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clamnebula

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Aug 24, 2003, 12:11:26 PM8/24/03
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I don't make this stuff up, honest!
-Neb

---Original Message---
Black Sabbath songs covered by medieval music band Rondellus
http://www.sabbatum.com/

“Sabbatum” is a tribute album like no other – 12 Black Sabbath classic songs
played by early music band Rondellus and sung in Latin language.

Can You imagine what Black Sabbath would have sounded like if Ozzy Osbourne,
Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward would have formed the band in the 14th
century? Would “War Pigs” or “The Wizard” have been as powerful if played on
medieval
instruments like lute, fiddle and harp?

Curious? So was Rondellus, the renowned Estonian medieval music band. They took
12 Black Sabbath classics and turned them into something totally unheard.

You don’t have to take history lessons to get the feeling. It’s all on the new
CD Rondellus recorded – “Sabbatum”. An amazing collection of Black Sabbath tunes
played on medieval instruments and sung in Latin language.


Bob Lombard

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Aug 24, 2003, 1:01:24 PM8/24/03
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"clamnebula" <SHELLcl...@netscape.netSHELL> wrote in message
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> I don't make this stuff up, honest!
> -Neb

>Curious? So was Rondellus, the renowned Estonian medieval music band. They


took
>12 Black Sabbath classics and turned them into something totally unheard.
>

Is this another of those Cage things? 4' 33'' X 12?

bl


Matthew燘. Tepper

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Aug 24, 2003, 1:19:28 PM8/24/03
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"Bob Lombard" <hilltroll.at.@vermontel.net> appears to have caused the
following letters to be typed in news:802cefd47f43ef42ac6a3525cca85039
@news.teranews.com:

No, somebody noticed all the news articles about some Finnish professor who
made recordings of Elvis Presley songs translated into Latin, and decided
they wanted publicity like that:

http://www.mndaily.com/daily/1996/10/09/editorial_opinions/ofin.op/

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Dr.Matt

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I'd rather hear Red Wizard play real historical music.

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Jaakko Mäntyjärvi

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Aug 24, 2003, 1:46:15 PM8/24/03
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clamnebula wrote:
> I don't make this stuff up, honest!
> -Neb
>
> ---Original Message---
> Black Sabbath songs covered by medieval music band Rondellus
> http://www.sabbatum.com/
>
> “Sabbatum” is a tribute album like no other – 12 Black Sabbath classic songs
> played by early music band Rondellus and sung in Latin language.
>
> Can You imagine what Black Sabbath would have sounded like if Ozzy Osbourne,
> Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward would have formed the band in the 14th
> century?

It would not have sounded like anything, because the chaps would have
been taken to be burned at the stake so fast that their feet would not
have touched the ground.

> Would “War Pigs” or “The Wizard” have been as powerful if played on
> medieval
> instruments like lute, fiddle and harp?

No. Vastly more comical, though.

> Curious? So was Rondellus, the renowned Estonian medieval music band. They took
> 12 Black Sabbath classics and turned them into something totally unheard.

In a related story, the Finnish cello quartet Apocalyptica have been
playing and recording heavy metal for years.


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John Oster

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Aug 24, 2003, 3:49:40 PM8/24/03
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Hmmm...rather pleasant, actually! Black Sabbath has always written rather
dark pseudo-medieval riffs, so their songs lend themselves nicely to this
treatment. Who knows...maybe it will turn some metalheads onto early music!


Daniel Kolle

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Aug 24, 2003, 4:38:49 PM8/24/03
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"John Oster" <shre...@sbcglobal.net> thought hard and said:

>Who knows...maybe it will turn some metalheads onto early music!

Hah.

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gm

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Aug 24, 2003, 4:49:29 PM8/24/03
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Jaakko Mäntyjärvi <jman...@pp.htv.fi> wrote in message news:<3F48F9E7...@pp.htv.fi>...

Hey, if the Kronos Quartet can play Jimi Hendrix, why shouldn't a
cello quartet play heavy metal? Just another badly-needed case of the
lead pipe being pulled out of classical music's ass. The medieval
Black Sabbath CD reminds me that years ago I saw Sabbath when they
were touring with Blue Oyster Cult (the "Black and Blue" tour). In
between acts, they played Lizst and Wagner orchestral pieces. And it
worked too!

