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MAES...@aol.com

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I would appreciate any recommendations you have for humorous Baroque
orchestral works. For a concert in October called Kings and Clowns with a
makeshift Lully suite, Farina's La Stravaganza and Bach's 4th orchestral
Suite I need one more piece on the humor side. Animal pictorialism, bagpipe
drones welcome.

Karl Middleman, Artistic Director
Philadelphia Classical Symphony


Viv and Peter Finkelstein

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Any spoof by the fictitious PDQ Bach (created by Peter Schickele),
unless you only want authentic Baroque humor.

Clavichord

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Im Artikel <f2f092fe...@aol.com>, MAES...@aol.com schreibt:

>Animal pictorialism

Definitively the Telemann "Frogs". There is a great recording out by Pickett on
DECCA, together with the Water Music and the Alster Ouverture.
Michael

Michael Zapf (Germany) - clavi...@aol.com

Clavichord

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>Definitively the Telemann "Frogs". There is a great recording out by Pickett
>on
>DECCA, together with the Water Music and the Alster Ouverture.

Come to think of it, Telemann's Alster Ouverture is even funnier. Stimulated by
your question, I put on the CD again, am listening to it right now, and I can't
stop laughing. And there are frogs in it, too, in a movement entitled "Concert
of frogs and crows". THIS IS IT!!!

florinaldo

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Lully's or Charpentier's music for some of Molière's comedies come to mind.
Quite a few "turqueries" in these (Lully's Le bourgeois gentilhomme for
example in these), as well as in many other composers of the period (Fux
come to mind). Some pieces from Rameau's Platée are also in a comical vein
and could be excerpted for a concert. In Vivaldi's Autumn, the first
movement represents a drunk (and when the continuo is done by a bassoon, it
can only increase the effect). Also the drunk scene from Purcell's Faerie
Queen. And imititative music like Telemann's Alster Overture (great new
recording on Harmonia Mundi!). Some of Zelenka's music sounds very much
like a crypto-tango and could become the real thing with just a little push.


--
Florinaldo


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Clavichord

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>Try a new cd released on CPO with ensemble Armonico Tributo. They play
>orchestral
>works by Muffat, and they include ghosts rattling their chains, guns being
>fired
>and so on. Very amusing, and much of it is also good music.

Thanks, I will look out for it.

DanSar

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Jul 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/8/99
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Try a new cd released on CPO with ensemble Armonico Tributo. They play orchestral
works by Muffat, and they include ghosts rattling their chains, guns being fired
and so on. Very amusing, and much of it is also good music.
Daniel

Clavichord wrote:

> >Definitively the Telemann "Frogs". There is a great recording out by Pickett
> >on
> >DECCA, together with the Water Music and the Alster Ouverture.
>
> Come to think of it, Telemann's Alster Ouverture is even funnier. Stimulated by
> your question, I put on the CD again, am listening to it right now, and I can't
> stop laughing. And there are frogs in it, too, in a movement entitled "Concert
> of frogs and crows". THIS IS IT!!!

Peter Sinnaeve

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<MAES...@aol.com> wrote in message news:f2f092fe...@aol.com...

> I would appreciate any recommendations you have for humorous Baroque
> orchestral works. For a concert in October called Kings and Clowns with a
> makeshift Lully suite, Farina's La Stravaganza and Bach's 4th orchestral
> Suite I need one more piece on the humor side. Animal pictorialism,
bagpipe
> drones welcome.

There's also a CD from Musica Antiqua Koeln (Archiv 429 230-2) called
'Scherzi Musicali'. Although I personally think the cover painting by
Arcimboldo (vegetables in a bowl forming a face) is funnier than the music,
it contains excellent performances of pieces called 'Die Pauern-Kirchfahrt'
and 'Sonata jucunda' form Biber, 'Polnische Sackpfeiffen' from Schmelzer,
'Sonata "Imitatione del Cuccu"' from Walther.

Peter Sinnaeve

Sebastian Millies

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Jul 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/9/99
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MAES...@aol.com wrote...

>I would appreciate any recommendations you have for humorous Baroque
>orchestral works. For a concert in October called Kings and Clowns with a
>makeshift Lully suite, Farina's La Stravaganza and Bach's 4th orchestral
>Suite I need one more piece on the humor side. Animal pictorialism, bagpipe
>drones welcome.
>
>Karl Middleman, Artistic Director
>Philadelphia Classical Symphony


In addition to what's been mentioned by others, there are the
Concerts & Concertos comiques by Michel Corrette. There's
a recording on Ades, I think. Very amusing - has parts for vielle a
roue (with drones etc.) Can surely be done on a bagpipe as well.

