Did Bob Dylan write "Blowin' in the Wind"?

[Will Dockery]

According to Snopes, he did.

http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/blowin.asp

[honeyba...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 2:57:21 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> According to Snopes, he did.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/blowin.asp

snopes was founded and is run by fake "jewish" Khazarians, the same tribe as Bob. Snopes has been busted lying and supporting Zionist mythologies on countless occasions. Snopes is not a reliable source of honest information.

[honeyba...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 2:57:21 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:

> According to Snopes, he did.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/blowin.asp

Considering Zimmerman's lifelong practice of plagiarizing other people's work and claiming it as his own, I think it's highly unlikely that he wrote "Blowin' In The Wind" condisering all the evidence that the song was actually written by Lorre Wyatt, who, after all, recorded, performed, and published the song under his own name long before Zimmerman's first verifiable performance of it.

[Will Dockery]

Well, we can admit that this "borrowing" from other works has been a problem for Dylan fans in later years, "Love And Theft" being the most personally disturbing to me, "Blowin' In The Wind" is a work of such simplistic genius I personally have little problems with believing Dylan wrote that one quickly one afternoon with David Blue nearby, helping with chords.

Now, I think Dylan himself attributed much of the melody to borrowing from "No More Auction Block", someone correct me if I'm wrong?

[Earl Browder]

I think it was actually Pete Seeger who first noticed the melodic similarities to "No More Auction Block," but I don't think Dylan has ever denied that he borrowed the tune.

As for "Blowin' in the Wind," Lorre Wyatt and the Milburnaires sang it at a high school Thanksgiving assembly in November 1962. Presumably they had rehearsed it for a month or so prior.

Bob Dylan first peformed the song at Gerde's Folk City on April 16, 1962; then published it in Broadside in May 1962; sang it on The Broadside Show on WBAI-FM which was broadcast in May 1962; recorded a Witmark demo of the song in July 1962; sang it at the Finjan Club in Montreal on July 2, 1962; and recorded it at Columbia Studios in New York City on July 9, 1962. All these dates obviously come well before Thanksgiving 1962.

[Will Dockery]

Sure looks like Bob Dylan wrote that little ditty.

:D

[honeyba...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 5:11:37 PM UTC-4, Earl Browder wrote:

In addition to the Thanksgiving assembly at which the Millburnaires played the song, they also:

1) Rented studio time at a professional studio, which is quite expensive.
2) Recorded the song.
3) Had the song pressed on a record called "A Time To Sing".
4) Had the record professionally released and distributed.
5) Printed the songwriting credit for "Blowin' In The Wind" on the record to Lorre Wyatt.
6) Released the song on ANOTHER album called "Teenage Hootenanny".
6) All this happened AFTER Lorre Wyatt said he stopped performing the song in his supposed "confession" in jewish New Times magazine.

Yeah, you left out those little tidbits in your highly edited account there, bud.

Oh, and btw, do you have any verifiable proof that Zimmerman performed the song in April of 62? Oh, you don't? Oh, well, I guess I'll just take your word for it, because fake "jewish" Khazarian mongoloid commies are really trustworthy people!

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 10:20:34 AM UTC-4, honeyba...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 5:11:37 PM UTC-4, Earl Browder wrote:
> > On Saturday, 1 August 2015 12:31:13 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 3:20:56 AM UTC-4, honeyba...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 2:57:21 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > According to Snopes, he did.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/blowin.asp
> > > >
> > > > Considering Zimmerman's lifelong practice of plagiarizing other people's work and claiming it as his own, I think it's highly unlikely that he wrote "Blowin' In The Wind" condisering all the evidence that the song was actually written by Lorre Wyatt, who, after all, recorded, performed, and published the song under his own name long before Zimmerman's first verifiable performance of it.
> > >
> > > Well, we can admit that this "borrowing" from other works has been a problem for Dylan fans in later years, "Love And Theft" being the most personally disturbing to me, "Blowin' In The Wind" is a work of such simplistic genius I personally have little problems with believing Dylan wrote that one quickly one afternoon with David Blue nearby, helping with chords.
> > >
> > > Now, I think Dylan himself attributed much of the melody to borrowing from "No More Auction Block", someone correct me if I'm wrong?
> >
> >
> > I think it was actually Pete Seeger who first noticed the melodic similarities to "No More Auction Block," but I don't think Dylan has ever denied that he borrowed the tune.
> >
> > As for "Blowin' in the Wind," Lorre Wyatt and the Milburnaires sang it at a high school Thanksgiving assembly in November 1962. Presumably they had rehearsed it for a month or so prior.
> >
> > Bob Dylan first peformed the song at Gerde's Folk City on April 16, 1962; then published it in Broadside in May 1962; sang it on The Broadside Show on WBAI-FM which was broadcast in May 1962; recorded a Witmark demo of the song in July 1962; sang it at the Finjan Club in Montreal on July 2, 1962; and recorded it at Columbia Studios in New York City on July 9, 1962. All these dates obviously come well before Thanksgiving 1962.
>
> In addition to the Thanksgiving assembly at which the Millburnaires played the song, they also:
>
> 1) Rented studio time at a professional studio, which is quite expensive.
> 2) Recorded the song.
> 3) Had the song pressed on a record called "A Time To Sing".
> 4) Had the record professionally released and distributed.
> 5) Printed the songwriting credit for "Blowin' In The Wind" on the record to Lorre Wyatt.
> 6) Released the song on ANOTHER album called "Teenage Hootenanny".
> 6) All this happened AFTER Lorre Wyatt said he stopped performing the song in his supposed "confession" in jewish New Times magazine.

One obvious way to look at it was these guys, or someone backing and/or advising these Millburnaires, had thoughts about stealing a song from an obscure Jewish kid aka Bob Dylan.

