Randy Travis Homosexual
F.Gentry
Well we sure have enough smoke here for a fire. No one has been a big
country star and been a known homosexual. Time will tell. I for one
will wait and see what happens. Perhaps this is why he got so many
parts in T.V. and movies. I didn't think he was that great an actor but
I thought he was a great singer. Cheers, Floyd
Paul Wiening
F.Gentry (fge...@flash.net) wrote:
: Well we sure have enough smoke here for a fire. No one has been a big
Oh I dunno, it never helped Ray Price get any good acting jobs.
Randytravs
For the record:
I have never had a homosexual encounter of any sort in my life. The
individuals
making such statements will be dealt with in time.
We are sorry that it has come to this, but we must take action.
JuvenileHi
In article <199805220122...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
randy...@aol.com (Randytravs) writes:
>Subject: Re: Randy Travis Homosexual
>From: randy...@aol.com (Randytravs)
>Date: 22 May 1998 01:22:09 GMT
Hey, I thought you were Mindy McCready!
Lee
uh-oh. I have a new CD on the market! Check out the crappy web page for it
at: http://www.angelfire.com/va/RosebudRecords/index.html
http://members.aol.com/JuvenileHi/index.html
Rev. Jim
F.Gentry wrote in message <3563A4...@flash.net>...
>Well we sure have enough smoke here for a fire. No one has been a big
>country star and been a known homosexual. Time will tell. I for one
>will wait and see what happens. Perhaps this is why he got so many
>parts in T.V. and movies. I didn't think he was that great an actor but
>I thought he was a great singer. Cheers, Floyd
BZZZT.
k.d. lang has won a couple of Grammys in the country category and has been
out as a lesbian for years. Her first Grammy coincided with a top 10 single
in 1989, back before the HNC movement, when she was briefly a regular on
country radio.
F.Gentry ICQ # 10268424
David Goodstadt
>F.Gentry wrote in message <3563A4...@flash.net>...
>>Well we sure have enough smoke here for a fire. No one has been a big
>>country star and been a known homosexual. Time will tell. I for one
>>will wait and see what happens. Perhaps this is why he got so many
>>parts in T.V. and movies. I didn't think he was that great an actor but
>>I thought he was a great singer. Cheers, Floyd
>
Anyway, does it matter if the music is good?
Balecox
I agree with Nshvlbrat....let's drop this thread. It's irrelevant and been
done to death.
ThurberMan
Only thing is the honesty that will come in the music and the person.
Country muisc fans should be just as open as pop fans . A singer should feel
comfortable being openly gay and singing too, especially if they are good
Craig
ThurberMan
Please Stella don't help me- You have a very extreme view that is not
related to my view - I just people to honest and i realize that some people
will never be
Craig
DONDI3
In article <6khcnl$4...@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>, guyg...@ix.netcom.com(x)
writes:
>
>When I say "Retro Segregation," I mean the extreme conservative
>intolerant fringe of people who can't accept minorities, gays,
>progressive women, or subjects like spouse abuse, child abuse, etc.
>Nashville country music is now targeting a narrow audience of Retro
>Segregationists. So, Mary Chapin and her label have been told she is no
>longer welcome on Nashville media. And other progressives like Suzy
>have caved in and sold out their values to the Retros.
I accept minorities, progressive women (depending on what you define as
"progress"), tolerate gays, and decry spousal abuse & child abuse. (such as the
abuse you wish school children to be exposed to by the Indigo girls).
Guess that makes me a Hetro Metro Retro Anti-Segregationist.
Dondi3
DONDI enterprises. BUY, SELL, TRADE. RARE COINS & PRECIOUS METALS
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Next show: Dubuque Inn, Dubuque IA (by Target) Sunday 5/31. See you there!
Ron Leonard
>>>parts in T.V. and movies. I didn't think he was that great an actor but
>>>I thought he was a great singer. Cheers, Floyd
>>
>Anyway, does it matter if the music is good?
Yes, it matters to me if he is a fudge packing, butt hole surfing,
God-cursed heathen sodomite.
ThurberMan
>Yes, it matters to me if he is a fudge packing, butt hole surfing,
God-cursed heathen sodomite.<
Another intelligent comment from the overeducated masses!
Craig
JRandorff
In article <u4fb1.86$Go3.2...@newse2.tampabay.rr.com>, "Ron Leonard"
<nos...@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>Yes, it matters to me if he is a fudge packing, butt hole surfing,
>God-cursed heathen sodomite.
Why does it matter to you? You interested in him?
If someone's sexual preferance makes that much difference to you that it
effects your opinion of their music, go listen to some of the folk singers in
the Haitashbury (sp?) district of San Francisco. That'll give you something to
use up all that free time you seem to have on your hands.
Later,
~~James Michael Randorff (jran...@aol.com)
~~http://members.aol.com/jrandorff/index.html <-- Homepage About My Singing
Career (down again)
~~http://members.aol.com/liiamccann/home.html <-- the Complete Unauthorized
Lila McCann Homepage :)
Martin
Why?
Are you so into yourself that you think he might fancy you or something?
Does he really pose a threat to you?
Martin.
Ron Leonard wrote in message ...
>
>>>>parts in T.V. and movies. I didn't think he was that great an actor but
>>>>I thought he was a great singer. Cheers, Floyd
>>>
>>Anyway, does it matter if the music is good?
>
>
Deysew
I really like Randy's new CD, "You and You Alone", I think it is some of his
best work.
SinginCJ
>>
>>Yes, it matters to me if he is a fudge packing, butt hole surfing,
>>God-cursed heathen sodomite.
>>
Excuse me,
It is not for any human to say who is God-cursed, only God can do that.
No remarks out of you Stella-er- NuJesus... Yep, I had to make a refferrence
to state the obvious "I know that Nu-Jesus is one of Stella's sockpuppets"
gds...@twlakes.net
In article <199805290117...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
I agree that it is not anyones job to judge another person, but you might
want to look at Genesis and read what happened in Sodom. That said the
correct attitude would be to show love to those who you disagree with, seems
that's what Jesus Christ did. I don't recall him insulting people.
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
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gle...@ctaz.com
> If someone's sexual preferance makes that much difference to you that it
> effects your opinion of their music, go listen to some of the folk singers
in
> the Haitashbury (sp?) district of San Francisco. That'll give you
something to
> use up all that free time you seem to have on your hands.
Do they still HAVE folk singers in Haight-Ashbury??
I thought they all grew up and became upscale yuppies.
Glenn S.
TiggerJMM
Ron Leonard gave us this nugget of joy...
<<
someone else wrote this part...
>>>parts in T.V. and movies. I didn't think he was that great an actor but
>>>I thought he was a great singer. Cheers, Floyd
>>
>Anyway, does it matter if the music is good?
