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Nashville Skyline - Mono vs Stereo

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Martin

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Sep 25, 2007, 11:46:30 AM9/25/07
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Can anyone who can be bothered explain to me why the Sundazed issue of
this is not in mono - seeing as it was the last album to be released
in mono? Is it a case of the mono mix being inferior in some way to
the stereo? Apologies to anyone who doesn't care, but the music means
a lot to me y'know

Mr Jinx

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Sep 25, 2007, 11:57:08 AM9/25/07
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Sorry, I don't know the answer to this. I thought the Sundazed
version was in mono!

I always think of dear Brian Wilson when the subject of mono and
stereo mixes comes up. Now there was a man with one ear who could pan
the full spectrum of stereo. Maybe all we need are mono albums and
Brian's imagination.

Mr Jinx

Francois Kahn

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Sep 25, 2007, 12:12:30 PM9/25/07
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Martin <martin...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

I guess the mono mix for "Nashville Skyline" was just a fold-down
compared to the stereo version, as were most mono albums at the end of
the 60's. "John Wesley Harding" had a dedicated mix, a fact that had
been overlooked and it was interesting to hear it again. For "Nashville
Skyline" you'd just have to switch a button on your amp and you hear the
mono version.

Now, if the vinyl could be available in Paris...
--
FK
"Send lawyers, guns and money..."

Martin

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Sep 25, 2007, 12:58:48 PM9/25/07
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On Sep 25, 5:12 pm, lore...@alussinan.org (Francois Kahn) wrote:

> I guess the mono mix for "Nashville Skyline" was just a fold-down
> compared to the stereo version

A fold down being..?

> Now, if the vinyl could be available in Paris...

I can get a copy to you if you want one. It sounds great, although
not that cheap at £14.99

Francois Kahn

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Sep 25, 2007, 2:07:11 PM9/25/07
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Martin <martin...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sep 25, 5:12 pm, lore...@alussinan.org (Francois Kahn) wrote:
>
> > I guess the mono mix for "Nashville Skyline" was just a fold-down
> > compared to the stereo version
>
> A fold down being..?

When you mix equally the left channel and the right channel into one
channel. That's how the last mono albums were released when stereo took
over.

Previously, the mixing engineer made a separate mix from the multitrack
recordings both in mono and in stereo. When mono was the most widespread
format, there was much more care put into the mono mix while the stereo
mix was an afterthought (just as a surround mix currently is). The
artist and the producer spent most of their time polishing the mono mix
and they even recorded overdubs in the last stages of mixing. That's why
it's often important to compare mono and stereo before choosing one
version when you reissue an album.

A striking example of it is the first Pink Floyd album, the one that was
reissued a few weeks ago as a double CD (mono+stereo). There aren't only
differences in the mix (an instrument more upfront, different reverb,
longer tracks, etc.) but there's also one or two tracks where there's a
keyboard part simply missing in the stereo version. Then there's the
single/album mix stuff but it's a different matter.

There's no such thing with Dylan's albums but all his recordings up to
"Blonde on Blonde" were mostly done for mono. As the current releases of
"Bringing It All Back Home" and "Blonde on Blonde" are tastefully
remixed, they convey most of the impact of the original mono mix with
the benefit of stereo definition. "John Wesley Harding" sonds slightly
different in mono (and the master tapes are in better shape) but the
mono "Nashville Skyline" would just be the same Nashville Skyline you
know and love played in mono.

>
> > Now, if the vinyl could be available in Paris...
>
> I can get a copy to you if you want one. It sounds great, although
> not that cheap at £14.99

Vinyl, just like food, is the kind of stuff that I prefer to pick
myself!

Martin

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Sep 25, 2007, 4:39:18 PM9/25/07
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On Sep 25, 7:07 pm, lore...@alussinan.org (Francois Kahn) wrote:

> When you mix equally the left channel and the right channel into one
> channel. That's how the last mono albums were released when stereo took
> over

Thanks for that, Francois. The Electric Dylan site has all the info
one might need in this respect for Blonde on Blonde - there are plenty
of differences between the various editions, like instruments moving
around and occasionally disappearing altogether. I've had a response
from Sundazed to that, as you say, the stereo version is the 'true'
mix of Nashville Skyline. Having compared this new stereo one with my
UK mono LP, the mono sounds clearer and more hard hitting somehow.
The stereo is very nice, but a little boomy in comparison. Now I've
remembered that the first copy I had was a UK mono LP, which is how I
got to know the album, so I guess that's the one that sounds 'right'
to me

geminij...@yahoo.com

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Sep 25, 2007, 9:35:01 PM9/25/07
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You make me want to replace my broken record player!
-GJ

Rachel

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Sep 25, 2007, 9:41:28 PM9/25/07
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You make me want to replace my broken record player!

-GJ-

Zuke

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Sep 25, 2007, 11:10:03 PM9/25/07
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That's easily done as most electronic shops are selling turntables
again. The most fun I enjoy about vinyl is going through the
thrift shops and finding different music.

There is also a lot of new stuff being put out on vinyl. I am
glad I never really stopped buying it though I don't consider
myself an audiophile. I just always liked the packaging way
more than CD's or Cassettes though it is sometimes a pain to
change the record every 20 minutes or so.

Martin

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Sep 26, 2007, 4:49:22 AM9/26/07
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On Sep 26, 4:10 am, Zuke <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> There is also a lot of new stuff being put out on vinyl. I am
> glad I never really stopped buying it though I don't consider
> myself an audiophile. I just always liked the packaging way
> more than CD's or Cassettes though it is sometimes a pain to
> change the record every 20 minutes or so

It's only a pain if you have much time to sit down and listen to an
entire record very often. I put something on, and within 5 minutes
I'm having to be in another room, cleaning the fridge or sorting out
toys. I sold off almost all my LPs in the 90's, because I genuinely
thought the time was coming when even my own turntable was gonna be
against the law, but a few years ago, when I realised my fears were
unfounded, I remembered how much I loved the feel, look and even the
sound of vinyl, and began buying back stuff I used to have (minus
albums I feel I've grown out of). I've been very strict with what I
buy though, and don't buy anything that isn't sealed or in practically
new condition. I too have a real love of the sleeves and artwork of
records, and I decided that the only aspect of a jewel case CD I like
is the sound, so I made copies of practically all of them and sold
them to raise more funds for vinyl. What's really refreshing about
vinyl is when you hear a 30 year old album - even a 30 year old
edition of it - that sounds better than the current remastered CD.
Once your ears are tuned back to vinyl, a lot of new CDs sound boomy
and processed. Obviously there are plenty of new CDs that sound great
- the current versions of BIABH and BOB are good examples as Francois
mentioned - but when I'm at a record fair or just browsing in shops I
stick mostly to the record racks. Anyone who was born before about
1985 would have grown up with vinyl, and I think switching completely
to CDs can make you feel like part of your life is missing. Records
are like a comfort blankets for grown ups. And you're right, Zuke
there's loads of stuff coming out on vinyl again, and I frequently see
teenagers buying records (including Bob Dylan records as a matter of
fact)


geminij...@yahoo.com

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Sep 26, 2007, 7:04:37 AM9/26/07
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-GJ


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