A jeans problem
n-h.kr...@waab.se
Hello!
I have a little problem, I'm woundering how
everybody you are maintaining their creases on there
jeans. Mine disappears after a couple of hours.
Are they just ironing them or are they using some
sort of strengthening spray or something like that?
I'm woundering because I think's it look's nice having
creases on my jeans.
And do you just have to iron you jeans long enough
to get white lines on them? ( I know they are worn-out lines)
Hope some knows the answear
Patrik
n-h.kr...@waab.se
Greg Vaughn
> I have a little problem, I'm woundering how
> everybody you are maintaining their creases on there
> jeans. Mine disappears after a couple of hours.
> Are they just ironing them or are they using some
> sort of strengthening spray or something like that?
> I'm woundering because I think's it look's nice having
> creases on my jeans.
> And do you just have to iron you jeans long enough
> to get white lines on them? ( I know they are worn-out lines)
The secret is to use lots of starch. If you've got a few bucks to spend
you could send have your jeans professionally laundered. That certainly
helps the creases and saves you some time ironing.
--
Greg Vaughn G.Va...@ttu.edu
Newton Developer Austin-Seer Corp.
"If this were a logical world, *men* would ride sidesaddle"
{My views do not necessairly represent those of my employer}
LaDiva
washed mine and the crease is stll there) and the line will fade if that
is really what you want...
la Diva
John Patterson
>
> Hello!
> I have a little problem, I'm woundering how
> everybody you are maintaining their creases on there
> jeans. Mine disappears after a couple of hours.
> Are they just ironing them or are they using some
> sort of strengthening spray or something like that?
> I'm woundering because I think's it look's nice having
> creases on my jeans.
> And do you just have to iron you jeans long enough
> to get white lines on them? ( I know they are worn-out lines)
>
First you need to marinate them in salt water
overnight. You can add garlic and jalepeno peppers
to taste. Iron them, using plenty of spray starch.
Bake them in the oven at 375 degrees for an hour
or until golden brown. You can spray them with
lacquer at this point. When dry, put them on very
carefully. Don't sit down, that might wrinkle them.
Garnish with padding where desired. Strut around
in front of the mirror for an hour until you're
satisfied that you look cool.
Jesus, they're just stinkin' jeans! They're made
for work! What's wrong with just letting them look
like you've put in an honest day's work?
Iain Noble
in S London back in 1966 or 1967 (with a white Fred Perry). As far
as I'm concerned no one has ever had a more innately correct sense
of style than the Mods (other than maybe Jean Paul Belmondo). And
back then (and ever since) creases in your jeans were deeply,
DEEPLY, uncool. Iron your Fred Perry (or your Ben Sherman) even
your socks but never NEVER iron your Levis (your StaPrest slacks
are an entirely different matter). If your jeans won't hold creases
don't worry - it's nature's way of telling you something. If only I
could remember what.
Which reminds me. When I was a Mod I went with my then girlfriend to
see Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames at some club up in Soho. We
arrived late and it was crowded and we were stuck at the back with
virtually no view. When Georgie Fame came on my girlfriend (who was
a) a big fan and b) tallish) began to jump up and down to improve
her vantage shouting all the while 'I can see his organ! I can see
his organ!'. We had to make our own entertainment back in those
days.
Iain Noble
PUR...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu
>> everybody you are maintaining their creases on there
>> jeans.
the 70's. I swore I'd never copy anything I wore during
that decade no matter how popular of a come back it made.
Tracy
Roll Tide !!!
Barry Adair
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>Hello!
>I have a little problem, I'm woundering how
>everybody you are maintaining their creases on there
>jeans. Mine disappears after a couple of hours.
>Are they just ironing them or are they using some
>sort of strengthening spray or something like that?
>I'm woundering because I think's it look's nice having
>creases on my jeans.
>And do you just have to iron you jeans long enough
>to get white lines on them? ( I know they are worn-out lines)
>
>Hope some knows the answear
>
>Patrik
>n-h.kr...@waab.se
This is what we did was to take a candle, turn the jeans inside out, rub the
candle up and down the inside of the jeans where you want the crease,
then turn them rightside out and iron them, the crease will stay, for 5
or 6 washes, then do it again.
Th
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MR P A MOORE
>From: j...@frame.com (John Patterson)
>Subject: Re: A jeans problem
>Date: 17 Aug 1995 22:30:01 GMT
>In article f...@stella.tip.net, <n-h.kr...@waab.se> () writes:
>>
>> Hello!
>> I have a little problem, I'm woundering how
>> everybody you are maintaining their creases on there
>> jeans. Mine disappears after a couple of hours.
>> Are they just ironing them or are they using some
>> sort of strengthening spray or something like that?
>> I'm woundering because I think's it look's nice having
>> creases on my jeans.
>> And do you just have to iron you jeans long enough
>> to get white lines on them? ( I know they are worn-out lines)
>>
>> Hope some knows the answear
>>
>> Patrik
>> n-h.kr...@waab.se
>First you need to marinate them in salt water
>overnight. You can add garlic and jalepeno peppers
>to taste. Iron them, using plenty of spray starch.
>Bake them in the oven at 375 degrees for an hour
>or until golden brown. You can spray them with
>lacquer at this point. When dry, put them on very
>carefully. Don't sit down, that might wrinkle them.