Yes, it matters to me if he is a fudge packing, butt hole surfing,
God-cursed heathen sodomite.>>
Is it any of your business?
TiGG
http://members.aol.com/tiggerjmm (Welcome To My World)
http://members.aol.com/anjlnmyeys (Katie's John Michael Montgomery Page)
http://members.aol.com/boydteresa (Introducing Montgomery Gentry)
JRandorff
>Do they still HAVE folk singers in Haight-Ashbury??
>I thought they all grew up and became upscale yuppies.
LOL -- you have a point, but there are still some tried-and-true hippie folk
singers that stuck it out. :)
GEMZpro
Has anyone told his wife???
JRandorff
In article <35713650....@news.bna.bellsouth.net>, radio*2...@bigfoot.com
writes:
>>LOL -- you have a point, but there are still some tried-and-true hippie folk
>>singers that stuck it out. :)
>
>
>You can get arrested for sticking it out in public.
True..... but probably not in Haight-Ashbury. ;)
Plugnickle
I bet the gamblers that Jesus threw out of the temples thought he
more than insulted them. I believe that Jesus forgives people who
truly change. I don't believe that he was paling around the
homo's when he was on this earth. The bible doesn't condone
homosexuality. It's wrong in my opinion, and it's a sad society
that just looks the other way. I have the right to buy or not buy
any ones music, for whatever reason. Yes, even if someone is a
homo.
That said, I also don't believe everything that people say.
Especially when they can remain anonymous, as in these newsgroups
Many small people get very big fingers when they type these
messages. I'll personally continue to buy his CD's if I want
them, that is, until or if he "comes out of the proverbial
closet".
Steve
ThurberMan
Show me where Jesus said, pointed to or condemned homosexuals in any way and
then talk to me about what is right or wrong?
Craig
Cowboy
Leviticus is Old Testament. Some things of the old testament have been
discontinued by the New Testament. Eating shrimp, men's shaving, and women's
haircuts have all been discontinued in the NT, but homosexuality has not.
Cowboy
radio*2...@bigfoot.com wrote in message
<357289f5...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>...
>Jesus never mentioned it. And furthermore, the very same sections of
Leviticus
>that talk about homosexuality, also strongly condemn eating shrimp and
pork,
>men shaving, women cutting their hair, and lots of other things that many
>folks conveniently ignore these days.
>
>-- Geno in Nastyville, Tennisshoe
>
>******************************************************
>If you see an asterisk (*) in my return address ...
>please remember to remove it before hitting reply.
>Still trying to thwart the blasted spammers, you know.
>******************************************************
JJ 813
>Leviticus is Old Testament. Some things of the old testament have been
>discontinued by the New Testament. Eating shrimp, men's shaving, and women's
>haircuts have all been discontinued in the NT, but homosexuality has not.
Oh please! So by that logic, when homosexuality finally becomes something that
becomes more widely acceptable, it too will not be a "sin"?
Seems to me that most of the so-called moral majority conveniently ignore those
things in the bible that they feel comfortable ignoring, and continue to preach
hell and damnation for those who don't think the same way.
I personally get tired of listening to bible-thumping bigots in a country music
newsgroup. Isn't there alt.indignantly.righteous or something similar to go
post in?
Oh and yes, there happens to be a huge country music following in the gay and
lesbian community, and who gives a damn? What difference does it make if an
artist is gay or not? I personally don't care what you do in your bedroom, I
read this group to follow up with my favorite country artists, and I wish those
who feel the need to preach would take it to an appropriate ON-TOPIC newsgroup.
Just my $0.02, no doubt flames to follow
--Jenny
mz...@hotmail.com
Jethro
JJ 813 wrote:
> "Cowboy" wrote...
How right you are. Also by that same logic, the Old Testament should be
completely replaced by the New Testament. Don't you just love it when
someone picks something they have no interest in, and uses it to condemn
someone else in the name of "religion"!!
Nshvlbrat
><jethro...@hotmail.com> stated:
>the Old Testament should be
>completely replaced by the New Testament.
I believe that 1 Corinthians is in the New Testament. Check out
that book chapter 6 verses 9 & 10. Most of us seem to be treading on thin ice,
as well. However, it does state that "...nor men who lie with men will
inherit God's kingdom. Sorry... it's there.
-Brat
"Dogs think they're human...cats KNOW they are"
"A house is not a home without a cat"
Cowboy
>by that same logic, the Old Testament should be completely
>replaced by the New Testament.
Not true—only the parts that the NT says have become void.
>Don't you just love it when
>someone picks something they have no interest in, and uses it to condemn
>someone else in the name of "religion"!!
I am not condemning anyone. Get that straight, please.
Cowboy
By the way, I went through this a few months ago with a thread that started
out something like "Ty Herndon is Gay" or something. I'm tired of making my
point over and over and over again, when it's obvious that my words are
futile. If you have anything else to say to me on the subject, please e-mail
me, because I won't be posting under this thread anymore.
Ted Holder
ThurberMan wrote:
>
> I love shrimp, pork, and shaving.Guess i am just a big sinner see you all in
> hell!
> Craig
Why the hell not? I've already made my reservations... I just wish
this thread would go to hell, fast. In other words, why in hell does
it keep going? Isn't it just about worn out?????
a
After many listens, my favorite song on "Chris Knight" is "The Hammer
Going Down." I think it's one of the best country songs by a male in a
long time.
Chris captures with his poetry the raw lustful voice of American
masculinity...in a love song, no less. It's the voice of a trucker
fueled down the highway by his need for a woman. The imagery is right
out of Ernest Hemmingway, if Hemmingway had been into 18 wheelers.
"The suns's going down on me
thoughts of her keep haunting me
desperation's taking hold
My hands are on the steering wheel
But my heart's back in Louisville
At the far end of a thousand miles of road
My mind is grinding like a steel gear baby..."
With all the sap-singing HNC cowboys, Nashville has abandoned this real
American male voice and artists like Chris, Jack Ingram and Steve Earle
who deliver it. American men may send their women Hallmark greeting
cards with sap love lyrics. But they don't talk or think that way, and
don't want their music to sound that way. It's why the worst of the
sap-singers, like John Michael Montgomery and Trace Adkins, are going
down the toilet.
"The Hammer Going Down" also features Kenny Greenberg and David Grissom
on dueling electric guitars, doing for 18-wheelers what Joe Satriani
did for motorcycles. It's an amazing country love song.
Stella
ThurberMan
ThurberMan
>Leviticus is Old Testament. Some things of the old testament have been
discontinued by the New Testament. Eating shrimp, men's shaving, and women's
haircuts have all been discontinued in the NT, but homosexuality has not.>
But where does Christ discontinue one and not the other? Have you ever read
the bible or is your polyester suit wearing Preacher tell you that?
