Jewel on Dylan's Sexuality
Jack Regan
Jewel's sleep-deprived dream
GUYS who don't want to sleep with Jewel must be gay - just ask her.
The sexy songbird, who played the Performing Arts Center in Newark on
Wednesday, told her audience about a dream she had when she was 16, in
which she played guitar with Bob Dylan and slept with him. Later, in
real life, after she became famous and went on tour with Dylan, she
was summoned to the rocker's dressing room. "I thought, 'My dream is
coming true, not only am I playing with Bob Dylan, I'm going to sleep
with him.' " But much to her disappointment, he didn't make a pass at
her. "Obviously Bob Dylan is gay if he's not interested in me," Jewel
cracked to the crowd. "I mean, look at me." She showed off her skimpy
tank top and micro-miniskirt. "Who would have guessed that Dylan is a
fag? That's going to get me in trouble. It's going to be in all the
papers tomorrow." Just in the only paper that matters, Jewel.
Outfidel
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Bendikjoe
while talking to her, let alone while fucking her.
-Joe
Hear me,
http://www.mp3.com/joebendik
don freeman
> cracked to the crowd. "I mean, look at me." She showed off her skimpy
> tank top and micro-miniskirt.
I think Bob sort of took a fatherly interest in Jewel, rather than
wanting to have sexual relations with her.
Eric
>From: jre...@mindspring.com (Jack Regan)
>Date: 11/15/2002 8:48 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <5427b1bb.02111...@posting.google.com>
Maybe that's why Dylan can't make the George Harrison tribute-- he's got to
track Jewel down.
sw
Ken Wilson
Maybe he just couldn't get past her poetry. ;-)
Ken
Juanita Webb
Especially if you haven't laughed in awhile. I usually try to be polite
about someone "expressing their inner selves" but hey...who knew Jewel was
truly a comedian...she has now confirmed it with this last bit of stuff! I
thought she was serious there for awhile.
KReilly
>She showed off her skimpy
>tank top and micro-miniskirt. "Who would have guessed that Dylan is a
>fag? That's going to get me in trouble.
I find the use of the "f" word to be distasteful and offensive. I'm surprised
because she should know better. Even if it was said jokingly, it was a poor
word choice.
Vicstanley
>From: don freeman dfr...@shaw.ca
>Date: 11/15/2002 8:45 AM Central Standard Time
Or perhaps he was concerned about that snaggle tooth of hers possibly damaging
his testicles.
Tony Pignataro
talking to Howard Stern backstage on someone's show. Maybe Letterman. James
Carville who was also a guest walked by and saw them talking. Obviously he
looked to long for Jewel who yelled at him, "HAVEN'T YOU SEEN A WOMAN WITH
BIG BREASTS BEFORE?!??!"
No one yells at James Carville and maintains my respect.
Tony P.
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Debra Lind
my home town last summer told me she said that she had a dream that she
played with him, and he made a pass at her. When she met him and played
with him he didn't make the pass. She must tell that story at every show
she does.
Weaselywally
>damaging
>his testicles.
Snaggletooth!! Wahahahahahahah!!!!
JP
Outfidel
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> >Or perhaps he was concerned about that snaggle tooth of hers possibly
> >damaging his testicles.
>
> Snaggletooth!! Wahahahahahahah!!!!
Careful, if you laugh at Jewel's snaggletooth, she might call you gay too
(not that there's anything wrong with that...)
Craig Danuloff
used? I seem to have misplaced mine. I for one will not listen to Ms.
Jewel again until she calls Bob and tells him that she really meant to
call him a homosexual. I'm sure they'll both feel a lot better.
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KReilly
>used? I seem to have misplaced mine.
You might take a look up your ass, whitey. It's basic human decency to not
refer to minority groups with terms they deem hateful. I simply said I found it
distasteful and offensive I didn't say she should not use it. It's her
prerogative to use words others deem offensive.
Rufus Leaking
>> cracked
no, he's just plain smart not to get involved with space cadets
Dave
"Hid in the reeds are eyes that peek,
voices I don't understand.
Flamingos fly endlessly,
To the silent sky"
Ken Wilson
> > I find the use of the "f" word to be distasteful and offensive. I'm
>surprised because she should know better. Even if it was said jokingly, it
>was a poor word choice. <<
Sounds to me like she was only half joking, like she got her feelings -- or
her ego, whatever you want to call it -- a bit hurt and was reaching for an
insult to make herself feel better. Who knows if when she sees a gay man she
thinks "fag" or "gay," but I'll guess the latter. Old prejudice dies hard.