-- Sebastian Millies


Clavichord

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Im Artikel <7m4ksv$tqv$1...@DEMETER.IDS-Scheer.DE>, "Sebastian Millies"
<s.mi...@ids-scheer.de> schreibt:

>there are the
>Concerts & Concertos comiques by Michel Corrette. There's
>a recording on Ades, I think. Very amusing - has parts for vielle a
>roue (with drones etc.) Can surely be done on a bagpipe as well.

absolutely. The Vivaldi Four Seasons are heartbreaking. This thread is positive
fun, I have never before seen such a collection of (serious) musical joking.
Shall we continue, and throw the original poster into confusion because by now
he does not have a single title, but a full concert series to perform? :-)

florinaldo

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The Muffat recording is another good example; i was listening to it again
today and loved it even more. The chains in the movement "un fantôme" sound
at first as if there was extraneous noises in the studio that were not
edited out, until you realize it is part of the atmosphere and of the
music...

One extraneous noise that was not edited out and which is comical can be
heard on the recording of Rameau's Daphnis et Eglé suite by Capella Savaria
on Naxos; in the first movement, you can hear the most extraordinary "couac"
("un canard" as the French saying goes) that it's a wonder the whole
orchestra did not collapse in giggles.

And similar to the Michel Corette suggestions, Boismortier's Ballets de
village (Naxos again, but no false notes here) are rich with musettes and
hurdy-gurdies, instruments I cannot help but find comical.

--
Florinaldo


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clavi...@aol.com (Clavichord) a écrit :


>>Try a new cd released on CPO with ensemble Armonico Tributo. They play
>>orchestral
>>works by Muffat, and they include ghosts rattling their chains, guns being
>>fired
>>and so on. Very amusing, and much of it is also good music.
>

> Thanks, I will look out for it.

piper

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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One of the funniest and greatest Baroque pieces I've heard in years is
Jan Dismas Zelenka's _Hypochondrie_. I love the "malingering"
dissonances and "ailing" sudden modulations, and the "worried" fast
music. Truly a masterpiece!

Michael

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Christian Panse

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Jul 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/15/99
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There's a collection of six trio sonatas by Vivaldi three of which have
a hurdy-gurdy in it. Those works seemed to me as to be written with the
intention to amuse the listener (which succeeded, in my case ;-} ).

I can remember a recording from the seventies, released by Archiv
Produktion, but I don't think it's available now.

Christian

Paul and Debbie Kahan

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Jul 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/15/99
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Dear Karl,

If my memory serves me correctly, I remember hearing a performance of "A
Renaissance Bestiary" years ago, performed, I think, by the Waverly Consort.

This certainly would have animal pictorialism, though I'm not too certain
about bagpipe drones...

Good Luck!


Debbie Kahan

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Jon-o Addleman

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Jul 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/16/99
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Once upon a Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:44:05 +0200, Christian Panse
<ze...@megatel.DELETETHIS.de> wrote:

Hmm.. just last night, I heard a recording of some vivaldi on CBC that
included a hurdy-gurdy with a guitar, some strings, and winds....

It's the first item on the playlist from july 14th, which you can find
here:
http://www.radio.cbc.ca/cgi-bin/insite/BrowseDir.cgi?Program=THAT+TIME+OF+THE+NIGHT&Month=7&Day=14&Year=1999
--

Jon-o Addleman

David Samuel Barr

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Jul 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/16/99
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Paul and Debbie Kahan wrote:
>
> Dear Karl,
>
> If my memory serves me correctly, I remember hearing a performance of
> "A Renaissance Bestiary" years ago, performed, I think, by the Waverly
> Consort.

Nope, that was the New York Renaissance Band. The "Bestiary" was a sort
of a Renaissance "Carnival of the Animals" using tunes from the
"Glogauer Liederbuch" that bore the names of animal appendages
interspersed with newly written narration. There was a 1982 self-issued
NYRB live concert LP on which this was recorded.

Massimo Campostrini

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Jul 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/16/99
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Regarding baroque humor, don't forget Biber!

The Kremsier Carnival.
The Sonata Rappresentativa.

Especially if performed by Gunar Letzbor and Ars Antiqua Austria
(Andrew Manze is not bad either).