Craig
ThurberMan
Brat - Like I told James- That part of the bible is written by paul - Those
are not the words of Jesus
Craig
GEMZpro
>Brat - Like I told James- That part of the bible is written by paul -
Wonder what Peter and Mary have to say about it.....
....and let's get Puff's opinion while we're at it!
F.Gentry
>>Just for you bible scholars who are quoting the bible about homosexuality, the above post is absolutely true. Jesus never said anything in the bible in the first person. The bible was written by the apostles. Jesus did not write the bible. If you will notice some bibles have what Jesus said in red. This is what the writer stated Jesus said. It is all in the second person. It was written supposedly by men inspired by God. However, if you take your modern day evangelist you will find many of them you put themselves on the same level of the apostles.
You can sit here and argue the bible the remainder of your life and
never agree. This is why we have the different denominations. Each
denomination can prove their faith by taking certain parts of the bible.
Also do not forget the "quotes" of Jesus could be accurate and some of
them may not be. It was written by mortal man and according to these
men Jesus spoke in parables. This somewhat complicates the
interpretation. Actually it complicates it a lot.
I personally would love to go to some non denominational bible school
and wipe my mind clean and see what i could really learn about the bible
from a neutral standpoint. I have read it through at least twice. Its
very complicated. Please don't send me a bunch of religious posts and
schools where you can get a literal non-denominational interpretation of
the Bible. I haven't found one. Its always twisted in the direction of
whatever denomination funds the school etc. Sorry about this
preaching. Just practicing up for the tour. Floyd
Plugnickle
Why did Lot offer to give his daughters to the homosexuals,
instead of the angels? Genesis 19 v.4-13, The Lord is the same
today as he has always been, and here God condemned a city for
their immoral acts.
I don't want to get into a biblical flame war. I'll try not to
post anymore on the subject unless forced to do so.
If you want to post your opinions, fine. Just remember that we
all like to post our opinions too.
Steve
Plugnickle
Careful now, one day you will regret saying things like that.
Steve
Ted Holder wrote in message <35720E...@swbell.net>...
Cowboy
The Bible is the foundation of my religion. If you cannot accept the fact
that it is infallible, and completely without error, than I cannot argue
with you. Where is the point in that? Quoting the Bible will not change your
mind about anything, so I won't even try. Show me someone who believes that
the Bible is the word of God, and I'll argue my heart out.
I could spend a lot more time on this post telling you why the Bible is
perfect, but it would be a waste of time.
Cowboy
a
In <6kuuv5$nej$1...@server.cntfl.com> "Cowboy" <cow...@badsector.com>
writes:
Paul wrote more of the Bible than anybody else.
Do you believe Paul was infallible?
Stella
Jethro
Plugnickle <scha...@zbayou.com> wrote in article
<6kq05k$8o6$1...@news.bayou.com>...
> The bible doesn't condone
> homosexuality. It's wrong in my opinion, and it's a sad society
> that just looks the other way. I have the right to buy or not buy
> any ones music, for whatever reason. Yes, even if someone is a
> homo.
Of course you have the right to harbor your hatred, bigotry, and prejudice,
but you DON'T have the right to judge a society that doesn't share it with
you.
-Jethro
HockeyJMM
Randy is koo lay off.. so go pick on leann or bryan they are fags
Cowboy
If I were to quote the Bible on homosexuals, I would choose a passage from
the New Testament, not the Old. Same thing with the eating habits.
Cowboy
radio*2...@bigfoot.com wrote in message
<357405ef...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>...
>On Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:18:12 -0500, "Cowboy" <cow...@badsector.com> wrote:
>
>>The Bible is the foundation of my religion. If you cannot accept the fact
>>that it is infallible, and completely without error, than I cannot argue
>>with you.
>
>The Bible is absolutely perfect. It is folks' *interpretation* of it, that
is
>a problem at times.
>
>F'rinstance, why do some people constantly quote Leviticus when they want
to
>shake their fingers at homersexuals ... but ignore Leviticus' prohibitions,
>just a few paragraphs away, against eating clams, shrimp, pork, etc.?
Cowboy
No, I don't. I don't believe that Paul, or any other Biblical authors, were
infallible. In fact, Paul claims to have been the most sinful man in
history. He slew and imprisoned hundreds of Christians. But the words God
gave him to write were, and are, infallible.
Cowboy
a wrote in message <6kv1d7$9...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>...
>In <6kuuv5$nej$1...@server.cntfl.com> "Cowboy" <cow...@badsector.com>
>writes:
>>
>>The Bible is the foundation of my religion. If you cannot accept the
>fact that it is infallible, and completely without error, than I cannot
GEMZpro
Wow! Some of these people amaze me...who in the Hell cares??? I thought Anita
Bryant had been run out of human conscience a long time ago!!
icwis
GEMZpro wrote in message
<199806020526...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>Wow! Some of these people amaze me...who in the Hell cares??? I thought
Anita
>Bryant had been run out of human conscience a long time ago!!
>
I agree. I'll bet a lot of these self righteous people still listen to a
Cole Porter song occasionally and enjoy it such as:
Anything Goes
You'd be so nice to come home to
Night and day
In the still of the night
I've got you under my skin
and dozens...hundreds more.
And he was VERY gay when it was VERY taboo. The point is, we loved his
music, and other than that, what matters.
Dan
Grizzly
Jethro wrote:
>
> JJ 813 wrote:
> > "Cowboy" wrote...
> > >discontinued by the New Testament. Eating shrimp, men's shaving, and women's
> > >haircuts have all been discontinued in the NT, but homosexuality has not.
> >
> > becomes more widely acceptable, it too will not be a "sin"?
> >
> > Seems to me that most of the so-called moral majority conveniently ignore those
> > things in the bible that they feel comfortable ignoring, and continue to preach
> > hell and damnation for those who don't think the same way.
> >
> > I personally get tired of listening to bible-thumping bigots in a country music
> > newsgroup. Isn't there alt.indignantly.righteous or something similar to go
> > post in?
> >
> > Oh and yes, there happens to be a huge country music following in the gay and
> > lesbian community, and who gives a damn? What difference does it make if an
> > artist is gay or not? I personally don't care what you do in your bedroom, I
> > read this group to follow up with my favorite country artists, and I wish those
> > who feel the need to preach would take it to an appropriate ON-TOPIC newsgroup.
>
> completely replaced by the New Testament. Don't you just love it when
> someone picks something they have no interest in, and uses it to condemn
> someone else in the name of "religion"!!