Deryk Barker

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Aug 24, 2003, 5:16:57 PM8/24/03
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gm wrote:
....

> Hey, if the Kronos Quartet can play Jimi Hendrix,

But a single hearing of that track proves conclusively that the KQ *can't*
play Hendrix. I've seen Nige Kennedy make a fair crack at Purple Haze
though...

--
Deryk Barker (To email remove nospam.)

Alex (was 'Yes')

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Aug 24, 2003, 5:50:12 PM8/24/03
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Jaakko Mäntyjärvi <jman...@pp.htv.fi> wrote in message news:3F48F9E7...@pp.htv.fi...
clamnebula wrote:

> In a related story, the Finnish cello quartet Apocalyptica have been
> playing and recording heavy metal for years.

And fellow Finns "Ensemble Ambrosius" play the music of Frank Zappa on period instruments:

http://www.ensembleambrosius.com/zappa.html
http://www.united-mutations.com/e/ensemble_ambrosius.htm


Andrej Kluge

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Aug 24, 2003, 6:11:00 PM8/24/03
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Hallo Alex,

> And fellow Finns "Ensemble Ambrosius" play the music of Frank Zappa
> on period instruments:

Whose period? Zappa's?

Ciao
A.

Alex (was 'Yes')

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Andrej Kluge <thew...@onlinehome.de> wrote in message news:8sYYo...@onlinehome.de...

Francesco Zappa perhaps?


Jim Curtis

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Aug 24, 2003, 6:58:56 PM8/24/03
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could have done with more instrumental and less voices, at least by
the snippets. "Rotae Confusionis" is very pretty...I can see that one
having criss-crossover potential for the adult contemporary genre.
The female voices are much better than the male who no doubt listened
to ozzy singing the originals and realized the unmatched quality of
ozzy's vocal chords ( early 70's that is ), which may have caused some
shakiness in this guy's singing here.

Victor Eijkhout

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Aug 24, 2003, 6:35:06 PM8/24/03
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Andrej Kluge <thew...@onlinehome.de> wrote:

> > And fellow Finns "Ensemble Ambrosius" play the music of Frank Zappa
> > on period instruments:
>
> Whose period? Zappa's?

Right. Resurrect Don Preston's modular Moog, Eddie Jobson's Hammond, dig
up a Synclavier for the late 80s stuff....

V.
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Cabeza Borradora

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Aug 24, 2003, 8:20:31 PM8/24/03
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gm come on down:

>Hey, if the Kronos Quartet can play Jimi Hendrix,

...badly.

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Ben Wolfson

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Aug 24, 2003, 9:43:33 PM8/24/03
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In article <bibbsr$8t8$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Alex (was 'Yes') wrote:
>Jaakko Mäntyjärvi <jman...@pp.htv.fi> wrote in message
>news:3F48F9E7...@pp.htv.fi...
>clamnebula wrote:
>
>> In a related story, the Finnish cello quartet Apocalyptica have been
>> playing and recording heavy metal for years.
>
>And fellow Finns "Ensemble Ambrosius" play the music of Frank Zappa
>on period instruments:

So they play Zappa on the same instruments that were current when he
wrote his music? Far out.

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Jarl Sigurd

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Aug 24, 2003, 10:22:17 PM8/24/03
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"clamnebula" <SHELLcl...@netscape.netSHELL> wrote in message news:<bi52b.11334$99....@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com>...
> I don't make this stuff up, honest!
> -Neb
>
> ---Original Message---
> Black Sabbath songs covered by medieval music band Rondellus
> http://www.sabbatum.com/

To hear music by a peerless metal guitarist, who has always maintained
that there was no discernable difference between metal and classical,
visit:

http://JarlSigurd1.tripod.com/ampcast.htm

Sonarrat

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Aug 24, 2003, 11:03:23 PM8/24/03
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Oh, PLEASE tell me he's not back.

