he was a total idiot. The irony was apparent thirty years
later, when Englad bled to death on the fields of France because their
General Staff consisted entirely of men like Major-General Stanley.
I could have gotten a much higher score, but I preferred to answer it
honestly and see how much of a G&S hero *I* was.
37%. I think that leaves me stuck in the chorus. <grin/>
> Alas, I'll never know my own rating on the Stanley Scale. I
> got to the very last screen, and it wanted to verify my age before
> it gave me my results. Unfortunately, it required JavaScript in
> order to do it, and I have that disabled for security reasons.
Yes, I've learned to ignore all OKCupid quizzes for that reason.
I'll enable JavaScript for a site I trust, when it's really necessary,
but not just because some quiz insists on it -- and waits till you've
answered all the questions to frustrate you that way.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
Yahoo does Chinese dissidents. I don't do Yahoo.
>Just did mine. 59%.
>
>Scored higher than 99% of males.
>
Same here.
I'm not sure how it is scored. It said at the end that I got 40 out
of 40, but my "score" was:
In Training
You are 55% the model of a modern Major-General
You remind me of a young Major-General Stanley. With time, you could
be just as much the model of a modern Major-General as he is. Keep up
the good work!
My test tracked 1 variable How you compared to other people your age
and gender:
You scored higher than 99% on stanley-ness
--
Wes Struebing
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.
I'm molded from the very finest sort of polysterene
And when I am standing still I'm at attention like a gyrene
I am terribly collectible and sure to soon increase in price
-(aside)...increase in price... increase in price... ah! I've got it!-
...Like Spiderman and GI Joe or dolls of Condaleeza Rice!
(chorus repeats line)
I'm packaged with accessories well molded and desirable
I have the proper headgear and my gun looks really fireable
In short, invest in my line and you'll find you've picked a winner; all
In all I am the model of a modern Major-Gineral!
Kip W
> I'm molded from the very finest sort of polysterene
> And when I am standing still I'm at attention like a gyrene
> I am terribly collectible and sure to soon increase in price
On sober consideration of this impromptu, I wish to change these lines
to read:
I'm excellently crafted from the finest polyesterene
And when I'm standing still I'm at attention like the best Marine
I'm terribly collectible...
And so on from there. When I first wrote the couplet, I was thinking it
went in a different part of the tune, and I failed to adjust it when I
changed.
"Polyesterene" is a dubious word that appears only 488 times in a Google
search, but you can't properly make a Gilbertean omelet without breaking
the occasional word, eh?
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Kip W
> Kip Williams wrote:
> I'm excellently crafted from the finest polyesterene
> And when I'm standing still I'm at attention like the best Marine
> I'm terribly collectible...
>
> "Polyesterene" is a dubious word that appears only 488 times in a Google
> search, but you can't properly make a Gilbertean omelet without breaking
> the occasional word, eh?
Maybe "I'm EXcellently CRAFted from the FINest of polYstyrene"
(stresses marked with capitals). This uses the correct word but
messes up its usual syllable stresses.
--
Joel Polowin jpolow...@sympatico.ca but delete "XYZZy" from address
If the Corps is Mother, and the Corps is Father... you *might* be a redneck.
> Kip Williams wrote:
>
>> Kip Williams wrote:
>> I'm excellently crafted from the finest polyesterene
>> And when I'm standing still I'm at attention like the best Marine
>> I'm terribly collectible...
>>
>> "Polyesterene" is a dubious word that appears only 488 times in a
>> Google search, but you can't properly make a Gilbertean omelet without
>> breaking the occasional word, eh?
>
> Maybe "I'm EXcellently CRAFted from the FINest of polYstyrene"
> (stresses marked with capitals). This uses the correct word but
> messes up its usual syllable stresses.
Well, Gilbert did use that device when it suited him, to be sure. Given
a choice between the two, though, I prefer the one where the word
automatically scans correctly, especially as your solution puts a strain
on the next line that would then have to be addressed as well, and I'm
lazy today. I didn't intend to spend more than a quarter hour on this,
and I've now doubled that allotment. As I say, it's a reasonable
solution, but one I'm reluctant to adopt for other reasons.