I echo this opinion. BTW..It is the New Testatment...not the New &
Improved Testament. This discussion belongs in a theological
newsgroup...where posters ignorant of the history of the Bible may find
a better understanding of what the original words were intended to
communicate. There isn't anything in any of the many translations of
the Bible that tells us to hate homosexual male country artists who
played an important role in the revitlization of the country music
industry in the late '80s.
ThurberMan
Dan when You hear the the song " You're the Top" you think it is a love song
- but for Porter it was a tongue in cheek song. Let me draw you a picture
of homosexual loving making : Because Baby if I 'm the BOTTOM, you're the
TOP!
So you see his homosexual did effect his muisc and every one who knew him knew
the undercurrent of that song.
Craig
DONDI3
In article <199806031528...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
thurb...@aol.com (ThurberMan) writes:
...and it completely passed you by that there is also a top & bottom in
heterosexual sex? I know little about Cole Porter, but I do know historical
revisionism's outward signs when I see 'em.
Next we'll be talking about the real primary activity of the Gay 90s.
Dondi3
DONDI enterprises. BUY, SELL, TRADE. RARE COINS & PRECIOUS METALS
Member COINNET coindealer network & ANA
Next show: Holiday Inn monthly show, Bloomington, MN 6/14. Hey, if the Dubuque
show was good, they're ALL gonna be good!
GEMZpro
Wonder if Ethel Merman knew about this???
ThurberMan
Dondi3 The man was gay- Top and Botom is far more important in gay sex than
straight - comeon get a grip and if you don't believe me read some book about
him and hear friends who knew him tell you the truth. You are so obtuse it's
disgusting!
Craig
DONDI3
In article <199806050319...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
thurb...@aol.com (ThurberMan) writes:
We're not discussing me, dipshit; We're talking about your ability to tell me
that
a song was written to reflect homosexual activity, when in fact, it is only
your own
opinion of whether it does or doesn't. That's historical revision. There is
nothing in the phrase to suggest one over the other; unless you happen to have
a homosexual
agenda to push.
ThurberMan
Dondi3- as usual you are a fool so i will draw you a picture for the last
time- I have no agenda to push just the truth- ask any gay man and he will
tell you he is a top or a bottom - anal intercourse is what you straight
people think we do all the time any way- The words are tongue in cheek-
double meaning- Now if you don't belive me read some books about the man-
that is where ilearned the story _ i am not trying to push anything- My God
Cole Porter was gay and everyone knew it- let us have at least one person who
was talking to the gay culture and the straight- Oh my the way " dip shit"
such a classy term- get that out of the redneck dictionary?
Craig
Stacy Pleasant
If Randy is gay, I'm glad I have know way of knowing. I'm also glad
that I don't listen to him for his sexuality, but rather, his voice.
Stacy
My Current Favs (6-5)
1. Happy Girl
2. I'm Alright
3. Youre Gone
4. Just To Hear You Say You Love Me
5. Wonderful Tonight
Mary Smolkovich
Let's please put the old thread to rest!
DONDI3
In article <199806052137...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
thurb...@aol.com (ThurberMan) writes:
> Oh my the way " dip shit"
>such a classy term- get that out of the redneck dictionary?
>Craig
Glad you liked it. Since you initiated the name calling and personal insult
thing, I thought the response term was quite appropriate. Obviously, your
homosexual agenda dictates that you either will not or cannot see the point of
my post and I see no reason to continue a "glass half full/glass half empty"
discussion.
My mistake was in not making it clear that I was not addressing you in the
first place. I suspect that with your total lack of humor and your
heterophobic attitude, you probably should just avoid addressing me altogether,
since i doubt that we'll ever have any kind of a cordial conversation anyway.
On the other hand, if you want to continue with your name calling and personal
belittlement on the ng, I guess I can respond with the best of 'em...at least
until I get bored.
Nshvlbrat
STOMP! STOMP!
BASH! BASH!
PUNCH! PUNCH!
We've been tryin' Maggie..but,.just as we think it's been beat to death...some
fool resurrects the darn thing!!!
Come on people...enough's enough!!!!!!
-Brat
"Dogs think they're human...cats KNOW they are"
"A house is not a home without a cat"
Cowboy
Geno wrote:
>In the *New* Testament, IIRC, only Paul ever mentions
>homosexuality. It is stated as his priestly opinion, *not* as a law (as it
>had been in the O.T.)
Paul's "priestly" opinion is God's word—that makes it God's law, as far as
I'm concerned. I'm sick of this discussion. I don't seem to be convincing
anyone of the truth, so what's the point of continuing?
Cowboy
Luvless
ThurberMan wrote:
>
> Dondi3- as usual you are a fool so i will draw you a picture for the last
> time- I have no agenda to push just the truth- ask any gay man and he will
> tell you he is a top or a bottom - anal intercourse is what you straight
> people think we do all the time any way- The words are tongue in cheek-
> double meaning- Now if you don't belive me read some books about the man-
> that is where ilearned the story _ i am not trying to push anything- My God
> Cole Porter was gay and everyone knew it- let us have at least one person who
> such a classy term- get that out of the redneck dictionary?
> Craig
Craig, considering the fact that you're the only faggot (that we know
of) participating in this newsgroup, I would recommend that you leave
your homosexual lustings for Randy Travis out of the conversation. I
doubt seriously if anyone cares to hear about your perverted queer
lifestyle either.
I believe "dip shit" is too classy of a term to describe you. I have a
few other choice words that would be more accurate, but I'll spare
everyone. I'm certain you've heard them before anyway.
-Luvless
Luvless
Nshvlbrat wrote:
>
> STOMP! STOMP!
> BASH! BASH!
> PUNCH! PUNCH!
>
> We've been tryin' Maggie..but,.just as we think it's been beat to death...some
> fool resurrects the darn thing!!!
>
> Come on people...enough's enough!!!!!!
> -Brat
I agree. Now that I've contributed my thoughts, I will not post under
that subject line again. Promise.
-Luvless
Deysew
>I agree. Now that I've contributed my thoughts, I will not post under
>that subject line again. Promise.
>
>-Luvless
Thanks, I for one would really appreciate it. If anyone would like to see
Randy and hear his new single, he will be on the TV show "Vibe".
•JUNE 9, 1998: Randy will be musical guest on "VIBE" television show hosted by
SINBAD. Check local listings for time.
Doris
Doris
ThurberMan
Cowboy I can understand why you feel that Paul's word is the word of God. As
a Catholic I was raised to believe the same thing. But I later studied the
life of Paul , and how certain things were included and excluded from the
Bible. After that , my belief is that the only Godly words in the Bible come
from Jesus, who didn't say a thing about homosexuals. The rest were additions
made by monks, opoes, kings, and fools.
