The earliest tape I know of is the May 1961 Minn. Party Tape. There was
supposed to be some high school recordings on the CDROM, but they are not
there. What songs are on this May 1960 tape? It's possible that it is a
mislabeling of the 1961 recordings.
First of all this is not the first tape in circulation of Bob Dylan even
if it is authentic. The Bucklen tape is from 1958 and has been discussed
in many other threads...
And "fake" may not be the best word either. It may or may not be Bob Dylan,
but it probably is a tape of someone made by Karen Wallace in her
St Paul, Minnesota apartment in 1960.
The real question is, is it Dylan or did she decide a tape she has of
someone else is enough like Dylan that is has serious monetary value
if she pretends it is Dylan?
James Lor (jame...@canrem.com) wrote:
: I would like to clear up some detials about Bob's first recording.
I think it is Dylan. Glen Dundas thinks it is. Michael Krogsgaard
thinks it is not. Opinions vary like that, people with considerable
listening experience of pre-Columbian Dylan in appalling recording
quality are not agreed. You must listen and decide.
Some think it is Paul Clayton. Listen to some Paul Clayton. Listen
to the tape. Listen to some seriously early Dylan. Mull it over.
Take your time. It is kinda fun to do.
If you are into 1995 DATs of concerts and care about audio quality
the tape may well be a substantial culture shock. If you want to know
if you can stomach your Dylan at this vintage take your favourite Dylan,
make fifteen generations of tape copies on the cheapest tape you can find
through the speakers with a microphone from a children's cheap toy, make
sure people talk over it from time to time, point the microphone in
the wrong direction, run a tap in the background, then listen to the
resulting tape at distorting volume six rooms away from a bad torn
speaker. You must be wearing earmuffs while doing this. If you still
think Dylan's genius shows through then you are ready for the type
of tape we are discussing.
This kind of tape is more like archaeology than music, it takes a certain
sort of person to get pleasure from it. Such people might seriously
scare you. Right, Ben? Clive? Geoffrey? Les? Stuart? :-)
EDLIS has been working on a major transcription project of this tape,
but that is not a reason not to discuss it now. We are more than interested
in what people think. And an edited highlights of previous threads on this
might be worth reposting if anyone has the old postings?
Karen Wallace's Apartment, St Paul, Minnesota, May 1960.
[now Karen Moynihan], St Paul tape 1960.]
The Armpit Tape was recorded by concealing the tape
recorder (literally) in an armpit. Karen Wallace originally tried
to sell this tape for $10,000. She used to play samples from it
to potential buyers. Brian Stibal [Zimmerman Blues etc.] brought
a tape recorder in his armpit and managed to capture the
excellent recording we all love so much... Is it Dylan or might
it be Paul Clayton?
Go Tell It On The Mountain (Traditional) , Fare Thee Well
(Traditional) , Delia's Gone [Delia] (Blind Blake) , Wop
Da Alano (Traditional) , Who's Gonna Shoe Your Horse
(Traditional)  and Who's Gonna Shoe Your Pretty Little Feet
(Traditional)  are omitted. Guitar and vocals, no harmonica.
: James Lor (jame...@canrem.com) wrote:
: : I would like to clear up some detials about Bob's first recording.
: : Supposedly,someone recorded a tape in May 1960 in St. Paul. When I asked
: : for a copy from a collector I was informed this tape was probably NOT
: : Dylan. Anyone else have an opinion on this tape which I have not yet
: : heard.Is it worth getting?
: Yes. Yes.
: I think it is Dylan. Glen Dundas thinks it is. Michael Krogsgaard
: thinks it is not. Opinions vary like that, people with considerable
: listening experience of pre-Columbian Dylan in appalling recording
: quality are not agreed. You must listen and decide.
If we're just voting I'd like to say that I also think it's
Dylan. Of course I'm assuming I haven't mixed it up with any other
recording but I don't have much from 1960... and this one does
sound like it might not be Dylan. I think it is... it DOES sound
like him. I'm not sure how we recognize voices but this one feels
like it's Bob's.
It's worth getting either way. IMO, the performances are a lot more
enjoyable than those on his first album.
the whole problem is that there are no good copies.
i'd like to be wrong about that but i haven't heard (of)
anything from 1960 sounding remotely decent.
it's listenable only because it's solo acoustic.