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James Zadok
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Stephen King: Why Bob Dylan Deserves the Nobel Prize
Author discusses his favorite Dylan songs – and dismantles critics who say he doesn't deserve the honor
Around the time he was working on The Shining, Stephen King saw Bob Dylan in concert for the first time when the Rolling Thunder Revue landed in Maine.
I must have been 14 the first time I heard Bob Dylan. I was sitting in the back of a car going home from a movie. This is in rural Maine back when AM radio was big. There was a guy on WBZ radio out of Boston and he had a show called The Night Express and played a lot of off-the-wall stuff. He played "Subterranean Homesick Blues." Hearing it was like being electrified. It was like this pressurized dump of lyrics and images.
"The only clear memory I have of that night is Dylan wearing the white face makeup," King says of the 1975 show. "And that lady [Scarlet Rivera] with him that used to play violin." King has remained a huge Dylan fan; when the news hit that Dylan had won the Nobel Prize in Literature, the author says he was "over the moon." "I read it over my breakfast," he says. "It's like remembering where you were when Kennedy was shot." Ahead of the Nobel ceremony on Saturday, we spoke with King about the impact Dylan has made on him.
The line that knocked me out was "The pump don't work since the vandals took the handle." I mean, he just nailed it. The stuff that moved me wasn't the folk stuff that had stories, like "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" or "Blowin' in the Wind" or "Masters of War." But "Subterranean Homesick Blues" was like poetry in the sense that it didn't have a narrative line. What it did was peel that away and leave you with pure emotion. It lifted you up.
There's so many great songs. The one I kept going back to was "Shelter From the Storm." That line "ravaged in the corn" – can you imagine that on a record? It's just a gorgeous line. And that refrain always struck me as sort of mystic: "Come in, she said/I'll give you shelter from the storm." That incremental repetition – I get goosebumps just thinking about it.
Also on Blood on the Tracks is "Tangled Up in Blue.” I just quoted it in an essay I wrote about going to college in the Sixties. The song came out long after I was through college, but when I heard it, I always thought he was talking about how far a distance we go from where we started: "Some are mathematicians/Some are carpenters wives/Don't know how it all got started/I don't know what they're doin' with their lives."
I must have been 14 the first time I heard Bob Dylan. I was sitting in the back of a car going home from a movie. This is in rural Maine back when AM radio was big. There was a guy on WBZ radio out of Boston and he had a show called The Night Express and played a lot of off-the-wall stuff. He played "Subterranean Homesick Blues." Hearing it was like being electrified. It was like this pressurized dump of lyrics and images.
The line that knocked me out was "The pump don't work since the vandals took the handle." I mean, he just nailed it. The stuff that moved me wasn't the folk stuff that had stories, like "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" or "Blowin' in the Wind" or "Masters of War." But "Subterranean Homesick Blues" was like poetry in the sense that it didn't have a narrative line. What it did was peel that away and leave you with pure emotion. It lifted you up.
There's so many great songs. The one I kept going back to was "Shelter From the Storm." That line "ravaged in the corn" – can you imagine that on a record? It's just a gorgeous line. And that refrain always struck me as sort of mystic: "Come in, she said/I'll give you shelter from the storm." That incremental repetition – I get goosebumps just thinking about it.
Also on Blood on the Tracks is "Tangled Up in Blue.” I just quoted it in an essay I wrote about going to college in the Sixties. The song came out long after I was through college, but when I heard it, I always thought he was talking about how far a distance we go from where we started: "Some are mathematicians/Some are carpenters wives/Don't know how it all got started/I don't know what they're doin' with their lives."
There's an extended version of Simon and Garfunkel's "The Boxer" with the line "After changes upon changes we are more or less the same." It's what pop music does. And I would argue that without Dylan, Paul Simon maybe ends up in the Brill Building, writing songs like "Hey Schoolgirl" like he did in the beginning. Dylan opened the door for a lot of people.
