Leon
Robert Fuhrel
until a year or two ago he appeared at least annually here
in Las Vegas at Arizona Charlie's. Best, Bob
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:00:23 -0400
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> 1. October 26, 2005 - Hannover, Germany - set list (2)
> 2. Bangladesh Bob (5)
> 3. Bertha Mason?
> 4. News on Todd Haynes' Dylan movie
> 5. Garcia Plays Dylan (2)
> 6. HOW CAN I CONTACT SPECIAL RIDER MUSIC?
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>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:03:02 GMT
>From: Peter Stone Brown <ps...@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: October 26, 2005 - Hannover, Germany - set
>list
>
>"Ingo Degenhardt" <degi...@gmx.de> wrote in message
>news:s500m1pas09poo92g...@4ax.com...
>> Been away from it all for a while, I visited this show.
>> Especially liked High Water, Highway 61, You ain't...
>>and Watchtower.
>> great.
>> I did not get the band member's names when introduced
>>and only
>> recognized Tony Garnier. What's their names?
>> Is Mr. Dylan not playing the guitar any more? And why?
>>
>
>Stu Kimball is the guitar player standing right next to
>Dylan.
>Donnie Heron plays steel guitar, violin and banjo.
>Denny Freeman is the other guitarist, and George Recili
>is the drummer.
>Dylan hasn't been playing guitar in concert for a few
>years now and there is
>only speculation as to why.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:14:26 GMT
>From: Peter Stone Brown <ps...@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: Bangladesh Bob
>
>"don freeman" <dfr...@nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:vrU7f.314779$tl2.102665@pd7tw3no...
>>>
>>> Good review but others have said George was never in
>>>better form. I
>>> haven't seen the video in years but I'm planning on
>>>getting the new DVD.
>>
>>
>> It's true, George has never been better. His
>>performances are surprisingly
>> good. But he ain't Leon, at least Leon in his prime. Of
>>course, George and
>> Leon are totally different kinds of performers.
>>
>> This concert was really the start of Leon's stardom. It
>>must also have
>> been what inspired the Dylan-Leon collaborations that,
>>for some reason,
>> went nowhere.
>
>The sessions with Leon Russell took place months before
>the concert. It was
>not the start of Russell's stardom.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:28:49 GMT
>From: Peter Stone Brown <ps...@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: Bertha Mason?
>
>"Temporary Like Achilles"
><temporaryl...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>message
>news:1130379082....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Bertha Mason appears in "High Water" on Love And Theft:
>>
>> Bertha Mason shook it, broke it
>> Then she hung it on the wall.
>> She said, "You're dancin' with whom they tell you to
>> Or you don't dance at all."
>>
>> Does anyone know who she is? I know of Bertha Mason, the
>>madwoman in
>> the attic in Bronte's Jane Eyre. But does anyone know of
>>an American
>> Bertha Mason, real or fictional, folk or otherwise? If
>>she *is* the
>> character from Jane Eyre, then that adds an interesting
>>layer (or
>> series of layers) to the song. It would be good to know,
>>therefore, if
>> that is the character Dylan references. Thanks.
>>
>> Temporary
>
>This was discussed here when the album came out (search
>Google) but for all
>the references in the album check out Artur J's great
>Love and Theft site
>which has every conceivable reference for ever song on
>the album.
>
>The page for this song is here:
>
>http://www.bobdylan.republika.pl/lat/highwater.htm
>
>The main site is here:
>
>http://www.bobdylan.republika.pl/lat/
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:36:53 +1000
>From: Patricia Jungwirth <tric...@aardvark.net.au>
>Subject: News on Todd Haynes' Dylan movie
>
>from interview with Julianne Moore :
>
>WCT: Will you make me happy and tell me you?re going to
>do another Todd
>Haynes movie?
>
>JM: ( brightens ) Yeah, I am! You know, Todd?s next movie
>is about Dylan,
>isn?t that cool? It?s this meditation on Dylan with all
>these people
>playing Dylan-like characters and I have a very, very
>small part in it
>where I?m like the Joan Baez/Joni Mitchell kind of
>character. It?s teensy
>weensy but I?m happy to do it because I really love Todd.
>I don?t know when
>he?s going to shoot it, I think they?re raising the money
>now.
