Is Mary Chapin Carpenter Severely Retarded?
a
But there's an interview of her at CDNow that takes the cake.
You can read it at:
http://www.cdnow.com/cgibin/mserver/SID=1161858781/pagename=/RP/
GENRES/cms_genres.html/fid=10481
Here's what she says, in part: "You know, I never thought of myself
as a folk singer. Even when I was playing in clubs in D.C., I never
thought of myself that way. Those [folk singers] always took a
scholarly or academic approach to music, and they often sounded
ethnic. I never did that. I was always a singer-songwriter, and I
think there's a difference between the two. Stylistically,
thematically, you can go a thousand different places as a singer
songwriter, but folk singing to me is more limiting."
Huh? Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie are academic? John Prine, Nanci
Griffith and Townes Van Zandt are ethnic? Joni Mitchell, Kate Wolf
and Tracy Chapman are not singer-songwriters?
Mary Chapin Carpenter has taken a big slam at every folk singer who
ever lived. What kind of crack is she smoking?
Whether or not Mary Chapin considers herself a folk artist, she isn't
even in the same singer-songwriter league as many of folk greats. So
why is she putting herself above them as a singer-writer?
It's strange...because Nashville country music has become more
confining by far than folk music ever was. And MCC will not speak one
word against today's Nashville country. Yet she slams folk as too
confining.
You know what this sounds like to me? BTOs are literally spoon
feeding words into her mouth, to try to get her back in the good
graces of Hot New Country radio. "I'm not a folkie. Don't think I am.
Please play me on country radio!" Maybe Mary Chapin Carpenter has
become a zombie.
Mary Chapin Carpenter makes me sick to my stomach.
I stupidly bought six five of her records. Right now, they're going
in the toilet, to be flushed down into the sewer where they belong.
Stella
Stacy Pleasant
Stella wrote:
>What kind of crack is she smoking?
>
I give up! The same kind you do?
>I stupidly bought six five of her records.
Stupid alright! And I'll bet your IQ is "six five"!
>Right now, they're going
>in the toilet, to be flushed down into the sewer where they belong.
While you're at it, jump in right behind them just to make sure they go
where they belong...you'll fit right in with all the other crap!
Stacy
Donny Williams
questions people ask about him.
Scott
> in the toilet, to be flushed down into the sewer where they belong.
I agree 100%. (Except I never bought any of her crap.) Thanks for
hitting it right on.
elen
Scott wrote:
Stella may be right about radio play too :-)
I've turned on the radio this week out of curiosity to see if "Choices" and
"My Kind Of Woman" is getting airplay.---I haven't heard them yet in three
days.
But they are playing to death the new MCC song. I don't even know the name
of it-most of the the time the DJ's don't tell you anyway. It hasn't
impressed me though, and I've found after many months it's still the same
old new country schlock. I'll give it a few more days. They've played a lot
of Vince Gill oldies and more than a few Patty Loveless tunes---but not
their new one. Go figure.
Elen
Katie Young
<<Stella wrote:
>What kind of crack is she smoking?
>
I give up! The same kind you do?>>
You mean there's more than one kind? They didn't teach us that in school
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TAYandAL
>
>But there's an interview of her at CDNow that takes the cake.
>
>You can read it at:
>
>http://www.cdnow.com/cgibin/mserver/SID=1161858781/pagename=/RP/
>GENRES/cms_genres.html/fid=10481
>
>Here's what she says, in part: "You know, I never thought of myself
>as a folk singer. Even when I was playing in clubs in D.C., I never
>thought of myself that way. Those [folk singers] always took a
>scholarly or academic approach to music, and they often sounded
>ethnic. I never did that. I was always a singer-songwriter, and I
>think there's a difference between the two. Stylistically,
>thematically, you can go a thousand different places as a singer
>songwriter, but folk singing to me is more limiting."
>
>Huh? Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie are academic? John Prine, Nanci
>Griffith and Townes Van Zandt are ethnic? Joni Mitchell, Kate Wolf
>and Tracy Chapman are not singer-songwriters?
>
>Mary Chapin Carpenter has taken a big slam at every folk singer who
>Whether or not Mary Chapin considers herself a folk artist, she isn't
>even in the same singer-songwriter league as many of folk greats. So
>why is she putting herself above them as a singer-writer?
>
>It's strange...because Nashville country music has become more
>confining by far than folk music ever was. And MCC will not speak one
>word against today's Nashville country. Yet she slams folk as too
>confining.