That scene looks just as possible, and even likely.

Just sayin'.

:D

[honeyba...@gmail.com]

What makes this scenario far less likely is Zimmerman's track record of plagiarism from his earliest years until the present.

The same can't be said for Lorre Wyatt, who has enjoyed a career of original songwriting that even a fellow traveller like Pete Seeger said would be (to paraphrase) sung by future generations of children 100 years from now.

Now what song by Lorre Wyatt do you think he might have been referring to? What songs do ANY schoolchildren sing by Lorre Wyatt even now, much less in the future?

One song I know I was forced to sing in elementary school was that song by the Millburnaires, "Blowin' In The Wind". Lorre Wyatt was in that band.

[Earl Browder]

On Sunday, 2 August 2015 12:04:16 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>One obvious way to look at it was these guys, or someone backing and/or >advising these Millburnaires, had thoughts about stealing a song from an >obscure Jewish kid aka Bob Dylan.
>
>That scene looks just as possible, and even likely.
>
>Just sayin'.
>
>:D

Not just possible, but well supported by the chronology, which now reads:

(1) April 1962 - Bob Dylan first performed the song at Gerde's Folk City

It doesn't really matter if you remove that one, though there's no particular basis for doing so--given that both David Blue and Gil Turner confirm it.

(2) May 1962 - Bob Dylan publishes the song in Broadside
(3) May 1962 - WBAI-FM broadcasts Dylan singing the song on The Broadside Show
(4) July 1962 - Dylan records the song as a Witmark demo
(5) July 1962 - Dylan registers the song title with ASCAP pending a copyright
(6) July 2, 1962 - Dylan sings the song at the Finjan Club in Montreal
(7) July 9, 1962 - Dylan records the song at Columbia Studios in New York City

Then, more than four months after July 9, 1962 when Dylan first recorded the song for release (after singing and publishing it on several occasions in the three months prior), along came the Milbunaires who

(8) performed it in a Thanksgiving high school assembly in late November 1962.

In 1963, the Milburnaires then:

> > 9) Rented studio time at a professional studio, which is quite expensive.
> > 10) Recorded the song.
> > 11) Had the song pressed on a record called "A Time To Sing".
> > 12) Had the record professionally released and distributed

But not until April 1963, 6-12 months after Dylan had sung it in concert, published it in Broadside, registered the title with ASCAP, and recorded it both as a demo and for release on his second album.

> > 13) Printed the songwriting credit for "Blowin' In The Wind" on the record to Lorre Wyatt.
> > 14) Released the song on ANOTHER album called "Teenage Hootenanny".

This was merely the nationally released version of "A Time to Sing" on the Battle label, with identical tracks,issued in the summer of 1963, following the local release. Issued on a national label (with potentially much greater national visibility), Wyatt's name now disappeared from the album--probably after consultation with Battle's attorneys.

> > 15) All this happened AFTER Lorre Wyatt said he stopped performing the song in his supposed "confession" in jewish New Times magazine.

So, having lied about writing the song, Wyatt lied some more about only having sung it once.

No matter how you cut it, the spring and summer of 1962 came before Thanksgiving 1962. And *all* of 1962 came before 1963.

Unless maybe you're thinking that Fomenko has it right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Fomenko)

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 12:57:33 PM UTC-4, honeyba...@gmail.com wrote:
> Lorre Wyatt, who has enjoyed a career of original songwriting

I wasn't aware that Wyatt had a king career, what of note has he written?

[Will Dockery]

All this documentation seems difficult to sanely argue with...

http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/blowin.asp

:D

[honeyba...@gmail.com]

> Not just possible, but well supported by the chronology, which now reads:
>
> (1) April 1962 - Bob Dylan first performed the song at Gerde's Folk City
>
> It doesn't really matter if you remove that one, though there's no particular basis for doing so--given that both David Blue and Gil Turner confirm it.
>
> (2) May 1962 - Bob Dylan publishes the song in Broadside
> (3) May 1962 - WBAI-FM broadcasts Dylan singing the song on The Broadside Show
> (4) July 1962 - Dylan records the song as a Witmark demo
> (5) July 1962 - Dylan registers the song title with ASCAP pending a copyright
> (6) July 2, 1962 - Dylan sings the song at the Finjan Club in Montreal
> (7) July 9, 1962 - Dylan records the song at Columbia Studios in New York City

This is all hearsay. The only extant evidence that I've seen to support these contentions is a supposed photocopy of the mimeographed "Sing out" copy, an obvious fake that anybody could produce.

Do you have ANY evidence to support the contention that Zimmerman sand it on WBAI in May 62? You have to remember that WBAI is run by the same satanic commies who would help Zimmerman perpetrate fraud, so anything coming from them is highly susupect.

Do you have ANY evidence that Zimmerman "registered" the song with ASCAP, or that he played it in Montreal or Columbia studios in JUly?

If any of this was true why did he NOT play the song, clearly one "his" strongest" at his Carnegie Hall debut a few months later?

Sorry, but until I see some kind of evidence besides hearsay to support these contentions, I'm calling BULLSHIT on this.

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 9:03:16 PM UTC-4, honeyba...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> If any of this was true why did he NOT play the song, clearly one "his" strongest" at his Carnegie Hall debut a few months later?

That's a good question, but it probably is as simple as Dylan had written so many songs at that point, that he didn't know yet that "Blowin' In The Wind" was going to be the breakthrough hit yet.

[honeyba...@gmail.com]

That explanation holds no water, as Zimmerman's cronies' stories claim that the effect of the song was immediately electrifying, and everyone knew it would be a great classic etc. So if Zimmerman had already written the song (and there is NO verifiable evidence that he did other than hearsay), he already knew it was his best song, and would certainly have played it at his Carnegi Hall debut.