How Bob Dylan and Lou Reed became friends
52stations
http://www.examiner.com/x-21829-Bob-Dylan-Examiner~y2010m3d1-How-Bob-Dylan-and-Lou-Reed-became-friends
Janice
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> How Bob Dylan and Lou Reed became friends
> http://www.examiner.com/x-21829-Bob-Dylan-Examiner~y2010m3d1-How-Bob-...
So, about the Dylan 30th Anniversary Celebration Concert at Madison
Square Garden, Lou comments on his choice of "Foot of Pride" for his
song:
"I chose 'Foot Of Pride' because I just got back from an eight-month
tour. Once a day I would listen to it and just fall down
laughing. ...
"That was as much fun as I could ever have, as much fun as anyone
could legally have."
Well, I don't get it. What's so funny about Foot of Pride?
~`~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ain’t nothin’ left here partner, just the dust of a plague
that has left this whole town afraid
really real
>
>
> Well, I don't get it. What's so funny about Foot of Pride?
The first two lines must have seemed pretty hilarious to Lou,
considering all the transsexuals he's hung out with:
"Like the lion tears the flesh off of a man
So can a woman who passes herself off as a male"
Dr_dudley
Wie geht es Ihnen?
Danke, mir geht es gut.
On Mar 3, 2:10 am, r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote:
> 52stations <hwycdr...@aol.com> writes:
> >How Bob Dylan and Lou Reed became friends
>
> In the sixties Dylan, already sent Nico to VU.
>
> (Actually, he introduced her to Andy Warhol,
> who then became manager of VU and proposed her
> to the group as a singer.)
>
> Both Dylan and Reed might have had some kind of
> personal relationship with Nico at one time.
>
> Dylan gave I'll keep it with mine to her
> (I do not know what this exactly means, but it
> often is put into this wording, she performed it)
> and wrote Visions of Johanna after he met her.
> Sometimes, people take Louise and Johanna to be
> related to Sara and Joan, but some also see
> some relation to Nico.
I don't have any definitive response to your post. I find no evidence
that bob introduced Nico to Andy.
It's said, as you suggest, that bob gave IKIwM to her, but i don't
know what that means any more than you, or anyone else here or
previously here.
Here's the mandatory u2bz:
Bob Dylan - I'll keep it with mine
Dr_dudley
Nico "I'll Keep It With Mine":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcnYkf5nm14
Fairport Convention - I'll Keep It With Mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtFXmS9FmA
Nico and Lou Reed - Rehearsals 1971:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Iq_47Wkm0
the velvet undergound &nico - Femme Fatale:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjjDmX9Tkss
The Velvet Underground & Nico - I'll be your mirror:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHmAUODVaLY
everybody will help you
dudley
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Edwin Hawkins - Oh happy day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD2D6eter7M
Big Sur Festival '70 / Joan Baez, Dorothy Morrison and more. " Oh
Happy Day ":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUKx-rvQoAg
One Day at a Time - Joan Baez [Live at Woodstock 1969]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDSNJ_Ky-r4
adamlynn
Do transsexuals "hang out"?
Just Walkin'
> of course there's more:
>
> Nico "I'll Keep It With Mine":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcnYkf5nm14
>
> Fairport Convention - I'll Keep It With Mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtFXmS9FmA
>
> Nico and Lou Reed - Rehearsals 1971:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Iq_47Wkm0
>
> the velvet undergound &nico - Femme Fatale:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjjDmX9Tkss
>
> The Velvet Underground & Nico - I'll be your mirror:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHmAUODVaLY
>
> everybody will help you
>
> dudley
> +++
>
> Big Sur Festival '70 / Joan Baez, Dorothy Morrison and more. " Oh
> Happy Day ":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUKx-rvQoAg
>
> One Day at a Time - Joan Baez [Live at Woodstock 1969]:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDSNJ_Ky-r4
Oh happy day when our dear doctor dudley posts valuable research for
all the world to see!
crazytimes
> In the sixties Dylan, already sent Nico to VU.
> (Actually, he introduced her to Andy Warhol,
> who then became manager of VU and proposed her
> to the group as a singer.)
Al Aronowitz was probaby the go-between between these people...
> Dylan gave I'll keep it with mine to her
> (I do not know what this exactly means, but it
> often is put into this wording, she performed it)
> and wrote Visions of Johanna after he met her.
> Sometimes, people take Louise and Johanna to be
> related to Sara and Joan, but some also see
> some relation to Nico.
He wrote lots of songs after he met her, but they can't all be about
her... or can they...
I don't see Nico in that song... I'd say Louise is Suze and Johanna
is Joanna...
Dr_dudley
>
>
> > 52stations <hwycdr...@aol.com> writes:
> > >How Bob Dylan and Lou Reed became friends
>
> > In the sixties Dylan, already sent Nico to VU.
>
> > (Actually, he introduced her to Andy Warhol,
> > who then became manager of VU and proposed her
> > to the group as a singer.)
