lookin for song "Older Women..."
Kristi Bittner
Hello,
I have a friend's birthday coming up, and I'm trying to find the
album with the song "Older women make beautiful lovers..." on it.
Does anybody know who sings this song, and what the album title is?
Thanks much!
(post or email is fine)
Kristi Bittner
Yaakov Kayman
Can't help with you with an album name, but the singer is Roddy McDowell.
Good song! (lot of truth in it :-)
Yaakov K. ("Y B")
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>Hello,
>Kristi Bittner
Sung by Ronnie McDowell, I think.
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> kri...@hpscdc.scd.hp.com (Kristi Bittner) writes:
>
>>I have a friend's birthday coming up, and I'm trying to find the
>>album with the song "Older women make beautiful lovers..." on it.
>>Does anybody know who sings this song, and what the album title is?
That song is by Steve Wariner. It's from his second album entitled
"Midnight Fire". It is an excellent album!!
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>From article <1990Jun20.1...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, by aind...@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Daiv Stoner):
>> kri...@hpscdc.scd.hp.com (Kristi Bittner) writes:
>>
>>>I have a friend's birthday coming up, and I'm trying to find the
>>>album with the song "Older women make beautiful lovers..." on it.
>>>Does anybody know who sings this song, and what the album title is?
>
> That song is by Steve Wariner. It's from his second album entitled
>"Midnight Fire". It is an excellent album!!
You're wrong. It WAS done first by Ronnie McDowell, and it was a few years
back. I don't have but one of his albums (the first) so I can't say which one.
But, "Midnight Fire" is a good album too.
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Mike Raustad
>You're wrong. It WAS done first by Ronnie McDowell, and it was a few years
>back. I don't have but one of his albums (the first) so I can't say which one.
So many songs, so many titles, so little time... :-)
Your right. I was thinking of "Lonely women make better lovers". Does
this mean that lonely, older women are *great* lovers? I guess we need
a song about older men. :-)
Melinda Shore
>this mean that lonely, older women are *great* lovers? I guess we need
>a song about older men. :-)
Minor nit: it's "Older women make good lovers."
Anyway, when I saw Emmylou Harris on her "Thirteen" tour, she introduced
"Sweetheart of the Pines" as her response to Ronnie McDowell's "Lonely
Women." Sure surprised me.
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Dale R. Shaver
>In article <127...@infocenter.encore.com> mrau...@encore.com (Mike Raustad) writes:
>> Your right. I was thinking of "Lonely women make better lovers". Does
>>this mean that lonely, older women are *great* lovers? I guess we need
>>a song about older men. :-)
>
>Minor nit: it's "Older women make good lovers."
You're both wrong. The Ronny McDowell song, "Older Women", goes:
Older women, are beautiful lovers, I said
Older women, they understand ...
The Steve Wariner tune, goes:
Lonely women make good lovers,
They're all at the mercy,
of a good lookin', smooth talkin' man...
Pat Van Hoomissen
>Minor nit: it's "Older women make good lovers."
>
^^^^ "beautiful" I thought..
I am writing my own country smash by the way. It starts with:
my dog died, my truck won't start, and my mama just out of prison..
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"I'm a terrific singer, I just have a lousy voice"
Jim Muller
>I am writing my own country smash by the way. It starts with:
>my dog died, my truck won't start, and my mama just out of prison..
You've been listening to David Allen Coe too much. (Apologies for spelling,
and for mixing him up, maybe, with someone else.) It's been done already.
--
- Jim Muller
Steve Carnes
>my dog died, my truck won't start, and my mama just out of prison..
You're a bit late. Goodman and Prine wrote:
I was drunk the day my mama got out of prison
and I went to pick her up in the rain
But before I could get to the station in my pickup
she got run over by a damned old train
or thereabouts... In a live recording, Goodman talked about writing a
song that would have trains, mama, getting drunk, holidays like Christmas,
and old dogs like Shep.
