Most annoying voice in country
Dice
as her acapella rendition of Sweet Dreams. She sometimes has the habit of
dragging it out, simply because she can.
Dice.
Brad <b_bra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It has to be Reba. She makes my skin crawl. Am I the only one that gets
> irritated by her singing. She's the country equivalent of Michael Bolton
(of
> course, he had that Hercules song which was nice).
>
> Brad
>
>
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"Brad" <b_bra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It has to be Reba. She makes my skin crawl. Am I the only one that gets
> irritated by her singing. She's the country equivalent of Michael Bolton
(of
> course, he had that Hercules song which was nice).
>
> Brad
>
>
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sides on this..as likelyon any singer..they can't please everyone...my
opinion anyway...it is worth nothing but it is so wasy to post it here..lol
Leemur
Brad <b_bra...@hotmail.com> wrote
> It has to be Reba. She makes my skin crawl. Am I the only one that gets
> irritated by her singing. She's the country equivalent of Michael Bolton
(of
> course, he had that Hercules song which was nice).
My vote is for Mark Wills.
Leemur
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the Mariah Carey of country. I have taken to calling her Reba "Shut the F**k
up " Macintire ( I know, I know, I have no idea how to spell it).
Brad <b_bra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It has to be Reba. She makes my skin crawl. Am I the only one that gets
> irritated by her singing. She's the country equivalent of Michael Bolton
(of
> course, he had that Hercules song which was nice).
>
> Brad
>
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more like she's showing off instead of singing. Too many trills - just like
Mariah Carey.
Sandra Denise <lyco...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Reba as the country version of Mariah Carey??? I think there are a few who
> could be considered that long before Reba should.....
>
> <3 Sandy
> Lyco...@aol.com
>
> "Hey Darlin, if you don't wanna hear how the waters parted...
> Then don't get me started..."
> ~ Rhett Akins
Constantine the Great
very country. All the little inflections that she does when she's changing
keys is everything I think country is. It doesn't make my skin crawl. It
gives me goosebumps!
Sandra Denise
edd...@my-deja.com
"Constantine the Great" <caf...@is6.nyu.edu> wrote:
> I disagree. I think Reba's voice embodies country. It's very folksy
and
> very country. All the little inflections that she does when she's
changing
> keys is everything I think country is. It doesn't make my skin
crawl. It
> gives me goosebumps!
Reba to have the best voice in country music. She can sing the
wonderful ballads or the upbeat stuff and she does it with that great
country accent. And oh what a great live performer.
Prnzofthvs
> She oversings everything. She's got a great voice, but to me, she sounds
>more like she's showing off instead of singing. Too many trills - just like
>Mariah Carey.
Hmm...taking this to its logical conclusion, No athlete would ever break a
record again, for fear of showing off with his/her talent; top speeds in NASCAR
would stagnate; in fact, nothing would ever get better, because we sure
wouldn't want to be accused of using our God-given abilities to be "better"
than someone else - what a terrible thing to do!
Steve
"You got to stand for somethin', or you'll fall for anything."
Aaron Tippin
Tim
Prnzofthvs wrote:
> Zino3 wrote, about Reba:
>
> > She oversings everything. She's got a great voice, but to me, she sounds
> >more like she's showing off instead of singing. Too many trills - just like
> >Mariah Carey.
>
> Hmm...taking this to its logical conclusion, No athlete would ever break a
> record again,
If a outfielder throws a ball from left field over the roof into the parking
is showing off. It isn't helping the cause of the team, even though they could
have set the record for longest thrown ball.
Music is a team sport, not how fast, how loud, how etc.. But what works
together. A vocalist showing off isn't always working with in the context of
the music and when that is the case I rather hear any "bad" singer that
at least is honoring the song they are singing.
tim
Balecox
song and loved her performance....
Patsi
Blue Guitar
favorites are from the 80s cause well 80s Country is just my favorite
type of music. I also love the Judds, KT Oslin, Tanya Tucker, and many
other 80s superstars. I think Reba's best LP was "The Last One To Know"
from 1987! It was such a diverse themed album from songs ranging from
Mexicans who dreamed of crossing the US boarder "Just Across the Rio
Grande", Domestic abuse "The Stairs", Child sorrow over divorce "What
Are You Gonna Do About Me"...the LP is just awesome! I really miss the
80s!
Rayetteq
KLReach
can't really say why, but something about it just *bothers* me!
Licia
Robinjoy25
mirror treatment to convince some people to go googoo for her---NOT FOR ME.