I'll tell you another song I've always loved: "Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again." The line that always stuck with me was, "Your debutante just knows what you need/But I know what you want." I've played "Desolation Row" over and over and over again. I've heard people say, "Well, it's third-rate T.S. Eliot." Sorry, it's its own thing. I can think of a lot of artists, like the Kinks and Van Morrison, where I like their early stuff, but then it peters off into something that feels repetitive or self-imitative. Dylan never made me feel that way. The stuff he's doing now, like the Christmas album and the Frank Sinatra stuff, I'm like, "OK, you've earned it. You can be a little indulgent if you want." But some of his later stuff has terrific power, like "Not Dark Yet."
I've never met Bob, but I had many conversations with my friend John Mellencamp about him. He said that Bob was at his house once and he was complaining about a toothache. I guess he doesn't go to the doctor or anything. He said, "Man, John, I got this terrible toothache. It's killing me." John said, "Well, I've got some Advil." And Bob gave him this long look and said, "You trying to get me hooked?"
People complaining about his Nobel either don't understand or it's just a plain old case of sour grapes. I've seen several literary writers who have turned their noses up at the Dylan thing, like Gary Shteyngart. Well, I've got news for you, Gary: There are a lot of deserving writers who have never gotten the Nobel Prize. And Gary Shteyngart will probably be one of them. That's no reflection on his work. You have to rise to the level of a Faulkner if you're an American.
My kids listen to Dylan, and so do my grandkids. That's three generations. That's real longevity and quality. Most people in pop music are like moths around a bug light; they circle for a while and then there's a bright flash and they're gone. Not Dylan.
Stephen King: Why Bob Dylan Deserves the Nobel Prize
Author discusses his favorite Dylan songs – and dismantles critics who say he doesn't deserve the honor
Around the time he was working on The Shining, Stephen King saw Bob Dylan in concert for the first time when the Rolling Thunder Revue landed in Maine.
I must have been 14 the first time I heard Bob Dylan. I was sitting in the back of a car going home from a movie. This is in rural Maine back when AM radio was big. There was a guy on WBZ radio out of Boston and he had a show called The Night Express and played a lot of off-the-wall stuff. He played "Subterranean Homesick Blues." Hearing it was like being electrified. It was like this pressurized dump of lyrics and images.
"The only clear memory I have of that night is Dylan wearing the white face makeup," King says of the 1975 show. "And that lady [Scarlet Rivera] with him that used to play violin." King has remained a huge Dylan fan; when the news hit that Dylan had won the Nobel Prize in Literature, the author says he was "over the moon." "I read it over my breakfast," he says. "It's like remembering where you were when Kennedy was shot." Ahead of the Nobel ceremony on Saturday, we spoke with King about the impact Dylan has made on him.
The line that knocked me out was "The pump don't work since the vandals took the handle." I mean, he just nailed it. The stuff that moved me wasn't the folk stuff that had stories, like "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" or "Blowin' in the Wind" or "Masters of War." But "Subterranean Homesick Blues" was like poetry in the sense that it didn't have a narrative line. What it did was peel that away and leave you with pure emotion. It lifted you up.
There's so many great songs. The one I kept going back to was "Shelter From the Storm." That line "ravaged in the corn" – can you imagine that on a record? It's just a gorgeous line. And that refrain always struck me as sort of mystic: "Come in, she said/I'll give you shelter from the storm." That incremental repetition – I get goosebumps just thinking about it.
Also on Blood on the Tracks is "Tangled Up in Blue.” I just quoted it in an essay I wrote about going to college in the Sixties. The song came out long after I was through college, but when I heard it, I always thought he was talking about how far a distance we go from where we started: "Some are mathematicians/Some are carpenters wives/Don't know how it all got started/I don't know what they're doin' with their lives."
I must have been 14 the first time I heard Bob Dylan. I was sitting in the back of a car going home from a movie. This is in rural Maine back when AM radio was big. There was a guy on WBZ radio out of Boston and he had a show called The Night Express and played a lot of off-the-wall stuff. He played "Subterranean Homesick Blues." Hearing it was like being electrified. It was like this pressurized dump of lyrics and images.