-Sonarrat.


ridetheory

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Aug 25, 2003, 1:42:41 AM8/25/03
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in article bi52b.11334$99....@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com, clamnebula at
SHELLcl...@netscape.netSHELL wrote on 8/24/03 9:11 AM:

> I don't make this stuff up, honest!
> -Neb
>
> ---Original Message---
> Black Sabbath songs covered by medieval music band Rondellus
> http://www.sabbatum.com/
>
> “Sabbatum” is a tribute album like no other – 12 Black Sabbath classic songs
> played by early music band Rondellus and sung in Latin language.

And they're doing quite nicely, thank you. Apparently they've made $30,000
on this one project alone. See:

http://www.cdbaby.org/stories/03/08/05/0321232.html

I have a fondness for classical versions of rock music -- when it works, it
works, and when it doesn't, it's pretty hilarious. Examples:

The Balanscu Quartet's versions of Kraftwerk are fitting because Alexander
Balanscu is an emotionless, stacatto and robotic violinist. Hearing him
reproduce the electronic beeps of "Pocket Calculator" and the doppler sounds
of car horns on "Autobahn" is amusing.

The two orchestral arrangements of Sex Pistols songs ("God Save the Queen"
and "EMI") from the soundtrack of "The Great Rock and Roll Swindle" are very
strong, but ruined by campy vocals. There was once a version of the LP
without the vocals, but I can't find a copy.

There is a whole series of "String Quartet Tribute to <ROCK BAND NAME HERE>"
CDs which are really awful. Perfunctory, and devoid of any style. Avoid at
all costs.

For pure hilarity, I recommend "The Doors Concerto", featuring Nigel
Kennedy. It made me laugh out loud a couple times.

ignatz topolino


Jim Curtis

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Aug 25, 2003, 1:51:15 AM8/25/03
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thew...@onlinehome.de (Andrej Kluge) wrote in message news:<8sYYo...@onlinehome.de>...

damn I wanted to hear some 17th century wah-wah.

Andrej Kluge

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Aug 25, 2003, 2:34:00 AM8/25/03
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Hallo Victor,

> Andrej Kluge <thew...@onlinehome.de> wrote:

>>> And fellow Finns "Ensemble Ambrosius" play the music of Frank
>>> Zappa on period instruments:
>>
>> Whose period? Zappa's?

> Right. Resurrect Don Preston's modular Moog, Eddie Jobson's
> Hammond, dig up a Synclavier for the late 80s stuff....

Well, in case nobody noticed my remark was meant ironically. Because,
IMHO, "period instruments" usually refers to instruments of the period
in which the musik was originally composed, right? That's why "music of
Zappa on period intruments" sounded ridiculous to me.

Ciao
A.

Dr.Matt

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Aug 25, 2003, 2:21:34 AM8/25/03
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In article <2b0cb046.03082...@posting.google.com>,

I watch out for my friends when they're about to have their periods.

Jerry Kohl

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Aug 25, 2003, 2:37:27 AM8/25/03
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Andrej Kluge wrote:

Irony is lost on r.m.e, at least. We're pre-iron age--only classic "rock"
means anything to us ... ;-)


--
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"Légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnakat."


Dr.Matt

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Aug 25, 2003, 2:45:23 AM8/25/03
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In article <8sYZE...@onlinehome.de>,

It's hard to set hands on an analog minimoog now.

Cabeza Borradora

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Aug 25, 2003, 6:27:30 AM8/25/03
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Jarl Sigurd come on down:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo

BREWERPAUL

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Aug 25, 2003, 7:27:25 AM8/25/03
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On a similar (?) note, there's Hayseed Dixie, which does bluegrass covers of
AC/DC tunes. They come across rather well actually!

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Victor Eijkhout

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Aug 25, 2003, 8:24:06 AM8/25/03
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Dr.Matt <fie...@tetris.gpcc.itd.umich.edu> wrote:

> It's hard to set hands on an analog minimoog now.

http://www.vintagesynth.org/moog/voyager.shtml

Victor Eijkhout

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ridetheory <ridet...@notmail.com> wrote:

> I have a fondness for classical versions of rock music -- when it works, it
> works, and when it doesn't, it's pretty hilarious.