Iris's voice is like the sound of finger nails scrapping against the
blackboard.
Robin
Debbie Caudill
Mcgraw....sounds like a dog howling at the moon! LOL
Reba...@webtv.net
Reba...@webtv.net
Maggie Smolkovich
being mentioned? Of course, the voice that annoys me the most is
Wynona's.
And Ricochet. And Lonestar. And Faith.
And Tammy Cochran already is causing my radio to suddenly vibrate with
her
"Martina" over the top lung power. They sing in all CAPS.....LOL.
Maggie
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>
> Man!! AND YOU CONSIDER YOURSELVES COUNTRY FANS??
>
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You consider yourself a Usenet poster?
Scott
>
> Iris's voice is like the sound of finger nails scrapping against the
> blackboard.
Man, I can't stand her either.
Christopher John
>
Oh, please do us all a favor and put your computer back in the box and send it
to the company you bought it from.
CJ
"None of us knows, and this makes it a mystery, if life is a comedy then why
all the tragedy?"
-Chris Rice- (Big Enough)
wyon
Debbie Caudill <dcau...@isoc.net> wrote in message
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> Shania Twain and yes, I'M gonna be brave and say it.....Tim
> Mcgraw....sounds like a dog howling at the moon! LOL
>
I am totally with you there. Shania Twain, Tim McGraw, and, sorry, but Garth
Brooks.
Stacy Pleasant
honestly can't think of any. Granted, there are country artists whose sound
I do not prefer, but their voices do not 'annoy' me. Outside of country, I
do cringe while listening to opera music (particularly females) and Mariah
Carey's vocals annoy me only when she comes in and out of falsetto with
every other word....which as I think about it is just about every song.
--
Stacy Pleasant
"Choose to chance the rapids and dare to dance the tides"
wyon wrote in message ...
Str8FanDeb
Carey's vocals annoy me only when she comes in and out of falsetto with
every other word....which as I think a >>
Yes, Mariah Carey is the Queen of Wails, that's for sure. Totally uncalled for
carrying out every note and word to those proportions over and over throughout
her songs.
KevinJCoyne
Definitely, though she sounds restrained next to her wannabe Christina
Aguilera.
wyon
Str8FanDeb <str8f...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> << articularly females) and Mariah
> Carey's vocals annoy me only when she comes in and out of falsetto with
> every other word....which as I think a >>
>
> Yes, Mariah Carey is the Queen of Wails, that's for sure. Totally uncalled
for
> carrying out every note and word to those proportions over and over
throughout
> her songs.
>
>
done some really good cover tunes, and is one of the most talented vocalists
around. But, I don't care for *all* her material. As I said before, I'd
definitly pick her over other pop singers such as Shania Twain or Faith
Hill. Especially in looks.
Dean Eaton
her, I find listening to Emmylou Harris is a true trial these days. Sorry,
she is a great woman and a champion of traditional country and has done a
great deal for the music, but I just can't listen to her anymore. But
Emmy - I still own BALLAD OF SALLY ROSE, BLUE KENTUCKY GIRL and a bunch of
others...
And I won't even discuss Steve Earle...
Dean
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ALLTM
I just want to know who told these people they could sing?
Aaron Tippon
Tim McGraw
John Michael Montgomery
Mark Miller of Sawyer Brown
and many more......
Jerry L
recorded music and concert tickets.
It is kind of like Pamela Anderson Lee and acting. She can't do
it worth a dang. But a lot of people like to watch her try.
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ALLTM <al...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I dont know about John M. Montgomery, but as to the others,
Aaron Tippon = he happened to be very lucky in releasing his first single at
the right time and right place. "You've got to Stand for Something" was
released during that "Gulf War" and he had all sorts of flags flying and
everything in the video.
Tim McGraw= His father was a semi-famous baseball player with money to
burn.
Mark Miller= He and Sawyer Brown won Ed McMahon's talent contest.
People have to stand up and realize, it doesn't matter if you can sing or
play or not. --- Hire the right image consultant and PR people and you are
on your way. Look at Shania Twain, she's not one that "can sing", except in
some sultry voice. But that's not what made her famous.
> and many more......
cindi smith
Tim
ALLTM wrote:
> Aaron Tippin
Like many act a label release one-off single, it when top 10 and got
good reaction. So an album came out which then did even better.
Easy uh? Lots of singles got release and sunk, some folks get reaction
for every the reason.
