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mslinda

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Feb 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/24/99
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LilSmart1 wrote:
>
> Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
> My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
> "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
>
That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure Chest.

Linda C.


LilSmart1

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
"Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"

And my brother summed up what I, and probably most of you, thought of her song
selection: "I thought Shania Twain sang country??"

Wrong!

As for me, I'm cheering over Sheryl Crow's best rock album win. And I'm
cheering over the new haircut.

-Julie
It was so much easier before you became you;
Now you don't bring me anything but down.
-Sheryl Crow, "Anything But Down"

BigMac7OHR

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
>My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
>"Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"

Now we all know what shanIa does at night, and how she got to the top so fast,
heh heh...

shanIa: Simply a whore - and it shows!

Debbie
The Official Exposers of shanIa's Phoniness (webpage coming soon!)
Member - Official Exposers of jordon's Foolishess
SKF 9 of 9


BigMac7OHR

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
>of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure Chest.

Debbie has always suspected shanIa was a domineering woman, but had no idea
shanIa was into whips and chains, heh heh....

Susan Hodge

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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She looked ridiculous, a disgrace to country music. Shania go to POP or
whatever and let us see the "real country artists" - the traditional country
stars are surely laughing and shaking their heads at her.
In article <19990225033032...@ng109.aol.com>

bigma...@aol.com (BigMac7OHR) writes:

>
>>Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
>>My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
>>"Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
>
>Now we all know what shanIa does at night, and how she got to the top so fast,
>heh heh...
>
>shanIa: Simply a whore - and it shows!
>

Tim

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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mslinda wrote:

>
> LilSmart1 wrote:
> >
> > Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
> > My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
> > "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
> >
> That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
> of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure Chest.
>

Just listen to yourselves. Hatred spewed of. This is the news group
that somebody mistook for being "Christian"?

I didn't like Ms. Twain's little song nor did I find it very
country, but if you listen to the words the outfit (which I didn't
like either) make a little sense. But instead of trying to
understand you critize.

Why don't we look at the good stuff? Dixie Chicks won with an
honest album. Hopefully this is a sign of where country is headed
in the next year. (And note despite rumors they stated they are
in the studio recording a new album.)

tim

Allan Wishart

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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Interesting how none of the anti-Shania group here has anything to say about how
the same designer apparently outfit at least two of the Dixie Chicks, who were the
next ones up on stage.


LilSmart1 wrote:

> Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
> My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
> "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
>

Luvless

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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BigMac7OHR wrote:
>
> >Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?

Yes, and I loved it!

> >My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up
> best:
> >"Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"

And probably the only reason he commented on it at all is because he
liked what he saw. But he wouldn't want his daughter to know that.

> Now we all know what shanIa does at night, and how she got to the top
> so fast,
> heh heh...
>
> shanIa: Simply a whore - and it shows!

Just because she dresses like a slut doesn't necessarily mean she is
one. Do you think all those pretty boys on CMT wearing cowboy hats and
boots are really cowboys? Yeah, right.

-Luvless

Stan Jensen

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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On 25 Feb 1999 05:33:34 GMT, lils...@aol.comparty (LilSmart1) wrote:

>Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?

>My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
>"Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
>

>And my brother summed up what I, and probably most of you, thought of her song
>selection: "I thought Shania Twain sang country??"
>
>Wrong!

All I know is .... "Schwiing!'

>As for me, I'm cheering over Sheryl Crow's best rock album win. And I'm
>cheering over the new haircut.

Who's Sheryl Crow? Maybe I'm one of the older people who don't know
these "new" bands

Stan Jensen

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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On 25 Feb 1999 08:35:24 GMT, bigma...@aol.com (BigMac7OHR) wrote:

>>That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
>>of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure Chest.
>

>Debbie has always suspected shanIa was a domineering woman, but had no idea
>shanIa was into whips and chains, heh heh....

Jealous?

BigMac7OHR

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>>Debbie has always suspected shanIa was a domineering woman, but had no idea
>>shanIa was into whips and chains, heh heh....
>
>Jealous?

Debbie is not jealous of the Phony and greedy shanIa. What does that little
b**** have that I want? An overgrown ego? A bad attitude? Excessive greed?

*flush*

Terri

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BigMac7OHR wrote in message

>Debbie is not jealous of the Phony and greedy shanIa. What does that little
>b**** have that I want? An overgrown ego? A bad attitude? Excessive greed?


You know, almost every field of psychological study will tell you that
speaking of yourself in the third person is almost certainly a sign of
serious mental illness.

--
Sister Terri,
Xena-lovin', X-Files-addicted, lesbo-feminist-tree-hugging-dyke-bitch.

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Cher received 212 fan letters proposing marriage.

Seventy-seven were from women.

Email is really xfa...@mwonline.net (harassing email will be posted).
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BigMac7OHR

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>She looked ridiculous, a disgrace to country music. Shania go to POP or
>whatever and let us see the "real country artists" - the traditional country
>stars are surely laughing and shaking their heads at her.

shanIa's foolish hooker costume was a disgrace to many things: Country music,
the Grammys, and women in general. Debbie thought the CMA outfit was bad, this
was downright tasteless. Debbie is convinced that either shanIa thought it was
the auditions for Pretty Woman II, or shanIa was revealing what kind of
relationship she and Mutt really have... Except instead of "Honey I'm hone and
I've had a hard day", it's more like "Honey I'm home, bend over while I give
you ten whacks"... Heh heh...

Those who aren't laughing at shanIa are too busy puking at her disgusting
display.. Debbie sat there for 15 minutes afterwards, shaking Debbie's head in
disbelief.. What a disgusting display!

Though, there are reports out (unconfirmed) that shanIa is indeed leaving
country music... Good riddance, Phony shanIa!

BigMac7OHR

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>Just listen to yourselves. Hatred spewed of. This is the news group
>that somebody mistook for being "Christian"?

Debbie would not know - Debbie is not Christian.

Also, Debbie does not hate Phony shanIa, just shanIa's phoniess, overgrown ego,
and greed.

>I didn't like Ms. Twain's little song nor did I find it very
>country, but if you listen to the words the outfit (which I didn't
>like either) make a little sense. But instead of trying to
>understand you critize.

The outfit would've bee more fitting if shanIa were doing a remake of Depeche
Mode's "Master and Servant". Or Oingo Boingo's "Violent Love"... Or maybe if
Phony shanIa had altered the song to "Man! I Feel Like A Dominatrix!".. There
was nothing "womanly" or "sexy" about her outfit. It was flat out trashy.

shanIa: Simply a tramp.

BigMac7OHR

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>You know, almost every field of psychological study will tell you that
>speaking of yourself in the third person is almost certainly a sign of
>serious mental illness.

Debbie views psychologists as a sham.

Besides, to understand why Debbie refers to Debbie in the third person, you
would have to go back to the end of the beginning.

Richard and Barbara Sherrill

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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If Debbie doesn't stop refering to herself .. I am going to find my
baseball bat... gees, my two year old twin nieces doesn't refer to
themselves that much ... get a grip!

Barbara

BigMac7OHR <bigma...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19990225095201...@ng34.aol.com>...


> >>Debbie has always suspected shanIa was a domineering woman, but had no
idea
> >>shanIa was into whips and chains, heh heh....
> >
> >Jealous?
>

> Debbie is not jealous of the Phony and greedy shanIa. What does that
little

> b**** have that I want? An overgrown ego? A bad attitude? Excessive
greed?
>
> *flush*

Richard and Barbara Sherrill

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mslinda <msl...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
<36D4F22D...@earthlink.net>...


> LilSmart1 wrote:
> >
> > Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
> > My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up
best:
> > "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
> >

> That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
> of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure
Chest.
>

> Linda C.
>
>
Linda... I thought it came from Fredricks of Hollywood !!!!!!

Barbara

Richard and Barbara Sherrill

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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I promise you Luvless, If I caught my daughter in an outfit like that ...
even if she was 21 ... She wouldn't make it to her next birthday !! Gees,
I am thankful .. I am rasing my girl to become a lady ....

Barbara

Luvless <luv...@shentel.net> wrote in article
<36D55A86...@shentel.net>...


> BigMac7OHR wrote:
> >
> > >Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
>

> Yes, and I loved it!
>

> > >My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up
> > best:
> > >"Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
>

BigMac7OHR

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>If Debbie doesn't stop refering to herself .. I am going to find my
>baseball bat... gees, my two year old twin nieces doesn't refer to
>themselves that much ... get a grip!

Violence is foolish and weak. Giving into you violent urges is a sign of giving
into the dark side of the force.

Make love, not war.....

"Can't we all just get along?" - Rodney King
"No!" - Phony shanIa

BigMac7OHR

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>I promise you Luvless, If I caught my daughter in an outfit like that ...
>even if she was 21 ... She wouldn't make it to her next birthday !! Gees,
>I am thankful .. I am rasing my girl to become a lady ....

I am pleased to hear this. I'm glad to know there are parents out there who
won't let their daughters go out dressed like a hooker/dominatrix because one
of their idols does so in an awards show broadcasted worldwide...

