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Barbara Sherrill

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if anyone else hears about this let me know.. its all over our local news
here in Houston.

According to Channel 13 news here in Houston. They are very reliable

Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw were arrested last night in Buffallo NY.
Kenny had permission to climb on a deputy sherriffs horse than he took off
on it. Kenny ignored them when they told him to stop. So while the sherriffs
were arresting Kenny, Tim attacked the officers and he was arrested.

Both made bail last night and are on their way to the next show.

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I have been searching the net for more of the story... when I find it ... I
will post it.

Barb

Hoyga

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>if anyone else hears about this let me know.. its all over our local news
>here in Houston.

Singers Chesney, McGraw Arrested

.c The Associated Press

BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) - Country music singers Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw were
arrested after Chesney rode away with a Mounted Reserve deputy's horse and
McGraw attacked deputies who tried to corral him, the sheriff's office said.

Chesney had asked to sit on the horse outside the Ralph Wilson Stadium. The
daughter of the deputy who owned the horse gave him permission to do so.

Chesney, 32, mounted the horse and rode off Saturday night, according to a
statement from the Erie County Sheriff's Office. Deputies patrolling the
stadium parking lot ordered him to stop.

When Chesney ignored the orders, the deputies rode after him and pulled him off
the horse, the statement said. The deputies then were attacked by McGraw, 33,
and members of his entourage, according to the statement, which did not
elaborate.

Chesney of Nashville, Tenn., was charged with disorderly conduct and was
released on $100 bail.

McGraw of Brentwood, Tenn., was charged with second-degree assault, obstructing
governmental administration, menacing and resisting arrest. He was released on
$2,500 bail

One of McGraw's employees, Mark Russo, 44, of Hendersonville, Tenn., was
charged with obstructing governmental administration, harassment, disorderly
conduct and resisting arrest. He was released on $500 bail.

McGraw is married to country signer Faith Hill. He has had 14 No. 1 singles,
including ``Indian Outlaw'' and ``Don't Take the Girl.'' He won the top male
vocalist prize at the Academy of Country Music Awards in May.

Chesney's tunes include ``How Forever Feels.''

CKbeForMe

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Gee, and this is a guy that was named Father of the Year or something??? Ha!

Balecox

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This is great. And there I was just last week saying that all the great
characters like Roger Miller and Faron Young were gone. Go Kenny & Tim!
Sounds like a bunch of Buffalo cops can't take a joke.

Patsi

Barbara Sherrill

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I bet Faith is non to happy with Tim right now...that blows the perfect
image .

Barb

Loren Di Iorio

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CKbeForMe wrote:
: Gee, and this is a guy that was named Father of the Year or
: something??? Ha!

I was gonna make the same comment; I'll bet the NFI (the fatherhood
organization that gave him the award on Friday) are thinking of taking
the award back.

...Loren

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Barbara Sherrill

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"Balecox" <bal...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Tim and Kenny fiqured, it was too quite on the country front. That is all I
can think of. Can't you hear George teasing them over this one.

Barb

Prnzofthvs

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>This is great. And there I was just last week saying that all the great
>characters like Roger Miller and Faron Young were gone. Go Kenny & Tim!
>Sounds like a bunch of Buffalo cops can't take a joke.
>
>Patsi

Actually, sounds like Kenny (and Tim, et al) may have forgotten Kenny's "That's
Why I'm Here!"

Steve(NOT a Kenny basher!)
"You got to stand for somethin', or you'll fall for anything."
Aaron Tippin

Country Boy

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Prnzofthvs <prnzo...@aol.comjunkbloc> wrote in article
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> >This is great. And there I was just last week saying that all the great
> >characters like Roger Miller and Faron Young were gone. Go Kenny & Tim!

> >Sounds like a bunch of Buffalo cops can't take a joke.
> >
> >Patsi
>
> Actually, sounds like Kenny (and Tim, et al) may have forgotten Kenny's
"That's
> Why I'm Here!"
>

All I can think of is that photograph on the back of Kenny's last album,
where he's riding a horse on the beach. Ride 'em, cowboy! Who says
there's no country in country music anymore? It's Waylon & Willie all over
again!


Maggie Smolkovich

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LOL....Patsi, you're right. While I certainly don't condone immoral
conduct, I sure
think that riding off on the horse didn't merit the "stop! or we'll
shoot" routine.
Where the heck was he gonna go with the horse.....to the next gig?

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Maggie Smolkovich

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I'm sure there's more to the story. Maybe
"unnecessary force" was used to get Kenny off the horse and Tim got
upset.

joeda

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Yep,
In article
<106FCDF9144F011B.15A59CD3...@lp.airnews.ne

Yep, I'd bet Timmy isn't going to be allowed to play with
Kenny anymore.

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Country Boy

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joeda <mduvall...@gateway.net.invalid> wrote in article
<04ede3dc...@usw-ex0108-063.remarq.com>...


>
> Yep, I'd bet Timmy isn't going to be allowed to play with
> Kenny anymore.
>

Unless Faith was also there, and saw the whole thing.

Balecox

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>>>Unless Faith was also there, and saw the whole thing.<<<

The Faith I knew some years back would have cowboyed up & jumped in the fray
too....Gotta go with CB's comment too: Waylon & Willie ride again.

Patsi

The OldTimer

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Bubble Gum Country run Amok.

tot

"joeda" <mduvall...@gateway.net.invalid> wrote in message
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> Yep,
> In article
> <106FCDF9144F011B.15A59CD3...@lp.airnews.ne
> t>, "Barbara Sherrill" <bshe...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I bet Faith is non to happy with Tim right now...that blows the
> perfect
> >image .
>

> Yep, I'd bet Timmy isn't going to be allowed to play with
> Kenny anymore.
>

Craig Franck

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Maggie Smolkovich wrote:
>
> I'm sure there's more to the story. Maybe
> "unnecessary force" was used to get Kenny off the horse and Tim got
> upset.

It sounds to me like somebody got a bad ice cube, rather
than just a simple case of differing attitudes on horse-
riding etiquette.