>
> > Both Dylan and Reed might have had some kind of
> > personal relationship with Nico at one time.
>
> > Dylan gave I'll keep it with mine to her
> > (I do not know what this exactly means, but it
> > often is put into this wording, she performed it)
> > and wrote Visions of Johanna after he met her.
> > Sometimes, people take Louise and Johanna to be
> > related to Sara and Joan, but some also see
> > some relation to Nico.
>
> I don't have any definitive response to your post. I find no evidence
> that bob introduced Nico to Andy.
>
'K, not that it matters, but i've found online this page:
http://smironne.free.fr/NICO/bio.html
Wherein "Dylan wrote her a tribute on his album Blonde on Blonde
called Visions of Johanna, later he introduced her to Andy Warhol..."
Which, depending on one's perspective is either true in its entirety,
or fraught with multiple Miss Information.
The timeline seems to include Brian Jones, Alain Delon, and Jackson
Browne. Somewhere along the line bobby's "regular sidekick" Bobby
Neuwirth figures in.
It's a question, as often, of mind over matter.
If you don't mind, it don't matter.
Here's another youtube:
Nico covers Gordon Lightfoot's "I'm Not Sayin' " (1965):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgdZFnZ6M0k
HTH,
dudley
Dr_dudley
of course 'round hear the joke has long been "what does this dylna
song mean?". The joke answer was "heroin".
Here's some songs about bob dylan.
Velvet Underground - Heroin, Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz6nq4AhFZE
The Velvet Underground - Heroin (an inneresting visual treatment of
the studio recording):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJNMnBhf-Ds
Lou Reed Heroin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5eXSPKHlso
Velvet Underground Live Exploding Plastic Inevitable 1966:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvMqMvj-GEU
Inevitably:
}
On the slow train time does not interfere & at the Arabian crossing
waits White Heap, the man from the newspaper & behind him the hundred
Inevitables made of solid rock & stone -- the Cream Judge & the Clown
-- the doll house where Savage Rose & Fixable live simply in their
wild animal luxury . . . . Autumn, with two zeros above her nose
arguing over the sun being dark or Bach is as famous as its commotion
& that she herself -- not Orpheus -- is the logical poet "I am the
logical poet" she screams "Spring? Spring is only the beginning!" she
attempts to make Cream Judge jealous by telling him of down-to-earth
people & while the universe is erupting, she points to the slow train
& prays for rain and for time to interfere -- she is not extremely fat
but rather progressively unhappy . . . . the hundred Inevitables hide
their predictions & go to bars & drink & get drunk in their very
special conscious way & when tom dooley, the kind of person you think
you've seen before, comes strolling in with White Heap, the hundred
Inevitables all say "who's that man who looks so white?" & the
bartender, a good boy & one who keeps the buffalo in his mind, says,
"I don't know, but I'm sure I've seen the other fellow someplace" &
when Paul Sargent, a plainclothes man from 4th street, comes in at
three in the morning & busts everybody for being incredible, nobody
really gets angry -- just a little illiterate most people get & Rome,
one of the hundred Inevitables whispers "I told you so" to Madam
John . . .
{
Verdantly yrs,
dudley
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of course there is for every poison known to (wo)man an antidote.
Here's some.
UP WHERE WE BELONG : JOE COCKER AND JENNIFER WARNES:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFYtpTot7hQ
Jennifer Warnes - Song Of Bernadette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZIFavgLd38
Jennifer Warnes at Bluesfest 2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY9i0lflxm0
Buffy Sainte-Marie - Up Wh(ere We Belong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLCk066o9sU
Who By Fire (featuring Sonny Rollins):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2T274bXIxU
The Band - The Making of "Up On Cripple Creek":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCmxMrgfDA
The Band "Up on Cripple Creek" on The Ed Sullivan Show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zo6Sob0jSg
(i suspect this)
(i don't suspect these)
Sesame Street - Cripple Creek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALFKIWKQK9A
Buffy Sainte-Marie demonstrates the mouth bow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krx2MoTaAVo
Uncle Joe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOX6hobaU8Q
Midnight Special - Billy Swan "I Can Help"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv54nLzBtLI
Janice
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> o yeah
.
> of course 'round hear the joke has long been "what does this dylna
> song mean?". The joke answer was "heroin".
.
> Here's some songs about bob dylan.
Heyhi dudely,
Can't bring myself to celebrate pain anymore.
I'd rather be like the blade of grass:
"A blade of grass apparently has the power to break through a slab of
concrete, yet it clearly doesn't have the strength to accomplish this
feat. But perhaps it isn't breaking through the concrete at all.
Perhaps, using the principle that energy flows where attention goes,
it is focusing all of its attention on reaching the sun, and it is
ignoring the concrete completely. Perhaps, in the face of such a
love, the concrete simply parts to let it through."
-- Serge Kahili King
~`~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bears repeating:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSer4wdHvm8
PGPear...@aol.com
For years I thought Bob sang
"Like the lion tears the flesh of a LAMB"....