Transplanting one style to another is usually hilarious.

http://music.lycos.com/artist/default.asp?QW=Run+C%26W

Hearing Stevie Wonder's clavinet lines (on Superstition) played on a
banjo still cracks me up.

Mike Borella

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Aug 25, 2003, 9:59:47 AM8/25/03
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clamnebula wrote:
> I don't make this stuff up, honest!
> -Neb
>
> ---Original Message---
> Black Sabbath songs covered by medieval music band Rondellus
> http://www.sabbatum.com/
>
> “Sabbatum” is a tribute album like no other – 12 Black Sabbath classic songs
> played by early music band Rondellus and sung in Latin language.
>
> Can You imagine what Black Sabbath would have sounded like if Ozzy Osbourne,
> Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward would have formed the band in the 14th
> century? Would “War Pigs” or “The Wizard” have been as powerful if played on

> medieval
> instruments like lute, fiddle and harp?
>
> Curious? So was Rondellus, the renowned Estonian medieval music band. They took

> 12 Black Sabbath classics and turned them into something totally unheard.
>
> You don’t have to take history lessons to get the feeling. It’s all on the new
> CD Rondellus recorded – “Sabbatum”. An amazing collection of Black Sabbath tunes
> played on medieval instruments and sung in Latin language.

I have this - its very good, much better than I expected.
--
Mike Borella
mike at borella dot net
http://www.borella.net

Avant Music News: http://www.borella.net/mike/blog/

stePH

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Aug 25, 2003, 10:48:14 AM8/25/03
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JarlS...@ausi.com (Jarl Sigurd) wrote in message news:<fa149b3.03082...@posting.google.com>...

>
> To hear music by a peerless metal guitarist, who has always maintained
> that there was no discernable difference between metal and classical,

... other than compositional complexity and harmonic depth, you mean?

stePH
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NP: Echolyn, "Until it Rains"

Owen Hartnett

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Aug 25, 2003, 12:39:28 PM8/25/03
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In article <ZTidne_VI7l...@wideopenwest.com>, Mike Borella
<mi...@borella.net> wrote:

> clamnebula wrote:
> > I don't make this stuff up, honest!
> > -Neb
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> > Black Sabbath songs covered by medieval music band Rondellus
> > http://www.sabbatum.com/
> >

> > ěSabbatumî is a tribute album like no other ń 12 Black Sabbath classic songs


> > played by early music band Rondellus and sung in Latin language.
> >
> > Can You imagine what Black Sabbath would have sounded like if Ozzy Osbourne,
> > Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward would have formed the band in the
> > 14th

> > century? Would ěWar Pigsî or ěThe Wizardî have been as powerful if played on


> > medieval
> > instruments like lute, fiddle and harp?
> >
> > Curious? So was Rondellus, the renowned Estonian medieval music band. They
> > took
> > 12 Black Sabbath classics and turned them into something totally unheard.
> >

> > You donít have to take history lessons to get the feeling. Itís all on the
> > new
> > CD Rondellus recorded ń ěSabbatumî. An amazing collection of Black Sabbath


> > tunes
> > played on medieval instruments and sung in Latin language.
>
> I have this - its very good, much better than I expected.

Isn't there a recording of the music of Mettalica done on a dozen or so
cellos?

-Owen

Mike Borella

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Aug 25, 2003, 1:09:29 PM8/25/03
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Owen Hartnett wrote:

Yes, I think it was a string quartet. I heard a little of it and what I
heard was interesting but not remarkable. Eventually I hope to track it
down...

David Whitbeck

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Aug 25, 2003, 1:14:52 PM8/25/03
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:39:28 -0400, Owen Hartnett <ow...@xids.xnet>
wrote:


>
>Isn't there a recording of the music of Mettalica done on a dozen or so
>cellos?
>
>-Owen

Oh yes I've heard their stuff as well. Apocalyptica is a quartet that
does Mettalica songs on cellos. Here is their website:
http://www.apocalyptica.com/home/index.php

David Whitbeck(delurking)

Barry Goldwater

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see...@for.real.addy (Victor Eijkhout) wrote in message news:<1g08nmz.1748unq70rjllN%see...@for.real.addy>...