>
>You know what this sounds like to me? BTOs are literally spoon
>feeding words into her mouth, to try to get her back in the good
>graces of Hot New Country radio. "I'm not a folkie. Don't think I am.
>Please play me on country radio!" Maybe Mary Chapin Carpenter has
>become a zombie.
>
>Mary Chapin Carpenter makes me sick to my stomach.
>
>I stupidly bought six five of her records. Right now, they're going
>in the toilet, to be flushed down into the sewer where they belong.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Please, Stell, you outdo yourself in stupidity every single time you post.
JimManheim
quoting MCC...<<Here's what she says, in part: "You know, I never thought of
myself as a folk singer. Even when I was playing in clubs in D.C., I never
thought of myself that way. Those [folk singers] always took a
scholarly or academic approach to music, and they often sounded
ethnic. I never did that. I was always a singer-songwriter, and I
think there's a difference between the two. Stylistically,
thematically, you can go a thousand different places as a singer
songwriter, but folk singing to me is more limiting."
Huh? Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie are academic? >>
Gosh, it's nice to hear that MCC is standing up for country music. She hasn't
done much of that lately. Thanks for pointing out the interview, at least.
As for your examples here, I don't know. "Academic" is certainly a valid word
for Dylan's initial approach to traditional music, and when he gave up that
approach, the folk community pretty much disowned him. As for Woody Guthrie,
you know, he limited his appeal to common folks by hanging out for too long
with contempt-filled leftists like you. Always thought his cousin Jack was his
equal, but you know? He never got the press, because he didn't knock on the
"right" doors.
<< Joni Mitchell, Kate Wolf
and Tracy Chapman are not singer-songwriters? >>
And each of them got beyond folk music in a way comparable to what MCC has
done.
<<It's strange...because Nashville country music has become more
confining by far than folk music ever was. And MCC will not speak one
word against today's Nashville country. Yet she slams folk as too
confining.
You know what this sounds like to me? BTOs are literally spoon
feeding words into her mouth, to try to get her back in the good
graces of Hot New Country radio. "I'm not a folkie. Don't think I am.
Please play me on country radio!" Maybe Mary Chapin Carpenter has
become a zombie.
Mary Chapin Carpenter makes me sick to my stomach. >>
Wow . . . a reaction beyond the usual zombie-like repetition of fictitious
slanders of hardworking artists. Wonder what got to you? Is it that MCC
demonstrated a way for folk and country songwriting to meet? That would bug
you, because it would make the politically correct folkies you champion seem
even more irrelevant than they already are.
<<I stupidly bought six five of her records. Right now, they're going
in the toilet, to be flushed down into the sewer where they belong. >>
I'm sure you'll reconsider that, and listen to them again so that you can come
up with some crazy story about MCC's past, and that will explain everything for
you. You're about on a level with the one-world conspiracy theorists.
Tex
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a
(TAYandAL) writes:
>Please, Stell, you outdo yourself in stupidity every single time you
post.
It's good to be so consistent?
Stella
Scott
>
> Scott, just listen to this one quote of Mary Chapin Carpenter...
>
> "Those folk singers always took a scholarly or academic approach
> to music, and they often sounded ethnic. I never did that."
>
>
> "I never sounded ethnic."
>
> In other words, I'm a white person and I want to sound like one?
>
> That's just unbelievable.
>
> It's musical ethnic-cleansing.
>
> Which is, of course, exactly what you have in Nashville.
>
> But why would Mary Chapin Carpenter want to bow and scrape so bad to Nashville?
>
> Mid-life crisis?
>
> Or foot-in-mouth?
She's reaching for a way to distance herself from folk, in hopes that she
would be accepted by Nashville, like you said. The money must have run
out by now. But she's coming up with bluffs that are very lame.
"Those folk singers always took a scholarly or academic approach to
music" ??? I can't imagine what's so scholarly or academic about Burl
Ives "Eatin' Goober Peas". It's even less so than bug guts on a
windshield.
"Ethnic" can also just mean a non-American background, as in Irish or
Ukrainian folk music. That's also a ludicrous way for her to say she's
not folk. Sounds like she'll do anything to masquerade as country right
now.
Either that, or she has the mentality of a bug.
elen
Country Boy wrote:
> elen <ele...@mediaone.net> wrote in article
> <377A88C9...@mediaone.net>...