Yes, raise you daughter to be a lady, not a tramp.. shanIa is nothing but a
tramp.

(And I do apologize for all the third-party posts. Bad habit, and a long story.
It comes from my Usenet activity in a number of other newsgroups, and after a
while it tends to become a bad habit...

Besides, it's sure annoyed the users of alt.fan.shania-twain, heh heh)

Scott Cason

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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mslinda wrote:

>
> LilSmart1 wrote:
> >
> > Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
> > My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
> > "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
> >
> That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
> of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure Chest.

What network was the Grammys on? I was thinking ABC was carring it.
The sooner Shania jumps to pop the happier I'll be to get her out of
country.

--
Rgds,
Scott in Louisville
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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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In article <19990225003334...@ng-fx1.aol.com>, lils...@aol.comparty (LilSmart1) writes:

|>
|> As for me, I'm cheering over Sheryl Crow's best rock album win. And I'm
|> cheering over the new haircut.
|>

A "country music" album winning for best rock-n-roll album...Gram Parsons
must be smiling somewhere this morning.

--
Gerald


BigMac7OHR

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>Rocky is concerned for Debbie.

Why? I should be the one concerned for you...

>Rocky thinks Debbie shows an immense jealousy of someone who probably has
>everything Debbie wants - talent, attractiveness, intelligence, an ability to

Bwahahaha... I think I'm going to bust a rib laughing....

I am NOT jealous of Phony shanIa in any way, shape, manner or form.. Why does
everything think someone is jealous when they speak out against someone?

I do not find Phony shanIa attractive.. Since I have no desire to be a
musician, I don't want musical talent - which shanIa has none of anyways!

And if shanIa is intelligent, she sure doesn't show it very much

*flush*

>communicate and exist within the company of other people, and the incentive

She sure doesn't know how to communicate with her fans, does she??

*flush*

>Rocky thinks Debbie is as nutty as a fruitcake and makes Stella look normal
>(except when Stella is making fun of the mentally challenged - and Debbie
>better watch out or Stella will be impersonating her.).

I am quite sane, and a million times more sane than crazy Stella.

>Rocky thinks the idea of him defending Shania is as far from what might be
>predicted as is Bill Clinton becoming celibate.

Then why defend someone of such little talent and poor character traits?

>Rocky thinks Shania has a modicum of talent, great promotion, good stage
>presence, and is simply marketing as any artists would.

But the thing is, all there is to shanIa IS marketing. There's no substance.
It's shanIa the sex kitten looking like a tramp onstage. It's shanIa and her
phony "I love my fans" act. It's poor shanIa and "My heartache". If shanIa had
a normal background and weighed 200 pounds, she'd be out of a career by now.

*flush*

>Rocky thinks using sex as a selling point is as old as women in country music

But at least these other women in country music have talent and substance to
back up their sexy image...

>(and Rocky wonders if anyone here ever saw any early pictures of Goldie Hill
>and Jean Shepard? Knockouts.) Rocky thinks Shania's looks are a major
>selling
>point for her and she would be a fool not to use that advantage.

They're not a major point, they're the ONLY point... shanIa has as much musical
talent as Cindy Crawford (probably less!).

>Rocky thinks the costume was not that bad.

If the Grammys were a B&D scene, the costume would fit in quite well. For a
"country" music performance, it was a disgraceful joke!

>Rocky thinks people who write about themselves in the third person all the
>time
>are just being plain silly.

And there's a reason for it, but sometimes it turns into a bad habit....

Luvless

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Terri wrote:
>
> You know, almost every field of psychological study will tell you that
> speaking of yourself in the third person is almost certainly a sign of
> serious mental illness.

With Bob Dole being the exception to the rule.

-Luvless

SouthrnElf

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>
>Interesting how none of the anti-Shania group here has anything to say about
>how
>the same designer apparently outfit at least two of the Dixie Chicks, who
>were the
>next ones up on stage.


True but at least they kept their legs together.

Brian Rodgers

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If you missed the show, here's an URL to see a photo of Shania in her
little outfit:

http://www.grammy.com/images/home/photos/07251.jpg

When I read the criticism of Shania's outfit, I expected the outfit to
look trampy (Shania's not the most modest country artist in the world),
but I didn't expect it to look that bad. However, it DOES look like
something you'd expect to see on a hooker. THIS is what we want
contemporary country to look like? I don't think so.

I'm a man. I think Shania IS sexy. However, I'm not going to defend her
or her music just because I think she's attractive. I think anyone is
silly for liking a supposed musical artist primarily because of their
looks, and sadly, if it weren't for Shania's looks, I'd be willing to be
my left gonad that she wouldn't be where she is today. Music should be
about music first, not the wrapping that the singer was born in.

You can say that sex appeal has always been an aspect of country music,
and I won't argue with you. However, Ms. Twain is just pushing it, along
with the definition of modern country music, much too far. She needs to
"go pop," leave country behind her, and be done with it.

Regards,

Brian Rodgers
rod...@netexp.net
Grove City, Ohio


Janna

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Yes I thought what they had on was awful!

-Janna


Allan Wishart wrote in message <36D55BA4...@bc.sympatico.ca>...


>Interesting how none of the anti-Shania group here has anything to say
about how
>the same designer apparently outfit at least two of the Dixie Chicks, who
were the
>next ones up on stage.
>
>

>LilSmart1 wrote:
>
>> Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
>> My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up
best:
>> "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
>>

>> And my brother summed up what I, and probably most of you, thought of her
song
>> selection: "I thought Shania Twain sang country??"
>>
>> Wrong!
>>

>> As for me, I'm cheering over Sheryl Crow's best rock album win. And I'm
>> cheering over the new haircut.
>>

SWBRulz

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I had school last night, so I missed the Grammy's and had no clue what you all
were talking about...

...and then I was flipping the channels and caught a clip on CNN...YIKES! Has
she no decency? And of course, the local male DJs are going crazy. "Wow! Did
you see that outfit she had on last night? Didn't she look GREAT?"

{sigh} I don't think I would ever degrade myself by even TRYING to wear
something like that. I've got better morals than that.

SWBRulz

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>Why does
>everything think someone is jealous when they speak out against someone?

Because "Debbie" seems to be obsessing over this and repeats her hatred for
Shania in every other post.

L. King

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You all need to get a grip!!!! Can we say SHOW BUSINESS!!! You are so
jealous of Shania. Maybe what she wore wasn't the best outfit, but do not
let that lessen her talent. The woman can sing and the woman can write and
compose. She just knows how to market herself in order to be successful.

Everyone said the same thing of Madonna years ago. Now we all marvel at how
wonderfully she promoted herself and her craft.

I am a woman and was not in the least insulted by Shania's performance, nor
do I think she is a phony. I am proud that she is a woman making her way in
the business HER WAY.. ... If you don't like her, don't buy her music.
But obviously people do, she sells the albums, and her songs are
consistently on the #1 positions.

Lighten up will ya???

Lisa

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>
>In article <19990225003334...@ng-fx1.aol.com>,
lils...@aol.comparty (LilSmart1) writes:
>
>|>

>|> As for me, I'm cheering over Sheryl Crow's best rock album win. And I'm
>|> cheering over the new haircut.
>|>
>

Dana Carpender

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Brian Rodgers wrote:

> If you missed the show, here's an URL to see a photo of Shania in her
> little outfit:
>
> http://www.grammy.com/images/home/photos/07251.jpg
>

Gee, looks like something I'd wear, if I were lucky enough to have Shania's
body...

Dana (Bad Girl Emeritus)


BRCRocks

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I did not watch the Grammy's last night, but I did just check out the pic a
Shania's outfit. Hope she didn't move too much on stage, I'd be afraid of
falling out of that thing.

As for her music, I generally don't mind it. I do think it is more 'pop'
oinented that country, but she sure is not the first to do that.

Concerning her using sex to sell....I think she would be more attractive if she
left a little bit more to the imagination.

Tim

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Brian Rodgers wrote:
>
> If you missed the show, here's an URL to see a photo of Shania in her

I don't think so.


>
> I'm a man. I think Shania IS sexy. However, I'm not going to defend her
> or her music just because I think she's attractive. I think anyone is
> silly for liking a supposed musical artist primarily because of their
> looks, and sadly, if it weren't for Shania's looks, I'd be willing to be
> my left gonad that she wouldn't be where she is today.

There are 100's of people who look as good or better than Shania.
If looks was all it takes then why are they not super stars?

Shania's lyrics speak to some people. She says things that other
country artist don't and in ways others don't. I don't like
her myself, but she offers more than just looks.

And do you think the Judds would have big stars if they had
warts and were 400 pounds? Or Reba? Or Tanya? Or.... Name
one major star male or woman that was fat and unattractive when
they first became stars (they are a few, but not many).

This Shania is only big cause of her looks is BS. It's just
part of bigger package and looks have been important for years.

tim

Scott

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Terri wrote:
>
> You know, almost every field of psychological study will tell you that
> speaking of yourself in the third person is almost certainly a sign of
> serious mental illness.

Then I was right about Garth!! I knew it!!

