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GMW28IF

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Sep 14, 2003, 2:45:20 PM9/14/03
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okay guys....3 things you love about self portrait......
i love this album for what it is, it'll be fun to hear your take
on what you like about it.

-Darren

lawrence morrissey

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Sep 14, 2003, 2:51:24 PM9/14/03
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all the tired horse ..in the sun little sadie blue moon .. does
some one monitor this group???


John Howells

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gmw...@aol.com (GMW28IF) writes:

1. I love the fact that I'm not forced to have to listen to it.

I can't think of anything else...

--

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billyi

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Sep 14, 2003, 3:33:01 PM9/14/03
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All the Tired Horses, The Boxer and Early Morning Rain
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Dan Luke

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Sep 14, 2003, 4:07:46 PM9/14/03
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1. I don't own it.
2. I don't know anyone who owns it.
3. The last time I heard it was 30 year ago.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM


Gojira1971

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Sep 14, 2003, 4:28:19 PM9/14/03
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cant think of anything

billyi

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Sep 14, 2003, 4:41:48 PM9/14/03
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>
> 1. I don't own it.
fair enough

> 2. I don't know anyone who owns it.
harsh

> 3. The last time I heard it was 30 year ago.
harsh

I think it stands up better now than it did when it was released...since
there have been more than two handfuls of gems since the release of
SELF-PORTRAIT, one can take it for what it is, without the worry that Dylan
is all washed up. It's not my favorite...not by a longshot...but it does
make for enjoyable front porch music on a warm evening.

harry haller

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Sep 14, 2003, 5:40:59 PM9/14/03
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"lawrence morrissey" <lmorr...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<MM29b.119934$Sq.23...@twister.nyc.rr.com>...

> all the tired horse ..in the sun little sadie blue moon .. does
> some one monitor this group???

There ought to be a convention for the admirers of Self
Portrait,including myself and other selves.Three things to love about
Self Portrait-1.Living the Blues.2.the Band playing a bit uninspired
or tired?3. In the early morning rain.Bob Dylan & many like
Lightfoot.of course,that cover.and those Nashville Cats.that's over
3.Also,it isn't "Street Legal",which will have a much larger
convention,on the street they know your name,even if they don't like
you.HH

billyi

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Sep 14, 2003, 7:16:49 PM9/14/03
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The tracks with The Band are really the only thing about SELF-PORTRAIT that
I cannot stand.
Guess it goes to show how mileage will vary from listener to listener...

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Bob Gill

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Sep 14, 2003, 9:44:09 PM9/14/03
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GMW28IF wrote:

I don't love three things about it, but I like eight songs:

Alberta (either version; they sound almost the same to my ears)
Early Mornin' Rain
Living the Blues
Coper Kettle
The Mighty Quinn
Take a Message to Mary
Minstrel Boy
She Belongs to Me
Wigwam

To get this up to 12 songs, suitable for release as a single album,
I'd add A Fool Such as I, Can't Help Falling in Love and Ballad of Ira
Hayes from the Dylan album, though I'm not sure they were recorded
during the Self Portrait sessions.
If the album had been released in this form, I'd listen to it now and
then and enjoy it.

-- Bob G.

Hurricane

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Sep 14, 2003, 9:45:49 PM9/14/03
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Got to love the boxer.

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 19:33:01 GMT, "billyi" <billy...@prodigy.net>
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Bkindmoore

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Sep 14, 2003, 11:00:11 PM9/14/03
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Three things I love about Self Portrait
1. Dylan's voice on this album
2. His delivery of LARS
3. Song selection

Three songs I particularly enjoy
1. Let It Be Me
2. Blue Moon
3. Early Mornin' Rain


Alan Fraser

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Sep 15, 2003, 2:34:21 AM9/15/03
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:44:09 -0400, Bob Gill <bob...@erols.com>
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I have to say that Copper Kettle is worth the price of the album
alone, it's a wonderful performance.

And you have to admire Bob's cheek for releasing a version of LARS in
which he forgot the words!

A Fool Such As I is indeed a Self Portrait out-take - Ira Hayes and
Can't Help Falling In Love are from New Morning.

Alan

Josh Lobley

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Sep 15, 2003, 4:53:36 AM9/15/03
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1.the emotion in the record
2.nashville band
3.everything about it

i love wigwam, let it be me, copper kettle, hell i love every song. am i
strange?