> >
> > Stella may be right about radio play too :-)
> > I've turned on the radio this week out of curiosity to see if "Choices"
> and
> > "My Kind Of Woman" is getting airplay.---I haven't heard them yet in
> three
> > days.
> > But they are playing to death the new MCC song. I don't even know the
> name
> > of it-most of the the time the DJ's don't tell you anyway. It hasn't
> > impressed me though, and I've found after many months it's still the same
> > old new country schlock. I'll give it a few more days. They've played a
> lot
> > of Vince Gill oldies and more than a few Patty Loveless tunes---but not
> > their new one. Go figure.
> >
>
> Before you start weaving conspiracy theories again, consider that the MCC
> song has been around a lot longer than either Vince or Jones. Consider
> that MCC has been the Showcase artist on CMT. Consider that Party Doll
> debuted at #4 in the Country album charts. And that MCC traditionally
> sells well in your area. Those facts may have more to do with your radio
> station playing her song than some silly interview on a web page.
Wait *just* a minute--have you had a bug up your ass lately or what ? I'm
glad Fan Fair agreed with you.
When have *I* ever woven a conspiracy theory.---And check the emoticon.
The thrust of my whole comment had very little to do with MCC. I couldn't care
less how often she's played. It was used as an opening to get another comment
in.. * You* know how that works, DON'T YOU ?
So tell me. Why do I hear old Vince Gill and Patty Loveless songs on my country
station, and not their new duet?. Could it by chance have anything to do with
"the traditional sensitive listener"
Elen
Alan Figgatt
quote that she has not said a dozen times before in other interviews. There are
perceived differences between a folk-singer (acoustic only, solo or small band)
and a singer-songwriter (whatever you want to define it to be). Bob Dylan, Nanci
Griffiths, Joni Mitchell all probably consider themselves to be
singer-songwriters.
I assume you haven't read the interview with MCC in the June 1999 issue of
Country Music People, a UK country music magazine? CMP can be found at many
Tower Records or superstores like Barnes & Noble. By Nashville carefully
packaged and sanitized standards, this interview with Douglas McPherson was a
disaster. She was obviously in a bad mood and had a testy time with the
interviewer. Not something you will ever see in most US country music magazines
as they rarely rise above the bubble gum level. What is interesting in the same
magazine, Douglas McPherson also reviews Party Doll (4 stars), but says of MCC:
"One thought though - Mary Chapin is probably the most talented female artist to
emerge from country music in the last decade. Listening to all those tracks it's
hard to believe that she was ever considered "country" in the first place".
Strong statement on hsi part. But, Stella, please space us a new round of
obsessing with MCC in place of Suzy. MCC has always taken her own path, though
perhaps not the one you think she should take; respect that.
Alan Figgatt
a wrote:
>
> I never felt Mary Chapin Carpenter was very bright.
>
> But there's an interview of her at CDNow that takes the cake.
>
> You can read it at:
>
> http://www.cdnow.com/cgibin/mserver/SID=1161858781/pagename=/RP/
> GENRES/cms_genres.html/fid=10481
>
> Here's what she says, in part: "You know, I never thought of myself
> as a folk singer. Even when I was playing in clubs in D.C., I never
> thought of myself that way. Those [folk singers] always took a
> scholarly or academic approach to music, and they often sounded
> ethnic. I never did that. I was always a singer-songwriter, and I
> think there's a difference between the two. Stylistically,
> thematically, you can go a thousand different places as a singer
> songwriter, but folk singing to me is more limiting."
>
> Huh? Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie are academic? John Prine, Nanci
> Griffith and Townes Van Zandt are ethnic? Joni Mitchell, Kate Wolf
> and Tracy Chapman are not singer-songwriters?
>
> Mary Chapin Carpenter has taken a big slam at every folk singer who
> ever lived. What kind of crack is she smoking?
[diatribe snipped]
> Stella
Ted Holder
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>
> Stella wrote:
> >What kind of crack is she smoking?
> >
>
>
>
>
> >in the toilet, to be flushed down into the sewer where they belong.
>
> where they belong...you'll fit right in with all the other crap!
>
> Stacy
>
My - My.....
Ted Holder
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Ted
a
Scott <westsi...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom> wrote:
>I agree 100%. (Except I never bought any of her crap.) Thanks for
>hitting it right on.
Thank you, Scott, for speaking the truth.
Scott, just listen to this one quote of Mary Chapin Carpenter...