Though I respect your opinion, Paul was a man, not picked by Christ but
who chose to follow Christ. Paul himself harmed other Christian( does that
mean he was doing the work of God?) Paul may be inspired by God but those
aren't God's words. Learn to think on your own and come to your own opinion.
Don't hide behind a book or some else's words to decide how a feel about a
nother groups of people. Remember theere are passages in the Bible that have
been used to opress women, blacks as slaves, and to cause child abuse and
war. Where do Paul's words stand out any stronger than Jesus himself.
Think for yourself Cowboy. If you don't like homosexulas than face that
prejudice, think about why in your gut it bothers you, and then if you still
feel that way and have a better reason than what Paul said I will , and I am
sure others will agree or disagree but will totally respect your feelings and
thoughts as your own.
This Thead IS OVER - LETS ALL MOVE ON!
Craig
ThurberMan
<Craig, considering the fact that you're the only faggot (that we know
<of) participating in this newsgroup, I would recommend that you leave
<your homosexual lustings for Randy Travis out of the conversation. I
<doubt seriously if anyone cares to hear about your perverted queer
<lifestyle either.
<I believe "dip shit" is too classy of a term to describe you. I have a
<few other choice words that would be more accurate, but I'll spare
<everyone. I'm certain you've heard them before anyway.
>-Luvless
Luvless , a love letter , from you? I am am over whlemed. As usual your
mind is always absent from your words, but then again as the only idiot on
the
you wouldn't know how do be proper. The problem with you Luvless is that you
are a bigot and don't want to admit it. You know I am black too ! Why don't
you call me Nigger as well, and then tell me how much I desire some white
thing like Faith Hill. I am soo glad that in the course of your day while
I am studying to take my bar exam, so I can work on social issues, you
are spending you time reminding of why I became a lawyer in the first place:
so that you love nots of prejudice could be stopped at the border of reason,
sanity, and understanding. You are the reason why people still look down on
people like me. Oh any words that you have for me just send them- don't be
afraid- If you believe it write or are you too CHICKEN SHIT for that !
Craig
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This is getting boring; especially the crap from the right wing Jerry Foul-well
fans...why don't they form an Anita Bryant news group for their narrow minded
bashing????
Deysew
I read this on the internet and would like to share it. It is called
"Something to Think About".
There was a little boy with a bad temper. His father gave him a bag of nails
and told him that every time he lost his temper, to hammer a nail in the back
fence.
The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Then it gradually
dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive
those nails into the fence.
Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at all. He told his
father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for
each day that he was able to hold his temper.
The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that all
the nails were gone.
The Father took his son by the hand and led him to the fence. You have done
well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the
same. When you say things in anger, they leave a scar, it won't matter how any
times you say I'm sorry, the wound is still there. A verbal wound is as bad as
a physical one.
Doris
Stacy Pleasant
Doris, the story was great. Hits right at the heart. I hope we can ALL
learn a lesson from that.
Thanks
Stacy
Cowboy
>Cowboy I can understand why you feel that Paul's word is the word
>of God. As a Catholic I was raised to believe the same thing. But I
>later studied the life of Paul , and how certain things were included
>and excluded from the Bible.
How did you study Paul's life? And how does that show you that the Bible was
messed with?
>After that , my belief is that the only Godly words in the Bible come
>from Jesus, who didn't say a thing about homosexuals. The rest
>were additions made by monks, opoes, kings, and fools.
You see, I believe that if the Bible is God's Word (which it is), than God
would not let it become foul. I believe that the book I have today is the
same as it was two thousand years ago. God wants it that way. I may not be
able to prove that the Bible is God's Word, but that's what faith is for.
> Though I respect your opinion, Paul was a man, not picked by
>Christ but who chose to follow Christ.
That's a different subject. I could write a book on God's election, but even
many other Christians disagree with me on that one. Your words also deal
with free will—another deep subject. So I'll just say that God chose Paul,
not the other way around.
>Paul himself harmed other Christian( does that mean he was doing
>the work of God?)
Certainly not. That was before God revealed himself to Paul. Paul himself
claimed to be the most sinful man that ever lived.
>Paul may be inspired by God...
He was.
>...but those aren't God's words.
They are.
>Learn to think on your own and come to your own opinion. Don't
>hide behind a book or some else's words to decide how a feel
>about another groups of people.
Are you kidding? My "opinion" is that the Bible is infallible, and I'm not
hiding behind it. I'm standing on it. The Bible is the foundation of my
life.
>Remember theere are passages in the Bible that have been used
>to opress women, blacks as slaves, and to cause child abuse and
>war.
Please point these passages out to me.
>Where do Paul's words stand out any stronger than Jesus
>himself.
God wrote through Paul, so Paul's words are God's words. They stand out just
as strong as Jesus'. Being a Catholic, I'm sure you know what the Trinity
is.
>Think for yourself Cowboy.
I have. And I've found truth in the Bible.
>If you don't like homosexulas...
I love homosexuals. I hate their lifestyle of sin.
>...than face that prejudice, think about why in your gut it bothers you,
>and then if you still feel that way and have a better reason than what
>Paul said I will , and I am sure others will agree or disagree but will
>totally respect your feelings and thoughts as your own.
I have faced that prejudice, and in my gut, it bothers me because God hates
it, and anything he hates I hate. People already respect my thoughts and
feelings as my own. Your's is the only negative e-mail I've received. I've
also gotten many e-mails from others in the group that are glad that I'm
fighting for the truth.
> This Thead IS OVER - LETS ALL MOVE ON!
>Craig
I agree. But I will continue to post if necessary.
God Bless,
Cowboy
JJ 813
Luvless opines:
>Craig, considering the fact that you're the only faggot (that we know
>of) participating in this newsgroup, I would recommend that you leave
>your homosexual lustings for Randy Travis out of the conversation. I
>doubt seriously if anyone cares to hear about your perverted queer
>lifestyle either.
>
tizzy)...I thought this thread was dead and buried. Luvless, you should take
your narrow-minded bashing to email if you feel the need. This is a COUNTRY
newsgroup, can't we leave it at that? Go post in alt.neo-nazis if you feel the
need to smear gay people.
Oh and for the record, Craig is far from the only gay person who reads and/or
posts here. If he is even gay, I don't know. Most of us don't happen to
declare our sexuality in the newsgroup because it's totally irrelevant to the
topic, just as someone hetero posting how good he had it with his wife last
night would be equally inappropriate.
I'm not naive enough to think I'll change anyone's bigoted attitudes. We all
have the right to our own standards and morals, and I certainly won't fault
someone for standing up for what they believe in. But when you make the attack
personal, and start attacking someone or a group of people, you better believe
I'm going to say something.