The line that knocked me out was "The pump don't work since the vandals took the handle." I mean, he just nailed it. The stuff that moved me wasn't the folk stuff that had stories, like "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" or "Blowin' in the Wind" or "Masters of War." But "Subterranean Homesick Blues" was like poetry in the sense that it didn't have a narrative line. What it did was peel that away and leave you with pure emotion. It lifted you up.
There's so many great songs. The one I kept going back to was "Shelter From the Storm." That line "ravaged in the corn" – can you imagine that on a record? It's just a gorgeous line. And that refrain always struck me as sort of mystic: "Come in, she said/I'll give you shelter from the storm." That incremental repetition – I get goosebumps just thinking about it.
Also on Blood on the Tracks is "Tangled Up in Blue.” I just quoted it in an essay I wrote about going to college in the Sixties. The song came out long after I was through college, but when I heard it, I always thought he was talking about how far a distance we go from where we started: "Some are mathematicians/Some are carpenters wives/Don't know how it all got started/I don't know what they're doin' with their lives."
There's an extended version of Simon and Garfunkel's "The Boxer" with the line "After changes upon changes we are more or less the same." It's what pop music does. And I would argue that without Dylan, Paul Simon maybe ends up in the Brill Building, writing songs like "Hey Schoolgirl" like he did in the beginning. Dylan opened the door for a lot of people.
I'll tell you another song I've always loved: "Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again." The line that always stuck with me was, "Your debutante just knows what you need/But I know what you want." I've played "Desolation Row" over and over and over again. I've heard people say, "Well, it's third-rate T.S. Eliot." Sorry, it's its own thing. I can think of a lot of artists, like the Kinks and Van Morrison, where I like their early stuff, but then it peters off into something that feels repetitive or self-imitative. Dylan never made me feel that way. The stuff he's doing now, like the Christmas album and the Frank Sinatra stuff, I'm like, "OK, you've earned it. You can be a little indulgent if you want." But some of his later stuff has terrific power, like "Not Dark Yet."
I've never met Bob, but I had many conversations with my friend John Mellencamp about him. He said that Bob was at his house once and he was complaining about a toothache. I guess he doesn't go to the doctor or anything. He said, "Man, John, I got this terrible toothache. It's killing me." John said, "Well, I've got some Advil." And Bob gave him this long look and said, "You trying to get me hooked?"
People complaining about his Nobel either don't understand or it's just a plain old case of sour grapes. I've seen several literary writers who have turned their noses up at the Dylan thing, like Gary Shteyngart. Well, I've got news for you, Gary: There are a lot of deserving writers who have never gotten the Nobel Prize. And Gary Shteyngart will probably be one of them. That's no reflection on his work. You have to rise to the level of a Faulkner if you're an American.
My kids listen to Dylan, and so do my grandkids. That's three generations. That's real longevity and quality. Most people in pop music are like moths around a bug light; they circle for a while and then there's a bright flash and they're gone. Not Dylan.
chris
Dec 7, 2016, 8:20:00 PM12/7/16
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thanks for sharing this. Stephen has been a great distraction of life for me since the mid 70's...I'm reading one of his works right now. And there is generally a Dylan reference in there somewhere in all his works which always makes me smile.
marcus
Dec 7, 2016, 8:50:52 PM12/7/16
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On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 7:56:35 PM UTC-5, James Zadok wrote:
> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/stephen-king-why-bob-dylan-deserves-the-nobel-prize-w453966
>
> Stephen King: Why Bob Dylan Deserves the Nobel Prize
> Author discusses his favorite Dylan songs – and dismantles critics who say he doesn't deserve the honor
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> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/stephen-king-why-bob-dylan-deserves-the-nobel-prize-w453966
>
> Stephen King: Why Bob Dylan Deserves the Nobel Prize
> Author discusses his favorite Dylan songs – and dismantles critics who say he doesn't deserve the honor
I'm not a big fan of King's, but I love his take on Dylan deserving the Prize.
Will Dockery
Dec 8, 2016, 3:06:12 AM12/8/16
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Very nice, kudos Mr. King.