--
Craig
clfr...@worldnet.att.net
Manchester, NH
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for
everyone drops to zero.

Craig Franck

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Barbara Sherrill wrote:
>
> I bet Faith is non to happy with Tim right now...that blows the perfect
> image .

She said in one of her songs she wanted a guy on a fast
horse; she never said it couldn't be a stolen police horse.

Barbara Sherrill

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> Maggie Smolkovich wrote:
> >
> > I'm sure there's more to the story. Maybe
> > "unnecessary force" was used to get Kenny off the horse and Tim got
> > upset.
>

"unnecessary force"... he was told to stop and he didn't. Kenny is lucky
they didn't file theft charges on him. He got real lucky.
And Tim should of stayed out of it. All, he did was make matters worse.

Barb


treg

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On Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:47:00 -0500 (CDT), TNMAGG...@webtv.net
(Maggie Smolkovich) wrote:

>I'm sure there's more to the story. Maybe
>"unnecessary force" was used to get Kenny off the horse and Tim got
>upset.
>

>Maggie
I apologize for tossing a little reality into this "humorous/police
brutality" guessing game, but, what if:

it was your horse?

the horse bucked and Kenny got hurt?

the horse bucked and a bystander got hurt?

Kenny and/or the horse got hit by a car coming around a corner?

How would the Police explain "under reacting" because it was just a
couple of good ole boy Country stars having some fun?

Ray Arthur

Craig Franck

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Barbara Sherrill wrote:

>
> > Maggie Smolkovich wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm sure there's more to the story. Maybe
> > > "unnecessary force" was used to get Kenny off the horse and Tim got
> > > upset.
> >
>
> "unnecessary force"... he was told to stop and he didn't. Kenny is lucky
> they didn't file theft charges on him. He got real lucky.
> And Tim should of stayed out of it. All, he did was make matters worse.

And, as usual, the guy who tries to break things up gets
the worst of it. A friend of mine was in the process of
getting arrested for taunting a dog in the back of a K9
unit outside of a convenience store, when the guy he's
with comes out and tries put a stop to it (yes, alcohol
was an aggravating ingredient). My friend got charged
with disobeying a police officer (he wouldn't step away
from the cruiser when told), and his friend got charged
with resisting arrest and assault because one of the cops
said he shoved him.

Barbara Sherrill

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"Craig Franck" <clfr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Barbara Sherrill wrote:
> >
> > I bet Faith is non to happy with Tim right now...that blows the perfect
> > image .
>
> She said in one of her songs she wanted a guy on a fast
> horse; she never said it couldn't be a stolen police horse.
>
> --
> Craig


Then Faith married the wrong man... LOL.. she should of gone after Kenny.

Barb

Barbara Sherrill

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"Craig Franck" <clfr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Barbara Sherrill wrote:
> >
> > > Maggie Smolkovich wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure there's more to the story. Maybe
> > > > "unnecessary force" was used to get Kenny off the horse and Tim got
> > > > upset.
> > >
> >
> > "unnecessary force"... he was told to stop and he didn't. Kenny is
lucky
> > they didn't file theft charges on him. He got real lucky.
> > And Tim should of stayed out of it. All, he did was make matters worse.
>
> And, as usual, the guy who tries to break things up gets
> the worst of it. A friend of mine was in the process of
> getting arrested for taunting a dog in the back of a K9
> unit outside of a convenience store, when the guy he's
> with comes out and tries put a stop to it (yes, alcohol
> was an aggravating ingredient). My friend got charged
> with disobeying a police officer (he wouldn't step away
> from the cruiser when told), and his friend got charged
> with resisting arrest and assault because one of the cops
> said he shoved him.
>
> --
> Craig

I have heard stories, like that when I was going to court. In away, I miss
being in the court room... Arraignment Day was always fun.

Barbara

Country Boy

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The OldTimer <t...@totn.net> wrote in article
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> Bubble Gum Country run Amok.
>
> tot


Yep. That's what they said when Willie smoked pot on the roof of the White
House.


Balecox

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>>>In away, I miss
being in the court room... Arraignment Day was always fun.<<<

Hmm...Exactly what turned you on about seeing people get arraigned? Sounds
dismal to me. I think about a fourth of the police in this country are on some
sort of sick power trip. And I don't believe a word most of them say...as
witness this latest L.A. scandal. Not to mention the fact that the daughter of
the chief cop told Kenny he could get on the horse in the first place. Sounds
more like a gherm screw up to me. And since it was in NY state, Kenny's just
lucky they didn't shoot him. If he'd been black they would have...oh, yeah --
if he'd been black and not a country singer the little chick wouldn't have
said, "Oh, sure -- you can ride him" in the first place.

Patsi


Balecox

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>>>How would the Police explain "under reacting" because it was just a
couple of good ole boy Country stars having some fun?

Ray Arthur<<<

Ray, I understand your point, but cops in the state of NY seem to be able to
explain about anything away.

Patsi

Nshvlbrat

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>bal...@aol.com (Balecox) wrote:


>The Faith I knew some years back would have cowboyed up & jumped in the fray
>too....

You betcha! Faith would be ridin' that cop's back just a-beatin' on his head!
Yep...she'd be right in the middle of it, no doubt about it!
-Brat

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Barbara Sherrill

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You should see thing my husband wrote up about the GS fest coming to Houston
concerning this matter and then he emailed it to me... If you like to read
it email me privately and I will send it to you. Afraid if I put it on
here.. someone would take it to serouisly.

Barbara


Barbara Sherrill

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you have to be in the court room to appreciate this. You wonder where they
get material for dumb criminals books. I could write a book on the lame
excuses we heard in court. Some of the folks, I wanted to hang ...but there
are others. We wonder where they get their brains from.

Its like Cops, FireFighters that you may see laughing at scene of some sort.
They are not laughing at the situation..they are laughing to keep from
losing it. Yes, they had to develop a strange sense of humor in order to
get through somethings. If they didn't ...they would crack. Same can be said
about anyone that is around doom and gloom quit abit.