>
> Tim McGraw
Same as above, except the single only went top 50. Captiol still
got took a change. Being a son of a baseball player isn't enough
for a label to risk a deal. Showing you can get good response from
radio and the press is.
>
> John Michael Montgomery
Some guy from Atlantic saw him and liked him.
>
> Mark Miller of Sawyer Brown
Won Star Search... Sawyer Brown has the contract, not Mark Miller.
Any others you wish to rag on?
Renee' Sweeney
>
> >Yes, Mariah Carey is the Queen of Wails, that's for sure. Totally uncalled
> >for
> >carrying out every note and word to those proportions over and over
> >throughout
> >her songs.
>
> Aguilera.
ROFLMAO...
wyon
Tim <ring...@berbee.com> wrote in message
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You are right really. Same goes for (anybody remember?) Marty Brown. Of
course he couldn't carry a tune in a bucket. But, (I won't mention names) a
record company exec saw him and thought he was the next Hank Williams. This
is one act they couldn't sell to the public for some reason. Toward the end,
he was driving to Walmarts across the country trying to promote his new CD,
but could hardlt give it away. It might seem difficult for the general
public to understand, but very few music execs actually know anything at all
about music, much less country music.
Balecox
about music, much less country music.<<<
I agree.
Patsi
greasemonkey
right material will make anyone sound good. It's those who try to sing the
wrong stuff who come off sounding bad. Most people here consider John Prine
a great, but we don't hear him singing Alabama - no more than we would hear
Bob Dylan singing "Friends In Low Places"!
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Clark Reid <clar...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> I am not Mark Millers biggest fan by a long shot. But I can't deny the man
> has a wonderful voice from what I have heard.
>
> Clark Reid
> www.clarkreid.cjb.net
>
>
>
> "ALLTM" <al...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20000518082959...@ng-cp1.aol.com...
> > There are a few people I wonder about, I don't want the actual story
> behind it,
> > I just want to know who told these people they could sing?
> >
> > Aaron Tippon
> > Tim McGraw
> > John Michael Montgomery
> > Mark Miller of Sawyer Brown
> > and many more......
>
>
>
Clark Reid
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wyon <m...@usaNOSPAM.com> wrote in article
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>
>
> Tim McGraw= His father was a semi-famous baseball player with money to
> burn.
>
Not true. Tug abandoned Tim and his mother. He was a deadbeat dad. And
when Tug played baseball, the salaries were not anywhere near what they are
now. Tim's mom was an unwed teenage mother who later married a truck
driver who beat her. If only the story was as nice and pretty as you seem
to think.
> People have to stand up and realize, it doesn't matter if you can sing or
> play or not. --- Hire the right image consultant and PR people and you
are
> on your way. Look at Shania Twain, she's not one that "can sing", except
in
> some sultry voice. But that's not what made her famous.
> > and many more......
>
You're right. What made her famous is her music communicated to millions
of fans. It may not be in perfect pitch, and it may not suit your personal
taste. But no one paid anyone to buy those 20 million copies of Come On
Over.
If all it took was image consultants and PR people, there would be many
more stars than there are. But yes, it's all subjective. There are no
tests to pass, and there are no qualifications one must possess. Which is
why it's so damned frustrating to people like you.
MykeCol
Debbie C. from NJ
it
to the company you bought it from.
CJ >>
yea, kmart takes those $99 blue light web tv specials back, they have that
money back guarantee
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Tim
>
> but could hardlt give it away. It might seem difficult for the general
> public to understand, but very few music execs actually know anything at all
> about music, much less country music.
Well more and more it is a business only, which means they money
people are more and more removed from the product. This is
a problem in my sector of work as well.
But still they get lucky. They sign a heck of a lot people, some of
them never even put an album out (Tim O'Brien is a famous
case of this). Bet on a 100 horses to win, 1 or 2 of them are bound
to at least show.
tim
Reba...@webtv.net
Ben
Country Boy wrote:
> wyon <m...@usaNOSPAM.com> wrote in article
> <VZVU4.10040$4u3....@news2.atl>...
> >
> >
> > Tim McGraw= His father was a semi-famous baseball player with money to
> > burn.
> >
>
> Not true. Tug abandoned Tim and his mother. He was a deadbeat dad. And
> when Tug played baseball, the salaries were not anywhere near what they are
> now. Tim's mom was an unwed teenage mother who later married a truck
> driver who beat her. If only the story was as nice and pretty as you seem
> to think.
However, this doesn't change the fact that his father was a famous baseball
player. babe Ruth made jack compared to today - but that doesn't make him any
less famous.