--Jenny
mz...@hotmail.com
Deysew
>others in the group that are glad that I'm
>fighting for the truth.
>
>> This Thead IS OVER - LETS ALL MOVE ON!
>>Craig
>
>I agree. But I will continue to post if necessary.
>
>God Bless,
>Cowboy
Please know that I mean you know disrepect Cowboy, but by repeating the
subject line "Randy Travis Homosexual" is it not bending one of the Ten
Commandments? The commandment that says, "Thou shalt not bear false witness
against they neighbour". I am and have been a Randy Travis fan for many years
now. Using his name to continue an augument that has nothing to do with him or
his music is what I don't understand.
Doris
Nujesus
I urge thee to be tolerant of all gays, for my father, who arth in heaven, did
make gays gay. And in my nu kingdom, all of thee will be gay. For god so loved
the world that he made his only daughter, Nu, a lesbian. You can call me Nu if
you want to. This is god's wish.
Nujesus
William Hoye
Doris !
What can I say you said it all "Thou shalt not bear false witness
against they neighbour"
Can we now Put Mr. Randy Travis to bed now and move on!!
Let's Kill this about Randy
gay thing.
Thanks!
Bill
ThurberMan
Hi all I want to read what Luvless sent me in the mail. I rest my case. It
is so full of hate that I am embarrassed to think he is also a county music
fan.
Craig
You do not merit my time or attention. But you know damn good and well
that no one wants to hear your queer talk on the news group. With that
in mind, you can expect people such as myself to reply with harsh words.
So, you accuse me of being a bigot? Why? Because I despise faggots? I
admit that. But one thing I am not, and that is a racist. And I really
don't give a damn if you believe that or not. But why is it that certain
blacks like yourself are always hollering "racism, racism!" every time
you turn around? You seem awful quick to judge someone without knowing
anything about them. I see more reverse racism going on all the time,
and it makes me sick. It's the white race that is gradually becoming the
minority. Mostly because we have enough sense not to have so many damn
kids that we can't afford, and then expect the government to provide
welfare for them. It's the white man that is being discriminated against
these days, just as much as the blacks.
I guess Johnnie Cochran is your hero. You want to become a lawyer just
like your hero, right? That's all we need is another black, racist
lawyer. How do you feel about O.J. the murderer running free? Was that a
victory for all blacks or was that a complete travesty of justice? I've
never seen so many jubilant negroes in all my life as I did when O.J.
was set free. Makes me sick.
No, I will not call you the "N" word or anything else that relates to
your skin color. And by not using other choice words to demoralize you
doesn't hardly make me "chicken shit". It only reflects my superior
intelligence.
Now, go away faggot, and bother someone else.
By the way, don't bother to e-mail me again. I refuse to read any more
of your bullshit. And spend some time learning how to spell, rather than
wasting everybody's time with false accusations.
-Luvless
Craig
ThurberMan
Cowboy like I said I respect your opinion- my post wasn't meant to be negative
but to give you other points to think about. I am sorry if I insulted you
. That wasn't my purpose.
Craig
Cowboy
I would be more than happy to continue this privately via e-mail with
"Thurberman," but as long as he continues to post under this thread, I will
too.
Cowboy
I'm not offended悠'm just writing the truth.
Cowboy
ThurberMan wrote in message
<199806072123...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Glen Quarnstrom
thurb...@aol.com (ThurberMan) wrote:
>Hi all I want to read what Luvless sent me in the mail. I rest my case. It
>is so full of hate that I am embarrassed to think he is also a county music
>fan.
>Craig
Posting private e-mail is pretty low, sir. You don't do your cause
any good by violating netiquette and good manners this way.
--
gl...@cyberhighway.net
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~glenq/
Deysew
>I would be more than happy to continue this privately via e-mail with
>"Thurberman," but as long as he continues to post under this thread, I will
>too.
>
>Cowboy
I will ask you both again WHY? What does your augument have to do with Randy
Travis or Country Music. I happen to have great love and respect for Randy
and CountryMusic to use either to farther a personal augument, I just don't
understand.
Doris
Cowboy
Luvless:
I agree with the point you made in your e-mail to Thurberman, but there are
other ways to get your point across. Bringing racism into the subject was
unnecessary—and discriminating against someone because of their spelling?
Good grief. This newsgroup is for everybody—even those less educated than
yourself.
Cowboy
ThurberMan
I thought what he stated was very low- so please don't preach to me about
manners
Craig
Luvless
Yes Ma'am. I don't know what could have come over me, Ma'am.
-Luvless
Cowboy
Nothing葉hat's why Thurberman and I have both agreed to use e-mail to
continue our discussion.
Cowboy
Deysew wrote in message <199806072339...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Nshvlbrat
>From: thurb...@aol.com wrote :
>Hi all I want to read what Luvless sent me in the mail.
and then proceeded to make a private email public...
Is this ethical???? I may not agree with what Luvless said, but at least he
took it to email. Craig, I realize you were upset over this, but it was no
reason to post it. Are we now all to worry that anything we say in an email,
could be laid out for all to read if the injured party is upset enough? I
think alot of the folks here have said, "let's take it to email" rather than
continue fighting publicly. They at least made the effort to keep it
private..., rather to keep the open wound from festering over the net.
Again, I may not agree with what Luvless said (and I'm sure he doesn't always
agree with me) but at least he made the effort to take the quarrel off the NG
I have to applaud him for that. I for one, have pleaded for this thread to
stop for a long time...alot of us have. Now it's come to this. Can we not
take a clue here, and kill this thread?
ThurberMan
Why is it that you guy are more upset by me printing the letter than the
content? Maybe in your heart you all agree with this guy but unlike him you
don't have the balls or guts to say it- Silent praise?
Craig
Nshvlbrat
Nshvlbrat
>From: thurb...@aol.com (ThurberMan) wrote:
>
>Why is it that you guy are more upset by me printing the letter than the
>content? Maybe in your heart you all agree with this guy but unlike him
>you
> don't have the balls or guts to say it- Silent praise?
>Craig
Not at all, Craig...I just have something against posting someone's private
email, that's all. Apparently, he wanted to keep it private and out of the NG
by emailing you. I just find your tactics unethical. This applies to ANY
subject...not just yours. I'd have been upset if this had happened on any
other thread.
I saw you and Cowboy took it to email...now, if he says something you don't
like, are you going to post it for the whole world to see?
I told you I may not agree with what was in that letter, but the fact that you
posted it in the first place was my point. I should have never been "allowed"
to read it. It apparently was something something that he wanted to say (good
or bad) to you in PRIVATE or he would have posted it himself!
-Brat
MitchHara
Well I have had enough ! And I am the new guy!