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American Southwest only the wilderness is worth saving -- we are going to need
all the recruits we can get." - Edward Abbey
Yaakov Kayman
Nope. No mixup (I'm also not sure if he spells his middle name with an E
or an A). With songs like "The Ride" and "You Never Even Called Me By My
Name," how can you listen to *too much* D.A.C.? :-)
>--
> - Jim Muller
Steve Goldfield
#>
#> pa...@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Pat Van Hoomissen) writes:
#>>I am writing my own country smash by the way. It starts with:
#>>my dog died, my truck won't start, and my mama just out of prison..
#>
#>You're a bit late. Goodman and Prine wrote:
#> I was drunk the day my mama got out of prison
#> and I went to pick her up in the rain
#> But before I could get to the station in my pickup
#> she got run over by a damned old train
(should be "pickup truck")
#>
#>or thereabouts... In a live recording, Goodman talked about writing a
#>song that would have trains, mama, getting drunk, holidays like Christmas,
#>and old dogs like Shep.
#>--
#>Steve Carnes car...@ico.isc.com uucp: {ncar,nbires}!ico!carnes
In David Allan Coe's version, he claims that Goodman wrote the
song for him and told him it was the perfect country song. Coe
says he told Goodman that it wasn't the perfect country song
because it didn't talk about mama, prison, trucks, or trains.
Coe says Goodman wrote the extra verse, which made it the
perfect country song. (Song title is "You never even call me by
my name.")
Steve Goldfield
Pat Van Hoomissen
> I was drunk the day my mama got out of prison
> and I went to pick her up in the rain
> But before I could get to the station in my pickup
> she got run over by a damned old train
>
>or thereabouts... In a live recording, Goodman talked about writing a
>song that would have trains, mama, getting drunk, holidays like Christmas,
>and old dogs like Shep.
>--
>Steve Carnes car...@ico.isc.com uucp: {ncar,nbires}!ico!carnes
>"To save what wilderness is left in the American Southwest -- and in the
> American Southwest only the wilderness is worth saving -- we are going to need
> all the recruits we can get." - Edward Abbey
Yeah, but did his dog die? And his truck started! Geez, can't a guy rip off
a few lyrics - everyone else gets away with it. That was kind of the gist of
my posting - that a lot of country songs sound darn similar..
Here are some favorite lyrics that I've saved (but I'm not a redneck, really..)
Followed by a crude cowboy joke (you may wanna hit "n" now..)
Dang me, dang me, they ought to take a rope and hang me
...my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun
I'd rather step in shit than smoke it
Who wants to brave those bronzed beauties, lyin' in the sun,
with their long soft hair a fallin', flyin' as they run.
Oh they smile so shy and they flirt so well, and they'(ll) lay you down so fast,
till you look straight up and say, "Oh Lord, is it really here at last!"
lookin for love in all the wrong places
put another log on the fire
fix the flat tire on my car
cut me up some bacon and some beans
...
don't I always take your kid sister for a ride (most ev'ry night)
...
then come sit at my feet and tell me why your leavin me
he respects old age...
when it comes in a bottle!
If I said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me
You two are a pair to draw to
He stopped lovin' her today
Baby I'm yours, I'll love you always.
I'm gonna stand by you until the end of time.
Remember all of the good things that we shared together
signed, love Betty... 1959
'cuz I got memories to burn
The only two things in life that make it worth living,
are guitars that tune good and firm feelin' women.
Her name was Ann and I'll be damned if I recall her face...
and I'll tell you ol' friend,
that ol' high line sure gets risky
missin' you, hatin' him, and drinkin'.
boy's say when is he gonna give us some room,
the girls say god I hope he comes back soon.
cryin in my beer.
Ray Wally Hubbard
we say grace, and we say ma'am,
if you aint into that we don't give a damn.
wake me up early, be good to my dogs,
and teach my children to pray.
yesterday is dead and gone,
and tomorrow's out of sight...
rednecks, white socks, and blue ribbon beer.
I was sittin' in Friday's suckin' on a glass of wine
when in walked this gal that almost struck me blind
she had wet blue eyes and her legs were long and fine
on a scale of one to ten I'd give her a nine
.
.
