Anyone else sick of Garth?
Brian
When he first arrived on the scene, his music was great. Even the lyrics
were meaningfull. Anything released after "The Hits" album is not worth
buying and I certainly won't buy this Chris Gaines bullshit.
Lately, his music seems to match his lifestyle. Attention seeking and
lacking substance.
And what's this Rock shit? Middle life crisis or what?
Leave that stuff to the younger generation. They don't need another
middle-aged overweight rocker. They've already got Meatloaf.
B.
jimander
I am definately sick of Garth .He is not as good as he used to be ,then
again a lot of other artist aren't either.
CLA
>
>
d. meyer
album? they are inteeligently written and are worth listening to. some
of the songs even feature the traditional garth brooks vocal style, only
with a different instrumental arrangement. it's very sad that in today's
world a person is looked down upon for not conforming to the norm.
ciao
dan
:-)
Soccer Hooligan
Brian <b...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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> Whatever happened to Garth Brooks?
>
> When he first arrived on the scene, his music was great. Even the lyrics
> were meaningfull. Anything released after "The Hits" album is not worth
> buying and I certainly won't buy this Chris Gaines bullshit.
>
> Lately, his music seems to match his lifestyle. Attention seeking and
> lacking substance.
>
> And what's this Rock shit? Middle life crisis or what?
> Leave that stuff to the younger generation. They don't need another
> middle-aged overweight rocker. They've already got Meatloaf.
>
> B.
>
great fan, Meatloaf at least has better crafted songs (those by Jim
Steinman). And ironically, last time I saw Meatloaf on television, he'd
lost quite a bit of weight. That fat Garth Brooks now weighs more than
Meatloaf!
Brooks was some wannabe pop singer from the beginning. He was simply using
"country music" to scam his way to pop. Much like Lee Ann Rimes, Shania the
skank, etc.
leper
He looks like a narc in drag.
What a Puke.
>
>
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Before you buy.
Eric Brothers
Oh well, as much as I dont like it I am sure it will sell quite well.
Soccer Hooligan
Eric Brothers <Eric...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I saw one video and the song sucked. He looked and sounded like prince.
> Oh well, as much as I dont like it I am sure it will sell quite well.
>
isn't going to reach anyone in the rock fandom. They can see right through
the scam.
That Brooks never had an original idea in his life. I seem to recall a very
similar story line in a David Essex film in the early 70s.
Eric Brothers
they choose. I have only heard one song, and I stated that in my opinion
it wasnt very good. Maybe because you know him you are blinded to the
fact that his new stuff may not be great. I never said anything bad
about him as a person. I am sure hes a great person. But his new stuff
is lame, and I am not going to say I like it just because I like the
person. I personally think his last great album was No Fences, but thats
just my opinion. My point is dont get too upset with people not liking
it. I am sure garth himself wouldnt mind the criticism!!!!!!!!
lain
mostly the old stuff that I grew up with. BUT I am sick of seeing the cover
photo for the Chris Gaines CD everywhere! & it is everywhere!! It's on the
ads for the TVs in the Circuit City, Best Buy, etc. circulars.....It is just
OVERKILL, and all this marketing genius may backfire. (& I do believe Garth
and his *people* have great marketing) For one, I am sick of Chris Gaines
and was before this last media push~!
Nshvlbrat
your dispostion.
I for one accept him and whatever kind of music he chooses to do. I know him,
and I know he's still country through and through. He doesn't need anyone
else's permission to sing whatever type of music pleases him at the moment.
Last I heard, it was still a free country....
-Brat
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Sawyer Brown blows Garth away. vocals, music, performance everything. They
should get some of Garth's publicity and airtime.
leper
"d. meyer" <dme...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> wrote:
> lacking substance??? have you even heard the music from the chris gaines
> album?
I for one have....
It's B-L-A-N-D
(unless all you listen to is C&W...then it would be a change of pace.)