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Tricia J

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Sep 15, 2003, 11:04:10 AM9/15/03
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:53:36 +1000, "Josh Lobley"
<j_lo...@austarnet.com.au> wrote:

>1.the emotion in the record
>2.nashville band
>3.everything about it
>
>i love wigwam, let it be me, copper kettle, hell i love every song. am i
>strange?

possibly, but you have good taste...

John Howells

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Sep 15, 2003, 12:55:21 PM9/15/03
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"Josh Lobley" <j_lo...@austarnet.com.au> writes:

<1.the emotion in the record
<2.nashville band
<3.everything about it

<i love wigwam, let it be me, copper kettle, hell i love every song. am i
<strange?

Not at all! And if you really like Self Portrait, I also have some
Andy Williams and Perry Como albums that you might enjoy too :)

drifter

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"Josh Lobley" <j_lo...@austarnet.com.au> wrote in message news:<bk3tiq$8ed$1...@austar-news.austar.net.au>...

1. for being the right dylan cd/lp to play all night until the break
of day & getting slowly drunk with your best friend & loving every
minute of it & singing along to it

2. for BLUE MOON

3. for LIVIN THE BLUES

horsed

GW

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Sep 15, 2003, 2:41:54 PM9/15/03
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Amen. The Band tracks were the only thing remotely rock'n'roll on
Self-Portrait, and therefore easily my favorites, although I'll admit a
weakness for Living the Blues, a respectable re-casting of "Be Your Baby
Tonight".

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harry haller

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Sep 15, 2003, 3:08:55 PM9/15/03
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bkind...@aol.com (Bkindmoore) wrote in message news:<20030914230011...@mb-m02.aol.com>...

1-walkin the floor over you,2-it hurts me too and 3-take me as i am
or let me go,and a 4th-i bet T. thinks Street Legal is better(You
don't need know what he knows to struggle in English lit)HH-that 4th
gives me the all-over fidgets,which he'll enjoy.All merry now.HH

Zuke

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Sep 15, 2003, 3:48:21 PM9/15/03
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In article <Z9m9b.3586$vn.1...@sea-read.news.verio.net>,

John Howells <how...@punkhart.com> wrote:
>"Josh Lobley" <j_lo...@austarnet.com.au> writes:
>
><1.the emotion in the record
><2.nashville band
><3.everything about it
>
><i love wigwam, let it be me, copper kettle, hell i love every song. am i
><strange?
>
>Not at all! And if you really like Self Portrait, I also have some
>Andy Williams and Perry Como albums that you might enjoy too :)

Maybe if Andy's ex-wife Claudine Longet had sung the songs the speed
of the music might have worked. I have to admit to being a closet
Longet fan.

--
You are in control until you are out of control.


Dan Luke

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Sep 15, 2003, 7:33:05 PM9/15/03
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"Alan Fraser" wrote:
> And you have to admire Bob's cheek for releasing a version of LARS
in
> which he forgot the words!

I remember being pissed off.

I was a dirt poor college student, and the price of that album made me
miss a good meal. It seemed arrogant and careless to me that Dylan
would release such junk. I sold my copy and bought a cheeseburger.

PGPearson1954

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Sep 15, 2003, 11:04:02 PM9/15/03
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>From: Alan Fraser alan....@boltblue.com

>And you have to admire Bob's cheek for releasing a version of LARS in
>which he forgot the words!

Alan:

He released an entire album of vocals trip overs---DYLAN AND THE DEAD. I think
"Joey" may have made it totally unscathed. ;)

Paul Pearson

PGPearson1954

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Sep 15, 2003, 11:20:26 PM9/15/03
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>From: John Howells how...@punkhart.com

> I also have some
>Andy Williams

The man who inspired Bob to trot out his own live version of "MOON RIVER" in
the early '90s? The man who is the late '50s recorded the seminal TO YOU
SWEETHEART, ALOHA for the pre-Columbia Cadence label and served as the divine
inspiration for Elvis' own BLUE HAWAII opus? The man who forced MOR into bed
with Christmas tunes? The man who built a shrine in Branston (spelling?), MO?
The man who's own version of "Exodus" served as a blueprint for Bob Dylan's
"AATW" intro some forty years later? The man who put Donnie and his brothers
into your living room for years?