What do you think of the third line, specifically the word "Plus"? I
went and struck it from the version I posted on my LJ, and I keep
dithering over whether to put it back. Old Man Dithers, that Old Man
Dithers...
Oh, and for those keeping track at home, please replace the first
'credible' with 'plausible.' The second one stays, as it is a rhyme.
Thanks ever so.
Kip W
>>> I've joints articulated that can march in a procession
>>> And my hands can hold a weapon; I've a credible expression
>>> Plus my figure is heroic and my costume too is credible
>>> My jaws move up and down like I was chewing something edible
> What do you think of the third line, specifically the word "Plus"? I
> went and struck it from the version I posted on my LJ, and I keep
> dithering over whether to put it back. Old Man Dithers, that Old Man
> Dithers...
It seems to need *some* weak syllable in that place, but I dislike
the use of "plus" in that way. Ideally the extra syllable would be
at the end of the preceding line or at least should rhyme with its
counterpart. Maybe something like "I've joints articulated, I can
do a march processional / My hands can hold a weapon and my face
is quite expressional"?
> Kip Williams wrote:
>
> >>> I've joints articulated that can march in a procession
>
>>>> And my hands can hold a weapon; I've a credible expression
>>>> Plus my figure is heroic and my costume too is credible
>>>> My jaws move up and down like I was chewing something edible
>
>> What do you think of the third line, specifically the word "Plus"? I
>> went and struck it from the version I posted on my LJ, and I keep
>> dithering over whether to put it back. Old Man Dithers, that Old Man
>> Dithers...
>
> It seems to need *some* weak syllable in that place, but I dislike
> the use of "plus" in that way. Ideally the extra syllable would be
> at the end of the preceding line or at least should rhyme with its
> counterpart. Maybe something like "I've joints articulated, I can
> do a march processional / My hands can hold a weapon and my face
> is quite expressional"?
The ghost of Schwenk says I should go for it. From his tone, I have the
impression he dictated it to you before he came over here.
I'll cut you in for 10%.
Kip W
When the scansion doesn't work but you can't bear to give up a word or
rhyme, consider moving it to mid-line...
My body's made of molded polystyrene of the finest sort
I do a fine impression of a gyrene standing at report
(I'm sure that this can be improved, it's just an illustration
of a way to overcome a poet's common consternation)
My heart belongs to Joel Polowin's couplet from earlier today. But your
advice is something I shall bear in mind for future excursions of the
sort, so thanks.
Kip W
Marvellous :)
martin
Aw, thanks!
Kip W
I'm moulded with precision from a substance polystyrenic
My posture is impeccable, my features nicely Byronic
martin
The way I have it is "polyESterene," which would rhyme with "best
Marine." I don't think a listener would have any problem with it, though
perhaps trials are in order. First, I go kidnap a listener...
Kip W
Missed that in print. Yes, that works when sung, and it fits with some
of G&S's own style of linguistic abuse. Quibble withdrawn.
> First, I go kidnap a listener...
I see; like the <generic-ethnic/> recipe for chicken stew.
One thing has puzzled me about this whole portion of this thread:
Polyesterene? (pol-y-EST-er-een)?
Are you sure you don't mean polystyrene? (pol-y-STY-reen)? That's the
kind of plastic models are usually made from... and it has a different
number of syllables, and requires a different rhyme
I started off with polysterene, but that left me a syllable short, and
adding a syllable before it would have thrown off the accent. So I
decided to take a leaf from Gilbert and torture the word until it fit
the meter, and then made a different rhyme for the next line.
Kip W
...but "polyesterene" _does_ exist... and it's something completely
different.
Good point. How about "polyesterine" with an i? Seems to be a sort of
epoxy resin, though I'm having a wretched time getting a straight answer
from Google, and my antiquated science encyclopedia is silent on the
subject.
Kip W
> Good point. How about "polyesterine" with an i? Seems to be a sort of
> epoxy resin, though I'm having a wretched time getting a straight answer
> from Google, and my antiquated science encyclopedia is silent on the
> subject.
