Real life v. online
J Buck
barely know face-to-face.
Anyone else?
The Hysterical Bride
Funny you should ask, as we were just talking about this, and I asked
you to start a thread about it. (har har har)
J Buck and I have created a coalition to save RMD.
This is our first effort.
So, back to the question at hand, I have to say, I am a completely
different person online than I am in person.
I would NEVER, can I emphasize this enough, NEVER say some of the
things I do in this group, and online, that I would in person.
As I mentioned the other day, I have abandoned all decorum in exchange
for cheap laughs.
The sky burst open wide, and there are, it seems, no limits.
Things that I would never think are funny in "real life," CRACK ME THE
F_U_C_K UP LIKE ANGELINA with the head of the hyena, because it's SO
WRONG. It's so NOT ME. I don't even think they are funny, on their
own. I think of POSTING THEM ON THE COMPUTER, and I start laughing
like crazy.
It's the opposite of funny, it's totally insane, it's crude, it's
degrading, it's ridiculous, my rooftop has been demolished, and I am
burning burning burning like a wild fire in the night.
Now, is this a good thing? Is it WRONG?
Well, I'm still standing, and I have some friends.
Should I try and CHANGE?
Well, honestly...
I miss our group.
I miss the posters, and the threads, EVEN THOUGH, yes, even though I
barely read them and don't find them all that interesting. (some of
the time)
But I miss you guys out there, if you are still there.
I consider you my friends, and I like you, and I respect you, and I,
yes, look up to you.
Was it worth it? (hell yes) (maybe not)
Is it too late? (let's hope not.)
I mean, honestly, I am so sick and tired of being crazy.
But it's almost like I have lost myself.
But when did I ever have myself? The times have been few and far
between.
What's real?
Who am I?
Can I ever have a relationship?
Can I get people to like me? (why do I want to do that?)
Real life is HARD, folks. I can't handle it. I have forgotten how to
be normal.
Normal was HARD, too.
Is there anyway I can merge my personalities?
Can I be the same person online as I am in real life?
How do I fit in?
I think I have a very low self-esteem.
I also think I can be a little obnoxious.
I think I have to learn to like myself.
More than anything else, though, I really want to believe in my dream.
Rats.
I can't.
Only on the computer.
I don't think I can turn Bob Dylan into a reality.
But I know it won't be any great loss, because I have my life, I like
my life, and I have some friends, and maybe things will work out.
They always do, in the end. (G-d, that's as bad as winners never
quit.)
Anyone else?
Gemini Jackson
I try to be consistent by saying what I would say in RL. For one day
my identity may be discovered and then my high level government
position may be put in jeopardy. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some
campaigning to do.
-GJ
L Alpert
"Mark Scalise" <marks...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b7c9dffa-ebe2-498e...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
I'm a much bigger asshole in person. I try to be nice online. People
come here to feel good about themselves. :)
----
Consistency is the key.
The Hysterical Bride
> On Sep 4, 10:59 pm, jbuc...@webtv.net (J Buck) wrote:
>
> come here to feel good about themselves. :)
Now, see, this is where we are different. This is interesting. (to me)
It's also a little painful, like holding up a mirror to yourself, and
not liking what you see.
I think I get a kick out of being a bitch sometimes, like saying
something really dry and sarcastic, like some kind of one-liner that
possibly puts the other person down, something I say at their expense
to feel cool. And I don't like it. But I just can't resist. I always
think to myself, it's ok, they understand, I'm just fucking around,
I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. But I still do it, and
that's a little H(for me)TH (hard to handle).
The Hysterical Bride
I mean, what I am trying to say is, I try not to feel good about the
fact that I got to say something "cool." Anyway, if it's mean, I'm
probably the one who looks bad anyway, and I know that, but I can't
resist.
I don't know.
There must be something wrong with me. lol.
Jumbo
>
> I think I get a kick out of being a bitch sometimes, like saying
> something really dry and sarcastic, like some kind of one-liner that
> possibly puts the other person down, something I say at their expense
> to feel cool. And I don't like it. But I just can't resist. I always
> think to myself, it's ok, they understand, I'm just fucking around,
> I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. But I still do it, and
> that's a little H(for me)TH (hard to handle).
There's just something so ... American about this. I say this as
someone who's never been to the US. But I've worked in Prague and
everyone round me was American. I mean no offense. Well, not much.
If you want fuck people off, hysterical, fuck em off, but don't stop
around and rationalise all the fucking time.
