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Jennifer & Dale

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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ok, heres my thoughts. So, now all of a sudden ppl realize how easily and
Cheap it is too make our own Cd's. And yes, I'm guilty. But paybacks are a
bitch. So to all those artists who have been ripping us off for what, the
last 13 years? Making us pay $15 dollars for a cd.... Shame.... And
thanks for taking technology to this new level where we can save ourselves
some money.

Besides, don't you all say that you are in the business just because you
love music? Well love your music, and let us appreciate it along with you,
and recognize you as someone with a special gift... music...

Sue Wood

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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Uh oh! Hears the sound of distant hoofbeats as the lynch mob approaches
(lol.. J/K!!)

Will give you credit for having the strength of your convictions behind
you.. and credit for having posted your opinions here in a public
forum. I also believe you're entitled to your own opinion... regardless
of whether I agree or not (and, I'm NOT saying!).

Having said that... please remember you HAVE posted your opinion in a
PUBLIC forum... and therefore, you may well receive a response to it.
Hope you've got yer bullet proof undies on! LOL

Sue
:o)


Balecox

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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The artists have been ripping you off? Think they set that CD price? Think
they pocket all the money? Think the songwriters are the ones setting the
prices? Your post is such a lame excuse for the fact that you've found a way
to steal and not be prosecuted that I won't even try and explain it to you.

Personally, I think $15 for a CD is a fair price. A hard back book costs
around $25. Popcorn at the movies is overpriced. Everything in this economy
costs.

Patsi

Dan Sgambelluri

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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Wrong, the people who set the price is the record companies, not the
songwriters, artists or bands. They control what the prices of CDs are,
that is why most stores have the prices about the same. The record company
pay all the people from the record. The artist and band only get a
percentage of money and they must pay back the record company for promotion,
merchandising, studio time and all the stuff that the record company has
paid for the artist or band. This is how the Hip Hop group TLC who sold
Millions and Millions of CDs had to declare bankruptcy because they got a
small percentage of the total sales and they had to pay back the record
company and than the money they had left was very little and had to be split
three ways as there are three singers in TLC. They each had even less money
so they had to declare bankruptcy. Some artist have contracts in which they
get a bigger piece of the pie but they are artist that have been around for
a few years and have been successful so the record company isn't fearful
they will lose money on the deal. But the CD prices don't change. The
artist would sell their CDs for pracitically nothing if the record company
doesn't basis the artists salary on sales. Artists are like some athletes
that are involved with Charitable organizations like Wayne Gretzky and
Michael Jordan and Joe Montana, they would play their sports for free
because they love their sport. If artists love what they do, they would do
it for free. Some artists do it for the money and being famous but majority
of them love what they do.

The companies are the ones that control the prices in every consumer
catergory, some places might have something a few dollars cheaper but don't
expect to buy a new CD for a buck at any store.

Jennifer & Dale wrote in message
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>ok, heres my thoughts. So, now all of a sudden ppl realize how easily and
>Cheap it is too make our own Cd's. And yes, I'm guilty. But paybacks are
a

>bitch. So to all those artists who have been ripping us off for what, the

QTIMACHINE

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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Clark Reid wrote-

>I too admire the courage of your convictions. But I have to ask you, as your
>post is addressed to "all artists", of which I am one, can you please
>explain to me why you believe $15 is an excessive amount for you to
>recompense me for an album. As an independant it cost me over $20,000

Hello Clark,
I usually just gloss over this newsgroup now and then but this thread just
made me stop and respond:)I have no quarrell with $15 CDs,or any price for that
matter.If I can afford it and it's worth it to ME,maybe I'll buy it,if not I'll
listen for free on the radio.The thing that "burns my biscuits" is that when
you go to the store or read the ads,it's something like$7.99 for
cassette,$13.99 for CD.Since the music is the same(Maybe a couple of bonus
tracks) it seems to imply that the cost to produce the Cd is $6 more than the
cost to produce a cassette,which we all know is not correct. Regards,Mark

PS-On a side note,every time I buy a cd just because of a new song I heard on
the radio,I'm almost always disappointed.It has a couple of good songs and a
lot of filler.So I usually am attracted to the bargain bin and stuff like
"Willie Nelson Super Hits" and such where all the songs are great songs,and for
5 o6 dollars too.Exceptions are Alan Jacksons Under The Influence and Jones
Cold Hard Truth.But then,this is just my opinion

Ritaloves3

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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>Subject: Re: Napster... to all artists
>From: "Dan Sgambelluri"

> the people who set the price is the record companies, not the

>songwriters, artists or bands. All of them had better start
worring, what with what is coming out of "Nashville" these days,none of them
are going to be making any money from me!

Ritaloves3

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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>Subject: Re: Napster... to all artists
>From: "Clark Reid"

>can you please
>explain to me why you believe $15 is an excessive amount for you to
>recompense me for an album.

Because 99% of the time, there may be only 2 -3 at the most that are worth
listening to.I'm not speaking of yours personally, but all the others I have
bought.

Rick and Debbie Caudill

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>"Jennifer & Dale" <j...@netcom.ca> wrote in message
>news:_d2d5.30907$qS3....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...

