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Barbara

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Jun 16, 2007, 4:35:13 AM6/16/07
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This is my official sorry to all those who haven't seen it in between posts.
Yes, my name calling to Don was over the top.
I apologize, Don. And if I have offended anyone else, I apologize to you.
Sorry for such a commotion of what started out as a joyouse event.
Take care,
Barbara


Jumbo

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Jun 16, 2007, 6:04:22 AM6/16/07
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I hope you had a great week with your son, Barbara. And I admire you
for making the above apology. Always remember what a tiny thing rmd is
in the scheme of things :)


really real

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Jun 16, 2007, 8:45:31 AM6/16/07
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>> This is my official sorry to all those who haven't seen it in between posts.
>> Yes, my name calling to Don was over the top.
>> I apologize, Don. And if I have offended anyone else, I apologize to you.
>> Sorry for such a commotion of what started out as a joyouse event.
>> Take care,
>> Barbara


Barbara, I appreciate the apology, especially if it means that I'm not
really rmd's worst troll and that you don't really want me to leave rmd.
And please don't forget that I like to be called by my rmd name.

Besides, all your anger wasn't really your fault. You were set up by
that guy who tried to cast shame on all the folks in rmd who didn't
respond to your joyous event post.

You were also set up by Not Dark Yet who used, as an excuse for
attacking my post on Norrie, the idea that I am cruel to you. I've said
this before, and I'll say it again. I am not being cruel, just because I
argue against some of the things you say.

Now please enjoy your reunion with your son and don't worry about these
minor piffles that occur in newsgroups.

Gemini Jackson

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Jun 16, 2007, 8:08:41 PM6/16/07
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:45:31 GMT, really real <reall...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

>
>>> This is my official sorry to all those who haven't seen it in between posts.
>>> Yes, my name calling to Don was over the top.
>>> I apologize, Don. And if I have offended anyone else, I apologize to you.
>>> Sorry for such a commotion of what started out as a joyouse event.
>>> Take care,
>>> Barbara
>
>
>Barbara, I appreciate the apology, especially if it means that I'm not
>really rmd's worst troll and that you don't really want me to leave rmd.
>And please don't forget that I like to be called by my rmd name.

So. How does everyone seem to know your real name? Just wondering.

>
>Besides, all your anger wasn't really your fault. You were set up by
>that guy who tried to cast shame on all the folks in rmd who didn't
>respond to your joyous event post.
>
>You were also set up by Not Dark Yet who used, as an excuse for
>attacking my post on Norrie, the idea that I am cruel to you. I've said
>this before, and I'll say it again. I am not being cruel, just because I
>argue against some of the things you say.
>
>Now please enjoy your reunion with your son and don't worry about these
>minor piffles that occur in newsgroups.

~GJ~

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Gemini Jackson

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Jun 16, 2007, 8:43:35 PM6/16/07
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 00:17:23 GMT, poisoned rose
<shootingfi...@aol.com> wrote:

>Gemini Jackson <geminij...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> So. How does everyone seem to know your real name? Just wondering.
>

>Because he posted with it on this very newsgroup for a few YEARS.
>But would like to pretend that never happened now.

Ironic he replaced it with his current choice. ie: Something not
real.

Not that I care mind you.
~GJ~

really real

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Jun 16, 2007, 9:48:30 PM6/16/07
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>
> Ironic he replaced it with his current choice. ie: Something not
> real.


I changed my name because someone said, in rmd, only an idiot would use
their real name in a newsgroup.

My real name wasn't so real anyway. It was sort of my slave name. It was
the name chosen by my grandfather to deal with the American immigration
authorities, when he came to America to escape the pogroms. I identify
with Muhammad Ali in my attempt to change my name in rmd. There are a
lot of Howard Cosell here who don't want to accept my name change, but
even Howard came around eventually

Martin

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Jun 17, 2007, 4:17:23 AM6/17/07
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On Jun 17, 2:48 am, really real <reallyr...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> I changed my name because someone said, in rmd, only an idiot would use
> their real name in a newsgroup

I'd go along with that

Gemini Jackson

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Jun 17, 2007, 11:21:01 AM6/17/07
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:48:30 GMT, really real <reall...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

>
>>

>> Ironic he replaced it with his current choice. ie: Something not
>> real.
>
>
>I changed my name because someone said, in rmd, only an idiot would use
>their real name in a newsgroup.