> ridetheory <ridet...@notmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a fondness for classical versions of rock music -- when it works, it
> > works, and when it doesn't, it's pretty hilarious.
>
> Transplanting one style to another is usually hilarious.

You might want to check these out:

http://www.geocities/com/vanessasdanceparty/calypsosis.mid

http://home.earthlink.net/~eschoenberg/ramlinman.ra

Jarl Sigurd

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Aug 25, 2003, 8:13:13 PM8/25/03
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acet...@earthlink.net (stePH) wrote in message news:<59e1106e.0308...@posting.google.com>...

> JarlS...@ausi.com (Jarl Sigurd) wrote in message news:<fa149b3.03082...@posting.google.com>...
> >
> > To hear music by a peerless metal guitarist, who has always maintained
> > that there was no discernable difference between metal and classical,
>
> ... other than compositional complexity and harmonic depth, you mean?

All right, Mr. Nitpicker, how about shredding, thrashing and annihilation?

Bryant E. Russell

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Aug 25, 2003, 11:06:18 PM8/25/03
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"Alex (was 'Yes')" <n...@may.be> wrote in message
news:bibbsr$8t8$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...

> Jaakko Mäntyjärvi <jman...@pp.htv.fi> wrote in message
news:3F48F9E7...@pp.htv.fi...
> clamnebula wrote:
>
> > In a related story, the Finnish cello quartet Apocalyptica have been
> > playing and recording heavy metal for years.
>
> And fellow Finns "Ensemble Ambrosius" play the music of Frank Zappa on
period instruments:
>
> http://www.ensembleambrosius.com/zappa.html
> http://www.united-mutations.com/e/ensemble_ambrosius.htm

Try the Meridian Brass Ensemble. They've covered Bach/Gesualdo/Gibbons and
Zappa (different albums of course). While some of their CDs have shown up
in the cutout bins, they deserve a much better fate. Good musicians, plenty
of heart and ability.

http://www.meridianartsensemble.com/disc.htm

Well worth exploring


Barry Goldwater

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Aug 26, 2003, 1:39:35 AM8/26/03
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Cabeza Borradora

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Jarl Sigurd come on down:

>acet...@earthlink.net (stePH) wrote in message news:<59e1106e.0308...@posting.google.com>...

How about you go to hell and stay there?

Peter T. Daniels

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Victor Eijkhout

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Aug 26, 2003, 7:08:06 PM8/26/03
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Barry Goldwater <BarryGo...@ausi.com> wrote:

> http://home.earthlink.net/~eschoenberg/ramblinman.ra

Funny. I like the orchestral strings and their
I'm-going-to-play-my-rawhide-cliches-no-matter-what-the-melody-does
bloody mindedness.

Raymond Hall

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"ridetheory" <ridet...@notmail.com> wrote in message
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| in article bi52b.11334$99....@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com, clamnebula at
| SHELLcl...@netscape.netSHELL wrote on 8/24/03 9:11 AM:
|
| > I don't make this stuff up, honest!
| > -Neb
| >
| > ---Original Message---
| > Black Sabbath songs covered by medieval music band Rondellus
| > http://www.sabbatum.com/
| >
| > "Sabbatum" is a tribute album like no other - 12 Black Sabbath classic

songs
| > played by early music band Rondellus and sung in Latin language.
|
| And they're doing quite nicely, thank you. Apparently they've made
$30,000
| on this one project alone. See:
|
| http://www.cdbaby.org/stories/03/08/05/0321232.html
|
| I have a fondness for classical versions of rock music -- when it works,
it
| works, and when it doesn't, it's pretty hilarious. Examples:

Metallica did some things with strings, but ultimately, all these attempts
are doomed to failure imo. Mere attempts to "legitimise" one genre in terms
of another.