First lets end this post. Travis gay or not is a good singer-
* Craig: Give it a rest. I understand you point of view totally. But it
seems to me that you are too bright to allow the narrow minded of some of the
group members to egg you on. They don't get it, will never get and don't want
to get it. We aren't talking about the best and the brightest here- just a
bunch of people who love county music. I agree with your points. I think
they are all valid and food for thought. But save them for a more worthy
audience. You are wasting your good breath on these people.
* Luvless- All I can say is that your post are vuglar and degrading. They
are full of all the trash that I think makes America a lesser country. You
secret bigots who claim that by not saying the word" nigger" you are not a
racist make me sick. It takes more to be a racist then word choice. I am
glad Craig posted your e- mail so that the rest of us know what you really
think. Really vile crap. Get some help - you and the rest of the Klan
members. Come after me now- I am white, rich, and straight and I think men
like you are a scar on this group and the rest of the world.
Lets end this, if Travis is gay then it is his lie. Although after hearing
Luvless and his supporters, I can see why Travis wouldn't come out. Look what
is waiting for him.
Mitch
ThurberMan
>Not at all, Craig...I just have something against posting someone's private
>email, that's all. Apparently, he wanted to keep it private and out of the NG
>by emailing you. I just find your tactics unethical. This applies to ANY
subject...not just yours. I'd have been upset if this had happened on any
other thread.
I saw you and Cowboy took it to email...now, if he says something you don't
like, are you going to post it for the whole world to see?
I told you I may not agree with what was in that letter, but the fact that you
posted it in the first place was my point. I should have never been "allowed"
to read it. It apparently was something something that he wanted to say (good
or bad) to you in PRIVATE or he would have posted it himself!
-Brat
You Know Brat you think that what I did was wrong. That I can deal with .
But the problem is that you are yelling at me more than why I put it on the
ng. I thought it was vuglar and that reason Luvless sent it as a private note
was so that the rest of you wouldn't see how vulgar Luvless can get. You are
defending a privacy issue has a point. But weigh what the letter stated. Do
you think as a lawyer i would violate the privacy of anyone without true
thought. If you really think what he said was vulgar then tell him as well and
leave me the hell alone.
Craig
a
In <199806081327...@ladder01.news.aol.com> mitc...@aol.com
(MitchHara) writes:
>
>Well I have had enough ! And I am the new guy! First lets end this
post. Travis gay or not is a good singer- * Craig: Give it a rest. I
understand you point of view totally. But it seems to me that you
are too bright to allow the narrow minded of some of the group members
to egg you on. They don't get it, will never get and don't want to
get it. We aren't talking about the best and the brightest here- just
a bunch of people who love county music. I agree with your points. I
think they are all valid and food for thought. But save them for a
more worthy audience. You are wasting your good breath on these
people. * Luvless- All I can say is that your post are vuglar and
degrading. They are full of all the trash that I think makes America
a lesser country. You secret bigots who claim that by not saying the
word" nigger" you are not a racist make me sick. It takes more to be
that the rest of us know what you really think. Really vile crap. Get
some help - you and the rest of the Klan members. Come after me
now- I am white, rich, and straight and I think men like you are a
scar on this group and the rest of the world.
>
>Lets end this, if Travis is gay then it is his lie. Although after
hearing Luvless and his supporters, I can see why Travis wouldn't come
out. Look what is waiting for him.
>Mitch
Thanks for your eloquence and courage, Mitch. The Retro Segro Hot New
Country machine is ugly because it encourages people like Luvless to
think their intolerance is acceptable and even cool. However, when you
shine the light on these people, you see their leprosy in living color.
The programming now on TNN is one of the biggest embarrassments in
CBS's history. It's so degrading to the American Dream and so ugly that
it will only take a flashlight shining on CBS to make them retreat in a
hurry.
When CBS retreats from Retro Segro, the whole HNC facade will crumble
of its own sick weight.
This is what I mean when I say that Nashville is driving down a dirt
road to nowhere. They are capturing and conditioning an audience of
head-in-the-sand closet bigots. There's no transition from this phase
into something bigger, better, or kinder.
At the end of the dirt road to nowhere is a cliff...and Thelma and
Louise.
Stella
Glen Quarnstrom
thurb...@aol.com (ThurberMan) wrote:
>Why is it that you guy are more upset by me printing the letter than the
>content? Maybe in your heart you all agree with this guy but unlike him you
> don't have the balls or guts to say it- Silent praise?
Not true. The content of the email was not relevant to the objection.
It's simply bad manners to post e-mail without permission, whether
it's for your position or against it. For what it's worth, the
comments in the letter were uncalled for, but you should have ignored
it, not posted it all over UseNet.
--
gl...@cyberhighway.net
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~glenq/
ThurberMan
I put the e-mail on because of what it said- not to violate Luvless 's
privacy. I seriously believe that you people secretly agree with him. At
least have the balls to state what you really believe instead of hiding
behind this shallow issue of privacy. Come on Brat or Glenq- say how much you
agree with Luvless. I would respect that more than this " It is a privacy
issue1" crap.
Craig
a
In <199806082142...@ladder03.news.aol.com> thurb...@aol.com
Privacy isn't a shallow issue. It's perhaps the most important issue on
the Net, along with free speech. The parallels are that Usenet is like
a roundtable discussion in a public place and e-mail is like a personal
letter.
You can't harrass or stalk somebody on Usenet, but you can slander
them.
You can harrass or stalk somebody through e-mail. You should consider
that a person's e-mail in-box belongs to them, as personal property.
You did wrong to post e-mail on Usenet without permission. If you feel
your wrong was justified by the unique circumstances, that's your
right.
Stella
Jethro
Cowboy <cow...@badsector.com> wrote:
> Paul's "priestly" opinion is God's word—that makes it God's law, as far
as
> I'm concerned.
You're free to believe whatever you want.
> I'm sick of this discussion. I don't seem to be convincing
> anyone of the truth, so what's the point of continuing?
That's right. First you haven't proven it's the truth. And did you think
you could convince anyone? People can't change their sexuality. Anyone
that thinks they can must be bisexual.
You're doing much more harm than good. You're scaring people away from
religion if anything, and turning people off.
DONDI3
In article <199806080157...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, nshv...@aol.com
(Nshvlbrat) writes:
>
>Again, I may not agree with what Luvless said (and I'm sure he doesn't always
>agree with me) but at least he made the effort to take the quarrel off the NG
>
>I have to applaud him for that. I for one, have pleaded for this thread to
>stop for a long time...alot of us have. Now it's come to this. Can we not
>take a clue here, and kill this thread?
>-Brat
I, too, do not agree with what luvless said. But posting mail is a violation
of all that we implicitly agree to by posting here. I guess there is a lawyer
corolary that allows you to break the rules to accomplish your purpose.
