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Ernic Kamerich

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Nov 19, 2008, 5:01:02 AM11/19/08
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An interesting project! Does it include more recordings than available on
youtube or only youtubes? The keyword "medieval" in youtube yields a bulk
of recordings of music, mostly non-medieval, but at te same time not all
medieval music on youtube can be found this way. So a list of samples of
medieval music would be welcome. I would like to learn from others by
listening to performances and discussing the ideas and qualities of
performances, including my own contribution on youtube (Istanpitta Ghaetta,
played quite differently from other performances I know).
So, I am very much interested in such a list. Bill, is it you who makes this
list or someone else? Will it be available on internet or even editable?

Ernic Kamerich


2008/11/18 jerom...@comcast.net <jerom...@comcast.net>- Tekst uit
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On Nov 18, 8:47 am, bill <billkilpatr...@virgilio.it> wrote:
> currently, on youtube, someone is compiling samples of how various
> artists have performed medieval music - saltarello(i) included. in
> order to distinguish one from the other, he's assigned names to them -
> "rain saltarello" and "miracles saltarello" being two examples. is
> there a less subjective method of distinguishing one from the other?
> have they been catalogued previously in any other way?

The usual way of designating pieces such as these is to reference the
manuscript source and folio number(s). For example, British Library
Add. 29987, folio 62r is the first of four saltarelli in this famous
late-14th century Italian manuscript (sometimes informally abbreviated
as "Lo"). Occasionally you will see these four saltarelli simply
numbered, though this too requires that the manuscript source be
identified.

--
Jerry Kohl

bill

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Nov 19, 2008, 5:27:59 AM11/19/08
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On Nov 19, 11:01 am, "Ernic Kamerich" <e.kamer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> An interesting project! Does it include more recordings than available on
> youtube or only youtubes? The keyword "medieval" in  youtube yields a bulk
> of recordings of music, mostly non-medieval, but at te same time not all
> medieval music on youtube can be found this way. So a list of samples of
> medieval music would be welcome. I would like to learn from others by
> listening to performances and discussing the ideas and qualities of
> performances, including my own contribution on youtube (Istanpitta Ghaetta,
> played quite differently from other performances I know).
> So, I am very much interested in such a list. Bill, is it you who makes this
> list or someone else? Will it be available on internet or even editable?
>
> Ernic Kamerich
>
> 2008/11/18 jeromek...@comcast.net <jeromek...@comcast.net>- Tekst uit

> oorspronkelijke bericht niet weergeven -
>
> On Nov 18, 8:47 am, bill <billkilpatr...@virgilio.it> wrote:
>
> > currently, on youtube, someone is compiling samples of how various
> > artists have performed medieval music - saltarello(i) included.  in
> > order to distinguish one from the other, he's assigned names to them -
> > "rain saltarello" and "miracles saltarello" being two examples.  is
> > there a less subjective method of distinguishing one from the other?
> > have they been catalogued previously in any other way?
>
> The usual way of designating pieces such as these is to reference the
> manuscript source and folio number(s). For example, British Library
> Add. 29987, folio 62r is the first of four saltarelli in this famous
> late-14th century Italian manuscript (sometimes informally abbreviated
> as "Lo"). Occasionally you will see these four saltarelli simply
> numbered, though this too requires that the manuscript source be
> identified.
>
> --
> Jerry Kohl

the guy who's compiling these song samples - fabio - can be found
here:

http://uk.youtube.com/user/musiclivefolkstudio

... here's his reply to the question asked:

"The Saltarellos have not a title, they all are called simply
"Saltarello", so I need to distinguish one music from another.

To distinguish the Saltarellos' music I've given them the name of the
song in wich I heard them the first time. I knew the first Saltarello
in a song titled "Pioggia" ("Rain") so I gave to the music the name of
"Rain saltarello". I've listened the other one in a song about
Francesco d'Assisi titled "Il trattato dei miracoli""("The treatise of
miracles"), so I called the music "Miracles Saltarello").
There is another Saltarello in my vids that I heard in a medley with
"The Tristan Lament", so I called it "Saltarello di Tristano")."

like fabio, i think we can all come up with names to distinguish these
songs, one from the other - i just wanted to know if anyone had
established a precedent earlier.

regards - bill

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