Sounds like when they make a movie about some ficticious band,and make up
fake emmy winning music. They might ripp off some riffs and styles from
previously popular music. Y'know there are computer programs that can
manipulate a poular song. Ever notice how car commercials(or any) have those
songs sometimes that sound similar to familiar songs? See, if you can
manipulate a song you don't have to pay royalties and get a similar flavored
song. Some of those riffs sounded like dire straits,and some sounded like
Dylan. I'm not saying thats how they did this. But in my opinion thats what
it sounds like. BLAND music from some other dimension... I guess the suits
figure the "Garth" product can expound their profits,as the "Chris"product.
> they are inteeligently written and are worth listening to.
Depends who you are I guess...
> some
> of the songs even feature the traditional garth brooks vocal style, only
I liked when he threw his head back like Natalie Imbruglia and touched his
head just like her.
Then when he throws his fist in the air when he's really rockin'
cool!
Go man !
> with a different instrumental arrangement. it's very sad that in today's
> world a person is looked down upon for not conforming to the norm.
It's real sad what happened to the music business.
If all they can come up with is more Garth.
Garth is the norm nudging into another realm of norm.
maknig anything out of the norm the norm ...
It's like a bad twilight zone episode.
I must say
I never looked up to the
Garth product in the
first place.
But I got stuck watching his New York Concert on TV.years ago,It was
bland,and real hard to watch. I tried to have an open mind,but I guess the
fact I know real musicians,I just couldn't see what he does thats special. It
sounds like corporate Nashville "produced"fluff.
Yesterday, we had company and they wanted to watch Garth because they never
saw him. They left in the middle. His special was the death of the party
here.
Glad you dig it.
No offense here... but you can get just about anybody decent from a Karaoke
bar,rent a songwriter,and some studio musicians(the real talent) and have
Garth.
I saw him on talk shows ...he seemed like a nice guy.
It's nothing personal...
I guess it's like when Pat Boone "became" a "Biker".
It was just too cornball
to swallow.
>
> ciao
>
Arrivaderci!
> dan
> :-)
>
> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Brian wrote:
>
> > Whatever happened to Garth Brooks?
> >
> > When he first arrived on the scene, his music was great. Even the lyrics
> > were meaningfull. Anything released after "The Hits" album is not worth
> > buying and I certainly won't buy this Chris Gaines bullshit.
> >
> > Lately, his music seems to match his lifestyle. Attention seeking and
> > lacking substance.
> >
> > And what's this Rock shit? Middle life crisis or what?
> > Leave that stuff to the younger generation. They don't need another
> > middle-aged overweight rocker. They've already got Meatloaf.
> >
> > B.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Brett Dale
>
> Eric Brothers <Eric...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:26376-37...@newsd-163.iap.bryant.webtv.net..
> > Oh well, as much as I dont like it I am sure it will sell quite well.
> >
> The only people who will buy that album are Garth Brooks fans. He certainly
> isn't going to reach anyone in the rock fandom. They can see right through
> the scam.
>
> That Brooks never had an original idea in his life. I seem to recall a very
> similar story line in a David Essex film in the early 70s.
Well babyface and don was seemed to like the idea , theres more to the
movie plot that people think. I say wait till the movies released and
then comment on it, not before hand, wouldnt that be fair?.
Brett Dale
Well I think the only thing that gets Garth fans mad are when people
insult him personally and write comments that arent true, i have no
problem if someone listens to a garth album and says "I dont like the
music on this album". I have a problem when people bitch and moan
because Garth has made money or sold a lot of albums or is doing is a
rock album. Garth can do what he wants no one owns him.
Ray Zuniga
Eric Brothers <Eric...@webtv.net> wrote:
>they choose. I have only heard one song, and I stated that in my opinion
>it wasnt very good. Maybe because you know him you are blinded to the
>about him as a person. I am sure hes a great person. But his new stuff
>is lame, and I am not going to say I like it just because I like the
>person.