Yep, many officers, have a power trip thing going, I know many of them and I
stay away from them when I can. I don't respect the officers that, think
they are better than the rest of the world. even those that arrest the perps
that I dealt with in the court room .

Well, I can't wait to see what the investigation has to say more on the
girl, telling KC he could get on to a horse. Here, they DO NOT allow anyone
on the horses and for this very reason. KC is lucky they didn't charge him,
with stealing a horse. He got off with a slap on the wrist so far. This
thing is far from over.

Barb


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Prnzofthvs

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>You betcha! Faith would be ridin' that cop's back just a-beatin' on his
>head!
>Yep...she'd be right in the middle of it, no doubt about it!
>-Brat

You know I just GOTTA say it: Faith can jump on my back anytime she likes!

Steve

Prnzofthvs

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Craig posted:

>And, as usual, the guy who tries to break things up gets
>the worst of it. A friend of mine was in the process of
>getting arrested for taunting a dog in the back of a K9
>unit outside of a convenience store, when the guy he's
>with comes out and tries put a stop to it

> (yes, alcohol
>was an aggravating ingredient). My friend got charged
>with disobeying a police officer (he wouldn't step away
>from the cruiser when told), and his friend got charged
>with resisting arrest and assault because one of the cops
>said he shoved him.

Well, Duh! Was either of the folks you mention aware that interferring with a
police officer who is lawfully performing his duty is a crime? And who ever
said that being drunk is an excuse to break the law?

Prnzofthvs

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I think what we need to keep in mind is that she told him he could "get on the
horse." The story didn't mention anything about whether or not she told him he
could "ride off into the sunset" with the horse. Unless we know all the facts,
it's ridiculous to say either side is right or wrong.

It is, however, a mere matter of common sense not to interfere with a police
officer who is doing his job. (Not saying cops are always right - just that
they are always cops)

The OldTimer

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Having travelled a bit with that bunch, I can assure that is not what was
said. More like "old f..... hippies" and things of that nature.

tot


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Linda F. Cauthen

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Maggie Smolkovich wrote:
>
> I'm sure there's more to the story. Maybe
> "unnecessary force" was used to get Kenny off the horse and Tim got
> upset.
>
> Maggie

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Linda C.

Linda F. Cauthen

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Balecox wrote:
>
> This is great. And there I was just last week saying that all the great
> characters like Roger Miller and Faron Young were gone. Go Kenny & Tim!
> Sounds like a bunch of Buffalo cops can't take a joke.
>
> Patsi

Am I the only one who can't imagine these two scuffling with *anybody,*
much less the police? I suspect there's more going on here that we
haven't heard yet.

Linda C.

angel...@my-deja.com

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I get the feeling that Kenny and Tim were probably drunk.

Angela

(Maggie Smolkovich) wrote: >>I'm sure there's more to the story.


Maybe "unnecessary force" was used to get Kenny off the horse and Tim
got upset.>>


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angel...@my-deja.com

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Tim was just looking out for his friend. They'll remember that day
forever.

Angela

"Barbara Sherrill" wrote: >>"unnecessary force"... he was told to
stop and he didn't. Kenny is lucky they didn't file theft charges on


him. He got real lucky. And Tim should of stayed out of it. All, he
did was make matters worse.>>

Valisa

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> Bubble Gum Country run Amok.
>>

>Yep. That's what they said when Willie smoked pot on the roof of the White
>House.

Glad I signed on this afternoon. I needed a few good laughs... this thread
conjurs up
memories of the movie The Cowboy Way. Maybe Kenny and Timmy could do a remake.

Valisa

doppl...@aol.com

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CNN Interactive site has more but here's an excerpt:

-- "Chesney had asked to sit on the horse outside the Ralph Wilson
Stadium. The daughter of the deputy who owned the horse gave him
permission to do so.

Chesney, 32, mounted the horse and rode off Saturday night, according
to a statement from the Erie County Sheriff's Office. Deputies
patrolling the stadium parking lot ordered him to stop.

When Chesney ignored the orders, the deputies rode after him and pulled
him off the horse, the statement said. The deputies then were attacked
by McGraw, 33, and members of his entourage, according to the
statement, which did not elaborate."

xxxxxxxxxxx
Jeez... how embarrassing. I can't wait to hear the WHOLE story.

Jill~
"Where's a door when you need one?" -Toby Keith
http://www.angelfire.com/country/tkfanpage/hdylmn.htm

Valisa

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>Then Faith married the wrong man... LOL.. she should of gone after Kenny.

ROTFLMAO!!
Somehow I have a feeling that this story is going to be fodder for Leno and
Letterman and everyone in between. We haven't heard the last of this one.
Guess the next appearances will be Fan Fair... Foxworthy will have a heyday
with this at the awards show.

Valisa

Barbara Sherrill

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"Brett Dale" <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
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> Barbara Sherrill wrote:
> >
> > if anyone else hears about this let me know.. its all over our local
news
> > here in Houston.
> >
> > According to Channel 13 news here in Houston. They are very reliable
> >
> > Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw were arrested last night in Buffallo NY.
> > Kenny had permission to climb on a deputy sherriffs horse than he took
off
> > on it. Kenny ignored them when they told him to stop. So while the
sherriffs
> > were arresting Kenny, Tim attacked the officers and he was arrested.
> >
> > Both made bail last night and are on their way to the next show.
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> > I have been searching the net for more of the story... when I find it
... I
> > will post it.
> >
> > Barb
>
> What else was on Hard Copy?
>
>
Brett... Try www.cnn.com this story wasn't made up ... to many have heard
about it and its all over reliable internet sites and the ap wire is the one
that broke this one.

Barb

Strait409

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Barb wrote:

>I could write a book on the lame
>excuses we heard in court.

Hey Barb, was this in Harris County??

Erik

Barbara Sherrill

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Harris, Waller and Fort Bend County's .... I cover all of them on my end of
town

Barb

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Barbara Sherrill

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For those that live or lived in Houston will know what I mean by this... Tim
and Kenny, should appear before Judge Ted Poe... I wonder if they have to
hold a sign or what punishment they would get from him.