Strangely though, or perhaps not, if one has heard several early music
groups using really old instruments such as clackhorns, crumhorns, rattles,
weird sounding percussion instruments, bagpipe drones, then one can
appreciate and see some kind of connection with the more abrasive texture
which Rock often brings, textures which have been lost with the advent of
modern silky stringed orchestras, and muffled sounds coming from the rear.

Regards,

# http://www.users.bigpond.com/hallraylily/index.html
See You Tamara (Ozzy Osbourne)

Ray, Taree, NSW

Barry Goldwater

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"Raymond Hall" <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<bih306$97qhf$1...@ID-101911.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> Strangely though, or perhaps not, if one has heard several early music
> groups using really old instruments such as clackhorns, crumhorns, rattles,
> weird sounding percussion instruments, bagpipe drones, then one can
> appreciate and see some kind of connection with the more abrasive texture
> which Rock often brings, textures which have been lost with the advent of
> modern silky stringed orchestras, and muffled sounds coming from the rear.

In that latter part, are you referring to Spinal Tap's "Break like the Wind"?

David Whitbeck

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Aug 27, 2003, 11:18:26 AM8/27/03
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:53:29 +1000, "Raymond Hall"
<hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote:


>Metallica did some things with strings, but ultimately, all these attempts
>are doomed to failure imo. Mere attempts to "legitimise" one genre in terms
>of another.

I'm in pretty much complete disagreement. Rock bands doing a song
with strings can work. Ex: Eleanor Rigby. And I don't think the
purpose of using strings is to legitimize rock. The purpose is to use
a different kind of sound that a band or singer think is more
appropriate.

David Whitbeck

PJ

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Aug 28, 2003, 5:09:57 PM8/28/03
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 7:45:23 +0100, Dr.Matt wrote
(in message <7gi2b.2087$H91....@news.itd.umich.edu>):

> It's hard to set hands on an analog minimoog now.

There's a real cult thing now for the sound of the analoque synthesizers so
I've been told.

--
Patrick

Brighton, England

nona

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On 8/24/03 10:51 PM, in article
2b0cb046.03082...@posting.google.com, "Jim Curtis"
<jcurt...@msn.com> wrote:

"Lets Make The Water Turn Black" in the style of the Plague years...

nona

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Sep 22, 2003, 4:09:11 AM9/22/03
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On 8/25/03 5:32 AM, in article 1g08nmz.1748unq70rjllN%see...@for.real.addy,
"Victor Eijkhout" <see...@for.real.addy> wrote:

> ridetheory <ridet...@notmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a fondness for classical versions of rock music -- when it works, it
>> works, and when it doesn't, it's pretty hilarious.
>
> Transplanting one style to another is usually hilarious.
>
> http://music.lycos.com/artist/default.asp?QW=Run+C%26W
>
> Hearing Stevie Wonder's clavinet lines (on Superstition) played on a
> banjo still cracks me up.
>
> V.

How about rock or folk versions of classical music?

Try Sandy Bull's arrangement of Carmina Burana played on 5-string banjo! Ray
Manzarek's arrangement (Produced By Philip Glass and Kurt Munkacsi) is a
more substantial piece and one that generally works.

The Mass, long a focus of classical music, gets a heavy-rock treatment in
Ceremony: an Electronic Mass by Pierre Henry performed by Spooky Tooth. One
review: "There are some albums out there that completely defy genre
categorization. But every once in a blue moon, an album comes along that
manages to completely defy all rational explanation. This would be one of
those albums." As a fan more of Pierre Henry than Spooky Tooth, I find this
fascinating and rewarding listening...


nona

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Sep 22, 2003, 4:40:58 AM9/22/03
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On 8/27/03 8:18 AM, in article 3f4cca99...@news.psu.edu, "David
Whitbeck" <dwhi...@invalid.net> wrote:

Not quite Metalica but consider...
Cream - As You Said: Jack Bruce on cellos,
Velvet Underground with John Cale.

Lucy Bond

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Sep 22, 2003, 5:14:13 AM9/22/03
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In article <BB93F40D.8AF9%no...@ur.biz>, nona <no...@ur.biz> writes

Goddammitt.

I wish I had a recording of the folk-night when Cavalorn sang the folk-
version of Paranoid by Black Sabbath, accompanying himself on the
bodhran...