People do tend to speak their mind more freely under the cloak of
anonymity.

>
>My real name wasn't so real anyway. It was sort of my slave name. It was
>the name chosen by my grandfather to deal with the American immigration
>authorities, when he came to America to escape the pogroms.

Those bastards. I never knew we invaded Canada. I hear that if it
wasn't for Benedict Arnold getting shot (before he switched sides)
Canada would've been part of America.

>I identify
>with Muhammad Ali in my attempt to change my name in rmd. There are a
>lot of Howard Cosell here who don't want to accept my name change, but
>even Howard came around eventually

And here I was thinking that you were being referred to as 'Don'
because of your mafia connections.

Very well, RR to me, you are.


~GJ~

beppe

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Jun 19, 2007, 10:34:40 AM6/19/07
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"Martin" <martin...@yahoo.co.uk> ha scritto nel messaggio
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Well, for all you care, I've always been thinking the exact opposite.
Nicks are for trolls and morphers.
Why hiding your real status if not for malign purposes?
Fear of being stalked?
Really?
mmmmm....it doesn't seem realistic, to me.
If you never attack, you'll never be harrassed, imo.
Unless you bump into *real* weirdos, but this might happen everyday in real
life, mightn't it?
And, disregarding present posters (most of them are excellent even though
they hide behind nicks) don't you think it's meaningful that all the best
posters back in the good old days, form Peter Stone Brown to John Howells,
from John Lettiere to Alan Fraser, from Maureen Leblanc to Patricia
Jungwirth were people NOT hiding behind nicknames?

--
Beppe

www.giuseppegazerro.com
www.myspace.com/gazerro
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gazerro


Preacher_dudley

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Jun 19, 2007, 11:42:42 AM6/19/07
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On Jun 16, 9:48 pm, really real <reallyr...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> I changed my name because someone said, in rmd, only an idiot would use
> their real name in a newsgroup.
>

Cool. Of course the feller who wrote that was so vile & depraved in
nature that an attempt has been made to expunge all of his posts from
the record. Unsuccessfully.

}
> Pathetic And Paranoid is when you attack someone's character on
> trivial grounds while not only hiding under a screen name but a false
> email address.

Oh Please!

Only an idiot displays their full name and email address on Usenet.
That's
not even a valid point.

When you have something intelligent to say, Ken......jump in.
{

> My real name wasn't so real anyway. It was sort of my slave name. It was
> the name chosen by my grandfather to deal with the American immigration
> authorities, when he came to America to escape the pogroms. I identify
> with Muhammad Ali in my attempt to change my name in rmd. There are a
> lot of Howard Cosell here who don't want to accept my name change, but
> even Howard came around eventually

Just fer the record... Howard Cosell's birth name was Howard William
Cohen, which of course might itself have been a "slave name" as you
have it.

Furthur for the record, Cosell was the first & for quite a while the
only media person to address Muhammed Ali publicly by that name. Of
course it was a fascinating relationship the two had, mutual
selfPromotion, but hey. I sense a sincerity underlying those
exchanges.

& who will ever forget "Ladies and gentlemen, the Bronx is burning"?
Probably a lot of people have already.

Sincerely,
Robert dudley Dickinson

Preacher_dudley

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Jun 19, 2007, 11:53:10 AM6/19/07
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}
Never apologize for showing feeling. When you do so, you apologize for
truth.
--Benjamin Disraeli
{

}
I will never apologize for the United States of America ? I don't care
what the facts are.
--George Bush, Newsweek, August 15, 1989
{

}
Never apologise, never explain.
--Immanuel Kant??? ((but Natalie Wood))
{

Cheers
rdd

Gemini Jackson

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Jun 19, 2007, 12:10:34 PM6/19/07
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:34:40 +0200, "beppe" <giusepp...@tin.it>
wrote:

>
>"Martin" <martin...@yahoo.co.uk> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:1182068243....@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 17, 2:48 am, really real <reallyr...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I changed my name because someone said, in rmd, only an idiot would use
>>> their real name in a newsgroup
>>
>> I'd go along with that
>
>
>Well, for all you care, I've always been thinking the exact opposite.
>Nicks are for trolls and morphers.
>Why hiding your real status if not for malign purposes?
>Fear of being stalked?
>Really?