You hear one song and come to an opinion that his new stuff is
lame? Glad to hear you're so open minded. :)
zeke_th...@my-deja.com
http://www.freep.com/justgo/sj/1999/0924/1.htm
Garth Brooks
"In the Life of Chris Gaines"
(Capitol Nashville)
1 star
The first question you want answered, of course: Just how goofy does
Garth Brooks sound on this thing?
You already know this much going in: "In the Life of Chris Gaines"
undoubtedly qualifies as one of the more surreal vanity projects in pop-
music history. Due in stores Tuesday, it's an introduction to the music
of Gaines, the troubled fictional rocker whom Brooks will play in next
year's Paramount film "The Lamb." This album is a greatest-hits
collection for a character whose make-believe body of work is said to
have "defined our times over the last decade."
But despite Brooks' best (worst?) intentions, the record won't ever
blindly sweep you into the world of Chris Gaines, brooding rock
superstar. What it will do is make you grimace while you listen to
rock 'n' roll as identified and processed by the bricklayer hands of
Garth Brooks.
Garth may have grown up a Kiss fan, and he enlisted star Detroit
producer Don Was for the project, but Garth does not understand
rock 'n' roll. Halfway through the album, you realize this is a guy
whose rock education ended with Kenny Loggins circa 1981. The rock star
he has hand-designed is utterly lacking rock 'n' roll's real spirit: No
underlying sexual tension. No cigarette-burned emotion. Not even what
we would be a gloriously refreshing whiff of sloppiness.
Just as he was when he elbowed his way into baseball last year, Brooks
is a multiplatinum carpetbagger in a land where he has no place
sticking his nose, and it is an affront to anyone who cares what sort
of "rock" is being spoon-fed to an innocently open-eared public.
The vocals are delivered with nary a hint of spontaneity -- this
despite Brooks' valiant attempt to come off gritty, making sure, for
instance, to enunciate "weather" as "weathUH" and "there" as "they-UH."
He often sings with a hoarse breathiness apparently intended to add an
edge of sensuality.
The album features blatant rewrites of the Wallflowers' "One Headlight"
("Unsigned Letter") and Dylan's "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" ("Main
Street"). "My Love Tells Me So" closes the album with a page straight
from the Chicago sound book, complete with multilayered vocals and
brassy horns -- brassy horns, that is, played on a synthesizer.
For 10 years, Garth has managed to call his music "country" by
employing nominal sonic devices from the genre-- steel guitars et al --
which allows him, as he would probably put it, to market product in
that format. Here, he does the same with pop-rock: a dab of Hammond
organ in "Snow in July," a few backward effects on "Unsigned Letter,"
some electronically processed drums in "That's the Way I Remember It."
Brooks returns to his country vocalisms for "It Doesn't Matter to the
Sun," a plaintive ballad that stands as one of the better cuts on the
13-track record.
It's usually easy to forgive an artist's self-conscious ventures into
new stylistic territory. But there's a reason David Bowie can get away
with it while Garth Brooks stands no chance. Smeared with cold
calculation, bloated with hubris, this whole Chris Gaines project
smells like fish. Shoot, maybe it would have worked better if it had
simply been billed as the new Garth Brooks album.
Which leads to your next big question: Is this the official, long-
awaited misstep from Golden-Touch Garth? Alas, considering pop and
country radio's eager embrace of leadoff single "Lost in You," probably
not. His defenders will accuse critics of licking their chops in
anticipation of this vulnerable concept album. Well, of course we are.
Garth is a faker overdue for a fall. What better place for it to happen
than on the ultimate fake album? IN STORES TUESDAY.
By Brian McCollum, Free Press pop music critic
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Eric Brothers
not going to buy it after hearing one song that I Dont like. Oh, and I
wonder how many people out there think "Get Together" is a brand new
song. Eric...:)
don935
nshv...@aol.com (Nshvlbrat) wrote:
> NO ONE is forcing any of you to listen to his music. Don't.
> Maybe it'll help
> your dispostion.