Brian Rodgers

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Tim wrote:

> Brian Rodgers wrote:
> >
> > If you missed the show, here's an URL to see a photo of Shania in her
>
> I don't think so.

What do you mean you don't think so? You don't think it's her? According to
the Grammy site, it's her, and I would take their word for it over yours or,
for that matter, mine.

> > I'm a man. I think Shania IS sexy. However, I'm not going to defend her
> > or her music just because I think she's attractive. I think anyone is
> > silly for liking a supposed musical artist primarily because of their
> > looks, and sadly, if it weren't for Shania's looks, I'd be willing to be
> > my left gonad that she wouldn't be where she is today.
>
> There are 100's of people who look as good or better than Shania.
> If looks was all it takes then why are they not super stars?

Okay, Tim, I know you've had to read some of my other posts, but I'll explain
it again. First of all, "they" didn't marry a well-connected, well-known,
respected producer in the music industry. Second, they don't have the hype
machine behind them that Shania has. Third, Shania has a sob story that hooks
some people. Fourth, "they" don't emphasize it or play on it NEARLY as much as
Shania does.

> Shania's lyrics speak to some people. She says things that other
> country artist don't and in ways others don't. I don't like
> her myself, but she offers more than just looks.
>
> And do you think the Judds would have big stars if they had
> warts and were 400 pounds?

Um, Wynona was never what most guys would call a "sex symbol."

> Or Reba?

Okay, she's attractive, but not that attractive, especially in recent years.
She's not so attractive that guys are drawn to her for her looks.

> Or Tanya?

Maybe she's just not my cup of tea (or, for that matter, the cup of tea for
most of the guys I know), but I know few men who have ever fallen all over her
like many guys do for Shania.

> Or.... Name
> one major star male or woman that was fat and unattractive when
> they first became stars (they are a few, but not many).

Do yourself a favor -- go back and look at books like the Encyclopedia of
Country Music. You'll see a lot of major female country stars who weren't what
most men would consider "sex kittens."

> This Shania is only big cause of her looks is BS.

Please! If she looked like, oh, Alison Krauss, Mutt would have never married
her, guys wouldn't be fawning all over her, and she would be yet another
country music also-ran. (By the way, for someone that's not a fan of Shania,
Tim, you certainly are a quick one to jump to her defense. Look out -- I think
your fan club card is showing -- wait, Shania disbanded that, didn't she? ;-)
)

> It's just
> part of bigger package and looks have been important for years.

It's a HUGE part of that package. Why not come out on the Grammy's in
something more modest. "If you've got it, flaunt it?" Sorry, but there have
been plenty of sexy women in music throughout history who didn't feel the need
to flaunt it as often or as intensely as Shania does. It's basically an
admission by Shania and her PR staff that her sex appeal IS Shania's primary
selling point.

Looks are only important if fans allow it to be important. It's a damn shallow
reason to like an artist. It IS supposed to be about the music.

Coop

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Richard and Barbara Sherrill wrote:

> mslinda <msl...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
> <36D4F22D...@earthlink.net>...

> > LilSmart1 wrote:
> > >
> > > Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
> > > My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up
> best:
> > > "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
> > >

> > That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
> > of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure
> Chest.
> >

> > Linda C.
> >
> >
> Linda... I thought it came from Fredricks of Hollywood !!!!!!
>
> Barbara

Nope, I think it came from Hefty as in garbage bags.

Coop

Scott

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Rockabi101 wrote:
>
> Rocky thinks using sex as a selling point is as old as women in country music
> (and Rocky wonders if anyone here ever saw any early pictures of Goldie Hill
> and Jean Shepard? Knockouts.) Rocky thinks Shania's looks are a major selling
> point for her and she would be a fool not to use that advantage.

I'd just like to clarify something here, for those not familiar with Jean
Shepard. Yes, pictures of her can't help but show her as a knockout.
But she was, and still is, an immensely talented singer. Production
techniques weren't needed to showcase her talent. There wasn't MTV,
and her picture did not come with singles, which was the dominant
format back then. Her voice, and personality, have stood the test of
time, and she still graces the Grand Ole Opry.

BigMac7OHR

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>I had school last night, so I missed the Grammy's and had no clue what you
>all
>were talking about...
>
>...and then I was flipping the channels and caught a clip on CNN...YIKES!
>Has
>she no decency? And of course, the local male DJs are going crazy. "Wow!
>Did
>you see that outfit she had on last night? Didn't she look GREAT?"

Of course they went crazy over it...

Men: Simply controlled by their hormones.

>{sigh} I don't think I would ever degrade myself by even TRYING to wear
>something like that. I've got better morals than that.

shanIa didn't see it as degrading herself. She saw it as a way to expose raw
sex appeal in front of hundreds of millions of viewers worldwide, so that
shanIa could boost her album sales some more.

shanIa: Simply due to pose for Playboy before the year 2000.

HK...@webtv.net

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This is my first time reading in this group and I think this is
absolutely ridiculous! Calling a woman a slut and a phony for wearing an
outfit. First of all the people doing this are obviously very jealous
and sexually repressed haus fraus. What is wrong with admiring a woman's
body? Also, you women are worse then men. Every concert I went to when
the male artist turns around the women all hoot and holler. As for
Shania being a phony, most country stars are! The #1 phony is that
overrated Garth Brooks with his ploy to sell 100milion albums by the
year 2000.He tries to sell people a new album or box set of already
released material (Live albums with 4 different collectible covers)every
6mos. and calls them "Limited additions".Or at his lame concerts he
passes ot signs to hold up during the show to make him look better . I
regretfully attended his concert on a Saturday and a freind on a
Thursday in the same arena. The day I was there women were holding up
signs about his fiddle player and this sparked a conversation about him.
On Thursday the same happened with his drummer. Now that is phony and
lame! That is an old trick he took from "proffesional wrestling"! But
this is what it is,music BUSINESS. If you do not market yourself so
everyone remembers you, you will not last.


BigMac7OHR

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>If you missed the show, here's an URL to see a photo of Shania in her
>little outfit:
>
>http://www.grammy.com/images/home/photos/07251.jpg

Plus, members of the shanIa collective have been posting them on
alt.fan.shanIa-twain, heh heh..

>When I read the criticism of Shania's outfit, I expected the outfit to
>look trampy (Shania's not the most modest country artist in the world),
>but I didn't expect it to look that bad. However, it DOES look like
>something you'd expect to see on a hooker. THIS is what we want

>contemporary country to look like? I don't think so.

"...and shanIa twain, who's been tip-toeing the lie between country and rock.
(Country singers have always worn boots, but ot the kind that goes mid-thigh)"
- Cathy Maestri, Press-Enterprise, 2/25/99

I don't recall seeing many female POP singers going out dressed like shanIa was
last night... And certainly not country singers.. If the CMA performance was
shanIa giving the Academy the bird for not giving her more credit, this
performance last night delivered a loud message: I no longer consider myself
part of country music.

I can only hope that shanIa make many worst-dressed lists for that outfit, but
I doubt it. So many people drool over her appearance that some numb-skulls will
probably put her on the best-dressed list...

The shanIa collective is assimilating more and more of the media all the time.

>I'm a man. I think Shania IS sexy. However, I'm not going to defend her
>or her music just because I think she's attractive. I think anyone is

shanIa looked much better a few years ago. Her beauty and sexiness came across
much more naturally. Now it's forced and contrived, like the rest of her image
and career. Instead of looking really good in a pair of tight jeans and
crop-top, now she has to resort to fetishwear and looking like a cheap hooker.

>silly for liking a supposed musical artist primarily because of their
>looks, and sadly, if it weren't for Shania's looks, I'd be willing to be

>my left gonad that she wouldn't be where she is today. Music should be
>about music first, not the wrapping that the singer was born in.

That's also my problem with shanIa... Many female singers, both in pop and
country, use sex appeal for their images.. But they can back up their image
with talent and good music... shanIa is nothing but an image. There's no talent
or substance behind it. Just a belly button and cleavage and tight pants and
trampy outfits.

If shanIa was 200 pounds, she'd be out of music by now.

>You can say that sex appeal has always been an aspect of country music,
>and I won't argue with you. However, Ms. Twain is just pushing it, along
>with the definition of modern country music, much too far. She needs to
>"go pop," leave country behind her, and be done with it.

I think she intends to leave country, and the sooner, the better.

Personally, I wish she'd leave music altogether and just disappear. But I doubt
it'll happen anytime soon.

BigMac7OHR

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>This is my first time reading in this group and I think this is
>absolutely ridiculous! Calling a woman a slut and a phony for wearing an

shanIa IS becoming a slut. All she ever seems to do anymore is put effort into
looking like a sex kitten.. Her image and looks have a higher priority than her
music...

Secondly, there are MANY reasons I call her a Phony, and if you'd like, I'll be
more than happy to email these reasons to you.

>outfit. First of all the people doing this are obviously very jealous
>and sexually repressed haus fraus. What is wrong with admiring a woman's

I am neither jealous of sexually repressed. I just can't understand why when
shanIa performed on awards shows in front of million of viewers, why she can't
go and perform great, instead of coming out in some trashy outfit. Why? Because
shanIa has given up using actual talent to sell records, now she only uses sex.