Marcos Saramago

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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> There's a collection of six trio sonatas by Vivaldi three of which have
> a hurdy-gurdy in it. Those works seemed to me as to be written with the
> intention to amuse the listener (which succeeded, in my case ;-} ).
>
> I can remember a recording from the seventies, released by Archiv
> Produktion, but I don't think it's available now.
>

> Christian
>

Hey Christian

That excellent LP was "Il Pastor Fido" by Vivaldi, and if I'm not
mistaken, it's Opus 13, with K. Richter and A. Nicolet, among others. It was
indeed a memorable album. What a coincidence, because I'm looking for a
version of this work. Any suggestions, my dear music loving fellows??

Marcos :-)


Sybrand Bakker

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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I have a feeling this work is not soon to be recorded, as op. 13 'Il Pastor
Fido' isn't considered anymore as written by Vivaldi. Refer to Michael
Talbot Vivaldi, p.101 ff.

Best regards,

Sybrand Bakker

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Allen Garvin

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In article <378D9F55...@megatel.DELETETHIS.de>,
Christian Panse <ze...@megatel.DELETETHIS.de> wrote:

There's a collection of six trio sonatas by Vivaldi three of which
have a hurdy-gurdy in it. Those works seemed to me as to be written
with the intention to amuse the listener (which succeeded, in my
case ;-} ).

Nigel Eaton plays a Vivaldi sonata without accompaniment on Hurdy Gurdy
on his CD "Music of the Hurdy Gurdy". This is the only recording I've
heard of them. The hurdy gurdy may not be the easiest or most pleasant
instrument for the uninitiated to listen to, but I doubt they were intended
to amuse...


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Elaine Charlson - EMEA Network Operations

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In article <37964...@news.tamu-commerce.edu>, eare...@faeryland.tamu-commerce.edu (Allen Garvin) writes:
>In article <378D9F55...@megatel.DELETETHIS.de>,
>Christian Panse <ze...@megatel.DELETETHIS.de> wrote:
>
> There's a collection of six trio sonatas by Vivaldi three of which
> have a hurdy-gurdy in it. Those works seemed to me as to be written
> with the intention to amuse the listener (which succeeded, in my
> case ;-} ).
>
>Nigel Eaton plays a Vivaldi sonata without accompaniment on Hurdy Gurdy
>on his CD "Music of the Hurdy Gurdy". This is the only recording I've
>heard of them. The hurdy gurdy may not be the easiest or most pleasant
>instrument for the uninitiated to listen to, but I doubt they were intended
>to amuse...

The original poster was referring to "Les Saisons Amusantes" by Nicholas
Chédeville and recorded on Linn CKD070 by the Palladian Ensemble.

The CD has these works on it:

Le Printems (Vivaldi, Chédeville)
Sonata XII in A Minor Op.2 No. 2 (Vivaldi)
Les Plaisirs de L'Eté (Vivaldi, Chédeville)
L'Automne (Vivaldi, Chédeville)
Sonata IV in A Major Op. 13 'Il Pastor Fido' (Chédeville)
L'Hiver (Vivaldi, Chédeville)

The movements from the Four Seasons are not in the usual sequences or
arrangements.

Nigel Eaton is the hurdy gurdy player on this recording.

Elaine.

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Alden Hackmann

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eare...@faeryland.tamu-commerce.edu (Allen Garvin) writes:

>In article <378D9F55...@megatel.DELETETHIS.de>,
>Christian Panse <ze...@megatel.DELETETHIS.de> wrote:

> There's a collection of six trio sonatas by Vivaldi three of which
> have a hurdy-gurdy in it. Those works seemed to me as to be written
> with the intention to amuse the listener (which succeeded, in my
> case ;-} ).

>Nigel Eaton plays a Vivaldi sonata without accompaniment on Hurdy Gurdy
>on his CD "Music of the Hurdy Gurdy". This is the only recording I've
>heard of them. The hurdy gurdy may not be the easiest or most pleasant
>instrument for the uninitiated to listen to, but I doubt they were intended
>to amuse...

Tsk, tsk! When well adjusted, the hurdy-gurdy has a really beautiful
sound, especially for baroque music.

Robert Mandel also recorded Vivaldi's "Il Pastor Fido" - see the HG
discography (www.hurdygurdy.com/hg/disc.html). I think Michelle
Fromenteau did as well. The best rendition is by Marcello Bono, who may
have a CD coming out this winter.

Alden Hackmann
hurdy-gurdy fanatic

--
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Web: http://weber.u.washington.edu/~darkstar/
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