The Hysterical Bride
Well, see the thing is, I would never do it in real life.
So it's a little bit of a toss up for me. I mean, what makes the
computer different? That's what we are talking about here.
My point in response to Mark was, he said that he comes here to feel
good about himself, and he is always very nice to people. I come here
to feel good about myself, and a lot of times am super obnoxious and
rude, and then laugh about it.
I guess what I am saying is, since I am not really like this in real
life, I there is some leeway in tolerance and acceptance, that I am
doing it like a gag. (I think). It makes me laugh.
But I seem to have offended a lot of people, so like I said, I'm still
unsure about it.
It's not so simple.
Same as politics.
I don't argue about it.
I don't debate people.
I see all points of view, and can not make a stand. I mean, I think I
would know what stand I would take, what seems like the lesser of all
evils, but I prefer not to.
I guess I keep questioning myself about turning people off with my
behavior.
And actually, I've turned off a lot of my family, as well, for all
kinds of reasons, including the whole Bob Dylan fiasco.
It's like I am completely living for myself, and my Bob Dylan dream. I
am wrapped up in my own ego or something. I don't know.
P.S. I sent you the Jumbo chopsticks twice, I guess you moved, and
they never forwarded them to you. Oh well. :(
The Hysterical Bride
> On Sep 5, 6:53 pm, The Hysterical Bride <rache...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > My point in response to Mark was, he said that he comes here to feel
> > good about himself, and he is always very nice to people. I come here
> > to feel good about myself, and a lot of times am super obnoxious and
> > rude, and then laugh about it.
>
> internet is an oddly empowering but alienating place. You can
> certainly reach out to a lot of people and maybe have them reach back,
> but you're not getting real hugs unless you can merge it with real
> life. And real life is better. Sometimes a lot harder, but better.
Ok, maybe I didn't state my position well.
Yes, that's what you said, and I got that.
The DIFFERENCE that I was pointing out, was THE WAY in which you feel
better about yourself.
You are often helpful, always terribly cordial and polite and funny
and cute, whereas I am often rude and obnoxious, and it makes me
laugh.
What I am struggling with, is I don't mean to turn anyone off, but
it's so much fun, but I would never say it if I thought it was hurting
the other person. I guess I expect a lot from my readers, to come to
know me well enough to not hate me for what I am doing, and to see it
for what it is. (outrageous behavior meant to be comedic and/or
entertaining, fulfilling, whatever, hopefully something positive.)
daysof48
rwalker
"Jumbo" <ch...@cupolagallery.com> wrote in message
news:16d555a9-b291-4f77...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 5, 10:23 pm, The Hysterical Bride <rache...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I think I get a kick out of being a bitch sometimes, like saying
> something really dry and sarcastic, like some kind of one-liner that
> possibly puts the other person down, something I say at their expense
> to feel cool. And I don't like it. But I just can't resist. I always
> think to myself, it's ok, they understand, I'm just fucking around,
> I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. But I still do it, and
> that's a little H(for me)TH (hard to handle).
There's just something so ... American about this. I say this as
someone who's never been to the US.
+++++++++++++
Do not judge us all by this hyterical twit.
The Hysterical Bride
I'm not a twit, I'm a twat.
A big fat hairy twat.
J Buck
someone I barely know face-to-face.>
I should add it also depends on the group dynamics and the type of
people I am interacting with. Some groups are naturally touchy-feely
friendly, others seem more grounded in aggression and getting in
someone's grill.
Jumbo
You misunderstand me. The "hysterical" stuff rachel writes is really
great. I like it. It's funny and artistic. It was the recurring downer
"have to explain myself" side I was picking up on as "typically
American" (and yes I'm not sure what I mean by that..., just I noticed
my American colleagues in Prague had problems with being all out
confrontational (when drunk, say) and ... you know, like, next day,
not giving a fuck? (Of course there are the wonderful exceptions like
Hunter Thompson, currently my god).
Jumbo
We need both!
The Hysterical Bride
>
> - Show quoted text -
OMG, Jumbo! That was so nice of you! :)
You're a dream! (now if I could only fall asleep.)
Janice
>
> Anyone else?
Well, this may be the only place I talk about Bob. No one I know
really cares.
Also, my writing synaptics do a much better job articulating thoughts
than my larynx mechanics. Mostly, I just blather in person (please
don't use that as a straight line... ba-dum).
~`~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
badlands420
> someone who's never been to the US.
Stay away. We're all fat and illiterate and own firearms.