Barbara Sherrill

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There is NO excuses for Tim or Kenny to break the law... doesn't matter if
Tim was looking out for his friend... he only made matters worse.

barb

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> Tim was just looking out for his friend. They'll remember that day
> forever.
>
> Angela
>
> "Barbara Sherrill" wrote: >>"unnecessary force"... he was told to
> stop and he didn't. Kenny is lucky they didn't file theft charges on
> him. He got real lucky. And Tim should of stayed out of it. All, he
> did was make matters worse.>>
>
>

wyon

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Barbara Sherrill <bshe...@pdq.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> I bet Faith is non to happy with Tim right now...that blows the perfect
> image .
>
> Barb

LOL what perfect image? It's good for the likes of them to be taken down a
couple of notches now and again.
>
>

Reba...@webtv.net

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Now that is immature and they are supposed to be influences?? I am
taking my Tim McGraw CD's and sending them straight back to the record
company.


Barbara Sherrill

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In a round about way ...I am glad that Tim and Kenny were reminded, that
they are human.. I think after awhile, someone famous forgets, that they are
not above eveyone else.... hopefully, this will bring them back down to
earth.

Barb

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Barbara Sherrill

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Since they did not commit murder or do anything to serouis. I have seen a
whole hell of lot worse. I am still going to the concert and enjoy myself
with all 7 acts... I paid $65.00 for it all, and I am going to get my
money's worth. I am not returning my Tim or Kenny CD's ... now if they are
rude to one of my kids, the way Reba was...then the CD's would go back
without another thought.

Barb

"Craig Franck" <clfr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:393B0532...@worldnet.att.net...

> It'll be interesting to see what's left in your record
> collection if you apply that standard consistently.
>
> --
> Craig
> clfr...@worldnet.att.net
> Manchester, NH
> On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for
> everyone drops to zero.

Barbara Sherrill

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> Reba...@webtv.net wrote in article
> <6313-393...@storefull-173.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...


> > Now that is immature and they are supposed to be influences?? I am
> > taking my Tim McGraw CD's and sending them straight back to the record
> > company.
> >

The only influences in people lives should be, God, our parents and
teachers.... People that directly been in our lives. To many hold stars as
perfect images... Geesh, in a way I am glad this had happen... because... if
it didn't then several would keep thinking these people are perfect and are
our influences.

Barb

joeda

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In article <20000604213509...@ng-cq1.aol.com>,
stra...@aol.com (Strait409) wrote:
>Prnzofthvs wrote:
>
>>Is it my imagination, or are you and I the only ones here who
think that
>>breaking the law is unacceptable, no matter who you are?
>
>I'm with y'all too. Kenny and Tim got what was comin' to 'em.
>
>Erik

I agree with you two, I certainly don't condone assaulting a
police officer, BUT I do think it might be wise to get the entire
story, before we start burning their CD's. There are usually
two sides to the story. My initial reaction is that what Kenny
did probably wouldn't have warranted more than a lecture, or at
most a citation. However, cops tend to get pretty ticked off when
someone physically attacks them. Like Steve said, they might
not always be right, but they are always the cops.

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greasemonkey

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I don't know how to respond to this one!!
Maybe his tractor wasn't as sexy as he thought it was.

How will it affect Tim's honors?

"The NFI chose McGraw as a celebrity role model for their national
non-profit organization for his numerous contributions to children's
organizations and charities, his personal vow to his own family by
placing them as a priority over his musical career and his inspirational
childhood
story."

--

>

Barbara Sherrill

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> Reba...@webtv.net wrote in article
> <6313-393...@storefull-173.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
> > Now that is immature and they are supposed to be influences?? I am
> > taking my Tim McGraw CD's and sending them straight back to the record
> > company.
> >


I have and have stated several times, that I have a country artist as a
cousin ... on my dad's side of the family... I don't even hold him as a
positive influence for children.. He is a great guy, but that is where it
ends.

Now on mom's side of the family one of my cousins is married to a pro
football player, whom I have met and just fallen in love with. He is a
positive influence on my oldest son. This cousin in law, has helped him
understand the importance of grades thorugh out the years. Come to find out,
one of his team mates cousins is one of my son's classmates... he brought a
letter from cuz in law to my son... letting him know he was thinking about
him and praying for him.. if a celb has to be an influence that is the kind
our children need.

But, I will still stand by my claim and say.... the influences should be
God, parents and teachers. People directly in our lives.

Barb

greasemonkey

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Hey, we know a host of stars that have been in prison.
David Allen Coe, Johnny Paycheck, Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard......I think we
have forgiven them. (If anyone knows more names, I'd like to know, and I'd
like to know the crime they were accused of)

I think the stars all live in a prison of their own. They have their fame,
but they lack the everyday freedom the we all have. They can't go out in
public without being annoyed by fans and reporters. I don't envy them at
all. If they were 2 ordinary guys, they wouldn't have made the news. They
are just "stir-crazy".


Pete Zha

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Watch...Kenny and Tim are gonna write a song about their misfortune. <g>

Dixon Klitz

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I am glad they finally did something wild and crazy for a change.
Especially Tim. He's been acting too much like a wussy lately playing
Mr. Faith Hill and singing sappy crappy songs and duets with the better
half. I'm thinking alcohol probably contributed to his poor judgment in
reacting to the situation. Alcohol, when combined with testosterone and
adrenaline, often means trouble. I know.