.
so I flashed her a smile but she didn't even look at me
so for brains and good judgement I gave her a 3
someone took a grapefruit, wore it like a hat,
I saw someone under my kitchen table talkin' to my old tom cat,
they were talkin' 'bouta hockey,
that cat was talkin' back,
long 'bout then everything went black.
wasn't that a party.
she's acting single, I'm drinkin' doubles.
he's thirty-four and drinkin' in a honky-tonk,
just a kickin' hippies asses and raising hell.
if I could rate on a scale from one to ten,
I'm lookin' for a nine, but eight could work right in,
a few more drinks and I might slip to five or even four,
but when tommorow mornin' comes, and I wake up with a number one,
I'll swear I'll do it anymore...
... and the girls all get prettier at closin' time...
... and puts a glow on every face of those fallen angels of the back street bars
You don't care about what I think...
Think I'll just stay here and drink.
I hocked my wife's diamond ring last june,
bought me an outboard evinrude.
so I got one eye on my lady love,
but there's always on eye still on that open road.
Hey I was country when country wasn't cool.
Ah bu duh.. It's the end of another go 'round
I can see by the look in our eyes that its finally
windin' down to the end of the long, wrong
time out on the trail it seems its time we were headed for
beddy-bye and dreams of...
I'm headed for the o.d. corral
Yeah well it won't be but a week or two
and you'll be out lovin' someone new
must have happened a hundered times by now
and I can see you've been spreadin' yourself thin too
it's a lonely stage we've been goin through
but don't get up I can find my own way to the door
and I can see you are an angel
who's wings just won't unfold
so tune up your harp
and polish your old halo
yeah the only kind of man that you ever wanted
was the one that you jknew you'd never hold very long
sittin' there cryin' like I'm the first one to go
yeah I'm always takin' the right road after awhile
Yeah I got it one piece at a time
and it didn't cost me a dime
kiss an angel good mornin'
and let her know you think about her when you're gone
kiss an angel good mornin'
and love her like the devil when you get back home
you act like you were just born tonight
face down in a memory but feelin alright
so who does your past belong to today
baby you don't say nuthin when you're feeling this way
the girls in the bars thinkin who is this guy
but they don't they think nuthin when they're tellin you lies
you look so careless when they're shootin that bull
don't you know heartaches are heroes when their pockets are full
just tell em you're tryin to cure a 7 year ache
see what else your old heart can take
the boys say when is he gonna give us some room
the girls say God I hope he comes back soon
everybody's talkin but you don't hear a thing
your still updown on your downhill swing
boulevards empty why don't you come around
baby what is so great about sleepin downtown
plenty of time to be someone your not
you say you're lookin for somethin you might have forgot
so don't bother calling to say you're leaving alone
cuz theres a fool on every corner when you're tryin to get home
just tell em you're tryin to cure a 7 year ache
see what else your old heart can take
the boys say when is he gonna give us some room
the girls say God I hope he comes back soon
there's just too many rivers to cross babe
all you gotta do is keep on trying
you gotta smile now and then keep from crying
the only sure things are taxes and dying
but your lovin' makes living worth while
all my exes live in texas
I wanna live fast, love hard, die young, and leave a beautiful memory.
well there's nothin' in the nation like a weeks vacation
cold beer, no tears, you can take me anywhere
the thing to do a time or two well that's the thing to do here
gonna have a time my oh my, I'll pretend I've known you all along
weeks fly by, baby by, please don't cry
vacation time, anywhere U.S.A.
well get me outa here girl I said pack your bags let's go
cheapalo mexico catchin' all the night shows
sleepin' in your day clothes, livin' on the no-doz
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Why aren't cowboys circumsized?
So they have someplace to put their chew when they brush their teeth!
Dan Parmenter
>>I am writing my own country smash by the way. It starts with:
>>my dog died, my truck won't start, and my mama just out of prison..
>
>You're a bit late. Goodman and Prine wrote:
> I was drunk the day my mama got out of prison
> and I went to pick her up in the rain
> But before I could get to the station in my pickup
> she got run over by a damned old train
>
>or thereabouts... In a live recording, Goodman talked about writing a
>song that would have trains, mama, getting drunk, holidays like Christmas,
>and old dogs like Shep.