Perhaps I should begin using my real name, Scorpio Jackson.
~GJ~

really real

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Jun 19, 2007, 12:52:59 PM6/19/07
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> Nicks are for trolls and morphers.
> Why hiding your real status if not for malign purposes?
> Fear of being stalked?
> Really?
> mmmmm....it doesn't seem realistic, to me.
> If you never attack, you'll never be harrassed, imo.
> Unless you bump into *real* weirdos, but this might happen everyday in real
> life, mightn't it?
> And, disregarding present posters (most of them are excellent even though
> they hide behind nicks) don't you think it's meaningful that all the best
> posters back in the good old days, form Peter Stone Brown to John Howells,
> from John Lettiere to Alan Fraser, from Maureen Leblanc to Patricia
> Jungwirth were people NOT hiding behind nicknames?


All these people that you mention,
Yes, I know them, they're quite gone

I like the way, beppe, you've conveniently forgotten when a friend of
mine in rmd, and an ex-friend of yours, changed his name to a nickname,
and I had to explain to you that he did so because he was threatened by
someone here. I had a similar threat from this person.

Barbara

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Jun 19, 2007, 1:48:02 PM6/19/07
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"beppe" <giusepp...@tin.it> wrote in message
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I go along with that. Never saw the big fear, or whatever you would call it
in using your real name, but I do disagree that you can be attacked without
harassing someone.


Barbara

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Jun 19, 2007, 1:54:31 PM6/19/07
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"Preacher_dudley" <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote in message
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Hmm, I am a peace loving person by nature, really.
I do like that quote. And I was showing feeling. I was extremely mad and
would really like to forget about the whole thing. Too bad it happened the
way it did and I also wrote that official one because I did feel bad about
name calling and it seemed even though in other posts I was saying sorry,
some people weren't listening.
Cheers to you rdd, you're a good man! Here's to you!! :)


Barbara

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Jun 19, 2007, 1:56:02 PM6/19/07
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"Gemini Jackson" <geminij...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Maybe I should use my real name too.
But Barbara is the feminine of Bob, I kind of like it.


beppe

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Jun 19, 2007, 1:59:40 PM6/19/07
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"really real" <reall...@shaw.ca> ha scritto nel messaggio
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No, I hadn't forgotten, RR.
I perfecly remembered it.
Re-read my post considering this and you've got my opinion.

And when you add *conveniently* to your assumption (malign?) that I had
forgotten Mr. J. (an ill feeling per se), the picture becomes absolutely
complete.
In reference to other threads, too.

In the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

Preacher_dudley

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Jun 19, 2007, 2:02:52 PM6/19/07
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On Jun 19, 1:54 pm, "Barbara" <barbarac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Cheers to you rdd, you're a good man! Here's to you!! :)-

NOT. but i try to play one on the innernet.

Here's to best of us,
& here's to the rest of us.

Just one kind favour i ask of you... don't spill any squid ink on my
white velour sofa.

(well, i mean there have to be SOME rules.)

ThanksInAdvance,
rdd

Just Walkin'

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Jun 19, 2007, 8:07:17 PM6/19/07
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On Jun 19, 10:42 am, Preacher_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:
> Only an idiot displays their full name and email address on Usenet.
> That's
> not even a valid point.
>
> When you have something intelligent to say, Ken......jump in.
If ya' meant me, Uncle Prez Preacher, then here's my story:

I started out using my real name on RMD, but then all my posts
starting turning up on Google's general search along with my
professional references and yielded a firestorm of complaints from
folks who didn't want their names turning up in engineering software
web searches mirrored somewhere in Asia, especially when the thread
contains four letter words posted in responses by evil, horny or just
plain disruptive posters. Sensitive to the concerns of my legitimate
group-mates, I changed it to an abbreviated version of my real name
but after a few harrowing calls was inspired to change it again to an
assumed name to fool the Angel of Death. That selected pseudonym got
trashed by some folks around here who hated it so I changed it yet a
third time, this time to a phrase from one of Bob's best latter day
songs and one that definitely fits. All I can say now is that no one
complains, the Google searches are clean and that pesky ol' angel is
flying' over someone else's house tonight...