In that sense, shanIa IS a whore, since she's whoring out her image and looks
to get to the top, not talent and hard work.

>body? Also, you women are worse then men. Every concert I went to when
>the male artist turns around the women all hoot and holler. As for
>Shania being a phony, most country stars are! The #1 phony is that
>overrated Garth Brooks with his ploy to sell 100milion albums by the
>year 2000.He tries to sell people a new album or box set of already
>released material (Live albums with 4 different collectible covers)every
>6mos. and calls them "Limited additions".Or at his lame concerts he
>passes ot signs to hold up during the show to make him look better . I
>regretfully attended his concert on a Saturday and a freind on a
>Thursday in the same arena. The day I was there women were holding up
>signs about his fiddle player and this sparked a conversation about him.
>On Thursday the same happened with his drummer. Now that is phony and
>lame! That is an old trick he took from "proffesional wrestling"! But
>this is what it is,music BUSINESS. If you do not market yourself so
>everyone remembers you, you will not last.

When it comes to Phoniness, shanIa is as phony as they get... The same way when
it comes to Foolishness, Michael jordon is as foolish as they get... There are
many foolish and/or phony people, but shanIa is the queen of phoniness, and
jordon the king of foolishness.

Renee' Sweeney

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LilSmart1 wrote:
>
> Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
> My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
> "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
>
> And my brother summed up what I, and probably most of you, thought of her song
> selection: "I thought Shania Twain sang country??"


I said: "Why is Shania Twain dressed up like a dominatrix?" That's
exactly what she looked like. Also, why was she in a semi-squat for the
whole song? She looked totally uncomfortable. Of course, she always
looks uncomfortable to me when she's singing- kinda constipated or
something.

Also- Why does that song have music that is traditionally used for "Way
To Go- Cowboys- Way To Go"- I haven't heard this song before (Thank
God!) so I just noticed it last night. But why is a football cheer the
hook for the song? Hello?

And before anyone asks or accuses, No, I'm not jealous, okay? Why
should I be- Shania Sucks!!!!

One more question please- Why does this Debbie person refer to herself
in the 3rd person? Did I nod off and miss this somewhere?

See y'all-
Renee' (in Dallas, who thought the Dixie Chicks looked pretty pathetic
too!)

elen

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Brian Rodgers wrote:

> If you missed the show, here's an URL to see a photo of Shania in her
> little outfit:
>
> http://www.grammy.com/images/home/photos/07251.jpg
>

> When I read the criticism of Shania's outfit, I expected the outfit to
> look trampy (Shania's not the most modest country artist in the world),
> but I didn't expect it to look that bad. However, it DOES look like
> something you'd expect to see on a hooker. THIS is what we want
> contemporary country to look like? I don't think so.
>

> I'm a man. I think Shania IS sexy. However, I'm not going to defend her
> or her music just because I think she's attractive. I think anyone is

> silly for liking a supposed musical artist primarily because of their
> looks, and sadly, if it weren't for Shania's looks, I'd be willing to be
> my left gonad that she wouldn't be where she is today. Music should be
> about music first, not the wrapping that the singer was born in.
>

> You can say that sex appeal has always been an aspect of country music,
> and I won't argue with you. However, Ms. Twain is just pushing it, along
> with the definition of modern country music, much too far. She needs to
> "go pop," leave country behind her, and be done with it.
>

I didn't watch the show and it sounds like I didn't miss much. I've always
felt that Shania is an embarrassment to country music. I don't begrudge her
success--it doesn't concern me, but please, don't for one minute think she's
country . She's pop-always has been and always will be. And IMO she can't
carry a tune in a gunny sack.

Elen

Coop

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elen wrote:

>
> I didn't watch the show and it sounds like I didn't miss much. I've always
> felt that Shania is an embarrassment to country music. I don't begrudge her
> success--it doesn't concern me, but please, don't for one minute think she's
> country . She's pop-always has been and always will be. And IMO she can't
> carry a tune in a gunny sack.
>
> Elen

Don't worry. All she needs is her John Travolta and she'll be outta here. All
this is so deja vu.

Coop


cat girl

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It's SHANIA, dear, that's S-H-A-N-I-A, not Shanla.

You need to get a grip and get a new hobby. Shania bashing is old news
in this NG. Whether she's a whore or a bad singer or not country is a
matter of opinion, and I really don't give a crap about yours. You
can't even spell her name correctly. Oh, and whatever the reason is
that made you start referring to yourself in the third person, cut it
out. It just makes your posts sound even more idiotic.

When you get around to it, try looking up JEALOUSY in a dictionary. I
think Debbie can manage to squeeze that into her busy schedule.

Shania: the best thing to happen to music in a long time, in spite of
Debbie's opinion. (Debbie WHO??????????????)

-cat

There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats.
~Albert Schweitzer


Brian Rodgers

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cat girl wrote:

> It's SHANIA, dear, that's S-H-A-N-I-A, not Shanla.

I'm in and out of this newsgroup, and even I, a bi-weekly visitor here, can
see that she's making the "i" in Shania uppercase and everything else
lowercase for a reason -- demonstrating graphically that to Shania, or
shanIa, the "I" is everything, meaning that the most important people to her
are "me, myself, and I."

> You need to get a grip and get a new hobby. Shania bashing is old news
> in this NG. Whether she's a whore or a bad singer or not country is a
> matter of opinion, and I really don't give a crap about yours. You
> can't even spell her name correctly. Oh, and whatever the reason is
> that made you start referring to yourself in the third person, cut it
> out. It just makes your posts sound even more idiotic.

I'll admit that the third person thing gets a bit old, and the "Debbie is
good, Debbie is wise" sounds silly. However, her opinions are just as valid
as yours, which, in this case, reveals that you should have read Debbie's
posts a little closer and maybe then you would have been able to tell a
capital I from a lowercase l.

> When you get around to it, try looking up JEALOUSY in a dictionary. I
> think Debbie can manage to squeeze that into her busy schedule.

Why is it that anyone who criticizes Shania is automatically jealous of her?

> Shania: the best thing to happen to music in a long time, in spite of
> Debbie's opinion. (Debbie WHO??????????????)

Shania: the worst thing to happen to *country* music in a long time, in
spite of cat girl's opinion.

Well, at you like cats. One out of two ain't bad.

Debbie Caudill

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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:04:54 -0800, "L. King" <lk...@seaside.net>
wrote:

>You all need to get a grip!!!! Can we say SHOW BUSINESS!!! You are so
>jealous of Shania. Maybe what she wore wasn't the best outfit, but do not
>let that lessen her talent. The woman can sing and the woman can write and
>compose. She just knows how to market herself in order to be successful.
>
>Everyone said the same thing of Madonna years ago. Now we all marvel at how
>wonderfully she promoted herself and her craft.
>
>I am a woman and was not in the least insulted by Shania's performance, nor
>do I think she is a phony. I am proud that she is a woman making her way in
>the business HER WAY.. ... If you don't like her, don't buy her music.
>But obviously people do, she sells the albums, and her songs are
>consistently on the #1 positions.
>
>Lighten up will ya???
>

Bad outfit, no talent...what she did on the awards show was about as
far from country as I have ever heard, and maybe the reason for the
shock, was due to the fact that A) She is representing the Country
genre..was an embarassment. B) She looked and stood like a hooker on a
corner. C) Her songs are consistently on the #1 chart because as to
what she so blatantly stated last night, sex sells...How can you be
proud of a woman who uses her body to get ahead? I thought we were way
beyond that point...

Debbie Caudill

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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 06:18:13 -0800, Allan Wishart
<Allan_...@bc.sympatico.ca> wrote:
They looked like something out of a heavy metal group also...

>Interesting how none of the anti-Shania group here has anything to say about how
>the same designer apparently outfit at least two of the Dixie Chicks, who were the
>next ones up on stage.
>
>
>LilSmart1 wrote:
>
>> Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
>> My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
>> "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
>>
>> And my brother summed up what I, and probably most of you, thought of her song
>> selection: "I thought Shania Twain sang country??"
>>
>> Wrong!

>>
>> As for me, I'm cheering over Sheryl Crow's best rock album win. And I'm
>> cheering over the new haircut.
>>

Cowboy

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cat girl wrote in message
<4222-36D...@newsd-224.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

>Shania: the best thing to happen to music in a long time, in
spite of
>Debbie's opinion. (Debbie WHO??????????????)
>

>-cat


Debbie Gibson, If I'm not mistaken...

Cowboy

J Dondale

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Sorry Cowboy, but your balls ( eyeballs ) are hanging out over a short skirt
and lots of leg. This ain't country... and it sure ain't cool .....

Debbie Caudill

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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:17:58 -0500 (EST), cat_g...@webtv.net (cat
girl) wrote:

<SNIP>


>Shania: the best thing to happen to music in a long time, in spite of
>Debbie's opinion. (Debbie WHO??????????????)
>
>-cat

This isn't the same Debbie, but I will throw my 2 cents in here...this
is a country newsgroup, not pop...and thats what Shania is...even for
Pop, I believe the Cowsills had more talent and that ain't saying a
whole lot.