Ken
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Your Pal Brian
> Have you guys read some of that poetry of hers? If you haven't you must.
> Especially if you haven't laughed in awhile. I usually try to be polite
> about someone "expressing their inner selves" but hey...
Would you be polite about this?
http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/index.shtml
Brian
Footy
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>"I thought, 'My dream is coming true, not only am I playing with Bob Dylan,
I'm going to sleep with him.' " But much to her disappointment, he didn't
make a pass at her.
I dreamed I slept with Jewel last night
Alive as you & me
Wearing see-through PJs
In utmost ecstasy
With a blanket covering her boobs
And her hair of solid gold
Snoring from her silly rhymes
What a wonder to behold
"Arise, arise, you little cow"
I spoke without restraint,
"I'll let you be my princess queen
If I can be your saint"
But she just rolled onto her side
And gave the bed a shimmy
Inside the chorus of her snorus
I heard her mumble "Zimmy"
I dreamed I slept with Jewel last night
Alive with funny teeth
I dreamed she was on top of me
(Or was it underneath?)
Oh, I awoke in anger
So alone and full of dread
Then I laid back against the pillow
And dreamed of J-Lo instead
A1pump
>refer to minority groups with terms they deem hateful.
Change minority groups to people and you would still be correct.
Tumulty
dopey thoughts anyhow?
Hasn't she any concept of what germs bring?
T.
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PGPearson1954
Not to get off on a tangent here, but I've always thought Arlo's use of the
word "faggots" in the original "Alice's Restaurant Massacree" was on of the
most unfortunate mistakes in modern recordings.
Of course, Arlo has corrected this since, yet that moment is left forever.
Arlo is one of the more sensible and sensitive artists we have----Yet, I still
cringe when I hear that line.
Paul Pearson
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PGPearson1954
>Alive as you & me
I'm gonna have that tune running around my head all day!!
Paul Pearson
devorahmuse
luv the muse
does it have to come to this?
devorahmuse
but people like
LUCINDA WILLIAMS..
MAKES ME FEELMORE SEXUAL
PURE WITH A SEXUAL PRESENCE
GODDESS I KNOW THIS
BE REAL
LUV THE MUSE
KReilly
>It's all subjective la.....
Subjectivity is inescapable but we still manage to navigate the highways.
Subjectivity becomes slippery when it's limited to individuals. As long as we
are dealing with intersubjective, community sensitivities, then pejorative
terms will be clear enough.
KReilly
>oh manwho fucking cares
>does it have to come to this?
God forbid we try to be sensitive and refrain from pejorative slurs. The muse
should have told you that.
A1pump
Don't forget, this was pre Stonewall. As you pointed out, with a raised
consciousness, Arlo changed this. He always was and probably always will be one
of our most sensible and sensitive artists. I'm looking foward to seeing him
and Pete Seeger honoring what would have been Woody's 90th birthaday in a
couple of weeks.
PGPearson1954
>time
Arlos's awareness is keener than most.
In late 1995 when he recorded "The Massacree Revisted" (released in '96), the
lines went like this = "Imagine one person, I mean even today, walking in
singing Alice's Restaurant. Walking out. They're gonna say "Hey that guy's
thirty years too late. Get that guy out of here....Imagine two of them walking
in hand in hand singing in harmony. I don't care what the president says.
Unfortunetly, to a lot of people, that's still a problem...."
Arlo has done much to spread AIDS awareness and his organization continues to
educate and help.
Again, just a dated and UNFORTUNATE use of words back when that are forever
etched in time.
>I'm looking foward to seeing him
>and Pete Seeger honoring what would have been Woody's 90th birthaday in a
>couple of weeks.
One should never miss an opportuinity to see Arlo. Pete's appearances's are
getting rarer these days---Should be a great experience.
Paul Pearson
Will Dockery
could have
been any number of thing:
1)tired
2) too much whiskey and/or dope
3)shy
4)unselfconfident that night
5)just finished balling groupies
6)old... well it happens...
7)not attracted to her for many reasons
8)attracted to her but she was too young for him
9)turned off by her crassness
10) waiting for her to give him a sign
11)a gentleman
12)Bob Dylan
and the list could go on and on and on... me, I'd a banged her, or at
least muff dived her til she came... I'm a poet, I know it... hope I
don't blow it.