Now wait a second here. I always thought that was by David Allen Coe, and
others seem to concur. Or perhaps DAC covers the song? I'm
completely confused here. And I think it's "mom" not "mama"
but I could be wrong.
- Dan
Eric Holeman
(Dan Parmenter) writes:
>Now wait a second here. I always thought that was by David Allen Coe, and
>others seem to concur.
They're wrong. You'll recall that in his hit version of the song, Coe
credits Steve Goodman with the song, but disputed Steve's original claim that
it was the perfect country song. Steve then added the last verse, which
Coe conceded made it the perfect country song.
>Or perhaps DAC covers the song? I'm
>completely confused here. And I think it's "mom" not "mama"
>but I could be wrong.
Steve always had fun with the song, and it varied quite a bit whenever
he sang it. If you're interested in hearing him sing it, check out
his album "Artistic Hair", which has a live version (recorded,
incidentally, for the HBO special "Johnny Cash's America") in which
Steve does credible imitations of Hank Williams, George Jones, and a
steel guitar solo.
Steve Goodman, incidentally, also penned "City of New Orleans".
He died of leukemia in 1984.
rediscovering joie de vivre
>I am writing my own country smash by the way. It starts with:
>
>my dog died, my truck won't start, and my mama just out of prison..
I think you've been beaten to the punch. There's a song by David Allen
Coe that they like to play on our local oddball country station, KPIG.
The song is called (approximately) "You Don't Even Call Me By My Name",
and he introduces the last verse with a spoken part in which he explains
how, after he wrote this song, he told a friend (I think he says it was
Steve Goodman) that he thought he'd just written the greatest country
song ever. His friend said that couldn't be true, since it didn't
mention mama, prison, trains, pickup trucks, or getting drunk. David
thought about it, then wrote this verse:
"I was drunk the day that Mama got out of prison
And I went out to meet her in the rain;
But before I got the pickup to the station,
She got run over by a darned old train."
Geez, I hope I haven't mangled it too badly...
-- Stewart
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Steve Goldfield
#>>
#>> pa...@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Pat Van Hoomissen) writes:
#>>>I am writing my own country smash by the way. It starts with:
#>>>my dog died, my truck won't start, and my mama just out of prison..
#>>
#>>You're a bit late. Goodman and Prine wrote:
#>> I was drunk the day my mama got out of prison
#>> and I went to pick her up in the rain
#>> But before I could get to the station in my pickup
#>> she got run over by a damned old train
#>>
#>>or thereabouts... In a live recording, Goodman talked about writing a
#>>song that would have trains, mama, getting drunk, holidays like Christmas,
#>>and old dogs like Shep.
#>
#>Now wait a second here. I always thought that was by David Allen Coe, and
#>others seem to concur. Or perhaps DAC covers the song? I'm
#>completely confused here. And I think it's "mom" not "mama"
#>but I could be wrong.
#>
#>- Dan
In the version played on the radio around here, Coe says that his
friend Steve Goodman wrote the song. (He says it in the intro
to the last verse.)
Steve Goldfield
Mike Raustad
Getting this group on USENET was my last item to do before I left my
company to go into business for myself in Central Florida. This will be
my last post until I can get settled and get public access to USENET. I'm
very happy with the way this group has takin' off and I know you people
will have a lot of fun with it. It won't be long until I talk to you
again here. Take it easy...
From article <52...@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>, by pa...@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Pat Van Hoomissen):
> Dang me, dang me, they ought to take a rope and hang me
Roger Miller
> lookin for love in all the wrong places
Johnny Lee
> If I said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me
Bellamy Brothers
> He stopped lovin' her today
George Jones
> Baby I'm yours, I'll love you always.
> signed, love Betty... 1959
John anderson
> The only two things in life that make it worth living,
> are guitars that tune good and firm feelin' women.
Waylon
> Her name was Ann and I'll be damned if I recall her face...
Hank Jr.
> boy's say when is he gonna give us some room,
> the girls say god I hope he comes back soon.
Roseanne Cash
> Ray Wally Hubbard
Jerry jeff Walker
> we say grace, and we say ma'am,
> if you aint into that we don't give a damn.
Hank Jr.
> wake me up early, be good to my dogs,
> and teach my children to pray.