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WOULD YOU PLEASE WELCOME FORMER COLUMBIA RECORDING
ARTIST....ANDY WILLIAMS.

Paul Pearson


sles...@verizon.net

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Sep 16, 2003, 11:31:24 PM9/16/03
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10. the discounted price
9. you don't have to concentrate on the lyrics
8. when my friends say it sucks i don't have to argue
7. i finally agree w/ Griel Marcus about something
6. i never have to hear it on the radio
5. i don't have to replace my vinyl copy
4. at least i don't love everything dylan has ever done
3. i understand a joke when i hear it
2. wiliiam shatner will never cover one of the cuts
1. the end

steve

Tricia J

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Sep 17, 2003, 2:40:17 AM9/17/03
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I don't beleeeeve you!

Jim (Guitar Centre Records)

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Sep 17, 2003, 8:44:05 AM9/17/03
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Three things I hate about 'Dylan and The Dead'.

1. The Grateful Dead
2. The Grateful Dead
3. The Grateful Dead

Jim

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soybomb

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Sep 17, 2003, 10:10:23 AM9/17/03
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I love the fact that It's one of the few Dylan discs I don't own.

John Howells

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Sep 17, 2003, 1:04:21 PM9/17/03
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tric...@aardvark.net.au (Tricia J) writes:

No, it's true. You really COULD buy a cheeseburger for about 25 cents
in those days.

harry haller

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Sep 17, 2003, 2:54:06 PM9/17/03
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so much-1.Blue Moon,which dates loved(who couldn't "get" 61 0r
BoB)and that rarity doesn't disqualify the woman.2.I liked Bob singing
"the Boxer' twice cause Simon wasn't interfering.3.It hurts
me,too.few have talked aboutthis one.HH

bobblessed

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Sep 17, 2003, 6:14:53 PM9/17/03
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hhha...@hotmail.com (harry haller) wrote in message news:<fb09b27d.03091...@posting.google.com>...

1.Bob's fantastic covers of Copper Kettle and "Take a Message to M."
2.Bob's ego showing in his cover self portrait
3.The LP's inside jacket "Bob at Woodstock and recording photos"
and the long list of the great talent that "appeared" on the album.
bobblessed

maxenglish

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Sep 17, 2003, 7:04:58 PM9/17/03
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1. The relaxed nature and countrified (countri-fried) post-burnout
mood of the whole endeavor - (Wasn't this patched together from
live/studio outtakes to fulfill his intitial LP contract with
Columbia? The fact that it's a double LP and with 2 versions of
Little Sadie should be evidence enough. Maybe Dylan should have
called it 'Goodbye Albert'.)

2. I like how in a few ads or pictures, Dylan is posing in front of a
farm (albeit on the side of a road) and trying to appear as the proud
owner of this farm, no doubt to throw off people looking for his house
in Woodstock, NY.

3. I like the fact that many (the majority?) of Dylan fans hate this
album... I guess they've forgotten more than they'll ever know...
about Bob... This album is loaded with gems and is great if sequenced
with other songs from this period from 'Dylan' and Nashville Skyline.

Tricia J

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Sep 18, 2003, 11:31:53 AM9/18/03
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On 17 Sep 2003 11:54:06 -0700, hhha...@hotmail.com (harry haller)
wrote:


> so much-1.Blue Moon,which dates loved(who couldn't "get" 61 0r
>BoB)and that rarity doesn't disqualify the woman.2.I liked Bob singing
>"the Boxer' twice cause Simon wasn't interfering.3.It hurts
>me,too.few have talked aboutthis one.HH

I just listened to this album the other day and "It Hurts Me Too" is
great.


harry haller

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gdet...@pulsedms.com (soybomb) wrote in message news:<2f5f4401.03091...@posting.google.com>...

> I love the fact that It's one of the few Dylan discs I don't own.