>Garnish with padding where desired. Strut around
>in front of the mirror for an hour until you're
>satisfied that you look cool.
>Jesus, they're just stinkin' jeans! They're made
>for work! What's wrong with just letting them look
>like you've put in an honest day's work?
hear,hear -no creases in jeans!
Megan Dietz
will also stay longer if you have them done at a dry cleaner/laundramat.
Quiz: does anyone know *why* cowboys starch their jeans?
Megan
Eric Barna
>Jesus, they're just stinkin' jeans! They're made
>for work! What's wrong with just letting them look
>like you've put in an honest day's work?
I got my workin' jeans and I got my steppin' jeans. Nothing like steppin' out
in D/FW with a nice heavily starched pair of cowboy-cut wranglers, a matching
starched white shirt, my resistol and ropers.
Marc Konchinsky (a.k.a. Marcster)
(MR P A MOORE) wrote:
<<major snip>>
>>Jesus, they're just stinkin' jeans! They're made
>>for work! What's wrong with just letting them look
>>like you've put in an honest day's work?
>
>
>hear,hear -no creases in jeans!
What should we be hearing?? The crinkle noises as the starched jeans when
he is walking? I think you meant "here, here". Sorry, I just *had* to
say it!
--
Marc Konchinsky
Ian Whiting
Here it's "hear, hear!" (Chambers Dict.), but we never could spell
correctly here in the UK ;-) I can't understand why it's not "hear
here!"
BTW My wife would like to know why no one talks about Billy Ray Cyrus in
this group. Are there any fans of BRC here? Has anyone seen his his
latest tour? She would love to hear about it.
--
Ian Whiting E-mail: i...@culp.demon.co.uk
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
Jon Weisberger
writes:
>In article: <Grttmdjs-180...@lsptppp59.epix.net>
>Grtt...@epix.net (Marc Konchinsky (a.k.a. Marcster)) writes:
>> >
>> >hear,hear -no creases in jeans!
>>
>> I think you meant "here, here".
>
>
>Here it's "hear, hear!" (Chambers Dict.), but we never could spell
>correctly here in the UK ;-) I can't understand why it's not "hear
>here!"
"Hear, hear" indicates approval, draws attention to some particularly
succulent statement, etc., as in the original quoted above.
"Here, here" indicates disapproval, inquiry into what's going on, a
request for cessation, etc., as in "here, here, we'll have none of
that."
--
Jon Weisberger, Cincinnati jo...@ix.netcom.com
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Kirsty Gray
:
: Hello!
: I have a little problem, I'm woundering how
: everybody you are maintaining their creases on there
: jeans. Mine disappears after a couple of hours.
: Are they just ironing them or are they using some
: sort of strengthening spray or something like that?
: I'm woundering because I think's it look's nice having
: creases on my jeans.
: And do you just have to iron you jeans long enough
: to get white lines on them? ( I know they are worn-out lines)
:
: Hope some knows the answear
:
: Patrik
: n-h.kr...@waab.se
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Don't put creases in your
jeans!! You'll look like a big idiot! Jeans are a working class symbol,
the sign of hard work and a tough life - not ironing ability...
Leave em alone.
Kirsty.
Eric Barna
> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Don't put creases in your
>jeans!! You'll look like a big idiot! Jeans are a working class symbol,
>the sign of hard work and a tough life - not ironing ability...
> Leave em alone.
> Kirsty.
Depends on what part of the world you live in Kirsty. In my part of the world
(Texas), properly starched/pressed Wranglers are considered the norm. As for
the original question, you just have to own them for awhile. You'll get you
dark line as the jeans fade.
As for the original question:
For new wranglers- wash three times in a row, and send them out to get
professionally pressed (heavy starch of course).
You can iron them yourself, but it will take you quite awhile to get that
professionally done look.
Eric
Eric Barna
>From: Megan Dietz <dietz...@ssd.loral.com>
>Subject: Re: A jeans problem
>To get a crease to stay in your jeans, use extra heavy starch. They
>will also stay longer if you have them done at a dry cleaner/laundramat.
>Quiz: does anyone know *why* cowboys starch their jeans?
Gotta look good when we're steppin' out.
Eric
Eric Barna
>From all these replies, I get the feeling maybe it's just a Texas thing to
>have a nice pair of "dress" jeans with a crease. Is there anything besides
>cowboy-cut wranglers? ;-)
Of course not! From what I understand though, in certain parts of the US (as
the world I'm sure), Wranglers in general are considered the lowest rung of
the proverbial jean totem pole. Go figure.
Reading these responses, I'm starting to believe it is just a Texas thing.
Glad I don't wander from within its borders to often, my starched Wranglers
must get alot of laughs when I do.
Eric
Ranger Rita
<dietz...@ssd.loral.com> writes:
>
>To get a crease to stay in your jeans, use extra heavy starch. They
>will also stay longer if you have them done at a dry
cleaner/laundramat.
>
>Quiz: does anyone know *why* cowboys starch their jeans?
>
>
*Real* cowboys do not starch their jeans; city slickers do. No real
cowgirl would be caught dead dancin with a guy with creased jeans
unless he could sing like George Strait, too.
Ranger Rita
Greg Vaughn
(Ranger Rita) wrote:
> *Real* cowboys do not starch their jeans; city slickers do. No real
> cowgirl would be caught dead dancin with a guy with creased jeans
> unless he could sing like George Strait, too.