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JD Chase
Dec 8, 2016, 9:59:59 AM12/8/16
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Thr only novel of SK that I've read is "The Dead Zone", which along with "A face in the crowd", presciently and uncannily predicts the rise of the demagogue, Donald Trump...
khematite
Dec 8, 2016, 1:14:33 PM12/8/16
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On Wednesday, 7 December 2016 19:56:35 UTC-5, James Zadok wrote:
> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/stephen-king-why-bob-dylan-deserves-the-nobel-prize-w453966
>
> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/stephen-king-why-bob-dylan-deserves-the-nobel-prize-w453966
>
> "People complaining about his Nobel either don't understand or it's just a plain old case of sour grapes. I've seen several literary writers who have turned their noses up at the Dylan thing, like Gary Shteyngart. Well, I've got news for you, Gary: There are a lot of deserving writers who have never gotten the Nobel Prize. And Gary Shteyngart will probably be one of them. That's no reflection on his work. You have to rise to the level of a Faulkner if you're an American."
I wonder how many of these American Nobel laureates in literature are seen as having risen to the level of a Faulkner. I would think that's a pretty high standard to meet.
1930 Sinclair Lewis
1936 Eugene O'Neill
1938 Pearl Buck
1948 T.S. Eliot
1949 William Faulkner
1954 Ernest Hemingway
1962 John Steinbeck
1976 Saul Bellow
1978 Isaac Bashevis Singer
1980 Czeslaw Milosz
1987 Joseph Brodsky
1993 Toni Morrison
2016 Bob Dylan
DianeE
Dec 8, 2016, 5:50:06 PM12/8/16
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"khematite" <khem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I read some book by Faulkner when I was in high school. The name of it
eludes me now. I did not understand a goddamn word of it. We had an "open
book test" on it and I--otherwise an A student, baby--failed miserably. I
think I got a 45 on the test. It was horrible. Never read another word of
Faulkner again.
DianeE
DianeE via Google
Dec 8, 2016, 8:39:28 PM12/8/16
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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 5:50:06 PM UTC-5, DianeE wrote:
> -------------
> I read some book by Faulkner when I was in high school. The name of it
> eludes me now.....
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> I read some book by Faulkner when I was in high school. The name of it
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(It was "Light In August." Just read the Wikipedia summary of the plot. WHAAAAAAAT?????? I'll bet the people who gave him the prize couldn't pass a test on it either.)
DianeE
khematite
Dec 8, 2016, 9:25:42 PM12/8/16
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But even then, anything one has to read because it's assigned starts off with a huge handicap in the mind of the reader. I read quite a lot of fiction as a kid, but almost always detested the stuff I was forced to read for English classes (exceptions: Sinclair Lewis' Arrowsmith and William Thackeray's Vanity Fair). I recall absolutely loathing George Eliot's Silas Marner and not exactly being enthralled by O.E. Rolvaag's Giants in the Earth.
But back then, a lot of us just accepted our lot in life--there was no sense of choice in the matter. High school was just one more thing that couldn't be cured, so had to be endured. But, as with you, I did suffer some scars in the form of authors I was never able to read again and never wanted to read again. Looking back at it now, some of them may well have deserved a second chance.
https://biblioklept.org/2009/02/11/william-faulkner-as-i-lay-dying-the-perils-of-assigned-reading-and-a-call-for-second-chances/
Willie
Dec 8, 2016, 10:31:21 PM12/8/16
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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 8:39:28 PM UTC-5, DianeE via Google wrote:
> (It was "Light In August."
I don't know if I could have followed it in high school, but, after not making it more than a few pages into "As I Lay Dying," "The Sound and the Fury," or "Absalom, Absalom!", at a friend's suggestion I recently tried "Light in August" and it caught on. It has a plot and characters I cared about. It even has a suspenseful chase scene. I'm surprised it hasn't been made into a movie. I confess that part of my exhilaration while reading it was thinking, wow, I'm actually following this.
> (It was "Light In August."
rplea...@gmail.com
Dec 9, 2016, 12:13:11 AM12/9/16
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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 8:39:28 PM UTC-5, DianeE via Google wrote:
Another one that I really like is "The Sound and the Fury". Oddly, his are the only works written in that then-modern style that appeal to me. It must be the subject matter. Things like Joyce's "Finnegan's Wake" and "Ulysses", for example, leave me cold.