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> > "Jack Regan" <jre...@mindspring.com> quoted:
> > >"I thought, 'My dream is coming true, not only am I playing with Bob
> Dylan,
> > I'm going to sleep with him.' " But much to her disappointment, he
didn't
> > make a pass at her.
> >
> > I dreamed I slept with Jewel last night
> > Alive as you & me
<great song parody snipped>
> >
> Brilliant!
>
Yup, I agree :-)
H.
Bendikjoe
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He could have been turned off by her poetry.
Hear me,
http://www.mp3.com/joebendik
Who Me
>>refer to minority groups with terms they deem hateful.
>
>Change minority groups to people and you would still be correct.
ONLY then would it be correct.
Bill
"There were four million people in the Colonies and we had Jefferson and
Franklin. Now we have over 200 million and the two top guys are Clinton and
Dole. What can you draw from this? Darwin was wrong!"
Mort Sahl
Who Me
in YOUR opinion.
Tumulty
<< He could have been turned off by her poetry. >>
Or Will's.
Will Dockery
http://www.angelfire.com/al2/queenjane/index2.html ) when he played
here.
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Eric
>Date: 11/16/2002 11:55 AM Eastern Standard Time
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Kreilly, you need to lighten up with your gestapo politcal correctness. I
know someone who is gay and the word fag doesn't bother him at all. In the
future it will probably be appropriated by the gay community in the same way
they've taken the word queer, a word used formerly for putdowns, and made it
their own and now you study Queer Theory in literary studies. Who really cares
what words people use if they have no chance of influencing the consciousness
of people in a negative way that may lead to harm on a physical level
(beatings, discrimination, etc.). Jewel doesn't have that power.
I don't know what your background is regarding sex, ethnicity, whatever
else you want to divide it up into, but do you call people of European descent
in the USA European Americans or do you call them white? If you call them white
then I'm offended by you and your primitive, racist, intolerant ways of
thinking. I'm offended to be called white and not European American. Why does
everyone else get to change their classification from a color to an ethnic
background. I just can't go on being considered white anymore and you better
heed my wishes or you're racist or intolerant.
My point is, relax a bit and leave your continual barrage of academic
discourses at the university every now and then.Your response to the one poster
who asked what words were okay to use by telling him to look up his ass belies
your holier than thou, above all these crass, ignorant people, political
correctness front.
Of course, I mean this with all due respect. :-)
Will Dockery
> NY Post Page 6 11/15/02
>
> Jewel's sleep-deprived dream
> GUYS who don't want to sleep with Jewel must be gay - just ask her.
> The sexy songbird, who played the Performing Arts Center in Newark on
> Wednesday, told her audience about a dream she had when she was 16, in
> which she played guitar with Bob Dylan and slept with him. Later, in
> real life, after she became famous and went on tour with Dylan, she
> was summoned to the rocker's dressing room. "I thought, 'My dream is
> with him.' " But much to her disappointment, he didn't make a pass at
> cracked to the crowd. "I mean, look at me." She showed off her skimpy
> tank top and micro-miniskirt. "Who would have guessed that Dylan is a
> fag? That's going to get me in trouble. It's going to be in all the
> papers tomorrow." Just in the only paper that matters, Jewel.
Wow, I looked up Jewel, after reading the other post that mentioned her, and found this. I had just about forgotten this.
nate
- nate
Will Dockery
But I also actually had a few good points to make on the whole Jewel and Dylan incident:
On Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 9:23:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> She sure shows a pitiful lack of understanding of the male mind. He
> could have
> been any number of thing:
> 1) tired
> 2) too much whiskey and/or dope
> 3) shy
> 4) unselfconfident that night
> 5) just finished balling groupies
> 6) old... well it happens...
> 8) attracted to her but she was too young for him
> 9) turned off by her crassness
> 11) a gentleman
> and the list could go on and on and on... me, I'd a banged her, or at
> least muff dived her til she came... I'm a poet, I know it... hope I
> don't blow it.
>
> > the does this well and still I love her music ALOT
> > but people like
> > LUCINDA WILLIAMS..
> > MAKES ME FEELMORE SEXUAL
> >
> > PURE WITH A SEXUAL PRESENCE
> > GODDESS I KNOW THIS
> >
> > BE REAL
> > LUV THE MUSE
Love it or hate it, I did/do have my particular and long-thought-out views, opinions and theories on the art of Bob Dylan.
:)