Uhm, since you mentioend George, doesn't he wear a nice pair of starched
jeans in concert? Does that make him a city slicker, rather than a real
cowboy? Maybe you're just saying that his singing makes up for his creased
jeans...
--
Greg Vaughn G.Va...@ttu.edu
Newton Developer NETSeer Corp.
Kirsty Gray
Actually, here in rural Australia, Wranglers are really cool. But not
starched or with creases. Ain't things different across the country.....
Kirsty.:
LaDonna Morey
>In article <410ft9$3...@frame.frame.com> j...@frame.com (John Patterson) writes:
><snip>
>
>I got my workin' jeans and I got my steppin' jeans. Nothing like steppin' out
>in D/FW with a nice heavily starched pair of cowboy-cut wranglers, a matching
>starched white shirt, my resistol and ropers.
>
>
>
And what kind of Ropers are they?
lad...@IntNet.net
Cheryl Cline
> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Don't put creases in your
> jeans!! You'll look like a big idiot! Jeans are a working class symbol,
> the sign of hard work and a tough life - not ironing ability...
> Leave em alone.
Well, shoot, if it's one thing working class people are good at, it's
ironing, eh? (Why, some of 'em even do it *professionally*). I don't
know why this thread is getting on my nerves so much, but *maybe* it
has to do with the fact that my mother (until she came to her senses
& made *him* do it) always ironed creases into my dad's brown Ben
Davis workpants, and when my grandad dressed up, he wore a nice white
shirt, and his best pair of *starched*, *creased* overalls. Jeans are
a working class symbol, all right, and a sign of hard work and a tough
life that don't exactly leave a lot of dough left over for, like,
suits. (Your one good suit is saved for weddings and funerals, not for
going out on the town.) What to do? You spruce up your regular
working duds is what. Ironing creases helps; even if the only jeans
you have are old & faded, at least you've shown you've made an effort.
Now maybe they don't do this crease deal everywhere (I'm talking small-
town/working class suburban California here) but I will say this: when not-working-class
people start taking up working class style as a fashion, it takes on
a new meaning, not to mention new rules. Wranglers? Levis? How about
what's on sale at Wal-Mart?
--Cheryl "okay, so I haven't had my coffee yet this morning" Cline
Eric Barna
>From: PUR...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu
>Subject: Re: A jeans problem
>
>>>Quiz: does anyone know *why* cowboys starch their jeans?
>>>
>>>Megan
>>>
>>*Real* cowboys do not starch their jeans; city slickers do. No real
>>cowgirl would be caught dead dancin with a guy with creased jeans
>>unless he could sing like George Strait, too.
>>Ranger Rita
>>
>
>
> AMEN !!! Watch Mesquite Championship Rodeo on TNN on Friday
> and Saturday night. You won't fine those cowboys with creases
> starched in their jeans. Only drug store cowboys do that.
> I used to show quarter horses and the clothes some people wear
> to look like a cowboy or cowgirl crack me up!!!
> Tracy
> Roll Tide
Maybe that's because they spend 90% of their time on the rode between
rodeos. Kinda of hard to get your Wranglers starched and pressed when you
arrive in town at 10 in the morning and are gone by 11 at night.
Come on down to Texas, Tracy. Not to Dallas, or Houston, or San Antonio, go to
Aubrey, Justin, Stephensville, White Deer, Texoma, where the *real cowboys*
are. You'll see plenty of starch in them there wranglers.
Eric
Mike Smith
> In article <410ft9$3...@frame.frame.com> j...@frame.com (John Patterson) writes:
> <snip>
>
> >Jesus, they're just stinkin' jeans! They're made
> >for work! What's wrong with just letting them look
> >like you've put in an honest day's work?
>
> I got my workin' jeans and I got my steppin' jeans. Nothing like steppin' out
> in D/FW with a nice heavily starched pair of cowboy-cut wranglers, a matching
> starched white shirt, my resistol and ropers.
You can tell a real farm boy a mile away when he buys a pair of work jeans and
the first thing he does is sew chaps in them to stop the hay chewing the stuffing
out of his legs.
I am the only kid on this block who worked summers hauling hay for a living?
--
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Eric Barna
>*Real* cowboys do not starch their jeans; city slickers do. No real
>cowgirl would be caught dead dancin with a guy with creased jeans
>unless he could sing like George Strait, too.
>Ranger Rita
Uh, ok, yea that's right Rita. I know quite a few *real cowboys* down here in
Texas, we all we are Wranglers starched when going out on the town.
Eric
Kirsty Gray
: To get a crease to stay in your jeans, use extra heavy starch. They
: will also stay longer if you have them done at a dry cleaner/laundramat.
: Quiz: does anyone know *why* cowboys starch their jeans?
:
: Megan
:
:
I can honestly say I have never met a cowboy who ironed his jeans
- let alone strached them!! And I've met alot of cowboys....
Kirsty
Charles Fraley
>First you need to marinate them in salt water
>overnight. You can add garlic and jalepeno peppers
>to taste. Iron them, using plenty of spray starch.
>Bake them in the oven at 375 degrees for an hour
>or until golden brown. You can spray them with
>lacquer at this point. When dry, put them on very
>carefully. Don't sit down, that might wrinkle them.