J Buck
someone who's never been to the US.>
badlands420 wrote: <Stay away. We're all fat and illiterate and own
firearms.>
Speaking for myself, 1 outta 3 ain't bad.
The Hysterical Bride
Fastso.
;)
Jumbo
Well, badlands, you're welcome to my house, any time, man.
J Buck
someone who's never been to the US.>
badlands420 wrote: <Stay away. We're all fat and illiterate and own
firearms.>
J Buck wrote: <Speaking for myself, 1 outta 3 ain't bad.>
Rachel wrote: <Fastso. ;)>
Wrong-O :)
The Hysterical Bride
I know! That's why I winked.
I also typed it too quickly and added an unwanted s, ruining the
effect of my stupid joke.
Anyway, you are obviously illiterate.
J Buck
firearms.>
J Buck wrote: <Speaking for myself, 1 outta 3 ain't bad.>
Rachel wrote: <Fastso. ;)>
<Wrong-O :)>
<I know! That's why I winked. I also typed it too quickly and added an
unwanted s, ruining the effect of my stupid joke. Anyway, you are
obviously illiterate.>
Nope I izent.
CurrentOccupant_dudley
> I must admit I post things online that I wouldn't say to someone I
> barely know face-to-face.
>
> Anyone else?
I'll have to side with those who say they try to present themselves
online better than in "real"life.
Going back to the origins of the WWW, when we'd receive 87 AOL discs a
week, in chatrooms of the day i'd try to act like a decent person, and
continue suchly, if imperfectly, to this day.
Rather than the mangy, flea-bit, snarling yellow cur that i really am.
That said, i've never drawn too much of a distinction between "online"
& "reallife".
Each seems equally real & unreal.
May yr powder always be dry,
dudley
The Hysterical Bride
OMG!!!!! YOU OWN A *GUN*???????
YOU'RE A REDNECK!!!!!!!!!
YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR REAGAN!!!!!!!!
YOU LIKE TED NUGENT!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU EAT LIVE CHICKENS!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU SLEPT WITH YOUR SISTER!!!!!!!!!
YOU HAVE A STICKER ON THE BACK OF YOUR TRUCK WHICH SAYS, "BORN HARD!"
YOU SAY THINGS LIKE, "GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE DO!!!!!!!"
(Hey, can I play with your gun when I come over? I was top shot in my
class in Israel with an M-16.)
really real
> I must admit I post things online that I wouldn't say to someone I
> barely know face-to-face.
My personality is basically the same both online and in real life. I'm
sure, J Buck, you'll be very happy to hear this.
But in email relationships, I notice that both myself and others tend to
reveal more things bout ourselves that we wouldn't necessarily say in
real conversation.
I've also noticed that when I meet someone whom I've gotten to know on
line, that the person is a bit different than I thought they were.
rwalker
On Sep 6, 3:26 am, "rwalker" <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote:
> "Jumbo" <ch...@cupolagallery.com> wrote in message
>
> news:16d555a9-b291-4f77...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 5, 10:23 pm, The Hysterical Bride <rache...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think I get a kick out of being a bitch sometimes, like saying
> > something really dry and sarcastic, like some kind of one-liner that
> > possibly puts the other person down, something I say at their expense
> > to feel cool. And I don't like it. But I just can't resist. I always
> > think to myself, it's ok, they understand, I'm just fucking around,
> > I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. But I still do it, and
> > that's a little H(for me)TH (hard to handle).
>
> There's just something so ... American about this. I say this as
> someone who's never been to the US.
>
> +++++++++++++
>
> Do not judge us all by this hyterical twit.
You misunderstand me. The "hysterical" stuff rachel writes is really
great.
***********************
Whatever floats your boat.
I agree with you regarding Hunter S. Thompson.
The Hysterical Bride
> "Jumbo" <ch...@cupolagallery.com> wrote in message
>
> news:33c52f3a-1eec-484e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 6, 3:26 am, "rwalker" <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jumbo" <ch...@cupolagallery.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:16d555a9-b291-4f77...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Sep 5, 10:23 pm, The Hysterical Bride <rache...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > I think I get a kick out of being a bitch sometimes, like saying
> > > something really dry and sarcastic, like some kind of one-liner that
> > > possibly puts the other person down, something I say at their expense
> > > to feel cool. And I don't like it. But I just can't resist. I always
> > > think to myself, it's ok, they understand, I'm just fucking around,
> > > I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. But I still do it, and
> > > that's a little H(for me)TH (hard to handle).
