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gym...@hotmail.com

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Oct 29, 2005, 9:08:28 PM10/29/05
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I am interested in exploring historical pronuncation and looking for a
good example in a recording, along the lines of A.G. Rigg's chapter
"Anglo-Latin" in Singing Early Music. Groups such as the Hilliard
Ensemble and Chapelle du Roi supposedly use historical Latin
pronunciation, yet when I listen to them I really don't hear it. It's
very surprising to me that with all of the interest in HIP, that so few
groups seem to take pronunciation into account. Anyone have suggestions
on where I could look? -Liz

Terry Simmons

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Oct 30, 2005, 3:20:10 AM10/30/05
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In article <1130634508.5...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gym...@hotmail.com wrote:

If you have come to the conclusion that the pronunciation of the Hilliards is
not "it", you must already have a pretty good idea of what constitutes "it".

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Cheers!

Terry

Johannes Patruus

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Oct 30, 2005, 3:40:57 AM10/30/05
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gym...@hotmail.com wrote:

Unfortunately Harold Copeman's books on the subject are out of print:
http://tinyurl.com/aws47 & http://tinyurl.com/7toyk

Johannes

John Briggs

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Oct 30, 2005, 7:56:49 AM10/30/05
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That is because they were self-published, and he died a couple of years ago.
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gym...@hotmail.com

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Oct 30, 2005, 9:02:53 AM10/30/05
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I described very specifically what I was looking for. What I hear in
the two mentioned ensembles sounds very Italianate, most definitely not
"it." Perhaps you could have come up with a suggestion that actually
answered my question.

gym...@hotmail.com

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Oct 30, 2005, 9:04:10 AM10/30/05
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Yes, I'm familiar with his book "Singing in Latin." What I'm looking
for is some suggestions for recordings that might come close to the
example I described.

gym...@hotmail.com

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Oct 30, 2005, 10:17:14 AM10/30/05
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Well to answer my own question, and in case anyone else is interested
in the topic ... I Fagiolini, The Caged Bird. Judging by the sound
samples on amazon.com, this should be exactly what I was looking for.

Mark

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Oct 30, 2005, 3:42:53 PM10/30/05
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gym...@hotmail.com wrote in
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Did Parrott ever record Byrd's works? From the recordings I've heard, he
strikes me as someone who is a stickler for HIP pronunciation.

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Mark

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gym...@hotmail.com

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Oct 30, 2005, 10:35:33 PM10/30/05
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Excellent suggestion, especially considering that Parrott wrote a
preface for Copeman's Singing in Latin. However, a glance at the
Taverner Choir website seems to indicate the answer would be no, as
Byrd is not represented in the list of recordings. Thanks for your
idea, though.

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