Katie Sagal in Dylan's band
Tim Herrick
rules, was always known as also singing back up on Self Portrait, and in fact is
listed in the credits of that album. Although, it has never been clear if
Segal and Dylan were ever in the studio at the same time and some say that most of
non dylan stuff on the studio tracks were over dubs by robert johnston.
Anyway, she has some new record out, and in an article about it in he New
York Daily News, the following paragraph appeared:
For more than five years in the mid-1970s, Sagal sang backup for Midler as
one of "The Harlettes." In 1978, she sang back-up for Dylan - until he fired
half the band and the singers, including Sagal, a week before the tour.
This does not compute. Self portrait was in 68. Sagal was supposed to be on
the "street Legal" tour implied by the 1978, but was not on the record. I
thought the tour was basically the band on the record.
And, the sentence staets, in 1978 she sang back up for dylan? where? not on
street legal. and since she was not in desire/RTR or the slow train stuff, the
year has to be off by more than a coupla three years. Yet, even it's a typo,
in other words, it shuold be 1968, which is true, she did sing back up then,
there was no tour of cousre in that year, so no half the band fired. notice, the
sentence did not read, he cancelled a tour, which would be some interesting
news to dylan fans cause there is no other evidence that dylan wanted to form a
band and tour in that year, but the sentence implies that there was a tour
but sagal with the rest of half the band were nixed.
S;oppy writing, sloppy reporting, sloppy fact checking. The feature writer
here just wrote somethign soley based on an interview, and either he got it
wrong or he simply took sagal's word and she got it wrong, and of course the
editor was asleep at the switch.
Dylan not touring until 74, Sagal singing on self protrait but not street
legal, in the scheme of things, minor details but in fact are well known and
verifable details.
Unless the scholars here have other insight to add, i simply have another
reason why i mainly read the new york daily news for the baseball coverage, LETS
GO METS!
Jperdue4
Good questions but shouldnt you send this to the author or editor of the
article?
Jonp
Jim & Gail
Self Portrait was 1968???
Am I on Candid Camera or something?
Try doing some fact-checking of your own.
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John Howells
Katey Sagal (not Segal) doesn't appear on Self Portrait, as far as
I can tell. I don't see her name listed in the credits. Besides,
in 1969 she would have been 15 years old. Not too likely that she
would be singing backup in Nashville studios at that age, not to
mention the fact that she was probably still going to High School
in Hollywood at that time. She is the daughter of film director
Boris Sagal.
Next, the 1978 band that was fired before the tour was not the same
group of musicians he eventually settled on. The first few rehearsals,
which appear on the fan-circulated Rundown Rehearsal Tapes, feature
different musicians, including guitarist Jesse Ed Davis. Sagal is
one of the backup singers in that mix, and for whatever reason,
Dylan changed his mind and picked different musicians and singers.
I guess he wanted to go for a different sound.
There is not really all that much wrong with the article you posted.
It is essentially correct.
--
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andy
> rules, was always known as also singing back up on Self Portrait, and in
fact is
> listed in the credits of that album.
No she isnt
Although, it has never been clear if
> Segal and Dylan were ever in the studio at the same time and some say that
most of
> non dylan stuff on the studio tracks were over dubs by robert johnston.
>
> Anyway, she has some new record out, and in an article about it in he New
> York Daily News, the following paragraph appeared:
>
>
> For more than five years in the mid-1970s, Sagal sang backup for Midler as
> one of "The Harlettes." In 1978, she sang back-up for Dylan - until he
fired
> half the band and the singers, including Sagal, a week before the tour.
>
> This does not compute. Self portrait was in 68.
No it wasnt
Cpyle4bob
*Katey Sagal (not Segal) doesn't appear on Self Portrait,
*in 1969 she would have been 15 years old.
*She is the daughter of film director Boris Sagal.
*1978 band that was fired before the tour was not the same group of musicians
he eventually settled on. The first few rehearsals, which appear on the
one of the backup singers in that mix
>>
Jesse Jones
> fired half the band and the singers, including Sagal, a week before the tour.
Olof reports she was backing up Dylan in the early rehearsals for the
1978 world tour:
http://www.bjorner.com/DSN03550%201977%20sessions.htm#DSN3560
http://www.bjorner.com/DSN03570%201978%20Early%20rehearsals.htm#DSN03570
http://www.bjorner.com/DSN03570%201978%20Early%20rehearsals.htm#DSN03580
http://www.bjorner.com/DSN03570%201978%20Early%20rehearsals.htm#DSN03600
http://www.bjorner.com/DSN03570%201978%20Early%20rehearsals.htm#DSN03605
http://www.bjorner.com/DSN03570%201978%20Early%20rehearsals.htm#DSN03610
http://www.bjorner.com/DSN03570%201978%20Early%20rehearsals.htm#DSN03620
SunDog
> GO METS!
Phillies
SunDog
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No to mention that Self Portrait was recorded in 1969 and 1970, not 1968 and
that Street Legal was recorded during a break in the 78 World Tour, not
before it and changes were made to the band as well as the backup singers
during that time.
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Hellenason7
J Buck
Lucky Bob (assuming she wasn't typecast in 'Married With Children')
Tim Herrick
LIST...@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU writes:
> Katie Sagal in Dylan's band
I have been living a lie all this time, beleiving that the woman from married
with children sang on self portrait. I apologize to one and all.