"Those folk singers always took a scholarly or academic approach
to music, and they often sounded ethnic. I never did that."
Is she saying what I think she's saying?
"I never sounded ethnic."
In other words, I'm a white person and I want to sound like one?
That's just unbelievable.
It's musical ethnic-cleansing.
Which is, of course, exactly what you have in Nashville.
But why would Mary Chapin Carpenter want to bow and scrape so bad to Nashville?
Mid-life crisis?
Or foot-in-mouth?
Stella
a
<westsi...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom> writes:
>"Ethnic" can also just mean a non-American background, as in Irish or
Ukrainian folk music. That's also a ludicrous way for her to say she's
not folk. Sounds like she'll do anything to masquerade as country
right now.
>
>Either that, or she has the mentality of a bug.
Thanks for helping me understand. Before I listened to Mary Chapin's
songs and liked them some. Now that she's trashed folk and said she's
not folk, they sound lots worst.
To me folk is the best.
Stella
Chapja
grew up on Woody Guthrie and went on to admire Townes Van Zandt and one of her
best friends is Joan Baez.
She was probably just pointing out that she can't be pigeon holed into a
specific genre - Down at the Twist and Shout certainly isn't folk and Stones in
the Road certainly isn't country. And the general country music listener (not
all of you fine musically educated people on this group) probably think of folk
music as a hippie on a log singing peace songs. This is a travesty, but it's
the truth.
A thought or two,
J.
Country Boy
Rastus1913
>as a folk singer. Even when I was playing in clubs in D.C., I never
>scholarly or academic approach to music, and they often sounded
>think there's a difference between the two. Stylistically,
>thematically, you can go a thousand different places as a singer
>songwriter, but folk singing to me is more limiting."
Hmm..... well stylistically and thematically one might say the same about
country music, that is if one wanted to slight that genre of music like she has
done folk music with her comments.
What is "folk music' anyway but the music of the people, the common man as they
say, and what is country music, but the same only it was more colloquial
perhaps in it's origins. Now it is universal and because of that the likes of
this Ivy League grad was welcomed into it.
BTW, Stones in the Road, the song, sounded mighty folky to me.
I think the ONLY limits on any singer-songwriter are their own personal
limitations. AND "thematically" she sticks to the same formula with only the
occassional diversion.
MCC comes across very elitist to me, and judging from the reception of her
music lately she ain't going nowhere with that attitude.
Her music is just plain boring now, Almost Home is the most forgettable record
I have ever heard her do. Even one of the Sony record producers said of it on
the CMT showcase when he heard it originally he thought what can we do to liven
this up?
She is always talking about doing her acoustical tours also, and turns even
upbeat songs into ballads every chance she gets and if that ain't folksy what
is?
If anything is limiting to her music now, it is she herself, because
"thematically" they are all the same tune now, just with different titles.
I used to love her stuff, but she bored me to death with the same ole same ole.
I keep hoping she will get out of the bummer rut and do something exciting and
different again.
I wonder if Judy Collins, Joan Baez, John Gorka and the others already
mentioned knew they were so darn limited and ethnic? What an insult to them!
Country Boy
elen <ele...@mediaone.net> wrote in article
>
> Wait *just* a minute--have you had a bug up your ass lately or what ?
Actually, the bowels have been quite clear lately, but thanks for asking.
:))) It must have been all that Odessa Chuck Wagon Gang bar-be-que.
> So tell me. Why do I hear old Vince Gill and Patty Loveless songs on my
country
> station, and not their new duet?. Could it by chance have anything to do
with
> "the traditional sensitive listener"
> Elen
>
>
Perhaps because they're recognizable hits, and that's what country radio
plays. I bet they play a lot of old Randy Travis and maybe even The Judds
from time to time. That "traditional sensitive" crap doesn't apply to hit
songs. A hit is a hit, no matter who does it. Which is why I still hear
old Dolly on my local radio station every week. Heck, they even play
Elvira every now and then. New music is a different beast.
Julie Anne
Mary Chapin Carpenter is a brilliant artist.
If you're tasteless enough to rid yourself of her CD's, send them here.
I have enough brains to hang onto them and give them the credit they deserve.
-Julie
What the world needs now is babies, guns and hope.