~~Dixon~~


Pete Zha

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REALLY ! Me too
>
>You must realize that the simple act of laying a hand on a police
>officer can probably get you a charge of second degree assault. I look
>forward to hearing Kenny and Tim's side of the story.
>
>~~Dixon~~


Dixon Klitz

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joeda wrote:
>
> In article <20000604213509...@ng-cq1.aol.com>,
> stra...@aol.com (Strait409) wrote:
> >Prnzofthvs wrote:
> >
> >>Is it my imagination, or are you and I the only ones here who
> think that
> >>breaking the law is unacceptable, no matter who you are?
> >
> >I'm with y'all too. Kenny and Tim got what was comin' to 'em.
> >
> >Erik
>
> I agree with you two, I certainly don't condone assaulting a
> police officer, BUT I do think it might be ++++ to get the entire

> story, before we start burning their CD's. There are usually
> two sides to the story. My initial reaction is that what Kenny
> did probably wouldn't have warranted more than a lecture, or at
> most a citation. However, cops tend to get pretty ticked off when
> someone physically attacks them. Like Steve said, they might
> not always be right, but they are always the cops.
>
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You must realize that the simple act of laying a hand on a police

Dixon Klitz

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Reba...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> Now that is immature and they are supposed to be influences?? I am
> taking my Tim McGraw CD's and sending them straight back to the record
> company.

I think you should just destroy them yourself. That ought to make you
feel much better about the whole situation. And help to relieve stress
too.

~~Dixon~~

joeda

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In article
<8B24B53F9BEDF2DE.C0969BBE...@lp.airnews.ne

t>, "Barbara Sherrill" <bshe...@pdq.net> wrote:
>In a round about way ...I am glad that Tim and Kenny were
reminded, that
>they are human.. I think after awhile, someone famous forgets,
that they are
>not above eveyone else.... hopefully, this will bring them back
down to
>earth.
>

That's very similar to what I was thinking today. An awful lot
of artists experience a time when their ego's get a little "out
there". It doesn't mean they're jerks, just human. They get so
much praise and adulation, and of course everyone on their
payroll is going to go along with whatever they want, it's hard
to keep their feet on the ground. The smart ones and, I suspect,
the ones who are basically decent human beings usually come
back to earth after awhile, and sometimes something like this
is a great wake-up call. From everything I've heard about those
two, they're decent people and I seriously doubt this is going to
have any impact on their careers. They will probably pay a fine,
at most, and move on.

RACVB

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greasemonkey wrote:

Okay, we're close but not quite there. Would somebody actually like to say
"celebrities are
special and are allowed to break the law and put other peoples lives and
property in
danger or jeopardy?

Ray Artrhur


RACVB

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"Linda F. Cauthen" wrote:

> Does being "accused" automatically make them criminals? Don't you have
> to be convicted for that?
>
> Linda C.

The presumption of innocence is a guaranteed legal right in a court of law,
not an Internet news group!

Ray Arthur


Maggie Smolkovich

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LOL....a friend of mine who is NOT sympathetic to the whole episode has
suggested some possible songs from the
incident:
Idiot Outlaws
Let's Make Bail
She Thinks My Rap Sheet's Sexy
Pleeeeeese......Don't Take The Horse

Maggie (still laughing)

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wyon

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Balecox <bal...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000604142432...@ng-cg1.aol.com...
> >>>How would the Police explain "under reacting" because it was just a
> couple of good ole boy Country stars having some fun?
>
> Ray Arthur<<<
>
> Ray, I understand your point, but cops in the state of NY seem to be able
to
> explain about anything away.
>
> Patsi

True, LOL, they've explained gunning down a few people pretty well too.

Clark Reid

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Don't give anyone any ideas!!!!

Clark Reid
www.clarkreid.cjb.net


"Barbara Sherrill" <bshe...@pdq.net> wrote in message

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>
> "Craig Franck" <clfr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

> news:393A90DA...@worldnet.att.net...


> > Barbara Sherrill wrote:
> > >
> > > I bet Faith is non to happy with Tim right now...that blows the
perfect
> > > image .
> >

> > She said in one of her songs she wanted a guy on a fast
> > horse; she never said it couldn't be a stolen police horse.
> >
> > --
> > Craig


>
>
> Then Faith married the wrong man... LOL.. she should of gone after Kenny.
>

> Barb
>
>

Brett Dale

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Barbara Sherrill wrote:
>
> if anyone else hears about this let me know.. its all over our local news
> here in Houston.
>
> According to Channel 13 news here in Houston. They are very reliable
>
> Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw were arrested last night in Buffallo NY.
> Kenny had permission to climb on a deputy sherriffs horse than he took off
> on it. Kenny ignored them when they told him to stop. So while the sherriffs
> were arresting Kenny, Tim attacked the officers and he was arrested.
>
> Both made bail last night and are on their way to the next show.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------
>
> I have been searching the net for more of the story... when I find it ... I
> will post it.
>
> Barb

What else was on Hard Copy?


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In article
<FF82DA70AC23B44F.9F53519E...@lp.airnews.net>,

"Barbara Sherrill" <bshe...@pdq.net> wrote:
> if anyone else hears about this let me know.. its all over our local
news
> here in Houston.
>
> According to Channel 13 news here in Houston. They are very reliable
>
> Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw were arrested last night in Buffallo NY.
> Kenny had permission to climb on a deputy sherriffs horse than he
took off
> on it. Kenny ignored them when they told him to stop. So while the
sherriffs
> were arresting Kenny, Tim attacked the officers and he was arrested.
>
> Both made bail last night and are on their way to the next show.
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> -------------------------------------------
>
> I have been searching the net for more of the story... when I find it
... I
> will post it.
>
> Barb
>
> You can go to The Tennessean website, this is a nashville newspaper
and it gives you a little more incite to the story.

Prnzofthvs

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>I get the feeling that Kenny and Tim were probably drunk.
>
>Angela

Well, hell, then; that excuses anything and everything!

Steve
"You got to stand for somethin', or you'll fall for anything."
Aaron Tippin

Prnzofthvs

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>There is NO excuses for Tim or Kenny to break the law... doesn't matter if
>Tim was looking out for his friend... he only made matters worse.
>
>barb

Is it my imagination, or are you and I the only ones here who think that


breaking the law is unacceptable, no matter who you are?