Mike Lewis
> <I think she mainly went down on Bob>
>
> Lucky Bob (assuming she wasn't typecast in 'Married With Children')
Now that we're on to the subject of sex and Katie Sagal, I can relate
a true story that happened in Toronto about 10 years ago. A guy and
his girlfriend were sitting around and got into an argument about who
was hotter, Peg or Christina Applegate's character. One thing led to
another, they started throwing punches, then it turned into a knife
fight. The guy almost severed the woman's arm off (it may have been
the other way around). It was all over the papers here.
rwalker
> Okay, Katie Sagal, sit com star of married with children and now 8 simple
> rules, was always known
snip
Doing a little googling, I turned up this:
http://www.bundyology.com/ks.html
Music Career
She was born into a show business family and grew up in Los Angeles.
Katey is a singer/songwriter who began singing at the age of five.
From fall 1971 to June 1972 she took singing and acting classes at the
California Institute of the Arts in Valencia, CA. Her classmates
included Paul "Pee-wee Herman" Reubens and David Hasselhoff. In 1973,
she hit the road for one year with a part in a musical production of
Shakespeare's "Two Gentlemen of Verona." Her roommate on tour was
Joanna Kerns. Back home she had to earn money as a singing waitress at
"The Great American Food and Beverage Company" restaurant. With
co-workers with Henry Medross, Carolyn Ray, Jimmy Lott and Alan Miles
she started the band "The Group with no Name". One night, Katey waited
on Gene Simmons and his 70s rock band Kiss. In a friendly conversation
she mentioned her band and one band member turned out to be one of
Simmons' former college classmates. This led to an introduction with
record executive Neill Bogard who eventually signed Sagal and her
group for Casablanca Records. They released the 1976 album "Moon over
Brooklyn" which wasn't a success, though. However, Simmons chose her
as a back-up singer for his solo album. She has also worked as a
back-up singer for Etta James, Tanya Tucker, Carolyn Ray, Mark
Goldenberg, Paolinho da Costa and others. Katey even rehearsed for six
weeks to take part in Bob Dylan's 1978 tour, but she was fired a
couple of days before the tour started.
Some specific examples of her back-up work:
On Gene Simmons' 1978 album "Gene Simmons" (the Kiss bassist) she's
credited as "Kate Sagall"
On Molly Hatchet's 1981 album "Take no Prisoners" she's credited as
"Katy Sagal"
On Bette Midler's 1983 album "No Frills", she's credited as "Katie
Sagal" for the song "Soda and a Souvenir"
On Olivia Newton-John's 1985 album "Soul Kiss"
On David Della Rossa's 1987 album "Nothin' but Trouble"
Katey performed with Bette Midler as one of the "Harlettes" in the
late 70s and early 80s. She joined the group for Bette's fall 1978
world tour. Bette had wanted Charlotte Crossley (who played Peggy's
friend Louise in 206, 212 and 403), Ula Hedwig, and Sharon Redd (the
three that that served as her Harlettes during the 1977 "Club Tour"),
but since their trio "Formerly of the Harlettes" was doing so well,
they declined. So, for the first time, Bette had to advertise for
three new ladies to become the newest members of Bette's backup trio.
248 women (plus two man in drag) answered the ad placed in the trade
paper "The Hollywood Reporter". From this group, three women were
eventually chosen: Linda Hart, Frannie Eisenberg, and Katey Sagal (she
called herself Katie at that time). The three soon started a series of
grueling 12 hour rehearsals to prepare for this tour; the only thing
that kept the three going was the knowledge that Bette was working
equally as hard as they were, and that she often was still working
after they had gone home at midnight. The tour started out in Seattle,
Washington. There were ten concerts at London's Palladium, and the
tour stopped at Stockholm, Copenhagen, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Munich,
Paris, Amsterdam, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane and
other cities. The tour ended on November 27, 1978, in Sydney. Katey
decided to leave the Harlettes before Bette's 1979 "Divine Madness"
tour. She was replaced by Paulette McWilliams.
Katey joined the Harlettes again for Bette Midler's 1982/83 "De Tour".
Her co-Harlettes were Ula Hedwig (again) and Linda Hart. "De Tour"
premiered on December 6, 1982 at the Universal Amphitheater, Los
Angeles. One number was called "Delores DeLago", where Bette and her
Harlettes (playing the "DeLago Sisters") were dressed in mermaid
costumes and driving around in wheelchairs. At the New Year's Eve
show, Bette was accompanied by Barry Manilow who was dressed as an old
man representing "1982" while Bette was dressed as "baby 1983". The
tour ended in the Radio City Music Hall, New York City, on March 21,
1983. Bette enjoyed the tour so much she decided to take it back out
again in the summer until late fall. She brought a whole new set of
Harlettes, though. The concert movie "Art or Bust" was filmed on this
second "De Tour". The three Harlettes of the first "De Tour" performed
background vocals on Bette Midler's 1983 album "No Frills" on the song
"Soda and a Souvenir". After that, Katey focussed on her TV career.
During that time, she also worked for movie soundtracks:
"Plain Clothes" (1988) with Arliss Howard: "Ain't Got Nobody", a duet
with Billy Sherwood
"Loose Cannons" (1990) with Gene Hackman & Dan Aykroyd: "Loose
Cannons" which appears over the end credits
Katey released her first CD, "Well" on April 19, 1994; Virgin Records
CD/CT US 39543. It includes the song "Can't Hurry the Harvest". She
continues to perform in nightclubs throughout the Los Angeles area.
Recently she recorded the duet "Suddenly Seymour" with Scott Dreier.
Check out Scott's website.