Now what can we do about this A. Crimony character who keeps coming
around? Ain't this place supposed to have collegial atmosphere
reflecting our common interests in one of the literary titans of our
time? I've an idea: Next time it happens, let's circle our wagons!

What say you, Gramps? Time for a pow-wow?

Martin

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Jun 19, 2007, 8:08:40 PM6/19/07
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I've just been sick

Barbara

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Jun 19, 2007, 8:46:04 PM6/19/07
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"Just Walkin'" <kens...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Now, I think I remember who you are. lol
And I was even thinking what happened to that fellow, nice guy. That's kind
of funny(at least to me)

Just Walkin'

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Jun 19, 2007, 11:23:43 PM6/19/07
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On Jun 19, 7:46 pm, "Barbara" <barbarac...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Now, I think I remember who you are. lol
> And I was even thinking what happened to that fellow, nice guy. That's kind
> of funny(at least to me)

Hey there Barbara!

I thought you knew all along; is this good or bad?

Barbara

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Jun 20, 2007, 1:28:45 AM6/20/07
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"Just Walkin'" <kens...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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No I didn't know all along, silly me. It's not bad at all, by no means, hey,
I called you a nice guy! :)


President_dudley

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Jun 20, 2007, 11:31:53 AM6/20/07
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On Jun 19, 8:07 pm, Just Walkin' <kensh...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 10:42 am, Preacher_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:
> > Only an idiot displays their full name and email address on Usenet.
> > That's
> > not even a valid point.
>
> > When you have something intelligent to say, Ken......jump in.
>
> If ya' meant me, Uncle Prez Preacher,

Not specifically, Just. The idiot quote is from a fellow who
frequented this space; it's from '03. He was not a nice person. If
you're that guy, then it's proof of the possibility of redemption. I
believe yer a different Ken, too.

> then here's my story:
>
> I started out using my real name on RMD, but then all my posts
> starting turning up on Google's general search along with my
> professional references and yielded a firestorm of complaints from
> folks who didn't want their names turning up in engineering software
> web searches

& that sure makes sense. I thnik Google, like money, changes
everything. This is not our daddy's UseNet.

Myself i kind of like thinking that someday my grandkidz can google
this old fart & find out what he was at.

>
> Now what can we do about this A. Crimony character who keeps coming
> around? Ain't this place supposed to have collegial atmosphere
> reflecting our common interests in one of the literary titans of our
> time? I've an idea: Next time it happens, let's circle our wagons!
>

Dunno. Probably this stuff ebbs & flows, & even at its worst this
place is a fur site better than many. By the way, did i ever tell you
i thnik yer a clueless jerk?

> What say you, Gramps? Time for a pow-wow?

I'd be in it for the teepee creepin' if nothin' else.

K, got go mix up some aural medicine... tryin' to redeem my sorry ass.

Best,
dudley

Just Walkin'

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Jun 20, 2007, 11:53:09 AM6/20/07
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On Jun 20, 9:31 am, President_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:
>
> Dunno. Probably this stuff ebbs & flows, & even at its worst this
> place is a fur site better than many. By the way, did i ever tell you
> i thnik yer a clueless jerk?
No, you haven't. Why, you think it's time?

President_dudley

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Jun 20, 2007, 12:04:24 PM6/20/07
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missed the "insert winking smiley emoticon here", buddy.

J Buck

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Jun 20, 2007, 8:00:08 PM6/20/07
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<Never apologise, never explain.
--Immanuel Kant??? ((but Natalie Wood))>

I believe Katherine Hepburn said that.

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