Terri

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Scott wrote in message <36D5BA...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom>...

Could be, but he's made the best of it, don't ya think? :-)

--
Sister Terri,
Xena-lovin', X-Files-addicted, lesbo-feminist-tree-hugging-dyke-bitch.

The week after Sonny and Cher's television series premiered in March 1975,
Cher received 212 fan letters proposing marriage.

Seventy-seven were from women.

Email is really xfa...@mwonline.net (harassing email will be posted).
ICQ # 11662885
xfanstwo on AOL Instant Messenger

mslinda

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Richard and Barbara Sherrill wrote:
>
> mslinda <msl...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
> <36D4F22D...@earthlink.net>...
> > LilSmart1 wrote:
> > >
> > > Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
> > > My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up
> best:
> > > "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
> > >
> > That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
> > of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure
> Chest.
> >
> > Linda C.
> >
> >
> Linda... I thought it came from Fredricks of Hollywood !!!!!!
>
> Barbara

I think that one went past Frederick's to Madame Dominatrix' House of
Bondage. ;-)

Linda C.


mslinda

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Stan Jensen wrote:

>
> On 25 Feb 1999 08:35:24 GMT, bigma...@aol.com (BigMac7OHR) wrote:
>
> >>That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
> >>of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure Chest.
> >
> >Debbie has always suspected shanIa was a domineering woman, but had no idea
> >shanIa was into whips and chains, heh heh....
>
> Jealous?

Why is it whenever a woman points out that a female performer's outfit
is tacky and tasteless, some idiot whines "jealous?"
No, stupid. If the rest of us wanted B&D outfits, we'd run down to the
porno store and buy one. And wear it in private for our sweetie, not out
on the street like a two-bit hooker.

Linda C.


mslinda

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Tim wrote:

>
> mslinda wrote:
> >
> > LilSmart1 wrote:
> > >
> > > Did ya'll see Shania's adorable attire?
> > > My dad, who wouldn't know a singer if he fell over one, summed it up best:
> > > "Who's the chick dressed like a hooker?"
> > >
> > That's exactly what I thought. This woman could have worn a gown by one
> > of the world's top designers and she picks an outfit from the Pleasure Chest.
> >
>
> Just listen to yourselves. Hatred spewed of. This is the news group
> that somebody mistook for being "Christian"?
>
If you call criticizing a dress "hatred," you must live a *very*
sheltered life. For Crist's sake, don't buy People or the tabs next week
when they critique the Grammy fashions.

Linda C.


mslinda

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Dana Carpender wrote:
>
> Brian Rodgers wrote:
>
> > If you missed the show, here's an URL to see a photo of Shania in her
> > little outfit:
> >
> > http://www.grammy.com/images/home/photos/07251.jpg
> >
>
> Gee, looks like something I'd wear, if I were lucky enough to have Shania's
> body...
>
> Dana (Bad Girl Emeritus)

But would you wear it to the *Grammies* or save it for a more
appropriate occasion? I have had thigh-high boots and leather bustiers
(back when they were in style) but I wore them to nightclubs, not to
awards shows.

Linda C.


Richard and Barbara Sherrill

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Here it is... A woman can dress beautifully .... sexy and still look like a
class act .. and be a lady .. what Shania was wearing the way she presented
herself .. she was far from being a lady !! There is a difference and last
night Shania was far from being a class act .. She looked like a cheap
hooker ...
No, jealousy here .... I don't care for Shania ..because of her music.. I
am the first to admit.. She is a beautiful woman.. Last night she cheapened
herself !

Barbara

HK...@webtv.net wrote in article
<5534-36...@newsd-281.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...


> This is my first time reading in this group and I think this is
> absolutely ridiculous! Calling a woman a slut and a phony for wearing an

> outfit. First of all the people doing this are obviously very jealous
> and sexually repressed haus fraus. What is wrong with admiring a woman's

Country Boy

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Debbie Caudill <dcau...@fuse.net> wrote in article
<36d7e30d....@nntp.fuse.net>...

Just as a casual observer, I thought it was interesting that the only two
Grammy Awards that Shania won were in the country category. You can call
her whatever you want, but the recording industry has voted her a country
artist. Now we'll see if she shows up at Fan Fair.


JRandorff

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In article <19990225003334...@ng-fx1.aol.com>,
lils...@aol.comparty (LilSmart1) writes:

>As for me, I'm cheering over Sheryl Crow's best rock album win. And I'm
>cheering over the new haircut.

Last night was my first taste of Sheryl Crow, and from that, I'm DEFINATELY
wanting more! She's a very talented vocalist, and to top it off, she's one
whompin' bass player!!! :)

Later,
~~James Michael Randorff (jran...@aol.com)
~~http://members.aol.com/jrandorff/index.html

Stress (n, syn. 'strain'): The confusion caused when the mind must resist the
urge to CHOKE THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF SOMEONE THAT REALLY DESERVES IT!!!

BigMac7OHR

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>It's SHANIA, dear, that's S-H-A-N-I-A, not Shanla.

Nope.. It's shanIa... As in when shanIa made her name, shanI - I love myself
most! - a.. shanIa.

Of course, since her name is as Phony as her, I could start calling her
Eilleen. But then, most of the shanIa jockers wouldn't know who I was talking
about, since you all know of Phony shanIa and not Eilleen Regina Edwards, nee
Twain, nee Lange.

<snipped>


>When you get around to it, try looking up JEALOUSY in a dictionary. I
>think Debbie can manage to squeeze that into her busy schedule.

I am not jealous. I do not desire shanIa's fame or money, and certainly not her
trashy image, overgrown ego, or self-centered attitude.

Why can't you people learn this?

>Shania: the best thing to happen to music in a long time, in spite of
>Debbie's opinion. (Debbie WHO??????????????)

When is shanIa going to have anything to do with music, instead of just being a
tramp??

*flush*

BigMac7OHR

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>I'm in and out of this newsgroup, and even I, a bi-weekly visitor here, can
>see that she's making the "i" in Shania uppercase and everything else
>lowercase for a reason -- demonstrating graphically that to Shania, or
>shanIa, the "I" is everything, meaning that the most important people to her
>are "me, myself, and I."

Brian, I am pleased. Someone finally understands my meaning of the spelling of
shanIa. The big I represents what shanIa thinks of herself: The most important
person in the world, and everyone else must bow before her.

>I'll admit that the third person thing gets a bit old, and the "Debbie is
>good, Debbie is wise" sounds silly. However, her opinions are just as valid
>as yours, which, in this case, reveals that you should have read Debbie's
>posts a little closer and maybe then you would have been able to tell a
>capital I from a lowercase l.

Both "Debbie is good, Debbie is wise" and the use of third-person is from
another newsgroup, and a habit I've gotten into while posting...

>Why is it that anyone who criticizes Shania is automatically jealous of her?

Because shanIa jockers think shanIa is the goddess of the world, and anyone who
dislikes her is jealous. This is wrong. shanIa is a two-bit hooker, and her
fans don't understand that many people dislike her because her lack of talent,
blatant use of sex to get to the top, and her self-centered attitude and lies.

>Shania: the worst thing to happen to *country* music in a long time, in
>spite of cat girl's opinion.

And about to become the worst thing to happen to pop music since the New Kids
on the Block....

BigMac7OHR

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>Just as a casual observer, I thought it was interesting that the only two
>Grammy Awards that Shania won were in the country category. You can call
>her whatever you want, but the recording industry has voted her a country
>artist. Now we'll see if she shows up at Fan Fair.

Fan Fair?! Bwahahahahha! Not only do I expect to never see Phony shanIa at
another Fan Fair, but I don't expect her next album to even be 1% country.. I
expect to hear no phony twang in phony shanIa's voice, no fiddle, no steel
guitar, nothing...

It looks like shanIa is leaving country forever, and if so, this is reason to
celebrate...

Now she just needs to leave music.

Terri

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BigMac7OHR wrote in message
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>Of course, since her name is as Phony as her, I could start calling her
>Eilleen. But then, most of the shanIa jockers wouldn't know who I was
talking
>about, since you all know of Phony shanIa and not Eilleen Regina Edwards,
nee
>Twain, nee Lange.

Try learning the meaning of a word before using it:

nee \Nee\, p. p., fem. [F., fr. L. nata, fem. of natus, p. p. of nasci to be
born. See Nation.] Born; -- a term sometimes used in introducing the name of
the family to which a married woman belongs by birth; as, Madame de
Sta["e]l, n['e]e Necker.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary

nee adj : (meaning literally `born') used to indicate the maiden or family
name of a married woman; "Hillary Clinton nee Rodham"
Source: WordNet ® 1.6

What you're saying is that Shania was born to the Lange's then born a second
time to the Twain's.

Terri

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BigMac7OHR wrote in message
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>Of course, since her name is as Phony as her, I could start calling her
>Eilleen.