>
>
> > People have to stand up and realize, it doesn't matter if you can sing or
> > play or not. --- Hire the right image consultant and PR people and you
> are
> > on your way. Look at Shania Twain, she's not one that "can sing", except
> in
> > some sultry voice. But that's not what made her famous.
> > > and many more......
> >
>
> You're right. What made her famous is her music communicated to millions
> of fans. It may not be in perfect pitch, and it may not suit your personal
> taste. But no one paid anyone to buy those 20 million copies of Come On
> Over.
No, but her voice didn't either. n Sync sold 2 million copies of an album in a
week. Does that make them talented? No.
>
>
> If all it took was image consultants and PR people, there would be many
> more stars than there are. But yes, it's all subjective. There are no
> tests to pass, and there are no qualifications one must possess. Which is
> why it's so damned frustrating to people like you.
>
There are, quite obviosuly no qualifications to be a pop star. Well, other
than having a pretty face. The talented musician/singer/songwriter is a fast
dying breed.
Clark Reid
Clark Reid
www.clarkreid.cjb.net
<Reba...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Well atleast Reba doesn't have to dress like a skank to sell records nor
cross over to pop.
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Debbie C. from NJ
KevinJCoyne
>
>I like Reba, but your point is off. Three words "The Red Dress".
>
>Clark Reid
>www.clarkreid.cjb.net
>
RebaLuver's memory also blocks out the mid-90's, when Reba was widely
criticized for 'going pop.' Am I the only one who remembers the #2 Dance hit
she had with her cover of "You Keep Me Hangin' On?" She could never get the
twang out of her voice, but the arrangements on "Read My Mind" and "Starting
Over" were as pop as anything on country radio today.
Country Boy
Ben <nos...@ecxelline.com> wrote in article
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>
>
> However, this doesn't change the fact that his father was a famous
baseball
> player. babe Ruth made jack compared to today - but that doesn't make
him any
> less famous.
Tug McGraw was not very famous. As evidenced by the fact that he isn't in
the Hall of Fame.
And the original poster was saying that Tug bankrolled Tim's music career.
Which is not true. Tug barely knew Tim until Tim became famous.
joeda
wrote:
> I like Reba, but your point is off. Three words "The Red Dress".
>
> Clark Reid
> www.clarkreid.cjb.net
to say is "The Red Dress" and I'm sure almost everyone here knows
EXACTLY what you're referring to! It was definately a memorable
moment.
> <Reba...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Well atleast Reba doesn't have to dress like a skank to sell records nor
> cross over to pop.
>
>
>
>
>
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as bad but it was there, she was only like 14 I think. every time I hear her
sing I keep wanting her to clear her throat.
Clark Reid
as it gets. I can't find that annoying :)
Clark Reid
www.clarkreid.cjb.net
"Debbie C. from NJ" <dcham...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Prnzofthvs
>as it gets. I can't find that annoying :)
>
>Clark Reid
You got it! That husky, whiskey-voiced style of hers is pure sex appeal!
Steve
"You got to stand for somethin', or you'll fall for anything."
Aaron Tippin
Stacy Pleasant
>The event cerrtainly showed her as a performer with outstanding talents.
lol...ironically, after I quit staring, I realized that the performance was
actually one of Reba's better award show performances to date. She and
Linda were absolutely incredible.
Stacy Pleasant
"It's not living if you stand outside the fire"
Balecox
I think Tanya is one of the best stylists in any form of music...and I stand in
good company there...Tammy Wynette once told me she thought the same...
Patsi
Balecox
Reba!"
P.
Debbie C. from NJ
From a male perspective, well mine anyways, Tanya's voice is about as sexy
as it gets. I can't find that annoying :)
>>
Okay Clark, I can understand that I guess. Is that like the "I just woke up out
of bed and feeling lusty" kinda horse sound Faith is trying so hard to
broadcast on "Breathe" kinda voice?
March2875
excellent entertainer.
Balecox
P.
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pics of him at willienelson.com of his current tour, and he's looking a
bit - well - Haggard!
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> I see you don't know what the post was about.
>
> No one slighted Willie's talent, maybe you should re-read what was said.
>
> Clark Reid
> www.clarkreid.cjb.net
>
>
>
> "TradeR" <tra...@nospamx.traderz.org> wrote in message
> news:jn9his0a6fu1b7s0o...@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 22 May 2000 13:23:39 +1200, "Clark Reid"
> > <clar...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> > >Willie wasn't ugly in his younger days, but he's certainly developed a
> lot
> > >of "character" of the years. :)
> > >
> > >Clark Reid
> > >www.clarkreid.cjb.net
> > >
> > >
> > >"Strait409" <stra...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >news:20000521172222...@ng-fd1.aol.com...