There's so many different plastics used. Maybe you should break away
from the specifics, which would open up the rhyme-space. And WSG, in
this song, makes a distinction between the good rhymes and the strained
ones.
"I'm modelled from the finest sort of hydrocarbon polymer" for instance.
Or maybe "molecule".
Polystyrene is the standard for mass-market self-assembly kits, but a
lot of the song could apply to the 12-inch articulated figures such as
the original G.I. Joe; there's certainly companies still producing
soldiers in that format.
--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.
"I am Number Two," said Penfold. "You are Number Six."
> On Sunday, in article
> <1OidnYaxbtb8oPje...@comcast.com>
> ki...@comcast.net "Kip Williams" wrote:
>
>
>>Good point. How about "polyesterine" with an i? Seems to be a sort of
>>epoxy resin, though I'm having a wretched time getting a straight answer
>>from Google, and my antiquated science encyclopedia is silent on the
>>subject.
>
> There's so many different plastics used. Maybe you should break away
> from the specifics, which would open up the rhyme-space. And WSG, in
> this song, makes a distinction between the good rhymes and the strained
> ones.
I don't think "polyesterine" and "best marine" are all that strained,
actually, and an epoxy resin seems to be a reasonable enough substance,
especially as I am not actually making the figures up in order to add
artistic verisimilitude. I might ask Jon Singer what he thinks about it.
> "I'm modelled from the finest sort of hydrocarbon polymer" for instance.
> Or maybe "molecule".
Polymer doesn't lend itself readily to a rhyme, except maybe
"And I can stand attention, perfect for formations columnar" which
fudges a consonant on the final syllable, which to my ear sounds more
intrusive than having the fudged consonant occur in an unstressed
syllable in the middle of a three-syllable rhyme. Perhaps an interested
reader will craft a less labored line for that.
> Polystyrene is the standard for mass-market self-assembly kits, but a
> lot of the song could apply to the 12-inch articulated figures such as
> the original G.I. Joe; there's certainly companies still producing
> soldiers in that format.
I find myself not unsatisfied with what I have so far, but from the
reactions of others, it would certainly seem that this lack of
dissatisfaction is not universal. I won't make any changes just this
minute, but I don't consider the matter closed.
Kip W
(I have no opinion on whether that should be polyester-ine or
poly-esterine ... or the fully parsed poly-ester-ine.)
There's a dance club in Worchester called Polly Esther's. Just a block
or two down from the once and future site of ConCertino.
> Suggestion: If you're going to stick with polyesterine, hyphenate it so
> folks who are sight-reading the lyrics don't misread it.
Good idea. Sounds like you've had to sight-read stuff before! Let's hope
nobody confuses it for real Gilbert and pronounces it with a long "i."
Kip W
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:58:07 -0400, Joe Kesselman
> <keshlam...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Michael Hopcroft wrote:
> >> I got higher than 99%.
> >
> >I could have gotten a much higher score, but I preferred to answer it
> >honestly and see how much of a G&S hero *I* was.
> >
> >37%. I think that leaves me stuck in the chorus. <grin/>
>
>
> I'm not sure how it is scored. It said at the end that I got 40 out
> of 40, but my "score" was:
I think that stat is just the number of questions you've *answered* (ie
how far along in the test you are).
> In Training
> You are 55% the model of a modern Major-General
> You remind me of a young Major-General Stanley. With time, you could
> be just as much the model of a modern Major-General as he is. Keep up
> the good work!
--
Aaron Davies
Opinions expressed are solely those of a random number generator.
Magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
Ho! Ha! Guard! Turn! Parry! Dodge! Spin! Thrust!
I got 76%, but that was due more to role-playing His Pomposity than to
actual knowledge (when in doubt, if asked whether I knew something, I
said yes, and if asked how much I knew, I said that I knew a lot).
--
Jeff Urs, IBM Global Services, Lexington, Kentucky
I've just read the whole conversation (whew...) May I have a copy of the
current version for the archives? I think I've got 5 in there now to
choose from... :)
> In all I am the model of a modern Major-Gineral!