>
>http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=9568
>
>Also on tap for production in the Spring are new films
>from Todd Haynes and
>Tom Kalin. "Savage Grace" is Kalin's long anticipated new
>film, while
>Haynes' "I'm Not There" features an unconventional (and
>sanctioned) look at
>the life of Bob Dylan with different actors (Cate
>Blanchett, Colin Farrell,
>Christian Bale, Richard Gere, Julianne Moore and
>Charlotte Gainsbourg)
>portraying the musician during various periods of his
>life. Vachon noted
>that in the case of this film, the stellar cast is both
>appropriate to the
>material and necessary to reassure financiers concerned
>about the risky
>approach to the story.
>
>[EDITORS NOTE: This story was slightly modified due to
>incorrect cast
>information for the new Todd Haynes film, "I'm Not
>There." Christian Bale
>has replaced Adrien Brody in the cast. Also, Killer Films
>has clarified the
>description of the movie. In the film, the actors don't
>play Bob Dylan at
>different periods in his life, but rather portray
>characters based on
>different aspects of Dylan. And Julianne Moore and
>Charlotte Gainsbourg
>play other characters, not ones who are representations
>of Dylan.]
>
>http://www.indiewire.com/biz/2005/10/killer_films_10.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:55:08 GMT
>From: don freeman <dfr...@nospam.shaw.ca>
>Subject: Re: Bangladesh Bob
>
>> I picked up the DVD this week & knew immediately upon
>>watching it that I
>> would NEED the CDs too!
>
>There's a program you can buy called DVD audio ripper
>that creates cds
>from dvds. You shouldn't have to buy Bangladesh twice.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:24:33 GMT
>From: Peter Stone Brown <ps...@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: Bangladesh Bob
>
>"don freeman" <dfr...@nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:0%48f.327552$tl2.224863@pd7tw3no...
>>
>>> I picked up the DVD this week & knew immediately upon
>>>watching it that I
>>> would NEED the CDs too!
>>
>> There's a program you can buy called DVD audio ripper
>>that creates cds
>> from dvds. You shouldn't have to buy Bangladesh twice.
>>
>
>It's a benefit album.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:00:32 GMT
>From: don freeman <dfr...@nospam.shaw.ca>
>Subject: Re: Bangladesh Bob
>
>>>
>>>There's a program you can buy called DVD audio ripper
>>>that creates cds
>>>from dvds. You shouldn't have to buy Bangladesh twice.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's a benefit album.
>>
>>
>Yes, a small percentage of the profits go to the benefit.
>I suppose you
>could also buy the downloads for Bangladesh and get it
>three times.
>
>Why not just give some money to the worthy cause and only
>buy the
>product once? Seems like a waste of resources to buy it
>over and over again.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:58:32 EDT
>From: Tim Herrick <TIM...@aol.com>
>Subject: Garcia Plays Dylan
>
>=20
>I=E2=80=99m quite aware that Jerry Garcia and the
>Grateful Dead are not as =20=
>popular=20
>as one might suspect on RMD. However, I=E2=80=99m an
>unabashed fan and I fin=
>d the new=20
>record Garcia Plays Dylan quite satisfying. =20
>One knock. Although the liner notes are okay, written by
>Blair Jackson, who=
>=20
>wrote a not half bad bio of Jerry soon after his death,
>they leave much to =20=
>be=20
>desired regarding how Dylan felt about Jerry=E2=80=99s
>covers of his tunes.=20=
>The liner=20
> notes end up with another quote of Dylan=E2=80=99s
>eulogy for Jerry, and wh=
>ile=20
>poignant as that may be, come on all ready, it=E2=80=99s
>been ten years. We=
>ll, let=E2=80=99s hope=20
>Bob was saving it for Chronicles Volume II. Otherwise,
>the liner notes are=20
>pretty interesting. =20
>Otherwise, what is very interesting about this record,
>compared to say othe=
>r=20
>Dylan interpretations, is that it is more about
>performance of the song tha=
>n=20
>meaning or essence of the song. Garcia jammed, he
>improvised, he extended =20
>the chord changes or whatever. The solos are long. Either
>like that sort of=20=
>=20
>thing or you don=E2=80=99t, or you either like
>Garcia=E2=80=99s sound or you=
> don=E2=80=99t. But, Dylan =20
>is rarely presented in that context. Even his long songs
>are just extra=20
>verses. Garcia explores the melodies and for me,
>it=E2=80=99s like Coltrane=
> when he did =20
>Greensleeves or My Favorite Things (there I said it!),
>except that GArcia do=
>es =20
>this in a rock and roll context. Jazz could take a show
>tune or standard or=20=
>a =20
>folk song like green sleeves, but jazz also transformed
>it into jazz, or som=
>e=20
> jazz sub genre like avante garde or something. Here, the
>songs are rock and=
>=20
>roll and Garcia uses that as a starting point and end
>point, let=E2=80=99s=20=
>us hear a=20
>mulitude of aspects of the melody. His vocals are game,
>although some of th=
>e=20
>songs from the 90s his voice is a tad shot. But
>it=E2=80=99s not what is go=