-SHERYL CROW, a.k.a. The Woman
Balecox
specific genre - Down at the Twist and Shout certainly isn't folk and Stones in
the Road certainly isn't country. And the general country music listener (not
all of you fine musically educated people on this group) probably think of folk
music as a hippie on a log singing peace songs. This is a travesty, but it's
Good thoughts chapja. MCC has always said what she thinks and she's always
hated having her music put in a box. She also isn't about to let any record
exec spoonfeed her soundbites.
Patsi
a
(Rastus1913) writes:
>I wonder if Judy Collins, Joan Baez, John Gorka and the others already
>mentioned knew they were so darn limited and ethnic? What an insult to
them!
It really is, and it's not exactly like their music is so popular that
they need Mary Chapin Carpenter's foot banging on their ass.
There's no question folk music, like traditional country music, is
struggling to survive.
Folkies have always it hard. There's this beautiful but pitiful John
Gorka song where he tells about the time he went to Pittsburgh and had
his guitar stolen out of his car.
When you think about folk music, you think about artists like Woody
Guthrie, Pete Seeger and Bob Dylan, and venues like the Bottom Line and
Birchmere. You think about the many great folk festivals, like the one
Suzy will be playing this summer in Philly. Most people don't think of
Philly as a folk town. But the Philly festival is special because it
mixes national acts with talented local acts.
I hope those festivals scratch greedy Mary Chapin Carpenter off their
list for good. I hope folk music fans boo her off the stage.
Stella
a
writes:
>"One thought though - Mary Chapin is probably the most talented female
artist to emerge from country music in the last decade. Listening to
all those tracks it's hard to believe that she was ever considered
"country" in the first place".
In other words, she was too talented to be in country music in the
first place.
That's condescending BS.
Alison Krauss and Laurie Lewis both have a stronger body of work than
MCC, better musicianship, better melodies, better arranging, stronger
feel for tradition and greater appreciation for fellow writers and
artists present and past. And both of them are very country.
But this reviewer probably doesn't even know who they are.
I'm starting to see what a total Nashville hype job Mary Chapin
Carpenter was.
Stella
Matthew Becker
Katie Young <hobb...@aol.comehameha> wrote in message
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> You mean there's more than one kind? They didn't teach us that in school
Ya know, Katie....they don't teach us younguns much at school anymore...back
in my parent's day, they knew all the types of crack ;)
--Matthew
Matthew Becker
>
> Stella
roflmao...heehee. Thanks, Stella, I needed a laugh today :)
--Matthew
Rastus1913
> I assume you haven't read the interview with MCC in the June 1999 issue of
>Country Music People, a UK country music magazine?
Would you care to post that one or do you know if they have it online
somewhere?
You are right about one thing, she says the same things over and over right
down to her catch phrases, it is like she is a stuck record, CMT showcase was a
bore except for the bit about her dogs. However, this is the first time I have
seen her lift herself out of any one genre of music in such a condescending
way. She is entitled to her opinions though, and if she thinks others are
limited because they are categorized under a banner called folk and she isn't
because she is under country, reluctantly, although she does protest that too
in many interviews, when it suits her, then I guess that is her perogative.
If she thinks she can go a thousand different places because she is a
"singer-songwriter" then I wish she would hurry up and set her sites on a new
direction, the ole one has gotten a bit tiresome, except maybe for those of you
just joing her and those who live on her every note.
Dana Carpender
Rastus1913 wrote:
> What is "folk music' anyway but the music of the people, the common man as they
> say,
Which means, at least in one sense, that rap is folk music -- urban black folks.
> and what is country music, but the same only it was more colloquial
> perhaps in it's origins. Now it is universal and because of that the likes of
> this Ivy League grad was welcomed into it.
> BTW, Stones in the Road, the song, sounded mighty folky to me.
Me too.
> Her music is just plain boring now, Almost Home is the most forgettable record
> I have ever heard her do. Even one of the Sony record producers said of it on
> the CMT showcase when he heard it originally he thought what can we do to liven
> this up?
>
> She is always talking about doing her acoustical tours also, and turns even
> upbeat songs into ballads every chance she gets and if that ain't folksy what
> is?
Have to agree with this. Saw her on CMT the other day, doing an acousitc version
of I Feel Lucky, a song I always felt kicked some serious butt. It was downright
dull.
BTW, in the spirit of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, I'm three degrees from MCC -- my
dad and her dad went to school together.
Dana W. Carpender
Author, _How I Gave Up My Low Fat Diet and Lost Forty Pounds!_
Hold the Toast Press
http://www.holdthetoast.com
Dana Carpender
Alan Figgatt wrote:
> Strong statement on hsi part. But, Stella, please space us a new round of
> obsessing with MCC in place of Suzy.