Must of been a very closely cropped lamb ;)
Paul Pearson
Dr_dudley
> On Mar 5, 6:05 am, Dr_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:
> .
>
> > o yeah
> .
> > of course 'round hear the joke has long been "what does this dylna
> > song mean?". The joke answer was "heroin".
> .
> > Here's some songs about bob dylan.
>
> Heyhi dudely,
>
> Can't bring myself to celebrate pain anymore.
>
I think you're responding to my links to "heroin" songs.
Let me say this about that.
Nobody feels any pain.
Everybody must get stoned.
Lines that in previous days referred to drunkenness, but in bob's
oeuvre have been re-interpreted.
> I'd rather be like the blade of grass:
>
> "A blade of grass apparently has the power to break through a slab of
> concrete, yet it clearly doesn't have the strength to accomplish this
> feat. But perhaps it isn't breaking through the concrete at all.
> Perhaps, using the principle that energy flows where attention goes,
> it is focusing all of its attention on reaching the sun, and it is
> ignoring the concrete completely. Perhaps, in the face of such a
> love, the concrete simply parts to let it through."
> -- Serge Kahili King
You seem to like this Mr King guy.
Here's another Dyaln:
}
The force that through the green fuse drives the flower
by Dylan Thomas
The force that through the green fuse drives the flower
Drives my green age; that blasts the roots of trees
Is my destroyer.
And I am dumb to tell the crooked rose
My youth is bent by the same wintry fever.
The force that drives the water through the rocks
Drives my red blood; that dries the mouthing streams
Turns mine to wax.
And I am dumb to mouth unto my veins
How at the mountain spring the same mouth sucks.
The hand that whirls the water in the pool
Stirs the quicksand; that ropes the blowing wind
Hauls my shroud sail.
And I am dumb to tell the hanging man
How of my clay is made the hangman's lime.
The lips of time leech to the fountain head;
Love drips and gathers, but the fallen blood
Shall calm her sores.
And I am dumb to tell a weather's wind
How time has ticked a heaven round the stars.
And I am dumb to tell the lover's tomb
How at my sheet goes the same crooked worm.
{
>
> ~`~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Bears repeating:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSer4wdHvm8
I'm sorry yaaa''ll if i caused you any pain.
}
Song of Myself
1
I CELEBRATE myself, and sing myself,
And what I assume you shall assume,
For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.
I loafe and invite my soul,
I lean and loafe at my ease observing a spear of summer grass.
...
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
{
fondly,
rdd
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtFXmS9FmAx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lCH5JgWCZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsyHo8iUsjE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awmgpZFXHfk
o sister, o happy day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD2D6eter7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUKx-rvQoAg
Janice
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> > Can't bring myself to celebrate pain anymore.
.
> I think you're responding to my links to "heroin" songs.
.
> Let me say this about that.
.
> Nobody feels any pain.
.
> Everybody must get stoned.
.
> Lines that in previous days referred to drunkenness, but in bob's
> oeuvre have been re-interpreted.
Thanks for the clarity, dudley. I feel better already.
(Why do I think of eggs whenever I see the word "oeuvre"?)
.
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> Song of Myself
.
> I loafe and invite my soul,
> I lean and loafe at my ease observing a spear of summer grass.
> ...
> Do I contradict myself?
> Very well then I contradict myself,
> (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
I love a moment of paradox. Here's Kafka:
"You do not need to leave your room.
Remain sitting at your table and listen.
Do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet still and solitary.
The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked,
it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet.
> fondly,
> rdd
. . .
> o sister, o happy day:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUKx-rvQoAg
Thanks for this, by the way -- it just knocks me out. I'd love to
respond in kind, but don't know that I could find anything to live up
to it... except maybe that other link you once offered of Arlo & gang
(and I keep repeating):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSF89swJ9IU
~`~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
lift your head and smile at trouble
you'll find happiness someday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72hq9kLyUQ
Dr_dudley
> Thanks for this, by the way -- it just knocks me out. I'd love to
> respond in kind, but don't know that I could find anything to live up
> to it
These have always worked for me.
Witchi Tai To.
Somebody made a nice slideshow for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkVjd1fJMME
Here's a different take:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2YeEUlyhQw
I'm sure there's more.
David Crosby - What Are Their Names:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSYlPYalNQo
Here's one for my 3rd Grandboy, due to drop late July. Baby Tree
somebody made a nice slideshow for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkz4safz1Do
The Baby Tree - Paul Kantner & Jefferson Starship (2006) HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuDh_b8U34Y
There's more, but i'll leave it at that.
dudely
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Paul Newman - Cool Hand Luke - "Plastic Jesus":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG9tuuznL1Y
17 Hank Snow Ninety Miles An Hour Down a Dead End Street:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7TWijzaf5Q
Jerome Kern - The Way You Look Tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPUAHTWQ6Ps