>Garnish with padding where desired. Strut around
>in front of the mirror for an hour until you're
>satisfied that you look cool.
>
>for work! What's wrong with just letting them look
>like you've put in an honest day's work?
>
what you thought about it. If you can pass on something helpful, please
do so. If not, please save your unsolicited criticism.
Chuck
Thunder 98
Up here in New York Jeans Are Jeans, Nothing Is applied to them, they are
worn as is!
I would hate to go to Texas people would laugh because I don't have the
starched and real dark blue jeans!
-Nick-
Eric Barna
>From: kgr...@metz.une.edu.au (Kirsty Gray)
>Subject: Re: A jeans problem
Come on across the lake to Texas, meet some Texas cowboys, and see what that
does to your starch/non-starch ratio.:-)
Eric
Greg Vaughn
PUR...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu wrote:
> AMEN !!! Watch Mesquite Championship Rodeo on TNN on Friday
> and Saturday night. You won't fine those cowboys with creases
> starched in their jeans. Only drug store cowboys do that.
> I used to show quarter horses and the clothes some people wear
> to look like a cowboy or cowgirl crack me up!!!
Hmmm, we've seen some different things. Now Rodeo goes back to the working
cowboy, they're not wearing their "Sunday-go-to-meetin'" jeans. However,
it's been at AQHA shows that I've seen people the most obsessed with nice
creased jeans, because that is more of a show than work (now, I'm not
saying it's not hard work, just that the show is the most important part).
These same people who starch and crease their jeans are some of the best
horse trainers I've ever met.
--
Greg Vaughn G.Va...@ttu.edu
Newton Developer NETSeer Corp.
"If this were a logical world, *men* would ride sidesaddle"
{My views do not necessarily represent those of my employer}
Casi Odom
>> and Saturday night. You won't fine those cowboys with creases
>> starched in their jeans. Only drug store cowboys do that.
>> I used to show quarter horses and the clothes some people wear
>> to look like a cowboy or cowgirl crack me up!!!
>> Roll Tide
>Maybe that's because they spend 90% of their time on the rode between
>rodeos. Kinda of hard to get your Wranglers starched and pressed when you
>arrive in town at 10 in the morning and are gone by 11 at night.
>Come on down to Texas, Tracy. Not to Dallas, or Houston, or San Antonio, go to
>Aubrey, Justin, Stephensville, White Deer, Texoma, where the *real cowboys*
>are. You'll see plenty of starch in them there wranglers.
>Eric
Yes, Eric...YOU ARE CORRECT! I live in Denton, Texas, and I would say that
the majority of "cowboys" DO INDEED starch their jeans around here! My
husband looks WONDERFUL in his starched Wranglers!!!
Casi
Cliff...@pressroom.com
their jeans. While I was in Oklahoma City this past spring I headed to
Langston's in the Stock Yards for some Wranglers.
I was really taken back when the sales girl told me to get em a little
bigger and longer than I had chosen. Why I asked...we'll don't you starch
em? She replied. I looked around and sure enough....everyone had white
creased running down their legs.
The look fit the region. As was stated earlier, a starched white shirt,
startched Wranglers a good hat and a comfortable pair of boots.
Now, how many folds must you have in your jeans legs as they stack up around
your boots?
Cliff...@pressroom.com
>In article <418c2i$7...@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, rri...@ix.netcom.com
>(Ranger Rita) wrote:
>
>> *Real* cowboys do not starch their jeans; city slickers do. No real
>> cowgirl would be caught dead dancin with a guy with creased jeans
>> unless he could sing like George Strait, too.
>
>Uhm, since you mentioend George, doesn't he wear a nice pair of starched
>jeans in concert? Does that make him a city slicker, rather than a real
>cowboy? Maybe you're just saying that his singing makes up for his
> creased
>jeans...
>
>--
_______________________
This whole thread really points out the regional differences we have.
Here in the east, you can't step out on the dance floor unless you've got a
cheap hat on.....in Texas a real cowboy would not be caught dead dancing
with his hat on--a real sign of disrespect to the lady.
Creased jeans seems to be the same. Real cowboys have a pair of "going out"
jeans with heavy startch, and they must be Wranglers. Here in Washington,
where anything no matter how cheesy passes as western, no one creases their
jeans.
Robert Stewart
On Mon, 21 Aug 1995 PUR...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu wrote:
>
> >>Quiz: does anyone know *why* cowboys starch their jeans?
> >>
> >>Megan
> >>
> >cowgirl would be caught dead dancin with a guy with creased jeans
> >unless he could sing like George Strait, too.
>
> AMEN !!! Watch Mesquite Championship Rodeo on TNN on Friday
> and Saturday night. You won't fine those cowboys with creases
> starched in their jeans. Only drug store cowboys do that.
> I used to show quarter horses and the clothes some people wear
> to look like a cowboy or cowgirl crack me up!!!
> Tracy
> Roll Tide
>
Wranglers to work in, but when I go out at night, I like to look nice and
wear starched Wranglers and starched shirts. I've dealt with people that
show horses and, like you, seem to think they know it all. Maybe you
need to check out some of the guys who ride at Mesquite. Some of them
are just city kids who spend a few bucks to dress up like a cowboy and go
there to try to ride a bronc or bull. However, I've got more respect for
them than guys who have a 9-5 job and then play cowboy for the girls at
night.