> > >> >Ah for the good old days when
> > >> >talented ugly people had a chance at sucess!
> > >>
> > >> Like Willie Nelson? :-)
> > >
> >
> > I see a few people just don't know what *real* country music is. Not a
> > surprise. FWIW, Nelson and Wagoner offered (and still do) a hell of a
> > lot more to the genre than these studio creations which are all too
> > common today. Imagine if the likes of Shania and Faith had existed in
> > the "good old days" ...
> >
>
>
Anglsunday
>I see a few people just don't know what *real* country music is. Not a
>surprise. FWIW, Nelson and Wagoner offered (and still do) a hell of a
>lot more to the genre than these studio creations which are all too
>common today. Imagine if the likes of Shania and Faith had existed in
>the "good old days" ...
>
>
singing. and I never said anything about porter's singing either. I like them
both, and no one who knows me would dare insinuate I don't know what "real
country music" or recognize the greats of the genre. but give me a break,
porter is not exactly one likely to grace the cover of GQ magazine. and the
thought of a Porter Playgirl spread gives me nightmares. LOL
angl
>
>
>
>
Coop
his hip, right.
Coop
elen wrote:
> Balecox wrote:
>
> > >>> I have to say that I had never heard of Tug McGraw until I heard of
> > him in relation to Tim McGraw.<<<
> >
> > Same here, J.
> >
> > Patsi
>
> Tug was a journeyman ball player who had a couple of good years as a
> relief pitcher for the Mets some twenty odd years ago. During those years
> the New York sports press and T.V. commentators made a bigger deal out of
> him than was warranted. It's not surprising that outside of New York not
> many have heard of him. Famous he was not.
>
> Elen
elen
Coop wrote:
> I thought he played for the Phillies? The guy that used to bounce his mit on
> his hip, right.
>
> Coop
Yes, that's him. After the Mets he played for the Phillies .Out of curiosity I
looked up his stats. Actually, journeyman probably isn't the right word as he
only played for two teams in a 19 yr. career. He does get points for longevity.
But outside of a few good seasons , he was pretty much an average pitcher. In
19 years he won 96 games and lost 92., with 180 career saves, and a 3.14 E.R.A.
He did have style and flair ,though, and for the couple of good years in New York
('71 - '73) he was the toast of the town. I remember his reputation also carried
over onto the Phillies for a few years. He was known as a character.
Elen
tim
Coop wrote:
> I thought he played for the Phillies?
He did, and the Mets.... that was it. For his time he was a very good
relief picther, but not great. He only had a few years in the real open
free agency market so I am not sure how "rich" he every got...
Check out his stats:
http://cnnsi.com/baseball/mlb/all_time_stats/players/m/1821/index.html
ALLTM
>recorded music and concert tickets.
>
>It is kind of like Pamela Anderson Lee and acting. She can't do
>it worth a dang. But a lot of people like to watch her try.
>
OK Point taken, but...... Originally I had mention Aaron Tippon, Mark Miller,
John Michael, etc..... You can't compare a singer with a bad voice, to a bad
actress who is hot. It's apples and oranges. Still my initial question was
also, "Who in the world told the above listed people that they could sing?"
Who is that deaf? I guess every profession has its people that rise to the top
without really having much to offer. I just regret that country music has so
many of those people.
But I see where you were going....
March2875
Christopher John
>Miller,
>John Michael, etc..... You can't compare a singer with a bad voice, to a bad
>actress who is hot. It's apples and oranges. Still my initial question was
>also, "Who in the world told the above listed people that they could sing?"
>Who is that deaf? I guess every profession has its people that rise to the
>top
>without really having much to offer. I just regret that country music has so
>many of those people.
>
>But I see where you were going....
>
I understand your feelings there, but I think you are totally mising up your
thoughts. What you seem to try to say is "Who told them they had nice voices?"
What you said was "Who told them they can sing?" Now, the problem with what
you said is that they can sing, I've heard them and they sing and do it well,
better than most people in the world. Now, it is your opinion that their
voices are horrible, which is your opinion. But, unless you are an expert, you
should stick to statements of opinion. And the statement "It is my opinion
that they can not sing" is still wrong because what someone can or can not do
is not up for opinoin, how well they do it is. So, stick with what you know
and you won't sound so pompous or ignorant.