Normally, I wouldn't say anything, but in this case, I am truly
confused. I don't believe that anyone mentioned this, so I don't know if
there is something I just don't know, or if this is a misspelling of
General.
--
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Geek Prophet to the Technologically Declined
Misspelling to indicate mispronunciation in order to weakly rhyme
"winner all" and "Gineral."
I did a doubletake myself.
That's one of Gilbert's.
"In short, in matters animal and vegetable and mineral
I am the very model of a modern Major-Gineral."
He says it twice. (The second time is exactly the same as the one quoted
above, and if I could have kept this explanation a bit shorter, it would
almost certainly have saved me some typing, and you some reading.) Given
the propensity for encores in such things, I wouldn't be surprised if he
didn't say it three times at least.
Kip W
Dr. Whom is in a nit-picking mood.
Dr. Whom is in a nit-picking mood.
Dr. Whom is in a nit-picking mood.
Kip:
> Condaleeza Rice!
Make that Cond{o}lee{zz}a. (www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/ricebio.html; they
ought to know)
Keshlam:
>There's a dance club in Worchester called Polly Esther's. Just a block
>or two down from the once and future site of ConCertino.
Not unless it's in Wor{c}ester (Mass.).
-- Mark A. Mandel, The Filker With No Nickname
http://filk.cracksandshards.com
Now on the Filker's Bardic Webring!
Hm, I can see missing the double z, but a for o is embarrascading. I'll
endeavor to get it right if I have occasion to type it out again. Thanks
for the intervention.
Kip W
victim of apathy
Are you accusing me of being saucy, Mark? (Chorrechtion acchepted.)
> I started off with polysterene, but that left me a syllable short, and
> adding a syllable before it would have thrown off the accent. So I
> decided to take a leaf from Gilbert and torture the word until it fit
> the meter, and then made a different rhyme for the next line.
If a word doesn't fit, use a larger hammer. And I like "polyesterene" --
it's evident it's just a made up word for "plastic" :-)
Or possibly the Leisure Suit Molecule.
Kip W
Rich Brown wrote:
> If a word doesn't fit, use a larger hammer. And I like "polyesterene" --
> it's evident it's just a made up word for "plastic" :-)
Actually, it's not. Plastic simply means "Man Made" however we have
narrowed it a bit in common use to men a list of things, of which
Polystyrene is one item, As is PVC and Acrylic and a host of other types
of plastic. So, if you have a room full of assorted plastics, one
piece of each and every plastic made. there will be a hunk of Poly in
the room, but just one, out of dozens, if not hundreds of items
Not quite. Look up "plasticity". The term's just been colloquialized to
refer to a group of materials (typically man-made polymers) which have
this property.
Vain attempt to make this music-related: A disco in Worcester MA -- just
a few blocks from where ConCertino '06 will be held -- has been
operating under the name Polly Esther's.
--
Joe Kesselman / Beware the fury of a patient man. -- John Dryden
>> Actually, it's not. Plastic simply means "Man Made"
>
>Not quite. Look up "plasticity". The term's just been colloquialized to
>refer to a group of materials (typically man-made polymers) which have
>this property.
>
Right. John, check out http://www.answers.com/topic/plastic - it
gives 10 definitions of the adjective and 3 of the noun form. The
last one is the only "man-made" one.
>Vain attempt to make this music-related: A disco in Worcester MA -- just
>a few blocks from where ConCertino '06 will be held -- has been
>operating under the name Polly Esther's.
She and I went to different schools together...
--
Wes Struebing
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.
Joseph Kesselman wrote:
>> Actually, it's not. Plastic simply means "Man Made"
>
>
> Not quite. Look up "plasticity". The term's just been colloquialized to
> refer to a group of materials (typically man-made polymers) which have
> this property.
One of the dangers of either reading one line or quoting out of context
is that you failed to note I went on to state very much the same thing
you are "Correcting". Also, Plasticity is not the same as Plastic, not
that it matters.
Of course if your reason for the post was the club "Poly Ester" Good pun