Steve

Prnzofthvs

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>Somehow I have a feeling that this story is going to be fodder for Leno and
>Letterman and everyone in between. We haven't heard the last of this one.
>Guess the next appearances will be Fan Fair... Foxworthy will have a heyday
>with this at the awards show.
>
>Valisa

Somehow, I think Engval may just work in someway to justify giving each of them
a "sign." :o)

Craig Franck

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Prnzofthvs wrote:

> Well, Duh! Was either of the folks you mention aware that interferring with a
> police officer who is lawfully performing his duty is a crime? And who ever
> said that being drunk is an excuse to break the law?

I didn't mean it was an excuse. It's just an observation of
mine that these things rarely happen when people are in a
state of sobriety.

Prnzofthvs

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>For those that live or lived in Houston will know what I mean by this... Tim
>and Kenny, should appear before Judge Ted Poe... I wonder if they have to
>hold a sign or what punishment they would get from him.
>
>Barb

Bill Engval should make the signs for them! :o)

Prnzofthvs

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RebaLuver wrote:

>Now that is immature and they are supposed to be influences?? I am
>taking my Tim McGraw CD's and sending them straight back to the record
>company.

I've been reading this thread and getting a chuckle or two from some of the
posts, but I think we country fans should keep things in perspective. What
Kenny and Tim did was wrong, but compare it to what has happened among
performers in other genres of music. I won't get into specifics, cause I don't
want to be accused of anything; you all know what I'm talking about, I'm
sure.....

Strait409

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Prnzofthvs wrote:

>Is it my imagination, or are you and I the only ones here who think that
>breaking the law is unacceptable, no matter who you are?

I'm with y'all too. Kenny and Tim got what was comin' to 'em.

Erik

Craig Franck

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Reba...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> Now that is immature and they are supposed to be influences?? I am
> taking my Tim McGraw CD's and sending them straight back to the record
> company.

It'll be interesting to see what's left in your record
collection if you apply that standard consistently.

Prnzofthvs

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>It'll be interesting to see what's left in your record
>collection if you apply that standard consistently.
>
>--
>Craig
>clfr...@worldnet.att.net
>Manchester, NH
>On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for
>everyone drops to zero.

Let's see....Annette Funicello sings Mickey Mouse's favorites? :o)

Love your sig, BTW...

Elmer Alley

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Chuckle, Chuckle. Here is the account as reported by The Buffalo News


McGraw charged with assaulting deputy


Tim McGraw was one of the lead acts at country music festival.
By MARY PASCIAK
News Staff Reporter
6/4/00


Country music star Tim McGraw was charged with assaulting an Erie County
sheriff's deputy just after the singer had finished his set during
Saturday's concert at Ralph Wilson Stadium in Orchard Park.
The debacle started in the parking area for the performers' buses shortly
after 8 p.m., when the daughter of Capt. James Coyle, who oversees the
Sheriff's Department's mounted division, gave country singer Kenny Chesney
permission to sit on her father's horse.

"After he got on the horse, he started to walk away with it," said Chief
Thomas Staebell. "She told him to stop, but he wouldn't."

Chesney proceeded about 100 yards astride the horse before Sgt. Mark Rokitka
and Deputy Art Litzinger spotted him as they drove through the parking lot.
Rokitka told Chesney to get off the horse, but he refused, Staebell said.

"(Rokitka) reached up to get him off the horse, and that's when the
(Litzinger) was assaulted by McGraw," the chief said.

A scuffle ensued between the deputy, the sergeant, the two country
performers and one of McGraw's managers, Mark Russo, Staebell said. The
three men were subdued and taken into custody at the Sheriff Department's
command post at the Windom Hill Fire Hall on Abbott Road.

As of midnight, they were still being held there while authorities waited
for Elma Town Justice M. William Boller to arraign them. Normally, suspects
arrested at the stadium are arraigned in Orchard Park, but the town justices
were not available Saturday night, Staebell said.

McGraw, 33, of Brentwood, Tenn., was the only one of the three charged with
a felony count: assaulting a police officer. He also was charged with
obstruction of governmental administration, resisting arrest and menacing.

Chesney, 32, of Nashville, Tenn., was charged with disorderly conduct.
Russo, 44, of Hendersonville, Tenn., was charged with resisting arrest,
disorderly conduct, obstruction of governmental administration and
harassment. The deputies were treated for minor injuries at at nearby
clinic.

McGraw and Chesney were among the headline performers of the George Strait
Country Music Festival, an all-day concert that attracted about 50,000 to
the Orchard Park stadium.

McGraw is the son of former major league relief pitcher Tug McGraw. Born in
Delhi, La., he came to music late in life, buying a guitar at a pawn shop
while in school.

McGraw has been one of country's hottest acts. In 1995, he chose a relative
unknown named Faith Hill to open his tour for him; within a year, they were
married. Soon Hill's career also took off, and the couple have two young
daughters.

Chesney is a native of Knoxville, Tenn., who grew up in Lutrell, Tenn. He
was in a rock band in his teens, but switched to country music after hearing
"That's the Way Love Goes" by Merle Haggard on the radio.

Since his 1993 debut album, "My Wildest Dreams," Chesney has recorded five
albums.


Country Boy

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The OldTimer <t...@totn.net> wrote in article
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> Having travelled a bit with that bunch, I can assure that is not what was
> said. More like "old f..... hippies" and things of that nature.
>
> tot
>
>

OK...and my point is that neither Tim nor Kenny could be labeled "bubble
gum country." No matter what you personally think of them, their fans, or
their music. There are plenty of other artists who might go in that
category ahead of them.


> "Country Boy" <UDL...@prodigy.com> wrote in message
> news:01bfce4f$76861460$29b6ffd1@default...
> >
> >
> >
> > The OldTimer <t...@totn.net> wrote in article
> > <6dw_4.16001$0l.2...@news-east.usenetserver.com>...
> > > Bubble Gum Country run Amok.
> > >
> > > tot
> >
> >
> > Yep. That's what they said when Willie smoked pot on the roof of the
> White
> > House.
> >
>
>

Country Boy

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Reba...@webtv.net wrote in article
<6313-393...@storefull-173.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...