>ing on=20
>here. Also, the record includes Garcia with the Grateful
>Dead, several vers=
>ions=20
>of touring band, mostly known as the Jerry Garcia Band,
>but sometimes Legio=
>n=20
>of Mary or Garcia and Saunders.=20
>The best song, and truly revelatory is Tough Moma, circa
>1975,from a JGB =20
>line up that included Nicky Hopkins, famed session
>pianist. There is just so=
>me =20
>great interplay twixt hopkins and garcia, particularly
>after the hotter than=
> a =20
>crotch all i did was watch couplet, where garcia either
>forgets or wasn=E2=
>=80=99t =20
>planning to sing the dark bueaty line, and it=E2=80=99s
>just a remarkable mu=
>sical =20
>interlude. Two great musicians finding a perfect tune to
>have dialog through=
>. =20
>The It Takes a Lot to Laugh Train to Cry from a garcia
>saunders session is=20
>almost nostalgia, cause in the 70s or so, when FM still
>had DJs, that Keyst=
>one=20
>record had some FM hits so to speak and this version is
>one of them. =20
>The 90s JGB tunes are interesting as well, here
>garcia=E2=80=99s voice is we=
>ll, =20
>shot, and he had a couple of gospel singers back him up.
>He does a really =20
>formidable forever young, which is pretty phenemonal
>since it=E2=80=99s neve=
>r been one of my=20
>favorite of the well played anthems. Also, JGB=E2=80=99s
>version of Tangled=20=
>Up in =20
>Blue, an arrangement dylan copped for a while he was
>doing an electric versi=
>on =20
>during mid-period never ending, I find incredibly
>compelling. The tangled up=
>=20
>in blue refrain at the end of each verse is repeated by
>the female chorus h=
>ere=20
> (tangled up in bl-uuuuuuuuuu-ue-ue). =20
>The dead versions are not quite as good as from postcards
>from the hanging.=
>=20
>The she belongs to me is a really touching vocal there,
>one of garcia=E2=80=
>=99s best=20
>vocals, here not quite the same. Although the Visions of
>Johanna, which is =20
>not that record but on one called The Phil Zone, is a
>much better version th=
>an =20
>the phil zone one. Garcia remembers all the lyrics on
>this one! The dead has=
> =20
>been doing It=E2=80=99s all over now baby blue since
>their earliest days, an=
>d i would =20
>have prefered one of thier more pyschedlecized versions.
>But, for the dylan=20=
>=20
>songs from the dead here, it=E2=80=99s a neat survey of
>the last period of t=
>hat great =20
>band. Funny, seems Garcia was doing more dylan songs in
>the last decade of=20
>his life and performing career, at the same time, he had
>lost interest in =20
>songwriting. =20
>The oddest thing is from one of bands called Legion of
>Mary. Kind of a jazz=
>=20
>fusion ensemble. Does a wicked messenger here that is
>completely off the =20
>wall, just entirely strange, a car wreck you
>can=E2=80=99t take your ears of=
>f of. Might =20
>grow on me this one. =20
>Hard to say where Garcia fits into the dylan interpreter
>pantheon. Not as =20
>distinctive as say Just Like A woman by Richie Havens,
>the number of songs d=
>one =20
>by McGuinn or Johnny Cash, or Joan Baez. But Garcia
>brings something else to=
>=20
>the table. The songs are not the best versions of the
>songs=E2=80=94the kno=
>ckin on=20
>heaven=E2=80=99s door is kind of grating=E2=80=94but,
>while they are obviou=
>sly dylan songs=20
>they are used to for the performance, the jam. They are
>going after a diffe=
>rent=20
>thing than other interpretations, and since these are
>all live, not meant f=
>or=20
>recordings. So, maybe it=E2=80=99s like a new
>category=E2=80=94best live ve=
>rsions of dylan=20
>interpretations? =20
>Hey, i=E2=80=99ve always been a fan of Garcia and The
>Grateful Dead. I sort=20=
>of like=20
>Postcatds better, cause the dead were better than
>Garcia=E2=80=99s solo band=
>s. But, =20
>garcia is a great, and distinctive guitarist, someone i
>love listening to. W=
>hat=20
> is unique about his sound is that really comes out of
>blue grass and finger=
> =20
>picking folk. In terms of the electric guitar, garcia did
>for bluegrass what=
> =20
>hendrix did for blues. He=E2=80=99s not much of a
>favorite or much appreciat=
>ed here I=20
> know, and no matter what praise I give I know I
>ain=E2=80=99t gonna change=20=
>nobody=E2=80=99s=20
> opinion so I ain=E2=80=99t a hankering too. It=E2=80=99s
>also kind of sad t=
>hat Garcia=E2=80=99s=20
>great blue grass band, old in the way, apparently did no
>dylan songs. Mayb=
>e=20
>though, those famed dead/dylan rehersal
>sessions=E2=80=94a snipped of which=
> is on=20
>Postcards=E2=80=94and maybe superior concert versions
>than the dissappoinit=
>ing official=20
>release=E2=80=94could be released. =20
>In the meantime, there is a jam band movement out there,
>and garcia and =20
>dylan are revered and those in that movement have a new
>record to revere and=
> =20
>revere with them I shall.=20
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:41:45 GMT
>From: Peter Stone Brown <ps...@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: HOW CAN I CONTACT SPECIAL RIDER MUSIC?