So, I guess by your definition, these people are/were "phony," too, huh?

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -Lew Alcindor
Bo Diddley -Elias Bates
Jewel -Juel Kilcher
Elton John -Reginald Kenneth Dwight
Madonna -Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone
Meat Loaf -Marvin Lee Aday
George Orwell -Eric Arthur Blair
Sting -Gordon Matthew Sumner
Twiggy - Lesley Hornby
John Wayne -Marion Michael Morrison
Lauren Bacall -Betty Perski
Shelley Winters -Shirley Schrift
Doris Day -Doris Kappelhoff
Natalie Wood -Natasha Gurdin
Tammy Wynette -Wynette Pugh
Sophia Loren -Sophia Scicolone
Greta Garbo -Greta Gustafsson
Lucille Ball -Dianne Belmont
Anne Bancroft -Anne Italiano
Joan Crawford -Lucille Le Sueur

BigMac7OHR

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>So, I guess by your definition, these people are/were "phony," too, huh?
>
>Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -Lew Alcindor
>Bo Diddley -Elias Bates
>Jewel -Juel Kilcher
>Elton John -Reginald Kenneth Dwight
>Madonna -Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone
>Meat Loaf -Marvin Lee Aday
>George Orwell -Eric Arthur Blair
>Sting -Gordon Matthew Sumner
>Twiggy - Lesley Hornby
>John Wayne -Marion Michael Morrison
>Lauren Bacall -Betty Perski
>Shelley Winters -Shirley Schrift
>Doris Day -Doris Kappelhoff
>Natalie Wood -Natasha Gurdin
>Tammy Wynette -Wynette Pugh
>Sophia Loren -Sophia Scicolone
>Greta Garbo -Greta Gustafsson
>Lucille Ball -Dianne Belmont
>Anne Bancroft -Anne Italiano
>Joan Crawford -Lucille Le Sueur

NOT! There's nothing phony about changing your name. shanIa is phony because
she claims over and over to be something she is not..

Read the quote, Teri. "Since her name IS AS phony as her".. I did NOT say
"shanIa is phony because her real name is Eilleen"...

*flush*

Terri

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BigMac7OHR wrote in message
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>Read the quote, Teri.

Terri...two r's.

>"Since her name IS AS phony as her".. I did NOT say
>"shanIa is phony because her real name is Eilleen"...

"Of course, since her name is as Phony as her, I could start calling her
Eilleen."

Her name is phony...is that what you said? Her name is phony, and she is
phony? Right? "Phony" being the word you use, over and over (and over, and
over, and over...) to describe Shania. Right?

You know what? Screw it. You won't get it, anyway, Shania/SherrieFan.

BigMac7OHR

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>>Read the quote, Teri.
>Terri...two r's.

Sorry..

>"Of course, since her name is as Phony as her, I could start calling her
>Eilleen."

Yes, I said that.. That was the full quote.

>Her name is phony...is that what you said? Her name is phony, and she is
>phony? Right? "Phony" being the word you use, over and over (and over, and
>over, and over...) to describe Shania. Right?

Yes. Both shanIa AND her name are phony. This is the point I was trying to
make. Not that just because shanIa is not her real name, she is phony. I just
find it fitting that such a phony person has a phony name, heh heh..

>You know what? Screw it. You won't get it, anyway, Shania/SherrieFan.

LIE! Debbie is not ShaniaFan9, or the foolish SherrieFan.. You keep making this
claim, yet can't prove it...

Why? Because it's not true..

BigMac7OHR

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>I said: "Why is Shania Twain dressed up like a dominatrix?" That's

Perhaps shanIa is telling the world she has Mutt by the you-know-whats... Or
maybe it's her ego coming out, delivering a message that "I, Queen shanIa, now
own country music! You will bow before me, or I'll whip you!" Heh heh...

>exactly what she looked like. Also, why was she in a semi-squat for the
>whole song? She looked totally uncomfortable. Of course, she always
>looks uncomfortable to me when she's singing- kinda constipated or
>something.

shanIa never looks comfortable singing... If all she had to do was stand there
for 4 minutes, she'd have looked like she was enjoying herself.. But she always
looks fearful when singing, as if to say "Uh oh, is this the performance where
the world learns I can't sing and I've fooled them for all these years?!"... I
doubt the bondage outfit had anything to do with her discomfort.

>Also- Why does that song have music that is traditionally used for "Way
>To Go- Cowboys- Way To Go"- I haven't heard this song before (Thank
>God!) so I just noticed it last night. But why is a football cheer the
>hook for the song? Hello?

Because shanIa and Mutt make all their songs by ripping off others.. "Honey I'm
Home" has Def Leppard's "Pour Some Sugar On Me" (also produced by Mutt) written
all over it.

shanIa: Simply the Vanilla Ice of country.

>And before anyone asks or accuses, No, I'm not jealous, okay? Why
>should I be- Shania Sucks!!!!

Agreed. People think we're jealous, but we're not. We don't want to lower
outselves to slutty and phony shanIa's level (the gutter).

>One more question please- Why does this Debbie person refer to herself
>in the 3rd person? Did I nod off and miss this somewhere?

Nope, it's from my activity and posting in another newsgroup, and a habit I
tend to get into....

BigMac7OHR

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>Here it is... A woman can dress beautifully .... sexy and still look like a
>class act .. and be a lady .. what Shania was wearing the way she presented
>herself .. she was far from being a lady !! There is a difference and last
>night Shania was far from being a class act .. She looked like a cheap
>hooker ...
>No, jealousy here .... I don't care for Shania ..because of her music.. I
>am the first to admit.. She is a beautiful woman.. Last night she cheapened
>herself !

Agreed. shanIa was once a very beautiful woman who was naturally sexy.. The
cover photo for The Woman In Me is a very beautiful photo, and she has a
natural sexiness about her when she would wear a tight pair of pants and a crop
top....

But she has lowered and cheapened herself. Instead of coming across as
beautiful in a natural way, she resorts to looking like a hooker and making a
scene.. There's a difference between sexy and slutty, and shanIa has gone way
past that line... There's no reason to appear on the Grammys looking like a
hooker/dominatrix, and no reason to subject the world to a 4 minute crotch shot
(wasn't that camera angle SO convenient?!).. That wasn't about music, or
presenting herself as a "woman".. That was about sex, and using to get to the
top....

I can see now the CMA appearance last year was no fluke.. This is now the way
shanIa wants to express herself.

shanIa: Simply slutty.

BigMac7OHR

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>I think that one went past Frederick's to Madame Dominatrix' House of
>Bondage. ;-)

Maybe we should rename her to Mistress shanIa now, heh heh..

I can see the ad now:

Mistress shanIa - Strict, dominating lady who gets what she wants. Will do
anything for the right price. Loves to punish naught boys and girls by chaining
them to the wall and making them listen to me sing a-cappela. You will be at my
mercy, slave!

(Yes, because they'll do anything to silence your singing!)

Debbie is good, Debbie is wise!

BigMac7OHR

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>If you call criticizing a dress "hatred," you must live a *very*
>sheltered life. For Crist's sake, don't buy People or the tabs next week
>when they critique the Grammy fashions.

Knowing the fools at People, they'll probably call it one of the best outfits
of the Grammys....

People loves shanIa just a little too much... They have been assimilated into
the shanIa collective.

BigMac7OHR

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>Why is it whenever a woman points out that a female performer's outfit
>is tacky and tasteless, some idiot whines "jealous?"
>No, stupid. If the rest of us wanted B&D outfits, we'd run down to the
>porno store and buy one. And wear it in private for our sweetie, not out
>on the street like a two-bit hooker.

I agree, Linda. I have gotten so many posts here in RMCW, on
alt.fan.shania-twain and, as well as emails accusing me of being jealous...
"You're just angry because you can't look at sexy as shanIa and don't have her
talent"... Ha-HAH!

First off, while I can't sing worth a damn, that doesn't mean I have less
talent than shanIa - because she DOES have less than me...

Second of all, I am not jealous of shanIa's looks.. She was one a very
beautiful woman, but has cheapened herself by creating an image based on sex,
not beauty.

As I said in a previous post, I have a pair of boots that make shanIa's look
tame.. But I don't go out wearing them at awards shows... The whole outfit was
tacky and slutty, that pose was slutty, and the combined effect made her look
like a $50 hooker in Hollywood.. I am not jealous of that. If I wanted to "look
like shanIa", I could get a black leather dress and a pair of tacky black
gloves with the tassels on them and dress like that. All that takes is money. I
don't WANT to look like Phony shanIa. I do not want to lower myself to her
prostitute level.

Mythical19

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I don't think jealousy has anything to do with anyone being offended by Shania
& her outfit, that's just taste speaking. I have seen preformers like Foxy
Brown & Lil' Kim wear more clothes!
There is a line between sexy and sleazy, and if Shania didn't cross it when she
came out in that dress (although it just looked like a long tube top to me!),
she certainly crossed it when she stood there with her pelvis thrusted foward
and her legs spread during the entire preformance. Where was the artistic
impression in that one??