> Now that is immature and they are supposed to be influences?? I am
> taking my Tim McGraw CD's and sending them straight back to the record
> company.
>

Who ever said these guys are influences? They're just a couple of country
singers. If people choose to look up to country singers as some form of
lifestyle influence, they're destined to live in a bar. Personally, I
think this incident will help Tim & Kenny's album sales.


Janice Brooks

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>Is it my imagination, or are you and I the only ones here who think that
>breaking the law is unacceptable, no matter who you are?

Add me to that list Also my standerds would not change even for the Texas
buddies I know
BUS Janice
Moderator(country music) Steel Guitar Forum
http//www.b0b.com

Linda F. Cauthen

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Prnzofthvs wrote:
>
> >There is NO excuses for Tim or Kenny to break the law... doesn't matter if
> >Tim was looking out for his friend... he only made matters worse.
> >
> >barb
>
> Is it my imagination, or are you and I the only ones here who think that
> breaking the law is unacceptable, no matter who you are?
>
> Steve
> "You got to stand for somethin', or you'll fall for anything."
> Aaron Tippin

This sounds more like a failure to communicate than a deliberate attempt
to break the law.

Linda C.

Linda F. Cauthen

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joeda wrote:
>
> In article <20000604213509...@ng-cq1.aol.com>,
> stra...@aol.com (Strait409) wrote:
> >Prnzofthvs wrote:
> >
> >>Is it my imagination, or are you and I the only ones here who
> think that
> >>breaking the law is unacceptable, no matter who you are?
> >
> >I'm with y'all too. Kenny and Tim got what was comin' to 'em.
> >
> >Erik
>
> I agree with you two, I certainly don't condone assaulting a
> police officer, BUT I do think it might be wise to get the entire

> story, before we start burning their CD's. There are usually
> two sides to the story. My initial reaction is that what Kenny
> did probably wouldn't have warranted more than a lecture, or at
> most a citation. However, cops tend to get pretty ticked off when
> someone physically attacks them. Like Steve said, they might
> not always be right, but they are always the cops.
>
Good points. Some posters make it sound like both have been tried and
convicted of murder already.

Linda C.

Linda F. Cauthen

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Prnzofthvs wrote:

>
> RebaLuver wrote:
>
> >Now that is immature and they are supposed to be influences?? I am
> >taking my Tim McGraw CD's and sending them straight back to the record
> >company.
>
> I've been reading this thread and getting a chuckle or two from some of the
> posts, but I think we country fans should keep things in perspective. What
> Kenny and Tim did was wrong, but compare it to what has happened among
> performers in other genres of music. I won't get into specifics, cause I don't
> want to be accused of anything; you all know what I'm talking about, I'm
> sure.....
>

You mean that nobody got shot? ;-)

Linda C.

Linda F. Cauthen

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greasemonkey wrote:
>
> Hey, we know a host of stars that have been in prison.
> David Allen Coe, Johnny Paycheck, Johnny Cash,

*Wrong.* You seem to have fallen for that urban legend that Cash got the
inspiration for his songs by "doing time." He didn't. He was arrested
for drugs once and for drunk/disorderly a few times but he never spent
more than a night in jail.

Merle Haggard......I think we
> have forgiven them. (If anyone knows more names, I'd like to know, and I'd
> like to know the crime they were accused of)

Does being "accused" automatically make them criminals? Don't you have

LyndsayF

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>Is it my imagination, or are you and I the only ones here who think that
>breaking the law is unacceptable, no matter who you are?>

Nope, I'm with you guys on this one!!

~Lyndsay

wer...@kerols.com

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On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 08:03:29 +1200, "Clark Reid" <clar...@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

>Don't give anyone any ideas!!!!

Doesn't AJ ride too? =;^)

wer...@kerols.com

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On 05 Jun 2000 01:54:58 GMT, prnzo...@aol.comjunkbloc (Prnzofthvs)
wrote:

>>It'll be interesting to see what's left in your record
>>collection if you apply that standard consistently.
>>
>>--
>>Craig

>Let's see....Annette Funicello sings Mickey Mouse's favorites? :o)
>
>Love your sig, BTW...

There goes my Partridge Family collection. =;^)

wer...@kerols.com

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On Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:56:11 -0400 (EDT), Reba...@webtv.net wrote:

>Now that is immature and they are supposed to be influences?? I am
>taking my Tim McGraw CD's and sending them straight back to the record
>company.
>

Maybe you should look for influential people somewhere other
than Tower Records.


Country Boy

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RACVB <ra...@ridgenet.net> wrote in article
<393B1CD6...@ridgenet.net>...
>
> Would somebody actually like to say
> "celebrities are
> special and are allowed to break the law and put other peoples lives and
> property in
> danger or jeopardy?
>
>

I think you're really exaggerating this. Who broke which laws? Kenny had
someone's permission to ride the horse. It didn't take place in the
parking lot. It took place backstage, which is supposed to be a controlled
location. And from what I read, the police over-reacted, and possibly so
did McGraw. I expect when this matter will be dropped very soon. The only
injuries here fall in the area of pride.


Country Boy

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Linda F. Cauthen <msl...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
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> greasemonkey wrote:
> >
> > Hey, we know a host of stars that have been in prison.
> > David Allen Coe, Johnny Paycheck, Johnny Cash,
>
> *Wrong.* You seem to have fallen for that urban legend that Cash got the
> inspiration for his songs by "doing time." He didn't. He was arrested
> for drugs once and for drunk/disorderly a few times but he never spent
> more than a night in jail.
>
>

And the facts in this case are that neither McGraw nor Chesney spent even
that much in jail. They were out on bail within six hours, on their way to
their next show. I've heard that Chesney was on stage on time, and in
great voice, by 4 PM Sunday afternoon.


Prnzofthvs

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dix posted:

>I am glad they finally did something wild and crazy for a change.
>Especially Tim. He's been acting too much like a wussy lately playing
>Mr. Faith Hill and singing sappy crappy songs and duets with the better
>half. I'm thinking alcohol probably contributed to his poor judgment in
>reacting to the situation. Alcohol, when combined with testosterone and
>adrenaline, often means trouble. I know.
>
>~~Dixon~~

And just when do you expect to get hired to be Tim's official apologist? You
seem to think that being drunk and feeling macho excuses illegal acts. I bet
drunk drivers and rapists just love you!