10 ?-ok,1.The Band,2.a better
"blue moon "than Andy Williams version,3.it gave some session guys a
little slack(like we're not making a "real" record"),4.no backward
masking?5.Columbia has no conscience,we found out.6.where were the
advisors:he acted deciseively on on,6.the willingness to not be taken
seriousy ever again (by some people),7,no graduate studentpapers -
???.9.Donovan couldn't do worse,,10,spent some family time,probably
the real motivation.H

Alan Fraser

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Sep 22, 2003, 2:24:35 AM9/22/03
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:55:21 GMT, John Howells <how...@punkhart.com>
wrote:

>"Josh Lobley" <j_lo...@austarnet.com.au> writes:
>
><1.the emotion in the record
><2.nashville band
><3.everything about it
>
><i love wigwam, let it be me, copper kettle, hell i love every song. am i
><strange?
>
>Not at all! And if you really like Self Portrait, I also have some
>Andy Williams and Perry Como albums that you might enjoy too :)

Don't knock it! In the right setting, those guys do the business.....
:-))

Alan

Groucho

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Sep 22, 2003, 8:30:32 AM9/22/03
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How about this for SP fans?

http://www.weloveselfportrait.mockfrog.com.au/

For me, 'Take a Message To Mary, and Days of '49

cheers

Groucho

webm...@REMOVENOSPAMmockfrog.com.au

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lara lara

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Sep 23, 2003, 12:29:17 PM9/23/03
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engli...@rocketmail.com (maxenglish) wrote in message news:<e0fa0c37.03091...@posting.google.com>...

it is fun hearing Nashville Cats having a good time,not expecting
this to be more than warm ups.second,Bob has nothing to prove.He's
done Basement Tapes,JWH and the horrible Nashville Skyline(because it
was to be a record),Harding.And he knows it's better to hold back
sometimes.He does ok at that.And he gets to make people really
angry,like the liberal press,Rolling Stone,forced to throw mudor worse
at an immortal.Accomplished.hi everbody.The conservative establishment
didn't notice,they had lots to be angry about,like say,George
McGovern.My folks tell me this and about a Thompson guy.Polics is an
instrument of the devil,didn't your guy say about INFIDELS times.?lara

Zuke

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Sep 23, 2003, 1:29:31 PM9/23/03
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, lara lara wrote:

> engli...@rocketmail.com (maxenglish) wrote in message news:<e0fa0c37.03091...@posting.google.com>...
> > 1. The relaxed nature and countrified (countri-fried) post-burnout
> > mood of the whole endeavor - (Wasn't this patched together from
> > live/studio outtakes to fulfill his intitial LP contract with
>

> it is fun hearing Nashville Cats having a good time,not expecting
> this to be more than warm ups.second,Bob has nothing to prove.He's

Good news. There are literally thousands of uninspired insipid country
music albums out there. Fans of Self Portrait would be wise to seek
them out.

> done Basement Tapes,JWH and the horrible Nashville Skyline(because it
> was to be a record),Harding.And he knows it's better to hold back
> sometimes.He does ok at that.And he gets to make people really
> angry,like the liberal press,Rolling Stone,forced to throw mudor worse

I guess you are agreeing with the "it sucks because Bob wanted it to suck"
school of thought. For whatever reason he did it, he accomplished it
in my book.

matusch1589

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Sep 26, 2003, 8:38:03 PM9/26/03
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I have trouble believing any real Dylan fan could put down Nashville Skyline
or Self-Portrait. Both are rollicking spins, with all guards down. And in
light of recent events - Johnny's death - bobody's even ALLOWED to say they
didn't love the NS recording of "Girl of the North Country!"

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mariav

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tric...@aardvark.net.au (Tricia J) wrote in message news:<3f69d1d3...@news.aardvark.net.au>...

This morning "All the Tired Horses"sounded like a call to sensing wonder.

mariav

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tric...@aardvark.net.au (Tricia J) wrote in message news:<3f69d1d3...@news.aardvark.net.au>...

I overlooked that the desired response was for three(I overlook
many,many things).The two songs or is it three I enjoy with The Band
are my other things to love,about the album.
The Band isn't at their best,though.Agreed.

beppe

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Sep 27, 2003, 1:49:24 PM9/27/03
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1. Lars dragging but wonderfully phrased
2. the *horses* trick
3. the Tree picture

beppe

yo

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Sep 30, 2003, 3:43:41 PM9/30/03
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1. The painting on the cover
2. The fact that nobody else likes it (Ibid somewhere/someone else)
3. I am pretty sure this is what BoB sounds like when he sings "Blue Moon"
in the shower.

-mae


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