Mythical19


Terri

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BigMac7OHR wrote in message
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>Because shanIa and Mutt make all their songs by ripping off others.. "Honey
I'm
>Home" has Def Leppard's "Pour Some Sugar On Me" (also produced by Mutt)
written
>all over it.

Gee, that's a new one. Hey! You know what? It's actually *not* a new one!
It's come up here before! When *was* that? Well, I'll be...whataya know?
It was right about the time ShaniaFan9 was running around here saying that
it wasn't true! Wow.

Kinda reminds me of a quote from The X-Files that's always stuck with me.
"If coincidences are just coincidences, then why do they feel so contrived?"

--
Sister Terri,
Xena-lovin', X-Files-addicted, lesbo-feminist-tree-hugging-dyke-bitch.

On October 11 to 13, 1996, nearly 40,000 Names Project AIDS Memorial
Quilt panels were displayed on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. It
took a constant stream of volunteers - at five different microphones - three
days to read all the names of the dead.

Gerald Olchowy

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In article <36D5A96D...@earthlink.net>, mslinda <msl...@earthlink.net> writes:
|>
|> But would you wear it to the *Grammies* or save it for a more
|> appropriate occasion? I have had thigh-high boots and leather bustiers
|> (back when they were in style) but I wore them to nightclubs, not to
|> awards shows.
|>

One would think that Cher and Madonna had never existed reading much
of all this commentary on Shania.

Compared to outfits Cher and Madonna have worn to awards shows past,
Shania's outfit was both lame and tame.

--
Gerald


Luvless

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JRandorff wrote:
>
> Last night was my first taste of Sheryl Crow, and from that, I'm
> DEFINATELY
> wanting more!

Did she enjoy it too? Was your face like a glazed doughnut afterwards?

-Luvless

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Brian Rodgers

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Rockabi101 wrote:

> For all the comments about Shania, tricks only get you so far. You have to
> have some talent to last more than 2 or 3 years. The longevity of her success
> means there has to be something to back up at least part of the hype.

I have to question these statements about Shania's "longevity." How many albums
has she released? Two? Three, if you count the first album released in 1993 that
barely registered when it was first released? That's not longevity as far as I'm
concerned. Only time will tell, but I don't think you can seriously point to her
"longevity" at this point as making her something special.

Even if Shania releases five more albums (and if she does, I suspect that more
than one will be released as a "pop" album), that doesn't necessarily mean that
she has any special talent. There are numerous examples in music history of people
that were on the music scene for years yet had a questionable level of musical
ability. Just look back over the last twenty or thirty years of music history --
and not just at country music -- and I think you'll clearly see what I mean.

P.S. And don't even bring up how many albums she's sold. There have also been
plenty of "barely talented" musicians in all of music history that have sold
mountains of records.

Regards,

Brian Rodgers
rod...@netexp.net
Grove City, Ohio


Brian Whitt

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Group: rec.music.country.western Date: Fri, Feb 26, 1999, 12:48pm
(PST+8) From: bigma...@aol.com (BigMac7OHR) Re: Note to Debbie
So, I guess by your definition, these people are/were "phony," too, huh?
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -Lew Alcindor
Bo Diddley -Elias Bates
Jewel -Juel Kilcher
Elton John -Reginald Kenneth Dwight
Madonna -Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone Meat Loaf -Marvin Lee Aday
George Orwell -Eric Arthur Blair
Sting -Gordon Matthew Sumner
Twiggy - Lesley Hornby
John Wayne -Marion Michael Morrison
Lauren Bacall -Betty Perski
Shelley Winters -Shirley Schrift
Doris Day -Doris Kappelhoff
Natalie Wood -Natasha Gurdin
Tammy Wynette -Wynette Pugh
Sophia Loren -Sophia Scicolone
Greta Garbo -Greta Gustafsson
Lucille Ball -Dianne Belmont
Anne Bancroft -Anne Italiano
Joan Crawford -Lucille Le Sueur
NOT! There's nothing phony about changing your name. shanIa is phony
because she claims over and over to be something she is not..
Read the quote, Teri. "Since her name IS AS phony as her".. I did NOT

say
"shanIa is phony because her real name is Eilleen"...
*flush*
Debbie
==================================
Lets see...........If Jerry Twain legally adopts Eilleen/Shania she
cannot claim her last name is not Twain ?
-OR-
Are pulling a Timmins Daily Press and denouncing Jerry Twain is not
Shania's
father (not biological) ?
-OR-
Are you telling the internet community that children who are adopted are
not entitled to same rights and privileges as natural born children of
the same family ?


Dana Carpender

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BigMac7OHR wrote:

> >I had school last night, so I missed the Grammy's and had no clue what you
> >all
> >were talking about...
> >
> >...and then I was flipping the channels and caught a clip on CNN...YIKES!
> >Has
> >she no decency? And of course, the local male DJs are going crazy. "Wow!
> >Did
> >you see that outfit she had on last night? Didn't she look GREAT?"
>
> Of course they went crazy over it...
>
> Men: Simply controlled by their hormones.

That's right, all men are exactly alike. And liking to look at scantily clad
women constitutes being "controlled" by their hormones. Geez, pretty sexist
statement, if you ask me.

Cheating on your wife because of a scantily clad woman is being controlled by
your hormones. Committing a rape of a scantily clad woman is being controlled
by your hormones. Having sex with an underaged girl who is scantily clad is
being controlled by your hormones. But just liking to look? I can't see that
as being controlled at all.

But then, one of the reasons I like country videos is because country boys wear
their jeans *so* tight...

Dana


Ted Holder

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Luvless wrote:

>
> mslinda wrote:
> >
> > But would you wear it to the *Grammies* or save it for a more
> > appropriate occasion? I have had thigh-high boots and leather bustiers
> > (back when they were in style) but I wore them to nightclubs, not to
> > awards shows.
> >
> > Linda C.
>
> Sexy Linda, please send me a photo of you wearing them. Thank you.
>
> -Luvless
>
Whatcha mean --- *me*??? Make that *us*.....

Ted

Dana Carpender

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mslinda wrote:

> Dana Carpender wrote:
> >
> > Brian Rodgers wrote:
> >
> > > If you missed the show, here's an URL to see a photo of Shania in her
> > > little outfit:
> > >
> > > http://www.grammy.com/images/home/photos/07251.jpg
> > >
> >
> > Gee, looks like something I'd wear, if I were lucky enough to have Shania's
> > body...
> >
> > Dana (Bad Girl Emeritus)


>
> But would you wear it to the *Grammies* or save it for a more
> appropriate occasion? I have had thigh-high boots and leather bustiers
> (back when they were in style) but I wore them to nightclubs, not to
> awards shows.

Oh, I dunno -- I've been known to do some mightly scandalous things in my time.
A million years ago, in college, I wore a white gauze shirt, wet, with no bra, to
the campus dining hall. And once me and a girlfriend did the dramatic reading
from Forum magazine over dinner in the same dining hall... Also been known to
run around in black lace legging and a chiffon shirt, no underwear -- but that
was at a place where clothing was optional. <vbeg>

Dana


LilSmart1

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>>Jealous?>>

Stupid?

-Julie
It was so much easier before you became you;
Now you don't bring me anything but down.
-Sheryl Crow, "Anything But Down"

LilSmart1

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>>You know, almost every field of psychological study will tell you that
speaking of yourself in the third person is almost certainly a sign of
serious mental illness.>>

Kind of like your tagline is almost certainly a sign you hunger for attention?

I'm not saying you do, but... Just a thought.

Terri

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LilSmart1 wrote in message <19990226154633...@ng-fx1.aol.com>...

>>>You know, almost every field of psychological study will tell you that
>speaking of yourself in the third person is almost certainly a sign of
>serious mental illness.>>
>
>Kind of like your tagline is almost certainly a sign you hunger for
attention?
>
>I'm not saying you do, but... Just a thought.

It was a joke, dipshit.

BigMac7OHR

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>Lets see...........If Jerry Twain legally adopts Eilleen/Shania she
>cannot claim her last name is not Twain ?

I was refering to her first name.. She was born Eilleen Edwards, was adopted by
Jerry Twain - who is spinning in his grave over what his daughter has become! -
and become Eilleen Twain, then married Robert John Lange, making her Eilleen
Lange... But he legal name is not shanIa, or even Shania. It's Eilleen.
Therefore, the name Shania = fake.

*flush*

>Are pulling a Timmins Daily Press and denouncing Jerry Twain is not
>Shania's
>father (not biological) ?

I agree that Jerry WAS her father.

>Are you telling the internet community that children who are adopted are
>not entitled to same rights and privileges as natural born children of
>the same family ?

I've never said that either.. I just disagree that shanIa had to LIE about the
whole thing until she got caught red handed.

LilSmart1

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>>Just listen to yourselves. Hatred spewed of. This is the news group
that somebody mistook for being "Christian"?>>

Point well taken, but....
I don't hate Shania at all. I don't even know her. I just know what I see,
and it's tacky.
I've defended her. I think she's talented, I think she can do good for women
in the industry....IF she can just locate a little class within herself. Songs
like "Honey I'm Home" don't impress. It's like listening to nothing but
cheese. And yet, I own "The Woman In Me", and I do think there's substance to
that album. With "Come On Over", she just went glam.