Maybe some time you ought to get out of your horse-showing world and see
what cowboys wear - which is a lot of different things. In Texas and
Oklahoma, a lot wear Wranglers and ropers. Go up to Montana, they wear
Levi's a lot (some wear Wranglers). It's different all over the West.
A lot of the old-timers that are still ranching that I know, wear Levi's,
and that's back in Texas. So when someone tries to tell people that a
real cowboy only wears one certain thing, tell him/her they are full of
shit. Probably the best thing to tell about someone is the shape of their
hat and their boots. But even that doesn't always tell the truth.
Robert
Eric Barna
>From: PUR...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu
>Subject: Re: A jeans problem
>>Come on down to Texas, Tracy. Not to Dallas, or Houston, or San Antonio, go to
>>Aubrey, Justin, Stephensville, White Deer, Texoma, where the *real cowboys*
>>are. You'll see plenty of starch in them there wranglers.
>>Eric
>>
> I guess I'm just behind the times. I used to show horses in
> the early 80's and nobody creased their jeans. When did this
> get so popular? Or has it always been done out in Texas?
>
Far as I remember, starch, starch, starch. I'm 32.
Eric
PUR...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu
>Aubrey, Justin, Stephensville, White Deer, Texoma, where the *real cowboys*
>are. You'll see plenty of starch in them there wranglers.
>Eric
>
I guess I'm just behind the times. I used to show horses in
the early 80's and nobody creased their jeans. When did this
get so popular? Or has it always been done out in Texas?
Roll Tide !!!
Eric Barna
>What are D/FW's ?
Not what are, what is, stand for Dallas/Fort Worth. Close enough together that
most people just say the *Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex*. Actually, last time I
was in Fort Worth, someone told me "If Fort Worth is the start of the west,
that must mean Dallas is the a**hole of the east." :-) Being from Dallas, I
had to agree.... (just kidding!).
Eric
Ted Samsel
: >Come on down to Texas, Tracy. Not to Dallas, or Houston, or San Antonio, go to
Never saw it done in the '60s 'cept by old geezers...
Last time I had startched pants was when I was goin' to Texas A&M and
you were forced to use the communal laundry service. Hell, my
boxers could stand up by themselves....
--
Ted Samsel....tejas@infi.net
"driving a Hudson Hornet on the disinformation triple bypass:
cruising for burgers & garage sales. Hooks baited, lines en-
tangled, roadkill cooked"
Todd
>Here in the east, you can't step out on the dance floor unless you've got a
>cheap hat on.....in Texas a real cowboy would not be caught dead dancing
>with his hat on--a real sign of disrespect to the lady.
huh? where'd ya hear that? I've never seen or heard this before. at least
not in this century.
and...you don't get white creases running down your legs if you starch them
right.
in most areas of texas and oklahoma, you get jeans about 2-3 sizes too
long and bunch them up around the ankles. of course, if you're wearing
training boots like ropers, there's not much room for the extra material to
bunch up. too much bunching is better than
not enough. it's been this way as long as I can remember.
a cheap hat looks pretty stupid! kind of like some actor from a 1970's
quasi-hick movie like Electric Horseman.
Ellen Milne
> In article <17401A83CS...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu>,
> PUR...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu wrote:
> > AMEN !!! Watch Mesquite Championship Rodeo on TNN on Friday
> > and Saturday night. You won't fine those cowboys with creases
> > starched in their jeans. Only drug store cowboys do that.
> > I used to show quarter horses and the clothes some people wear
> > to look like a cowboy or cowgirl crack me up!!!
> Hmmm, we've seen some different things. Now Rodeo goes back to the working
> cowboy, they're not wearing their "Sunday-go-to-meetin'" jeans. However,
> it's been at AQHA shows that I've seen people the most obsessed with nice
> creased jeans, because that is more of a show than work (now, I'm not
> saying it's not hard work, just that the show is the most important part).
> These same people who starch and crease their jeans are some of the best
> horse trainers I've ever met.
> --
> Greg Vaughn G.Va...@ttu.edu
> Newton Developer NETSeer Corp.
> "If this were a logical world, *men* would ride sidesaddle"
Eric,
What are D/FW's ?
Ellen
e...@guardian.j-sainsbury.co.uk
LaDonna Morey
to
>>Aubrey, Justin, Stephensville, White Deer, Texoma, where the *real cowboys*
>>are. You'll see plenty of starch in them there wranglers.
>
>>Eric
I'm from El Paso and people do a little bit of both. I prefer the
starched look.
LaDonna
Barry Adair
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T9>JEANS
T9>Up here in New York Jeans Are Jeans, Nothing Is applied to them, they are
T9>worn as is!
T9>I would hate to go to Texas people would laugh because I don't have the
T9>starched and real dark blue jeans!
T9>
T9>-Nick-
Well down here in Texas we have Texas Jeans
Texas Jeans are 10Lbs of A** in a 5 lb pair of Jeans
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>
Nick
That wouldn't be very nice if someone laughed! Nor, would it be anybody's
business what color your jeans were or whether or not they were starched! It's
just a matter of what you prefer!
LaDonna
Sda...@vvm.com
>In article <416qbb$m...@grivel.une.edu.au> kgr...@metz.une.edu.au (Kirsty Gray) writes:
>> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Don't put creases in your
>>jeans!! You'll look like a big idiot! Jeans are a working class symbol,
>>the sign of hard work and a tough life - not ironing ability...