CJ
"None of us knows, and this makes it a mystery, if life is a comedy then why
all the tragedy?"
-Chris Rice- (Big Enough)
Balecox
Being able to entertain, for one thing....P.
biG-DADDY
biG-DADDY
ALLTM
>
I know many people who love Sawyer Brown. When I ask them why, they all have
the same answer, "I like to watch him dance." They even admit that his voice
is horrible, and they like him. He's made a career of bad dancing. Hey,
whatever works, he's got more money than I do.
ALLTM
So does your grammar!!
tim
ALLTM wrote:
> >Mark Miller is an AWESOME singer He wouldn't have 17 CD's if he wasn't.
> >
>
> I know many people who love Sawyer Brown. When I ask them why, they all have
> the same answer, "I like to watch him dance." They even admit that his voice
> is horrible, and they like him.
I have yet to meet somebody who called his voice "horrible".
Most don't consider him "AWESOME" either.
When they write a good song, Mark does more to help it out with
his voice than harm which more than some folks do with better vocal
ability. Knowing how to use your voice is better than just raw talent.
(Kenny Rogers is a prime example of this).
tim
Jacquilynne Schlesier
>
> I have yet to meet somebody who called his voice "horrible".
> Most don't consider him "AWESOME" either.
>
> When they write a good song, Mark does more to help it out with
> his voice than harm which more than some folks do with better vocal
> ability. Knowing how to use your voice is better than just raw talent.
> (Kenny Rogers is a prime example of this).
>
effective use of what he has. The things I like about Sawyer Brown are
mostly their song choice.
And Mark Miller's dancing has nothing to do with it. I don't dislike it
(although it is a little strange) but I was a fan of Sawyer Brown long
before I'd ever seen Mark Miller - dancing or otherwise.
J.
--
Jacquilynne Schlesier cs95...@ariel.cs.yorku.ca
http://www.geocities.com/jacquilynne/
Now including all the boring, gory details of my life!
Christopher John
>I know many people who love Sawyer Brown. When I ask them why, they all have
>the same answer, "I like to watch him dance." They even admit that his voice
>whatever works, he's got more money than I do.
Actually, I think Mark Miller's voice is awesome. I love his sound and he
knows how to work it for the good of the song.
ALLTM
>voices are horrible, which is your opinion. But, unless you are an expert,
>you
>should stick to statements of opinion. And the statement "It is my opinion
>that they can not sing" is still wrong because what someone can or can not do
>is not up for opinoin, how well they do it is. So, stick with what you know
>and you won't sound so pompous or ignorant.
>CJ
The last time I heard words so literally interpreted, I was in court. My
statement of opinion that they cannot sing is very true. It could infact
depend on my definition of singing. President Clinton taught us that everyone
can have their own definition of anything.
As for me being an expert, you're right. I am not, although I don't know who
would be an "expert" in this example. As for sounding pompous and
ignorant.....I think you have confused that with sarcastic and witty.
I think you and I agree on many things, we just disagree about certain artists.
I can handle that. However, if I want an example of ignorance, I must look no
further than your sentence structure.
Matt
ALLTM
>his voice than harm which more than some folks do with better vocal
>ability. Knowing how to use your voice is better than just raw talent.
>(Kenny Rogers is a prime example of this).
>
Tim,
I couldn't agree more.
Matt
March2875
instructor he said Mark Miller has an excellent voice.
March2875
songs and their clean lyrics. Mark may lack some vocal range but that is all he
lacks.
Scott
>
> >yes your lists sucks!!
>
> So does your grammar!!
And also his HTML tag!
tim
March2875 wrote:
> Well I was talking to a professor at the college I attend who was the voice
> instructor he said Mark Miller has an excellent voice.
Well he has the scratch/edge sound a bit. Not much he can do, he has the
same aspect when he talks. It's not that big of a deal, but I guess
some folks hear it and can't get past it. That's a shame, cause he does
have some really nice peformances.
tim
Ray Zuniga
Balecox <bal...@aol.com> wrote:
>There is a lot more to making it as a singer than just having a good voice.
>Being able to entertain, for one thing....P.
I tend to agree, especially these days.
On most days, a good voice together with a good song are all I need
to be entertained. One of the best concerts I ever saw was Wilie
Nelson standing in the center of the stage for three hours singing
hit after hit at a county fair. The start of the show had been
delayed for a couple of hours because of severe storms and he
didn't stop playing until after midnight.