>
> > There's just something so ... American about this. I say this as
> > someone who's never been to the US.
>
> > +++++++++++++
>
> > Do not judge us all by this hyterical twit.
>
> You misunderstand me. The "hysterical" stuff rachel writes is really
> great.
>
> ***********************
>
> Whatever floats your boat.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! i feel so humbled!!!!!!!!!
i thought you didn't like me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow, now don't i feel like a shmuck. :(
J Buck
Yes.
<YOU'RE A REDNECK!!!!!!!!!>
It's a state of mind.
<YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!>
Registered Independent and have voted for 4 different parties.
<YOU VOTED FOR REAGAN!!!!!!!!>
Anderson in '80, yes in '84.
<YOU LIKE TED NUGENT!!!!!!!!!!!>
He puts on a good show, you can't deny that,
<YOU EAT LIVE CHICKENS!!!!!!!!!!!>
Live? No.
<YOU SLEPT WITH YOUR SISTER!!!!!!!>
Ah, no.
<YOU HAVE A STICKER ON THE BACK OF YOUR TRUCK WHICH SAYS, "BORN HARD!">
No. I do have a 'Hi, Thanks, I Don't Care' sticker on my Firebird.
<YOU SAY THINGS LIKE, "GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE DO!!!!!!!">
Not everyday, but, yes, on occasion.
<(Hey, can I play with your gun when I come over? I was top shot in my
class in Israel with an M-16.)>
BYOA :)
J Buck
in real life. I'm sure, J Buck, you'll be very happy to hear this.>
My personality is more or less the same. It's just the delivery that is
a bit different.
<But in email relationships, I notice that both myself and others tend
to reveal more things bout ourselves that we wouldn't necessarily say in
real conversation.>
Yes, that's true.
<I've also noticed that when I meet someone whom I've gotten to know on
line, that the person is a bit different than I thought they were.>
Again, I don't find that surprising.
The Hysterical Bride
ok, i confess.
i didn't get it at first.
bring your own arsenal?
bring your own ASSHOLE?
OH!
bring your own AMMO!!!!!!!!!
NP.
You're on, dude.
Maine '10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(btw, great tits for tats) (no double entendre intended)
badlands420
> Speaking for myself, 1 outta 3 ain't bad.
We illiterates have to stick together.
The Hysterical Bride
> On Sep 7, 5:41 pm, "rwalker" <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jumbo" <ch...@cupolagallery.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:33c52f3a-1eec-484e...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> > On Sep 6, 3:26 am, "rwalker" <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Jumbo" <ch...@cupolagallery.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:16d555a9-b291-4f77...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Sep 5, 10:23 pm, The Hysterical Bride <rache...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I think I get a kick out of being a bitch sometimes, like saying
> > > > something really dry and sarcastic, like some kind of one-liner that
> > > > possibly puts the other person down, something I say at their expense
> > > > to feel cool. And I don't like it. But I just can't resist. I always
> > > > think to myself, it's ok, they understand, I'm just fucking around,
> > > > I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. But I still do it, and
> > > > that's a little H(for me)TH (hard to handle).
>
> > > There's just something so ... American about this. I say this as
> > > someone who's never been to the US.
>
> > > +++++++++++++
>
> > > Do not judge us all by this hyterical twit.
>
> > great.
>
> > ***********************
>
> > Whatever floats your boat.
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! i feel so humbled!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> wow, now don't i feel like a shmuck. :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
oh shit. i was just rereading this, and i see that i made an egregious
error.
i thought rwalker wrote what jumbo wrote, again.
(selective memory)
oh well.
rwalker doesn't like me.
who is rwalker anyway?
who is bob dylan?
who is anybody?
who is jesus?
where is heaven?
when am i going to die?
what am i doing?
fucking around.
sorry you don't like me rwalker.
you fooled me.
i thought you wrote that my stuff was really great.
i guess it doesn't float your boat.
that's ok. i understand.
it's crude, rude, and socially unacceptable.
i'll live. (i think)
The Hysterical Bride
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bob can't marry a ditz.
What am I going to do?
I'll never be good enough.
Ron Wood is dating an 18 year old woman.
I'm sure Bob is, too. :(
I'm so depressed. :(
Treadleson
> I must admit I post things online that I wouldn't say to someone I
> barely know face-to-face.
>
I'm far more obnoxious in real time.
The Hysterical Bride
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sorry for the confusion about rwalker.