Dylan and Bukowski (and Mette Fugl)

[Lars Doevling Andersen]

The recent death of Charles Bukowski made my newspaper ("Information")
print a piece by Mette Fugl (yes, of interview fame) about him, with
Bob's name in it.

She recalls visiting Bukowski ("Hank") and his wife Linda, and writes, in
my translation from Danish:

"... Linda finds a letter from Bob Dylan. He would like to pay a visit.
But Hank can't be bothered. He'll rather go to the horse-race or sit in
the bog reading the tabloid press' front page sensations about all the
babies that are born with wooden legs nowadays. He says. "I can't be
bothered at all to devote my time to all the feeble-minded poets who never
had a nine-to-five job. They are too well-combed and have too clean finger
nails. They don't know what brutality is. Like a place of work with lots of
small men, pissing on each other to compensate for their own inadequacy. You
cannot describe the brutality by sponging on the sufferings of others."

Linda and I try to talk him into receiving Dylan after all. In vain. ..."

That's all.

Lars Andersen

[Will Dockery]

Well, so Bob Dylan attempted to pay Bukowski a visit at some point, but Buk couldn't be bothered.

[M. Rick]

On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 10:51:32 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
>Well, so Bob Dylan attempted to pay Bukowski a visit at some point, but Buk couldn't be bothered.

Shunning is a high art.

[stephanpi...@gmail.com]

these two young ones
in the court across from me
they play Bob Dylan
all day and all night
on their stereo

they turn that stereo
as high as it can go
and it's a very good
stereo

but right now
it's Bob Dylan
Bob Dylan Bob
Dylan all the
way.


the whole neighborhood
gets Bob Dylan free

and I get him freest of all
because I live in the court
across the way

I get Dylan when I shit
I get Dylan when I fuck
and just before I try to sleep

sometimes I see them
outside on the sidewalk
quite young and neat
going out for food and
toilet paper

they are one of the loveliest
couples in the
neighborhood.
-- Charles Bukowski, 1976. Bob Dylan. Coldspring Journal # 10

Bukowski held a specific disdain for the work of Bob Dylan: "He’s only written one good poem. But even that’s not very good. Something about trees and all that […] it dips off at the end [his] words are common, but they’re also very weak […] there’s a touch of melodrama that doesn’t quite ring true." Although he uses the word “poem,” Bukowski is probably making reference to Dylan’s lyrics rather than to the rambling free-association verse contained in Tarantula, the singer’s collection of prose and poetry. It is not surprising that Dylan’s lyrics were unpalatable to the “dirty realist” poet of the street. “Mr Tambourine Man,” for example, is essentially a non-linear stream of consciousness narrative open to multiple interpretations. Where artists such as Dylan go wrong, suggests Bukowski, is “ spend[ing] so much time talking about living that they don’t have time to live.” In a letter to fellow poet Al Purdy, Bukowski claimed that when he listens to classical music he feels “Dylan melting like a candle.”
-- Steve Brie, 2012. Watching the wall's dance: Charles Bukowski's musical landscape. Magazine Americana January www.AmericanPopularCulture.com
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STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher
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THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT

[stephanpi...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 6:05:45 PM UTC-7, M. Rick wrote:

> Shunning is a high art.

then try not looking into a mirror...you remain a petulant fraud

[M. Rick]

On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 6:39:01 PM UTC-7, stephanpi...@gmail.com wrote:
>then try not looking into a mirror...

I have fewer wrinkles than Dylan. With all that money he could have bought a good moisturizer.

[stephanpi...@gmail.com]

Even a barbaric frontal lobotomy did not rectify your intelligence deficiency before puberty.

[Will Dockery]

"M. Rick" wrote in message
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> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>Well, so Bob Dylan attempted to pay Bukowski a visit at some point, but
>>Buk couldn't be bothered.
>
> Shunning is a high art.

Buk was a lover of classical music, folk and rock didn't interest him much.

[Will Dockery]

Stephan Pickering wrote in message
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Wow, great find, Stephan.

:)

[Will Dockery]

A small part of a great piece on Jack Kerouac:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/oct/07/on-the-road-mark-ellen

"...The key torch-bearer is Bob Dylan. "On the Road had been like a bible
for me," he said in his memoir Chronicles: Volume One. "I loved the
breathless, dynamic bop poetry phrases that flowed from Jack's pen," and the
way the author was magnetically drawn to 'the mad people – the ones who were
mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the
same time, the ones who never yawn. And I felt like I fit right into that
bunch.' The cast of grotesques in Dylan's Desolation Row is all the verve
and lunacy of On the Road compressed into 11 minutes 21 seconds."

And in turn led a million others of us roaring down that road.

[Will Dockery]

M. Rick wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 6:39:01 PM UTC-7, stephanpi...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> >then try not looking into a mirror...
>
> I have fewer wrinkles than Dylan. With all that money he could have
> bought a good moisturizer.

Are you the same age as Dylan, though?

[Will Dockery]

I'm reading the paperback collection of Bukowski's love poetry called "On
Love", what a powerful and amazing writer he was... down and on the street
level master of words.

[Will Dockery]

Stephan Pickering wrote in message

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> On M. Rick wrote:
>
>> Shunning is a high art.
>
> then try not looking into a mirror...you remain a petulant fraud

One of so many...

[Will Dockery]

"M. Rick" wrote in message
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This has to be a good story... anyone have details?

[Will Dockery]

Found in my Drafts file, may already be in the thread...

[Grave Digger]

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Reading Bukowski turned me on to Mahler...

[General Zod]

On Monday, March 21, 1994 at 8:16:57 AM UTC-5, Lars Doevling Andersen wrote:

Interesting......

[Will Dockery]

"Grave Digger" wrote in message
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Excellent, any favorites I might go for on YouTube?

[Grave Digger]

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>
> Reading Bukowski turned me on to Mahler...
>
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>
> Excellent, any favorites I might go for on YouTube?

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I would go with Mahler's fifth conducted by Bernstein.
Bernstein knew Mahler's work very well.

Leonard Bernstein "Symphony No 5" Mahler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EJn43FEmjo

[Grave Digger]

> > Excellent, any favorites I might go for on YouTube?
>
> =====
> I would go with Mahler's fifth conducted by Bernstein.
> Bernstein knew Mahler's work very well.
>
> Leonard Bernstein "Symphony No 5" Mahler
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EJn43FEmjo

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Will...Google a bio on Mahler..He was a truly troubled genius..I guess they all are. He actually has sessions with Sigmund Freud..and you know how that goes.

Liner notes are the reason why I love albums and CD's..You can read the liner notes as you enjoy the music.

Renumber the double albums? I never heard of anyone rolling a joint on an MP3