>> Leave em alone.
>> Kirsty.
>Depends on what part of the world you live in Kirsty. In my part of the world
>(Texas), properly starched/pressed Wranglers are considered the norm. As for
>the original question, you just have to own them for awhile. You'll get you
>dark line as the jeans fade.
>As for the original question:
>For new wranglers- wash three times in a row, and send them out to get
>professionally pressed (heavy starch of course).
>You can iron them yourself, but it will take you quite awhile to get that
>professionally done look.
>Eric
I'm back in Texas now, but creases in your Wranglers/Rockies was a
must in Ga and Tn. also. Professionally pressed? Darn, I knew I was
doing something wrong.
Susan
Lampasas TX
Sda...@vvm.com
>JEANS
>Up here in New York Jeans Are Jeans, Nothing Is applied to them, they are
>worn as is!
>I would hate to go to Texas people would laugh because I don't have the
>starched and real dark blue jeans!
>-Nick-
That's OK Nick, we laugh at New Yorkers too. Doesn't much matter what
they're wearing :-)
Susan
Lampasas TX
JeannetteW
Recently, I submitted a chapter to my online writer's group in which a
character had "pressed" jeans. <something not at all out of the ordinary
here in New Mexico>. I received several comments similar to, "Pressed
jeans?? Isn't that going a bit far??"
Being a NM'can native <and a bonafide sh*tkicker> it's common practice to
press your "good" jeans so that there is a very definite crease. "Good"
jeans are the ones you wear when you dress up. Other jeans, you don't
worry about pressing. I also attended a wedding reception in Nashville
this past July. I was told that yes, I could wear jeans, but, quote,
"They'd better be pressed!"
However, there is one slight difference between some NM'can's jeans and
the Texan over-the-roper-stacking pant legs. <Just a tid bit for
N.Easterners> When I was growing up, the practice was to slit the back of
the legs near the heel so that only the toes of your boots were visible if
you weren't able to get "boot cut" jeans, or if the hem was too narrow to
naturally wear out in the back <if your hems didn't cover your heels, you
were laughed at>. I, too, did this, though I never actually knew the
reason behind it. I later asked a friend and fellow NM'can sh*tkicker why
we did this. His answer? "To keep from looking like a Texan!" <G>
J--who hopes no Texan will take offense but will appreciate a little
friendly long-standing rivalry <G>
Marc Konchinsky
>
>>JEANS
>>Up here in New York Jeans Are Jeans, Nothing Is applied to them, they are
>>worn as is!
>>I would hate to go to Texas people would laugh because I don't have the
>>starched and real dark blue jeans!
>
>>-Nick-
I just don't like the wrinkles my jeans have when I get them out of the
dryer. Even if I get them right out of the dryer when the drying is
completed, they are still a little wrinkled. I iron and starch my jeans,
but I *DON'T* put creases in them. Does that mean I am riding the fence?
:-)
--
Marc Konchinsky, C. P. A.
Chief Party Arranger
Great Times D. J. Entertainment
Serving Southeastern PA & beyond!
DJMarc on IRC
Randy Turney
:Funny that I should come across this thread...
We won't take offense to this if y'all promise to not
hold it against for selling your state to the Federal
gov't.
(That goes for Colorado too)
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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- P. J. O'Rourke
Ted Samsel
: We won't take offense to this if y'all promise to not
: hold it against for selling your state to the Federal
: gov't.
: (That goes for Colorado too)
Hey, nobody asked me if we should be admitted.
"First Portales, then Santa Fe'"
Kirsty Gray
: In article <41c1e6$4...@grivel.une.edu.au> kgr...@metz.une.edu.au (Kirsty Gray) writes:
: >From: kgr...@metz.une.edu.au (Kirsty Gray)
: >Date: 22 Aug 1995 07:36:38 GMT
:
: >Megan Dietz (dietz...@ssd.loral.com) wrote:
: >: To get a crease to stay in your jeans, use extra heavy starch. They
: >: will also stay longer if you have them done at a dry cleaner/laundramat.
: >:
: >:
: >: Megan
: >:
: >:
: >- let alone strached them!! And I've met alot of cowboys....
: > Kirsty
:
: Come on across the lake to Texas, meet some Texas cowboys, and see what that
: does to your starch/non-starch ratio.:-)
:
: Eric
: I'd have to go across an ocean - I'm in Australia! I can't comment
on what Texans do with their jeans, but I know Aussie blokes don't even
know what a can of starch looks like....
Kirsty
:
:
:
Kelly Shuldberg
>:J--who hopes no Texan will take offense but will appreciate a little
>:friendly long-standing rivalry <G>
>
>
>We won't take offense to this if y'all promise to not
>hold it against for selling your state to the Federal
>gov't.
>
>(That goes for Colorado too)
Looks like it's time for another history lesson. Remember Glorieta Pass?
h. kelly shuldberg
hke...@swcp.com
Albuquerque, "never Texas" NM
Randy Turney
:[stuff about New Mexican/Texan jeans deleted]
:
:>:J--who hopes no Texan will take offense but will appreciate a little
:>:friendly long-standing rivalry <G>
:>
:>
:>We won't take offense to this if y'all promise to not
:>hold it against for selling your state to the Federal
:>gov't.