ALLTM
I can handle that. I also appreciate the upbeat music and stage presence.
Matt
March2875
Christopher John
>statement of opinion that they cannot sing is very true. It could infact
>depend on my definition of singing. President Clinton taught us that
>everyone
>can have their own definition of anything.
>
Well, I'm no lawyer. I'm just sick of people stating facts as opinions.
Opinions are one thing, but just saying the word opinion in front of something
doesn't make it that. It's justa pet peeve, I apologize for my anality (it's
a word now!) As for my sentence structure, I'll quote Eric Heatherly "I don't
make the rules, I just break 'em" ;)
ALLTM
>sarcastic and witty.
>>
>>
>probably warn't neither.
>
>
>
>
>
Oh please, yet another person interjecting with their own sparkling lack of
contribution.
Uggh!
Clark Reid
I think this whole subject has been given a thorough workout but, as always
I'll add my 5 cents worth LOL.
The ability to sing can be judged very easily and is not open to "opinion".
If someone can stay on pitch and keep the phrasing in sync with the song
timing then they can sing. FACT.
Whether or not what they are then doing is pleasant to individual ears is
opinion. It doesn't matter what technical argument you apply if someone
doesn't like the sound of something, they simply don't.
So it's pointless for anyone to say that someone who maintains pitch and
timing can't sing. that's not an opinion, in that situation it would be an
incorrect determination.
In Millers case, he can sing, but he doesn't have huge range. He does
however, have an extremely "toneful" voice which covers most ends of the
spectrum he is singing in. Most would call that a full-voice. Whitley had a
similar such voice. not huge range, but fantastic dexterity within that
range and so much tone he just makes most listeners melt. Of course, Millar
is no Whitley, but he can sing. personally I like his voice, I respect that
some may not. I don't respect the "opinion" that he cannot sing (or when
this is leveled at others such as Shania, Faith etc in here even though I
don't care for them) because they can sing. That can't be an opinion. That
some are better than others cannot be opinion either. That some are enjoyed
more than others can individually be opinion.. Mark Chesnutt, a wonderful
singer and one of my favorites is no range master, yet his powerful toneful
voice make him a firm favorite in this house. No one would say he can't
sing.
This is a hot subject for me, as I consider myself more of an entertainer
than any great vocalist. In the course of a show (We still have to 4 45
minutes sets here a night) I will not hit every single note with pitch
perfect accuracy. I am fortunate to have a fairly wide spectrum voice and so
many consider it somewhat toneful. I do not however have extremes of range,
but can sing most things. I am no perfect singer, but, I can get a crowd on
side, I can get them partying, I make them laugh and I'll sing well enough
so that the crowd doesn't walk out. There is a another singer locally with
similar profile (Who shall remain nameless) who sings with perfect pitch,
extreme range, and a look of complete boredom. This also flows onto the
crowd. I am not anywhere the singer that he is, but because I can entertain
better than him I am much busier.
Being able to sing and entertain a crowd is something that can be stated as
fact. Whether or not we individually enjoy that, is opinion.
Just my ramble.
Clark Reid
www.clarkreid.cjb.net
"Rockabi101" <rocka...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000525185044...@ng-fj1.aol.com...
Balecox
however, a real entertainer. That, is much rarer and much more important to
success than a great voice. Great voices are commonplace in Nashville. Great
entertainers are rare anywhere.<<<
So, so true, Rock...P.
XSweetSue
( besides all the talk about beating up his wives....)
Shania..all her songs sound alike..she's trying to use sex to sell her music.A
good talent doesn't need to do this.
Rkidnash
of her songs comes on the radio I never know which one it is till she starts
"singing" And if you take the music from one of her songs and the lyrics from
another it almost always fits, all her songs are interchangable (most of them
anyway)
Debbie Caudill
>Tracy Lawrence !!!! YUK
<snipped the malicious content>
The man has a rich deep voice, I like him alot......
>
>Shania..all her songs sound alike..she's trying to use sex to sell her music.A
>good talent doesn't need to do this.
and here I agree with you........
Ray Zuniga
Clark Reid <clar...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>I agree Rock.
>
>I think this whole subject has been given a thorough workout but, as always
>I'll add my 5 cents worth LOL.
>
>The ability to sing can be judged very easily and is not open to "opinion".
>
>If someone can stay on pitch and keep the phrasing in sync with the song
>timing then they can sing. FACT.
>
>Whether or not what they are then doing is pleasant to individual ears is
>opinion. It doesn't matter what technical argument you apply if someone
>doesn't like the sound of something, they simply don't.