Steve(yes, I know; they didn't do anything that bad - just taking that argument
to its logical conclusion)

Prnzofthvs

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Maggie wrote:

>LOL....a friend of mine who is NOT sympathetic to the whole episode has
>suggested some possible songs from the
>incident:
> Idiot Outlaws
> Let's Make Bail
> She Thinks My Rap Sheet's Sexy
> Pleeeeeese......Don't Take The Horse
>
>Maggie (still laughing)

That's it! You owe me a new keyboard. This one's got coffee stains all over it.
Good thing for you the monitor screen cleaned up ok.....

Steve

Prnzofthvs

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Jun 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/5/00
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Country Boy misspoke himself thusly:

>I think you're really exaggerating this. Who broke which laws? Kenny had
>someone's permission to ride the horse.

When did "permission to sit on the horse" become "permission to ride away on
the horse?" If you can't even read the article and get the facts straight, you
shouldn't comment on the case.

Linda F. Cauthen

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RACVB wrote:
>
> greasemonkey wrote:
>
> > Hey, we know a host of stars that have been in prison.
> > David Allen Coe, Johnny Paycheck, Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard......I think we

> > have forgiven them. (If anyone knows more names, I'd like to know, and I'd
> > like to know the crime they were accused of)
> >
> > I think the stars all live in a prison of their own. They have their fame,
> > but they lack the everyday freedom the we all have. They can't go out in
> > public without being annoyed by fans and reporters. I don't envy them at
> > all. If they were 2 ordinary guys, they wouldn't have made the news. They
> > are just "stir-crazy".
>
> Okay, we're close but not quite there. Would somebody actually like to say

> "celebrities are
> special and are allowed to break the law and put other peoples lives and
> property in
> danger or jeopardy?
>
> Ray Artrhur

No, but it should not mean that they're singled out for harassment, either.

Linda C.

Prnzofthvs

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joeda so courteously quoted me, and said:

> However, cops tend to get pretty ticked off when
>someone physically attacks them. Like Steve said, they might
>not always be right, but they are always the cops.

Good thing for both of them that bad judgement isn't a felony, eh?

Prnzofthvs

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>
>You must realize that the simple act of laying a hand on a police
>officer can probably get you a charge of second degree assault. I look
>forward to hearing Kenny and Tim's side of the story.
>
>~~Dixon~~

Actually, the simple act of laying a hand on anyone is assault. You should have
seen management's reaction one day, when a supervisor grabbed me and tried to
take me somewhere. I went back to work; he got his ass chewed up one side and
down the other!

Linda F. Cauthen

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Prnzofthvs wrote:
>
> dix posted:
>
> >I am glad they finally did something wild and crazy for a change.
> >Especially Tim. He's been acting too much like a wussy lately playing
> >Mr. Faith Hill and singing sappy crappy songs and duets with the better
> >half. I'm thinking alcohol probably contributed to his poor judgment in
> >reacting to the situation. Alcohol, when combined with testosterone and
> >adrenaline, often means trouble. I know.
> >
> >~~Dixon~~
>
> And just when do you expect to get hired to be Tim's official apologist? You
> seem to think that being drunk and feeling macho excuses illegal acts. I bet
> drunk drivers and rapists just love you!
>
Where do you get your evidence that alcohol was involved? The charges
did not mention it.

Linda C.

Prnzofthvs

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CB:

>It didn't take place in the
>parking lot. It took place backstage, which is supposed to be a controlled
>location.

You seem to be the only source of this "fact." All the news reports have stated
that the incident took place in the parking lot. Care to substantiate your
claim that it took place backstage?

Prnzofthvs

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>This sounds more like a failure to communicate than a deliberate attempt
>to break the law.
>
>Linda C.

So, if I fail to recognize that a red light means stop, drive through the
intersection, and kill someone, it's okay, cause I didn't do it
deliberately......

impeccable logic, that...

SouthrnElf

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In article <01bfcea9$230099a0$4a71fd3f@default>, "Country Boy"
<UDL...@prodigy.com> writes:

>I think you're really exaggerating this. Who broke which laws? Kenny >had
someone's permission to ride the horse.

No he had someone's permission to SIT on the horse. I have had press releases
coming in off and on all day and that was addressed in at least one newspaper
where it clearly states that the lady told him NOT to ride the horse. Some of
the articles have a lot more detail then others but most have mentioned that.
Several tell that she told him to stop when he started moving away but that he
continued to ride away.

> It didn't take place in the
>parking lot. It took place backstage, which is supposed to be a >controlled
location.

Yes it did. The first reports didn't go into details and I assumed they chased
him on horseback since it was a mounted patrol but later stories said that the
police apprehending him had to go after him in their cruiser. I doubt they did
that backstage.

> And from what I read, the police over-reacted, and possibly so
>did McGraw. I expect when this matter will be dropped very soon. >The only
injuries here fall in the area of pride.
>

Tim has been charged with felony assault as well as three misdemeanors -
resisting arrest, menacing and obstructing governement administration. While
its very possible they may dismiss charges since I doubt he has ever done
anything like this before its also possible they may make an example of him
since he did hit a police officer.

SouthrnElf

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>Doesn't AJ ride too? =;^)
>

Don't let that hat confuse you, it started with his career. He never was a
cowboy. He rides a motorcycle but not a horse.

I have his first record from his pre Arista days and you should get a listen to
it if you want to hear something. Its hard to find though. I understand he
has worked to get as many copies out of circulation as he could and it doesn't
show up on his discography. Even though he really is from Georgia, AJ didn't
even have that Southern drawl then. I'm not sure if he was working hard to sing
without it on this particular record and later decided to be who he is or if
the drawl came on later. It sounds like a completely different guy signing and
I swear there is only a couple of places on the entire CD that he sounds at all
like he does now.

Debra

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