>> ok, heres my thoughts. So, now all of a sudden ppl realize how easily and
>> Cheap it is too make our own Cd's. And yes, I'm guilty. But paybacks are
>a
>> bitch. So to all those artists who have been ripping us off for what, the
>> last 13 years? Making us pay $15 dollars for a cd.... Shame.... And
>> thanks for taking technology to this new level where we can save ourselves
>> some money.
>>
>> Besides, don't you all say that you are in the business just because you
>> love music? Well love your music, and let us appreciate it along with
>you,
>> and recognize you as someone with a special gift... music...
Sorry but I gotta ask this......don't you get paid for doing your job?
They might love the music but put plain and simple, they have to eat
too. If it weren't for them you wouldn't be appreciating their music.
This is their livelihood you're talking about here. People appreciate
toilets too, but plumbers get paid.......

joeda

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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In the last year I've bought the most recent CD's from Clint
Black, Alan Jackson, Reba, George Strait, George Jones, Trisha,
Vince and most recently Lee Ann Womack. I have been disappointed
in only one of those CD's. The rest are filled with songs that
I can listen to over and over. I realize tastes differ and you
may prefer a different style of music than I do, but I have
very few CD's where I only like 2 or 3 songs. In many cases, I
love the album cuts more than the singles. I don't have a problem
with the cost of CD's and if occasionally I'm disappointed, well
that's life.
I've paid to see movies I was disappointed in, to buy books I
haven't particularly enjoyed, and to eat in restaurants that
didn't live up to their hype. In none of those cases did I figure
that my disappointment justified the idea that the next time I
could just steal the product. I guess I just don't "get" it.


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Ritaloves3

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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>Subject: Re: Napster... to all artists
>From: joeda


>In the last year I've bought the most recent CD's from Clint
>Black, Alan Jackson, Reba, George Strait, George Jones, Trisha,
>Vince and most recently Lee Ann Womack. I have been disappointed
>in only one of those CD's.

Let me guess???? It has to be Vince!! It should be nominated for "Worse Album
Of The Year".

Coop

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Ritaloves3 wrote:

>
> Let me guess???? It has to be Vince!! It should be nominated for "Worse Album
> Of The Year".

Are the fish biting?

Coop


Ritaloves3

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>Subject: Re: Napster... to all artists
>From: Coop co...@twang.edu
>Date: 7/18/00 7:47 PM Eastern

>Are the fish biting?
>

Ha, don't you dare!!

joeda

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rital...@aol.com (Ritaloves3) wrote:
>>Subject: Re: Napster... to all artists
>>From: joeda
>
>
>
>
>>In the last year I've bought the most recent CD's from Clint
>>Black, Alan Jackson, Reba, George Strait, George Jones, Trisha,
>>Vince and most recently Lee Ann Womack. I have been
disappointed
>>in only one of those CD's.
>Let me guess???? It has to be Vince!! It should be nominated for
"Worse Album
>Of The Year".
>
>
Nice to see my point sailed right over your head. I also forgot
to mention the Dixie Chicks album, also excellent. Yes, there
is crap coming out of Nashville, but there is also some really
great stuff.

Clark Reid

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Jul 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/19/00
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I too admire the courage of your convictions. But I have to ask you, as your
post is addressed to "all artists", of which I am one, can you please

explain to me why you believe $15 is an excessive amount for you to
recompense me for an album. As an independant it cost me over $20,000 to
record and about half that again to market it. associated misc. costs would
be another $10,000. Then there is the time and hours inbvolved in the
creation of the music itself. It costs me $5.00 (NZ) per disc ($2.50 approx.
US). So please outline where I need a "payback" for my excessive pricing?

Clark Reid
www.clarkreid.cjb.net

Sandra Denise

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>All of them had better start
>worring, what with what is coming out of "Nashville" these days,none of them
>are going to be making any money from me!
>

And i'm sure "all of them" aren't too worried about what money *you* are
giving them because for every 1 CD you don't buy, there will be 100 people who
DO buy it...
I'm not fond of all of the stuff coming out of Nashville these days either,
but if there are people who want to buy that, let them! And let they others be
the judge of what they think is worth paying for!
<3 Sandy
Lyco...@aol.com

"A lot of people would like to blame them [country radio] if they think there's
something wrong with country music, but they just play what they're given.
We're making the music here." Brad Paisley

Ritaloves3

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>Subject: Re: Napster... to all artists
>From: lyco...@aol.com (Sandra Denise)

>but if there are people who want to buy that, let them!

Good Lord, girl, I didn't say they Couldn't!!

Clark Reid

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I agree totally. The disparity between tapes and CD';s is hard to justify.

The bargin bins is where you find the treasure too!!!

Clark Reid
www.clarkreid.cjb.net


"QTIMACHINE" <qtima...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Clark Reid wrote-


>
> >I too admire the courage of your convictions. But I have to ask you, as
your
> >post is addressed to "all artists", of which I am one, can you please
> >explain to me why you believe $15 is an excessive amount for you to
> >recompense me for an album. As an independant it cost me over $20,000
>

MeIDKMOS

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>So to all those artists who have been ripping us off for what, the last 13
years? Making us pay $15 dollars for a cd.... Shame.... >

The artists didn't MAKE you pay anything. You want the item, you chose to buy
it. You don't want to pay full price? Wait for a sale or until they reach used
stores.


Balecox

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Well said. I concur! Patsi
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