JD Chase
Dec 9, 2016, 12:32:52 AM12/9/16
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Sometimes it can be rewarding to Reread books that you didn't understand or like in high school... For example, I just couldn't get into Virginia Woolf's "Mrs Dalloway" in 12th grade, it was incredibly daunting, and I never finished it... But when I gave it another go a few years ago, to my suprise, I really enjoyed it... Of course, it makes sense, when you think about it... None of us are the exact same people that we were in high school, so naturally we will be liable to not have the same opinions that we had then...
M. Rick
Dec 9, 2016, 6:19:11 AM12/9/16
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>"The line that knocked me out was "The pump don't work since the vandals took the handle." I mean, he just nailed it.
I guess he didn't nail it hard enough for Stephen King to remember the line.
DianeE
Dec 9, 2016, 8:22:11 AM12/9/16
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"JD Chase" <jdcha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That happened to me with "The Scarlet Letter." Didn't understand a word of
it in high school. Re-read it when I was a new mother and thought it was
wonderful. Because I was able to relate to it at that point. I'll *never*
be able to relate to something like "Moby Dick"!
DianeE
DianeE
Dec 9, 2016, 8:27:13 AM12/9/16
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Well, maybe I'll try "Go Down Moses" if the library has it. But I haven't
read fiction in many years, so it may not work.
DianeE
I do think high schools need to be a little more sensible about the novels
they assign in English classes. I would think that something by Sinclair
Lewis, Ernest Hemingway, or John Steinbeck--with a clearer, much more
straightforward narrative--would be much more appropriate at that level than
a Faulkner novel (except possibly for an AP class).
But even then, anything one has to read because it's assigned starts off
with a huge handicap in the mind of the reader. I read quite a lot of
fiction as a kid, but almost always detested the stuff I was forced to read
for English classes (exceptions: Sinclair Lewis' Arrowsmith and William
Thackeray's Vanity Fair). I recall absolutely loathing George Eliot's Silas
Marner and not exactly being enthralled by O.E. Rolvaag's Giants in the
Earth.
But back then, a lot of us just accepted our lot in life--there was no sense
of choice in the matter. High school was just one more thing that couldn't
be cured, so had to be endured. But, as with you, I did suffer some scars in
the form of authors I was never able to read again and never wanted to read
again. Looking back at it now, some of them may well have deserved a second
chance.
https://biblioklept.org/2009/02/11/william-faulkner-as-i-lay-dying-the-perils-of-assigned-reading-and-a-call-for-second-chances/
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they assign in English classes. I would think that something by Sinclair
Lewis, Ernest Hemingway, or John Steinbeck--with a clearer, much more
straightforward narrative--would be much more appropriate at that level than
a Faulkner novel (except possibly for an AP class).
But even then, anything one has to read because it's assigned starts off
with a huge handicap in the mind of the reader. I read quite a lot of
fiction as a kid, but almost always detested the stuff I was forced to read
for English classes (exceptions: Sinclair Lewis' Arrowsmith and William
Thackeray's Vanity Fair). I recall absolutely loathing George Eliot's Silas
Marner and not exactly being enthralled by O.E. Rolvaag's Giants in the
Earth.
But back then, a lot of us just accepted our lot in life--there was no sense
of choice in the matter. High school was just one more thing that couldn't
be cured, so had to be endured. But, as with you, I did suffer some scars in
the form of authors I was never able to read again and never wanted to read
again. Looking back at it now, some of them may well have deserved a second
chance.
https://biblioklept.org/2009/02/11/william-faulkner-as-i-lay-dying-the-perils-of-assigned-reading-and-a-call-for-second-chances/
Well, maybe I'll try "Go Down Moses" if the library has it. But I haven't
read fiction in many years, so it may not work.
DianeE
M. Rick
Dec 9, 2016, 1:05:20 PM12/9/16
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On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 5:27:13 AM UTC-8, DianeE wrote:
> Well, maybe I'll try "Go Down Moses" if the library has it. But I haven't read fiction in many years, so it may not work.