Yeah buddy!
> He doesn't need anyone else's permission to sing whatever >type of
music pleases him at the moment.
> Last I heard, it was still a free country....
I've listened to both country and pop since I was a kid. Garth has,
too. Where is it written you can only enjoy only one style of music?
And what the heck is wrong with Garth doing something like this if
he's able? At least he's being honest and not calling it a country
album.
By the way, I have listened to the CD, and I like it. It's nothing
earthshaking, but it is well done.
Peace.
Don
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d. meyer
country to oldies. and i like it. it is just a matter of opinion.
nothing more, nothing less.
ciao
dan
:-)
Ken
Even that has been disputed....
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Ken
GIVE US A BREAK on the SAWYER BROWN kick!
Like Garth or not, I dont not believe any one can touch him in Entertaining.
When was the last time that Sawyer Brown SOLD-OUT a decent sized arena (or
any for that matter) for 6+ nights straight? Do they still even put out
music? Been ages since I have heard anything worth listening to from them.
I was a fan from the start, back when they were on Star Search (My father
let me stay up late enough to watch when they were on), but GIVE ME A BREAK!
As for the Chirs Gaines thing... I have mixed reviews on it. I like a few
ofthe songs on the cd, but I would much rather have heard Garth get back to
what made him great, some GREAT *Country* music. I am awaiting his return,
but until then, let him do what he wants, just as long as he knows he is
alienating some of his fans that have been around since the very
begining....
March2875 <marc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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March2875
out concerts everywhere they go. in 1994 they were the top grossing Band in
country music. So get off your lazy butt and look at the record store. They put
out music all the time check out "Drive Me Wild" its an incredible album.
March2875
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Debbie Caudill
>Next time you tell me to give SB a rest you might remember this moment.
Does your Mommy know you're playing on her computer?
Ken
By Brad Schmitt / Staff Writer
Garth Brooks' NBC specials usually do very well, but his Wednesday night
show did not: His show was beat out by ABC, CBS and even Fox. And it drew
only about half the audience his NBC prime-time specials usually do.
Garth Brooks... In the Life of Chris Gaines drew a 5.5 rating in preliminary
overnight ratings, which translates roughly into 5.5 million households.
That was fourth place among major networks in the 7 to 8 p.m. timeslot.
ABC won the timeslot: Two Guys and a Girl scored a 7.3 rating at 7 p.m. and
Norm scored a 7.6 rating at 7:30 p.m.
(Garth got beat by Norm? Oy.)
CBS' Cosby and new sitcom Work With Me also outdrew Garth, as did Fox's
Beverly Hills, 90210.
March2875
free speech. But obviously we have hypocrits in here. People have told others
they have a right to state their opinion and say whatever they want. Thats why
he or you have no right to tell me I can't talk about The Worlds greatest
country band Sawyer Brown. I will talk about them as much as I want.
Soccer Hooligan
March2875 <marc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Ive been sick of Garth since day one. More hype than any one artist
deserves.
> Sawyer Brown blows Garth away. vocals, music, performance everything. They
> should get some of Garth's publicity and airtime.
At least they have talent, and the fans buy their albums. Upon release
Brooks buys up enough of his own albums to sway the charts and appear to be
more phenominal than he is.
Soccer Hooligan
Nshvlbrat <nshv...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> NO ONE is forcing any of you to listen to his music. Don't. Maybe it'll
help
> your dispostion.
>
him,
> else's permission to sing whatever type of music pleases him at the
moment.
> Last I heard, it was still a free country....
>
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There is quite a difference between (what King Crimson guitarist, Robert
Fripp calls) craft and commerce. Brooks is all commerce. The only
successful person to bridge all the gaps was Elvis.
Brett Dale
>
> March2875 <marc...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19991001003428...@ng-fd1.aol.com..
> deserves.
> > Sawyer Brown blows Garth away. vocals, music, performance everything. They
> > should get some of Garth's publicity and airtime.