>
>So it's pointless for anyone to say that someone who maintains pitch and
>timing can't sing. that's not an opinion, in that situation it would be an
>incorrect determination.
Man, this is beautiful. You said it so much better then I could
have. Can someone add this to the FAQ?!
>Being able to sing and entertain a crowd is something that can be stated as
>fact. Whether or not we individually enjoy that, is opinion.
>
>Just my ramble.
Great post. I agree completely.
Jerry L
al...@aol.com (ALLTM) wrote:
>>Oh, I don't know. Maybe a couple of million fans that buy
>>recorded music and concert tickets.
>>
>>It is kind of like Pamela Anderson Lee and acting. She can't
do
>>it worth a dang. But a lot of people like to watch her try.
>>
>
>Thanx for being curteous in your reply. That is getting to be
a rarity in use net. If you see where I am going, then you
probably agree with something I heard several years
back...."Nobody ever went broke over estimating the bad taste of
the American public."
>
>OK Point taken, but...... Originally I had mention Aaron
Tippon, Mark Miller,
>John Michael, etc..... You can't compare a singer with a bad
voice, to a bad
>actress who is hot. It's apples and oranges. Still my initial
question was
>also, "Who in the world told the above listed people that they
could sing?"
>Who is that deaf? I guess every profession has its people that
rise to the top
>without really having much to offer. I just regret that
country music has so
>many of those people.
>
>But I see where you were going....
>
>
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>
> Notso SweetSue wrote
> >Tracy Lawrence !!!!
> The man has a rich deep voice, I like him alot......
He sure does, I think he's the best ever
kelly...@my-deja.com
she wouldn't have had all that success. Those of you who say that her voice
isn't great- well you all are just jealous. Are you a Country Superstar? Nah-
I didn't think so. So, next time you want to insult someone why don't you
look at yourself first. Anyways--- For all us Tanya Tucker fans- WE KNOW
exactly what a great voice sounds like! :) Go Tanya!
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Before you buy.
fgt
At least 2 or 3 albums in the charts all the time, every single is a
surefire hit, jeez even my local Pizza Hut assails my ears with her bland
pop country when I eat there.
yawn... elevator music!!
I blame linedancing myself :o)
FGT
Rkidnash <rkid...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000526015158...@ng-cr1.aol.com...
> That's what I've been saying too, I'm glad someone agrees with me.
Whenever one
> of her songs comes on the radio I never know which one it is till she
starts
> "singing" And if you take the music from one of her songs and the lyrics
from
> another it almost always fits, all her songs are interchangable (most of
them
> anyway)
>
>
Clark Reid
voice!
Clark Reid
www.clarkreid.cjb.net
"Scott" <westsi...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom> wrote in message
news:392EE0...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom...
XSweetSue
That's what I've been saying too, I'm glad someone agrees with me. Whenever one
of her songs comes on the radio I never know which one it is till she starts
"singing" And if you take the music from one of her songs and the lyrics from
another it almost always fits, all her songs are interchangable (most of them
anyway)
>Shania..all her songs sound alike..she's trying to use sex to sell her
>music.A
>good talent doesn't need to do this.
>>I would *hardly* call her country. Pop is more like it. Her 15 minutes is
almost finished tick-tick-tick <<<
Loren Di Iorio
: Think yourself lucky - here in the UK, Shania _is_ country music!!
: At least 2 or 3 albums in the charts all the time, every single is a
: surefire hit, jeez even my local Pizza Hut assails my ears with her
: bland pop country when I eat there.
Consider *yourself* lucky! ;) Here in Canada, it's kinda hard to never
hear a Shania tune at least once in the same hour. Plus, it's almost
guaranteed that someone requests a Shania vid every day on CMT's
Request Line, and that got annoying about eighteen months ago. :I
Every time I go to Popeye's they're playing "When", but then, it's on
a dance station, not HNC or whatever. Bass beats aren't exactly the
easiest things to endure, while trying to enjoy chicken and biscuits. :)
...Loren
"I hope you still feel small when you stand beside the ocean"
- Lee Ann Womack, "I Hope You Dance"
For Loren's reviews, visit:
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/reviews/
Nola Daniell
Umm, I think this thread is officially dead now seeing your invoked the
old "You are all just jealous" line. Sigh, when are people going to be
allowed to have an opinion without fanatics jumping down their throats?
And by the way, I think Tanya is great also, but I don't mind if others
have a different view.
Nola