:>
:>(That goes for Colorado too)
:
:Looks like it's time for another history lesson. Remember Glorieta Pass?
Looks like there are still some hard feelin's. What I can't
figure out though, is why do New Mexicans get so mad about
Texans comin' in and tryin' to buy North West Texas back a piece
at a time. If you lucky, we'll beat the Californians to it. :)
Eric S. Barna
>: I'd have to go across an ocean - I'm in Australia! I can't comment
>on what Texans do with their jeans, but I know Aussie blokes don't even
>know what a can of starch looks like....
> Kirsty
>:
>:
>:
I know you're in Australia (the ... .edu.au gives it away). I usually refer
to the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans as ponds or lakes. As in "take a trip
across the pond to my relatives in London." Buy them a can of starch,
they'll thank you.:-)
Eric
JeannetteW
>Looks like there are still some hard feelin's. What I can't
>figure out though, is why do New Mexicans get so mad about
>Texans comin' in and tryin' to buy North West Texas back a piece
>at a time. If you lucky, we'll beat the Californians to it. :)
LOL! Californian's? Hell, it's the NY'ers we gotta worry about! <G>
Not too long ago, a friend of mine from Plano, TX <okay, so not *all*
Texans are to be avoided :) > sent me a copy of an old Spanish map he'd
found in a book. Whether it was a goof, or an actual map of the time
remains to be seen...however, it listed what is currently El Paso, east
through most of the Pan Handle as...New Mexico! <VBG>
J--who indeed remembers Glorietta Pass
Raymond Cottrell
writes:
>
>rItu...@fd.dsccc.com (Randy Turney) writes:
>
>
>>Looks like there are still some hard feelin's. What I can't
>>figure out though, is why do New Mexicans get so mad about
>>Texans comin' in and tryin' to buy North West Texas back a piece
>>at a time. If you lucky, we'll beat the Californians to it. :)
>
>LOL! Californian's? Hell, it's the NY'ers we gotta worry about! <G>
>
>
HA! Heres another NY'er coming at you next summer!
Greg Vaughn
(JeannetteW) wrote:
> Not too long ago, a friend of mine from Plano, TX <okay, so not *all*
> Texans are to be avoided :) > sent me a copy of an old Spanish map he'd
> found in a book. Whether it was a goof, or an actual map of the time
> remains to be seen...however, it listed what is currently El Paso, east
> through most of the Pan Handle as...New Mexico! <VBG>
That was an actual map. Back around the time Texas won its independance
from Mexico the borders did include around half of modern-day New Mexico
and some of Colorado. I think there was even a smidgen of Wyoming in there
too!
All Texas public schools are required to teach a year of Texas History in
jr. high. That way we know what parts of NM to buy back :-) :-) :-)
--
Greg Vaughn G.Va...@ttu.edu
Newton Developer NETSeer Corp.
"If this were a logical world, *men* would ride sidesaddle"
{My views do not necessarily represent those of my employer}
Ranger Rita
G.Va...@ttu.edu (Greg Vaughn) writes:
>
>All Texas public schools are required to teach a year of Texas History
in
>jr. high. That way we know what parts of NM to buy back :-) :-) :-)
research at all before he defamed our State in that book he mis-named
"Texas."
Ranger Rita
Greg Vaughn
(Ranger Rita) wrote:
Is the book really that bad too? I had to change the channel after seeing
the first half of the first day of the TV mini-series. My stomach couldn't
handle it. I was hoping the problem was just with the screenplay and not
the book. I guess I'll steer clear of it to save myself a lot of anger ;-)
--
Greg Vaughn G.Va...@ttu.edu
Newton Developer NETSeer Corp.
"If this were a logical world, *men* would ride sidesaddle"
Ted Samsel
: In article <429p20$1...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, rri...@ix.netcom.com
: (Ranger Rita) wrote:
: > In <G.Vaughn-010...@slip-39-13.ots.utexas.edu>
: > G.Va...@ttu.edu (Greg Vaughn) writes:
: > >
: > >All Texas public schools are required to teach a year of Texas History
: > in
: > >jr. high. That way we know what parts of NM to buy back :-) :-) :-)
: > >
: > A fact that James Michener would've learned if'n he had done any
: > research at all before he defamed our State in that book he mis-named
: > "Texas."
: Is the book really that bad too? I had to change the channel after seeing
: the first half of the first day of the TV mini-series. My stomach couldn't
: handle it. I was hoping the problem was just with the screenplay and not
: the book. I guess I'll steer clear of it to save myself a lot of anger ;-)
Yes.. a truly silly book. Read EMPIRE OF BONES & A GATHERING OF EAGLES by
Jeff Long. E of Bones is a novel about the period between the Fall of the
Alamo and after San Jacinto as witnessed by Sam Houston and is quite good.
A G of Eagles is a straight history about the the Texas War of
Independence. Also good.......
<see also BLOOD MERIDIAN by Cormac McCarthy>
--
Ted Samsel....tejas@infi.net
"In a dying culture, snobs are a vital natural race horse"
Kelly Shuldberg
>> Texans are to be avoided :) > sent me a copy of an old Spanish map he'd
>> found in a book. Whether it was a goof, or an actual map of the time
>> remains to be seen...however, it listed what is currently El Paso, east
>> through most of the Pan Handle as...New Mexico! <VBG>
>
>That was an actual map. Back around the time Texas won its independance
>from Mexico the borders did include around half of modern-day New Mexico
>and some of Colorado. I think there was even a smidgen of Wyoming in there
>too!