Lucy
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KGH

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Sep 23, 2003, 4:33:23 PM9/23/03
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Here's another fine Sabbath Tribute chew on.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006BXGK/qid=1064349026/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/102-5642838-7715337?v=glance&s=music

or should the link fail, go to Amazon.com popular music and look up
Opium Jukebox

regards
KGH

"clamnebula" <SHELLcl...@netscape.netSHELL> wrote in message news:<bi52b.11334$99....@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com>...

> I don't make this stuff up, honest!
> -Neb
>
> ---Original Message---
> Black Sabbath songs covered by medieval music band Rondellus
> http://www.sabbatum.com/
>

> ?Sabbatum? is a tribute album like no other ? 12 Black Sabbath classic songs


> played by early music band Rondellus and sung in Latin language.
>

> Can You imagine what Black Sabbath would have sounded like if Ozzy Osbourne,
> Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward would have formed the band in the 14th

> century? Would ?War Pigs? or ?The Wizard? have been as powerful if played on


> medieval
> instruments like lute, fiddle and harp?
>
> Curious? So was Rondellus, the renowned Estonian medieval music band. They took
> 12 Black Sabbath classics and turned them into something totally unheard.
>

> You don?t have to take history lessons to get the feeling. It?s all on the new
> CD Rondellus recorded ? ?Sabbatum?. An amazing collection of Black Sabbath tunes
> played on medieval instruments and sung in Latin language.

Can Altinbay

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Sep 23, 2003, 5:33:09 PM9/23/03
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"nona" <no...@ur.biz> wrote in message news:BB93FC37.8AFB%no...@ur.biz...

>
> The Mass, long a focus of classical music, gets a heavy-rock treatment in
> Ceremony: an Electronic Mass by Pierre Henry performed by Spooky Tooth.
One
> review: "There are some albums out there that completely defy genre
> categorization. But every once in a blue moon, an album comes along that
> manages to completely defy all rational explanation. This would be one of
> those albums." As a fan more of Pierre Henry than Spooky Tooth, I find
this
> fascinating and rewarding listening...
>

I'm the other way around. I found it tough going at first, but now I think
it's a masterpiece.

neoclassical

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Sep 25, 2003, 10:49:52 AM9/25/03
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> >> Metallica did some things with strings, but ultimately, all these
attempts
> >> are doomed to failure imo. Mere attempts to "legitimise" one genre in
terms
> >> of another.

Rock music/heavy metal will never escape what gives it popular status:
constant drumming and cyclic song structure. Although Metallica's "Orion"
was a big step toward escaping this, something unequaled until "Det Som
Engang Var."

neoclassical

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Sep 25, 2003, 10:50:18 AM9/25/03
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If you like music of this form, consider:

Share mp3s of ambient, industrial, synthpop, metal, folk, classical,
romantic and popular music on the neoclassical music hub, using the
DirectConnect file sharing network.

Site:

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/mp3/neoclassical/

Hub:

dchub://neoclassical.no-ip.org:412

Dr.Matt

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Sep 25, 2003, 10:56:33 AM9/25/03
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In article <kgDcb.111633$KW1....@twister.austin.rr.com>,

Were any of these actually attempts to "legitimise" or "escape", or
were they perhaps just attempts to distinguish one sound from another
within a genre?


--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/

Jace Price

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Sep 25, 2003, 1:49:11 PM9/25/03
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For an even stranger transplant, try Dynamite Hack's covers of 'Boys in
the Hood' and 'Gin and Juice'.

You'll never take gangsta rap seriously again *if you ever did in the
first place*

Jace
sonofgod.merseine.nu

Barry Goldwater

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Sep 26, 2003, 10:18:04 AM9/26/03
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nona <no...@ur.biz> wrote in message news:<BB93FC37.8AFB%no...@ur.biz>...

And leave us not forget "Mass in F minor" by the Electric Prunes. I've
never heard it, but I saw it in a record bin.

Barry Goldwater
Play that Funky Music, Cyborg
http://www.geocities.com/stagevitaminic/cyborg.htm

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