The post that began this thread is fiction. I could have typed out the same story and signed "Stephen King" to it, nobody would know the difference.
> Well, maybe I'll try "Go Down Moses" if the library has it. But I haven't read fiction in many years, so it may not work.
The other day I ran into Bob Dylan at the Vons in Malibu and he didn't look too good. "I've had a headache all day," he said. "That's real longevity," I remarked. "Why don't you buy some Advil?" "Because it's cheaper at CVS," he replied.
luisb...@aol.com
Dec 9, 2016, 3:35:54 PM12/9/16
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king and faulkner...two of my absolute faves and i've read much by both and enjoyed it, up to and including many deep cuts. wild palms, anyone? (his answer to To Have and Have Not). but i've far from devoured the entire corpus of either.
king has cited dylan on occasion--the title of one book, from a buick 6--and then a little epigram at the beginning of The STand, presumably referring to all the dead bodies inside the lincoln tunnel inside all the stopped cars. "i waited for you inside the frozen traffic."
but king's a major metal head so take it for what it's worth.
DianeE
Dec 9, 2016, 5:08:04 PM12/9/16
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"M. Rick" <insomn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 5:27:13 AM UTC-8, DianeE wrote:
>> Well, maybe I'll try "Go Down Moses" if the library has it. But I
>> haven't read fiction in many years, so it may not work.
>
> The post that began this thread is fiction. I could have typed out the
> same story and signed "Stephen King" to it, nobody would know the
> difference.
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>> Well, maybe I'll try "Go Down Moses" if the library has it. But I
>> haven't read fiction in many years, so it may not work.
>
> The post that began this thread is fiction. I could have typed out the
> same story and signed "Stephen King" to it, nobody would know the
> difference.
Okay, so when I said I haven't read fiction in many years....that was
fiction too.
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>
> The other day I ran into Bob Dylan at the Vons in Malibu and he didn't
> look too good. "I've had a headache all day," he said. "That's real
> longevity," I remarked. "Why don't you buy some Advil?" "Because it's
> cheaper at CVS," he replied.
>
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> The other day I ran into Bob Dylan at the Vons in Malibu and he didn't
> look too good. "I've had a headache all day," he said. "That's real
> longevity," I remarked. "Why don't you buy some Advil?" "Because it's
> cheaper at CVS," he replied.
>
Is "the Vons" a drugstore?
DEM
M. Rick
Dec 9, 2016, 9:03:31 PM12/9/16
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On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 2:08:04 PM UTC-8, DianeE wrote:
> Is "the Vons" a drugstore?
Supermarket. Actually the Vons in Malibu is called Pavilions. And Dylan should be taking Aleve instead of Advil for longevity.
> Is "the Vons" a drugstore?
Will Dockery
Dec 10, 2016, 9:37:48 AM12/10/16
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M. Rick, I'm getting real old fast, so can you give me a quick reason why either of the two pain remedies you mentioned I'd better than the other?
Just s quick real life question since right now I take s Goody Powder with coffee for all my pain needs.
Just a serious real life question in the winter survival category.¿
Just s quick real life question since right now I take s Goody Powder with coffee for all my pain needs.
Just a serious real life question in the winter survival category.¿
M. Rick
Dec 10, 2016, 1:49:11 PM12/10/16
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On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 6:37:48 AM UTC-8, Will Dockery wrote:
> M. Rick, I'm getting real old fast, so can you give me a quick reason why either of the two pain remedies you mentioned I'd better than the other?
I don't know which is better. Aleve advertises as lasting longer. I was making a joke about longevity.
> M. Rick, I'm getting real old fast, so can you give me a quick reason why either of the two pain remedies you mentioned I'd better than the other?
Just Walkin'
Dec 10, 2016, 2:03:33 PM12/10/16
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For a simple pain killer, I would recommend acetaminophen to naproxen, ibuprofen or acetylsalicylic acid. But please consult with your doctor if you want to know what the pharmaceutical companies want you to take.
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