>
>jr. high. That way we know what parts of NM to buy back :-) :-) :-)
>
>Greg Vaughn G.Va...@ttu.edu
Yeah, and shortly after Brigham Young and his followers arrived in Salt
Lake Valley, he laid claim to about half of the mountain west as part of
his State of Deseret. He, like the Texans mentioned above, were not able
to actually physically lay claim to the territories they coveted. Take a
peek at Simmon's History of New Mexico for a quick, short read from the New
Mexican point of view.
What does this have to do with C&W? Not much, I'm afraid. Maybe we can
get the thread back on track by mentioning that The NM State Fair starts
this coming weekend, with nightly performances by numerous C&W artists as
part of the rodeo. The only performer I know for certain will appear is
Michael Martin Murphy because my wife insists on seeing him. Does anyone
have a schedule handy they could post?
h. kelly shuldberg
hke...@swcp.com
Albuquerque, "used to be Mexico, but never Texas", NM
JeannetteW
Michelle Wright Sept 8
Bellamy Brothers Sept 9
Black Hawk Sept 11 (Sept 10th is Hispanic Heritage Night with
Pedro Fernandez and Lola Beltran)
John Anderson Sept 12
Rick Travino Sept 13
George Ducas Sept 14
Marty Stuart Sept 15
Michael Martin Murphy Sept 16
Suzy Bogguss Sept 17
Toby Keith Sept 18
Tractors Sept 19
Rhett Akins Sept 20
Darle Singeltary Sept 21
Marshall Tucker Band Sept 22
Roy Clark Sept 23
Rodeo Finals Sept 24
Michael Shane
>*Real* cowboys do not starch their jeans; city slickers do. No real
>cowgirl would be caught dead dancin with a guy with creased jeans
>unless he could sing like George Strait, too.
>Ranger Rita
Starch? Jean's <> This Yuppie ,johntravolta thing has got way
out of hand. I gotta laugh to keep from crying..
Rita im with ya in Heart and Soul, But where do we
go from here...
Skoal Tin's with Sugar Cube's
Randy Turney
:rItu...@fd.dsccc.com (Randy Turney) writes:
:
:
:>Looks like there are still some hard feelin's. What I can't
:>figure out though, is why do New Mexicans get so mad about
:>Texans comin' in and tryin' to buy North West Texas back a piece
:>at a time. If you lucky, we'll beat the Californians to it. :)
:
:LOL! Californian's? Hell, it's the NY'ers we gotta worry about! <G>
:Not too long ago, a friend of mine from Plano, TX <okay, so not *all*
We are trying to sell Plano along with Dallas county to the
govt. :)
:<okay, so not *all*Texans are to be avoided :) >
I didn't know that there were any Texans in Plano. ;)
Randy Turney
:In <427vg2$h...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> jeann...@aol.com (JeannetteW)
:
:>
:>rItu...@fd.dsccc.com (Randy Turney) writes:
:>
:>
:>>Looks like there are still some hard feelin's. What I can't
:>>figure out though, is why do New Mexicans get so mad about
:>>Texans comin' in and tryin' to buy North West Texas back a piece
:>>at a time. If you lucky, we'll beat the Californians to it. :)
:>
:>LOL! Californian's? Hell, it's the NY'ers we gotta worry about! <G>
:>
:>
: HA! Heres another NY'er coming at you next summer!
get a rope :) (Maybe we won't but New Mexico County back
after all.)
Marc Konchinsky
>>cowgirl would be caught dead dancin with a guy with creased jeans
>>unless he could sing like George Strait, too.
>>Ranger Rita
I just saw Rhett Akins in concert last night (he opened for Reba), we had
19th row so I could definetely see that he was wearing *starched*
*creased* faded jeans. So, Rita, you wouldn't dance with him, huh?
Starched creased jeans are a regional fashion--some places it is
fashionable, some places it isn't.... This is the thread that won't die,
errrr, maybe the jeans won't unravel, errrr, the thread won't unravel,
errrr.....
--
Marc Konchinsky, C. P. A.
Chief Party Arranger
Great Times D. J. Entertainment Serving Southeastern PA & beyond!
DJMarc on IRC "I'm old enough to know better, but I'm still to young to care"
DANJRUS
dry cleaned (and pressed) every time I wore them. (OK -- so daddy owned a
dry cleaning store).
They stayed the original color -- and got that SAME light/white crease
line.
mikhail...@gmail.com
> Hello!
> I have a little problem, I'm woundering how
> everybody you are maintaining their creases on there
> jeans. Mine disappears after a couple of hours.
> Are they just ironing them or are they using some
> sort of strengthening spray or something like that?
> I'm woundering because I think's it look's nice having
> creases on my jeans.
> And do you just have to iron you jeans long enough
> to get white lines on them? ( I know they are worn-out lines)
>
> Hope some knows the answear
>
> Patrik
> n-h.kr...@waab.se
all the people saying no creases ...where are you from????????????????????? They are wranglers!!!!!!!!!! only one way to wear wranglers - starched, stacked, creased. Or you could be a little city boy