What an appropriate typo! "Space" indeed!
--
Shadowspawn
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> <<Stella wrote:
> >What kind of crack is she smoking?
> >
>
>
> I give up! The same kind you do?>>
>
>
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> "I let my mind wander and it never came back"-Calvin
With all the other crap they teach these days why not?
Alan Figgatt
knew I should have spelled checked!).
However, I suspect Stella has a new obssession. He/She/It picks on the most
peculiar topics: now it's MCC, who has never been 1 of the cookie-cutter artists
seemingly flooding country music these past few years, as one who has sold out.
If MCC has, please explain the last 3 albums which have not probably endeared
her to her label.
Alan Figgatt
Alan Figgatt
Laurie Lewis are. They reviewed all of their albums, as far as I know. CMP tends
to favor "true" country/roots artists and can be a bit anti-folkie or pop in
it's reviews. I'm surprised you don't know the magazine, because it brings an
interesting non-US (ie: not published in Nashville) slant to country music
coverage. I only occasionally buy it at newsstands these days, but it does have
lots of reviews of most US country releases as well as UK, Australian,
Norwegian, European country flavored albums that I would never heard of
otherwise. If you are going to obsess on a music format with all sorts of wild
conspiracy theories, it is best to be complete in your reading 8-).
I'm a MCC fan, but I wouldn't go as far as the reviewer in the magazine did,
in so far as the most talented female artist in the last decade. For pure
singers, Patty Loveless (trad) or Trisha Yearwood (pop flavored) have to be up
there. For the singer songwriter set, Kim Richie or Lucinda Williams are high on
my list, though they have never been accepted by the mainstream as MCC has.
However, I did see MCC in concert a month ago at Wolf Trap and her voice was
far better than I have ever heard it before and that includes concerts at the
old Birchmere. Lots of singers hit their peak in their 40's. I hope her next
album of all new material shows this.
Alan Figgatt
PS: shouldn't we title this thread "Is Stella over obsessing?"
Matthew Becker
> lonely, and all bent over with osteoporosis, she'll look back and see
> that this was where it went wrong. This was where she went from being a
> glamous, talented star to a sad bitter whiny bitch. I hope so.
>
> Stella
Isn't that a little harsh? Okay, so the woman makes bad music. Still, why
downgrade her like that? What has she done (even if she has sucked up to
BTOs...a *ton* of people in this world do this...not just country music
artists)
--Matthew
"Feeble minds discuss other people, average minds discuss events, and great
minds discuss ideas"
a
writes:
> However, I did see MCC in concert a month ago at Wolf Trap and her
voice was far better than I have ever heard it before and that includes
concerts at the old Birchmere. Lots of singers hit their peak in their
40's. I hope her next album of all new material shows this.
Well Wolf Trap and Birchmere are both hallowed venues for folk artists
and fans. That's what I was trying to say about Mary Chapin Carpenter,
that nobody but Scott understands.
It's like a great tradition of folk music has fallen on hard times and
is almost dead. All that's left is this little square monument out in
the middle of a weedy field. Nobody pays attention to it anymore.
Except Mary Chapin. And she walks across the field, squats down, and
takes a dump on it.
Why?
There's not many folk fans left, but we still care about our music.
Lots of us once liked Mary Chapin. But now, why would any folk fan ever
want to hear her music again? Why would any folk festival or venue ever
want to invite her again?
That was prime exposure CDNow gave her, home page billing on a site
with almost 4 million unique viewers per month. That's twice as many
people as the Wall Street Journal gets in print. CDNow gave Lucinda
Williams the same space. But Lucinda used hers to bash BTOs, talk about
quality music and speak up for artists like Steve Lorbert. Then, Mary
Chapin uses her space to relieve herself of excrement that must have
been building up for years. What she said can never be retracted,
because it rings so true. All those years she was taking folk fans'
money, she actually despised folk music. That's the truth she spewed
out of her heart.
James Michael Randorff
title of this thread to "Is Stella Severely Retarded?" ;)
Later,
~~ James Michael Randorff (jran...@aol.com)
~~ http://hometown.aol.com/jrandorff/index.html
Stress (n, syn. 'strain'): The confusion caused when the mind must resist the
urge to CHOKE THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF SOMEONE THAT REALLY DESERVES I