>
><horn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1130358851.5...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>>I NEED A LICENSE TO RECORD ONE OF HIS SONGS. TRIED ALL
>>THE USUAL
>> AVENUES--HARRY FOX, BMI, ASCAP, SESAC, ETC.
>>
>> HELP!
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> SCOTT
>>
>
>Sesac didn't work????? They couldn't point you in the
>direction?
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:21:35 +0000
>From: Seth Kulick <sku...@linc.cis.upenn.edu>
>Subject: Re: Garcia Plays Dylan
>
>: On 27 Oct 2005 08:58:44 -0700, TIM...@aol.com (Tim
>Herrick) wrote:
>
>: > opinion so I ain?t a hankering too. It?s also kind of
>sad that Garcia?s
>: >great blue grass band, old in the way, apparently did
>no dylan songs.
>
>Garcia also did some Dylan songs acoustic, with John
>Kahn, and very
>rarely (I think only on 4/10/82), entirely by himself.
> Too bad none of those
>made to this disc. I think Garica & Grisman did She
>Belongs to Me as well
>at some live shows.
>
>I like hearing Garcia sing Dylan, especially when
>Garcia's voice was really
>shot. It just seems to fit the emotions of the song
>better, or something like
>that. In contrast to Weir, surely one of worst singers
>of Dylan I've
>ever heard. But the problem with the Dead doing Dylan is
>that they didn't
>cover Dylan in the years when they were truly great,
>1968-1972. They
>started covering all those Dylan songs in the 80s, when
>it was too late.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:18:46 -0700
>From: "PGPear...@aol.com" <PGPear...@aol.com>
>Subject: Re: October 26, 2005 - Hannover, Germany - set
>list
>
>don freeman wrote:
>> > 10. Never Gonna Be The Same Again
>>
>> This is one way to beat the overreliance on the 60s
>>songs, to pull out
>> this one from 1985's Empire Burlesque.
>>
>> I don't remember Bob singing this one before.
>
>Don:
>
>Check this:
>
>http://www.adamselzer.com/boblast.html
>
>Paul Pearson
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:42:43 EDT
>From: Tim Herrick <TIM...@aol.com>
>Subject: Bangladesh Bob
>
>In a message dated 10/27/2005 7:05:16 PM Eastern Standard
>Time,
>LIST...@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU writes:
>
>Bangladesh Bob
>
>>
>> Good review but others have said George was never in
>>better form. I
>> haven't seen the video in years but I'm planning on
>>getting the new DVD.
>
>
>It's true, George has never been better. His
>performances are
>surprisingly good. But he ain't Leon, at least Leon in
>his prime. Of
>course, George and Leon are totally different kinds of
>performers.
>
>This concert was really the start of Leon's stardom.
>wasn't it sort of the end of his stardom as well? Haven't
>seen the flick or
>heard the soundtrack in quite a long time, and while leon
>was great, where did
> he go from there?
>
>I remember reading he was actually scheduled to play at
>watkins glenn with
>the dead, band and allmans, but there was some scheduling
>something or another,
> and he didn't get to play but was paid.
>
>what the heck ever happened to leon? I'm not being
>snarky. Just don't know.
>
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