This type of thread and anything involving racism is impossible to kill due to
the many folks who have a real problem in this area. Its unfortunate for Randy
Travis that he's being "outted" (truly or falsely) by the thread's title.
Racism & bigotry are
alive and well on both side of these types of discussions and no amount of
rational discussion will have any effect on those who are blinded by racism
(from either side) or those who fluant their lack of ethics.
I doubt that either Luvless or Thurberman won many points with this one.
I, for one, will not respond to this thread in the future, without deleting the
reference to the subject's sexual preference.
Dondi3
DONDI enterprises. BUY, SELL, TRADE. RARE COINS & PRECIOUS METALS
Member COINNET coindealer network & ANA
Next show: Holiday Inn monthly show, Bloomington, MN 6/14. Hey, if the Dubuque
show was good, they're ALL gonna be good!
DONDI3
In article <199806080307...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
thurb...@aol.com (ThurberMan) writes:
>Why is it that you guy are more upset by me printing the letter than the
>content? Maybe in your heart you all agree with this guy but unlike him
>you
> don't have the balls or guts to say it- Silent praise?
>Craig
>
>
The issue is "your" post, not his e-mail. There is usually logical thinking
behind accepted rules and practices (what we know a netiquette) and this is no
exception.
The big problem is your lack of ethics in violating what every Usenet newbie
knows...thou shalt not post e-mail without permission. (indeed, most folks are
familiar with the impropriety of publishing private correspondance in any
media)
You say you're studying for the bar...yet you seem to have little regard for
the law.
The bottom line is this: Why the hell do you, in your wildest fantasies, think
that its a great leap of reason to assume someone with no respect for
netiquette or the law will hold that truth is equally irrelevant? That is why
it is considered poor netiquette in the first place to post e-mail! Readers
have no way to ascertain the veracy of your claim that luvless wrote it. We
*know* that you intended to violate netiquette and we
responded to that. Had luvless posted his letter to you, I'm sure many would
have
also responded to it.
You may someday pass the bar, but if you're gonna ever be a successful trial
lawyer, you're sure gonna need to do better at analyzing other's thought
processes. You'll lose every jury with your tactics.
Glen Quarnstrom
thurb...@aol.com (ThurberMan) wrote:
>I put the e-mail on because of what it said- not to violate Luvless 's
Bull.
>privacy. I seriously believe that you people secretly agree with him. At
>least have the balls to state what you really believe instead of hiding
>behind this shallow issue of privacy. Come on Brat or Glenq- say how much you
>agree with Luvless. I would respect that more than this " It is a privacy
>issue1" crap.
Wrong. There are two issues here. The first issue is the etiquette
of posting private e-mail, which you violated.
The second issue is the contents of the mail, which I found offensive.
However, that does not excuse you making it public in an effort to
rally support for your squabble. On the contrary, it lost you the
high ground in the debate.
--
gl...@cyberhighway.net
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~glenq/
Ted Holder
radio*2...@bigfoot.com wrote:
>
> On 8 Jun 1998 14:19:28 GMT, guyg...@ix.netcom.com(a) wrote:
>
> >
> >At the end of the dirt road to nowhere is a cliff...and Thelma and
> >Louise.
> >
> >Stella
>
>
> -- Geno in Nastyville, Tennisshoe
>
Can I help push?????
JJ 813
>>Why is it that you guy are more upset by me printing the letter than the
>>content? Maybe in your heart you all agree with this guy but unlike him
>>you
>> don't have the balls or guts to say it- Silent praise?
>>Craig
>>
Actually, Craig, I was surprised by the number of people who agreed with you
that Luvless' comments were disgusting. I think your comments that people in
this newsgroup are all bigots or homophobic are uncalled for.
I've listened to country all my life, but still sometimes find myself falling
into that "all country fans are hay-chewing ignorant rednecks" stereotype that
is still so prevalent in the mainstream rock audience. And being a gay woman,
you would think I'd know better to fall prey to stereotypes. ;)
Give people a little more credit around here. I think it was wrong to post a
private email, although I understand your intentions were not malicious. There
will always be the right-wingers and bigots no matter where you go, and those
who are foaming at the mouth and screaming that what they believe is "truth".
But, fortunately, there are a lot more rational people out there who don't let
hatred and predujice color their lives.
I'd personally like to see this thread end and get back to just yakking about
my favorite artists. :)
--Jenny
mz...@hotmail.com
ThurberMan
This my last words on the subject:
A. The issues of privacy have been decided by the law I follow- that of the
Supreme Court- which for those of you who don't know the law- opened up the
guidelines of privacy long ago in order that civil rights violations would not
be hidden by business paers and police reports- please look it up!
B. Second I doubt Dondi3 that your understanding of me as future lawyer or
what skills i should use have any impact. You seem to be as obtuse to what
I say as if you couldn't read. But I don't care. People like you fail to
undetrstand the law on so many levels and me. And i don't tell you how do
your job.
C. I wonder how many of you would be so worried about privacy where your
president is concerned. How many of you support Ken Starr's measures to open
up all places of privacy to discover if Clinton got a blow job.
D. Finally, believe or not I don't like placing e-mail online myself- butI
thought you would be more shocked by the letter than the posting. From now on I
am leaving this ng. I am sick of all you and your obtuse opinions about
county music. I sure many will be happy. But as for me I am sorry that you
have chased me away. But i am sick of fighting you and trying to see things
in a different way. I honestly believe that many of are good people at
heart, but not open minded or welcoming unless people agree with you. Sorry
that will never me me. Plus iam sick of fighting over county music. It is
becoming a waste of time.
Craig
Luvless
MitchHara wrote:
>
> * Luvless- All I can say is that your post are vuglar and degrading. They
> are full of all the trash that I think makes America a lesser country. You
> secret bigots who claim that by not saying the word" nigger" you are not a
> racist make me sick. It takes more to be a racist then word choice. I am
> glad Craig posted your e- mail so that the rest of us know what you really
> think. Really vile crap. Get some help - you and the rest of the Klan
> members. Come after me now- I am white, rich, and straight and I think men
> like you are a scar on this group and the rest of the world.
You have no idea what you're talking about. You've only seen one end of
the conversation between Craig and I. I refuse to stoop to his level and
publicly post his emails to me on this news group. I know some good
people were offended when they read my email that was illegally posted
by Craig, and my sincerest apologies to those I've offended.
However, I offer no apologies to Craig, for I was equally offended by
his personal email to me. So don't be too quick to judge someone without
knowing all the facts.
And you, MitchHara, like Craig, will be remembered as nothing more than
a splinter in my ass as I slide down the bannister of life.
-Luvless