John Anderson
> someone took a grapefruit, wore it like a hat,
The Rovers
> he's thirty-four and drinkin' in a honky-tonk,
> just a kickin' hippies asses and raising hell.
Jerry jeff Walker
> ... and the girls all get prettier at closin' time...
Mickey Gilley
> You don't care about what I think...
> Think I'll just stay here and drink.
Merle Haggard
> Hey I was country when country wasn't cool.
Barbara Mandrell
> you act like you were just born tonight
Roseanne cash
> all my exes live in texas
George Strait
Steve Carnes
sh...@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Holeman) writes:
>If you're interested in hearing him sing it, check out his album "Artistic
>of Hank Williams, George Jones, and a steel guitar solo.
This album also has an amusing live version of "Winter Wonderland," where he
agrees to do the song, but confesses he doesn't really remember the words, so
someone in the first row feeds him the verses, which he modifies on the fly.
>Steve Goodman, incidentally, also penned "City of New Orleans".
>He died of leukemia in 1984.
My all-time favorite singer/songwriter/entertainer, next to GP, of course...
The album was called "Artistic Hair," I'm guessing, because the radiation (or
chemo?) therapy had prompted much hair loss. They found some old run-down
clip joint and took his picture in front of it.
There was a Jethro Burns public tv special a few years back that featured
Steve quite prominently -- what a joy to watch those two clowns working
together! (If Goodman had been born 30 years earlier, wouldn't he have made
a good Homer??)
Axel Fischer
If I had my way with people selling dope
I'd take a big tall tree and a short piece of rope
And I'd hang them up high
And let them swing 'til the sun goes down
(Charlie Daniels Band / Simple Man)
-Axel
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>My all-time favorite singer/songwriter/entertainer, next to GP, of course...
Has anyone else heard that Steve Goodman's ashes are in an urn
beneath home plate at Wrigley Field in Chicago? This could be
just a rumor, sparked by his song "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request".
dale
P.S., to Steve Carnes: Who's GP? Graham Parsons?
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Pat Van Hoomissen
>> Her name was Ann and I'll be damned if I recall her face...
>Hank Jr.
>
Steve Carnes
and I turn on The Nashville Network last night just in time to hear Ralph
("This one's for *you*, Ralph!") Emery introduce David Allan Coe who comes
out looking bizarre in black with huge amounts of turquoise and what does
he sing but "You Never Even Call Me By My Name," complete with talky part
about who wrote it and ever'thang.
Clark Burdick
Gordon Lightfoot
Eric Holeman
>As a huge c&w fan myself I'd like to add:
>If I had my way with people selling dope
>I'd take a big tall tree and a short piece of rope
>And I'd hang them up high
>And let them swing 'til the sun goes down
> (Charlie Daniels Band / Simple Man)
Me, I prefer the Charlie of the good old days who could mind his own
business and write lyrics like
"...I don't want much of nothing at all,
But I will take another toke....
...If you don't like the way I'm living,
why don'tcha just leave this long haired country boy alone."
I guess different rules apply to Charlie than apply to other people.
Perhaps this explains why Charlie doesn't get much airplay in Seattle
these days.
John J. Wood
When Charlie Daniels first burst into the music business, he was a session
player for artists like Bob Dylan. His earlier albums, while having many
traces of country, were really classified in the "southern rock" genre:
in the same way as the Marshall Tucker Band.
Like the MTB, when southern rock became more hard-rock oriented, and less
country and blues oriented (example: Molly Hatchet), Charlie Daniels
referred to straight country, and of course, some of his personal attitudes
changed with time over well; as he is a human being.
Question: is Charlie Daniels ever going to tour the northeast United States
again?? I do remember catching an excellent show at Syracuse in '84. :-)
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When life on earth is through, I'll be needing you..."
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Real Simple. Gordon Lightfoot, 'Carefree Highway'. Lots of others have also
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NCR Peripherial Products Div.
Wichita Ks.
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Roger Kaufman
>recorded it. Next please.
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>Tim Snider
>NCR Peripherial Products Div.
>Wichita Ks.
>tsn...@wichita.NCR.COM
Way to nail it, Tim!
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