Anyone who can raise her siblings and work at the age she did has a lot of good
character. I just wish she'd show it more often. And saying things like she
hates hanging out with her fans doesn't help, either.

LilSmart1

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>>"Man! I Feel Like A Dominatrix!">>

I almost peed my pants and fell off my chair when I read this! I love it!!!
The next single, perhaps???

BigMac7OHR

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>Gee, that's a new one. Hey! You know what? It's actually *not* a new one!
>It's come up here before! When *was* that? Well, I'll be...whataya know?
>It was right about the time ShaniaFan9 was running around here saying that
>it wasn't true! Wow.

LIE! Debbie enjoys Def Leppard's music and I immediatly noticed the
similarities between "Honey I'm Home" and "Pour Some Sugar On Me"... Your
imaginary link between myself and the foolish ShaniaFan9 has nothing to do with
it.

>Kinda reminds me of a quote from The X-Files that's always stuck with me.
>"If coincidences are just coincidences, then why do they feel so contrived?"

Because it's all coincidence. I've never posted as SF9. And yes, I know about
ShaniaFan9's weak posts by looking back though DejaNews. Debbie looked up many
shanIa related posts in her quest to find more proof of shanIa's phoniness. I
found the posts of that fool SF9 to be amusing.

Terri

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Sure. Okay.

BigMac7OHR

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>Cheating on your wife because of a scantily clad woman is being controlled by
>your hormones. Committing a rape of a scantily clad woman is being
>controlled
>by your hormones. Having sex with an underaged girl who is scantily clad is
>being controlled by your hormones. But just liking to look? I can't see
>that
>as being controlled at all.

Nope. All three of those are choices. A person can either give into their dirty
thoughts and hormones and commit those acts, or decide not to.

However, not many men have trashed shanIa for her outfit (the only one that
comes to mind was the one talking about his daughter, can't remember the
name)... So, when it comes to looking and drool, men seem to give into their
hormones.. shanIa was in a skimpy outfit giving the world a crotch-shot, men
are drooling....

BigMac7OHR

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>> Mistress shanIa - Strict, dominating lady who gets what she wants.
>> Will do
>> anything for the right price. Loves to punish naught boys and girls by
>> chaining
>> them to the wall and making them listen to me sing a-cappela. You will
>> be at my
>> mercy, slave!
>
>Well, it was sounding pretty good until you got to the singing part.

That was the point.. shanIa would use her weak and pathetic singing as
punishment for bad slaves...

shanIa knows her singing can cause more pain thana spanking or whipping,
especially without Mutt there to alter her voice... Heh heh...

BigMac7OHR

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>There is a line between sexy and sleazy, and if Shania didn't cross it when
>she
>came out in that dress (although it just looked like a long tube top to me!),
>she certainly crossed it when she stood there with her pelvis thrusted foward
>and her legs spread during the entire preformance. Where was the artistic
>impression in that one??

Yes, that pose.. What a lady... Legs spread, pelvis thrusted forward, wearing
long black gloves, a skimpy black dess with her cleavage exposed, and the skirt
of the dress is 3 inches past her crotch, with a pair of black thigh-high
boots... That performance crossed the line from sexy into downright sexual and
trashy...

shanIa was once powerful and beautiful. Now she is just a cheap piece of meat.

Richard and Barbara Sherrill

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Terri...

You forgot... Doug Brooks... who is known as Doug Stone !!


Terri <xfa...@deathtospammers.net> wrote in article
<HwwB2.1208$sb.1...@newsfeed.slurp.net>...
>
> BigMac7OHR wrote in message
> <19990226064227...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...
>
> >Of course, since her name is as Phony as her, I could start calling her
> >Eilleen.


>
> So, I guess by your definition, these people are/were "phony," too, huh?
>
> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -Lew Alcindor
> Bo Diddley -Elias Bates
> Jewel -Juel Kilcher
> Elton John -Reginald Kenneth Dwight
> Madonna -Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone
> Meat Loaf -Marvin Lee Aday
> George Orwell -Eric Arthur Blair
> Sting -Gordon Matthew Sumner
> Twiggy - Lesley Hornby
> John Wayne -Marion Michael Morrison
> Lauren Bacall -Betty Perski
> Shelley Winters -Shirley Schrift
> Doris Day -Doris Kappelhoff
> Natalie Wood -Natasha Gurdin
> Tammy Wynette -Wynette Pugh
> Sophia Loren -Sophia Scicolone
> Greta Garbo -Greta Gustafsson
> Lucille Ball -Dianne Belmont
> Anne Bancroft -Anne Italiano
> Joan Crawford -Lucille Le Sueur
>

> --
> Sister Terri,
> Xena-lovin', X-Files-addicted, lesbo-feminist-tree-hugging-dyke-bitch.
>

> The week after Sonny and Cher's television series premiered in March
1975,
> Cher received 212 fan letters proposing marriage.
>
> Seventy-seven were from women.

Richard and Barbara Sherrill

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Then I guess Naomi and Wynonna are fakes to ..they changed their names....
Paul Bryant last name isn't Bryant .. does that make him a fake ....
The list goes on .. if you don't like the fact they people change their
names for professional purposes... Oh well.. get a grip .. You are sounding
like a 2 year old... Hell my 2 year old nieces act more mature than what
you have been doing ...

Barbara


BigMac7OHR <bigma...@aol.com> wrote in article
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> >Lets see...........If Jerry Twain legally adopts Eilleen/Shania she
> >cannot claim her last name is not Twain ?
>
> I was refering to her first name.. She was born Eilleen Edwards, was
adopted by
> Jerry Twain - who is spinning in his grave over what his daughter has
become! -
> and become Eilleen Twain, then married Robert John Lange, making her
Eilleen
> Lange... But he legal name is not shanIa, or even Shania. It's Eilleen.
> Therefore, the name Shania = fake.
>
> *flush*
>
> >Are pulling a Timmins Daily Press and denouncing Jerry Twain is not
> >Shania's
> >father (not biological) ?
>
> I agree that Jerry WAS her father.
>
> >Are you telling the internet community that children who are adopted are
> >not entitled to same rights and privileges as natural born children of
> >the same family ?
>
> I've never said that either.. I just disagree that shanIa had to LIE
about the
> whole thing until she got caught red handed.
>

Terri

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Richard and Barbara Sherrill wrote in message
<01be61a2$f4897d40$eb0d76d8@bsherrill>...

>Terri...
>
>You forgot... Doug Brooks... who is known as Doug Stone !!

True! Very true! A case of looking so hard for the trees I didn't see the
forest, I guess!

On a side note, does anybody remember when Brooks and Dunn first came on the
scene, and everybody (TV Guide, etc.) was making the mistake of listing them
as Garth Brooks and Holly Dunn? :-)

--
Sister Terri,
Xena-lovin', X-Files-addicted, lesbo-feminist-tree-hugging-dyke-bitch.

On October 11 to 13, 1996, nearly 40,000 Names Project AIDS Memorial


Quilt panels were displayed on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. It
took a constant stream of volunteers - at five different microphones - three
days to read all the names of the dead.

Email is really xfa...@mwonline.net (harassing email will be posted).

Cowboy

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I never said it was country :-)

Cowboy

J Dondale wrote in message ...
>Sorry Cowboy, but your balls ( eyeballs ) are hanging out over a
short skirt
>and lots of leg. This ain't country... and it sure ain't cool
.....
>
>


Brian Whitt

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Group: rec.music.country.western Date: Fri, Feb 26, 1999, 8:51pm (PST+8)

From: bigma...@aol.com (BigMac7OHR) Re: Note to Debbie
Lets see...........If Jerry Twain legally adopts Eilleen/Shania she
cannot claim her last name is not Twain ?
I was refering to her first name.. She was born Eilleen Edwards, was
adopted by Jerry Twain - who is spinning in his grave over what his
daughter has become! - and become Eilleen Twain, then married Robert
John Lange, making her Eilleen Lange... But he legal name is not shanIa,
or even Shania. It's Eilleen. Therefore, the name Shania = fake.
==================================
In Sister Terri's post "Note to Debbie"
she gave appox. 20 examples of celebrities from music, motion pictures,
and sports (many with first and/or last names changed) and you said "It
is not phony to change your name" (maybe not quite the exact quote but
close enough) and now you criticize Shania for changing her first name
(Reference "Shania = fake"
as quoted above) ?????????
Sounds like somebody has a double standard.


Dana Carpender

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> The same way when
> it comes to Foolishness, Michael jordon is as foolish as they get... There are
> many foolish and/or phony people, but shanIa is the queen of phoniness, and
> jordon the king of foolishness.

I know a number of people who know Michael Jordon -- several of my old Chicago
clients own chunks of the Bulls, and one of them has grandkids who play with
Michael's kids -- and I know no one who knows him who will say a bad word about the
man. He is apparently just as nice as they come.

Dana


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