>
> At least they have talent, and the fans buy their albums. Upon release
> Brooks buys up enough of his own albums to sway the charts and appear to be
> more phenominal than he is.
So your saying Garth buys his owns albums?.Did he buy all 95 million of
them, and were the 5 million people who went to his tour and the million
people whop showed up in central park, I suppose you think they were
actors, Get Real!.
Soccer Hooligan
Funny, I used to hate Sawyer Brown, but it seems since they got rid of that
original guitar player they've sounded like a whole new band, and very good.
You wouldn't think that one person would have made that much of a
difference.
Soccer Hooligan
Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
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I did not say that he bought all of them. Granted he has plenty of fans,
and BTW, you can only take the record company's word for how many are really
sold. Many an entertainer and songwriter has been screwed this way. If he
has indeed sold 95 million (which I seriously doubt), it would not be
unreasonable to say he bought a fair number of them himself, and used the
old payola to saturate the air waves. These things happen, and it is not so
far fetched as it sounds.
don935
Brett Dale
The fact that local stations around the usa didnt end up showing the
special because they were on a Hurricane watch, would of put that figrue
down.
Brett Dale
>
> Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
> news:37F63B...@caverock.net.nz..
> > >
> > > March2875 <marc...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:19991001003428...@ng-fd1.aol.com.
> > > deserves.
> > > > Sawyer Brown blows Garth away. vocals, music, performance everything.
> They
> > > > should get some of Garth's publicity and airtime.
> > >
> > > At least they have talent, and the fans buy their albums. Upon release
> > > Brooks buys up enough of his own albums to sway the charts and appear to
> be
> > > more phenominal than he is.
> >
> > So your saying Garth buys his owns albums?.Did he buy all 95 million of
> > them, and were the 5 million people who went to his tour and the million
> > people whop showed up in central park, I suppose you think they were
> > actors, Get Real!.
>
> I did not say that he bought all of them. Granted he has plenty of fans,
> and BTW, you can only take the record company's word for how many are really
> sold. Many an entertainer and songwriter has been screwed this way. If he
> has indeed sold 95 million (which I seriously doubt), it would not be
> unreasonable to say he bought a fair number of them himself, and used the
> old payola to saturate the air waves. These things happen, and it is not so
> far fetched as it sounds.
Uhm you have more than the record company's word than how many hes sold,
in the USA sales are done by SoundScan, which means exact sales figures
are used. Thats why country albums shoot up the charts when that was
bought in. People like Michael Jackson and Madonna couldnt lie about
their figures anymore. AS for the airwaves comment, well radio in the USA
havent been playing a lot of Garth lately.
Stacy Pleasant
>The fact that local stations around the usa didnt end up showing the
>special because they were on a Hurricane watch, would of put that figrue
>down.
If you're talking about Floyd, he was long gone by Wednesday night.
Thanks,
Stacy Brian Pleasant
'The secret of life is there ain't no secret!'
Brett Dale
Uhm no I wasnt talking about that one, a few posters on the
alt.music.garth-brooks group said their local station didnt have the
special because they cut to a live report, because it was a tornado, im
not sure?.
Nshvlbrat
>There is quite a difference between (what King Crimson guitarist, Robert
>Fripp calls) craft and commerce. Brooks is all commerce. The only
>successful person to bridge all the gaps was Elvis.
Your opinion...you're welcome to it. I'll stick to mine. Funny thing...his
peers agree with me...
DMCo...@aol.com
"Brian" <b...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> Whatever happened to Garth Brooks?
>
> When he first arrived on the scene, his music was great. Even the
lyrics
> were meaningfull. Anything released after "The Hits" album is not
worth
> buying and I certainly won't buy this Chris Gaines bullshit.
>
> Lately, his music seems to match his lifestyle. Attention seeking and
> lacking substance.
>
> And what's this Rock shit? Middle life crisis or what?
> Leave that stuff to the younger generation. They don't need another
> middle-aged overweight rocker. They've already got Meatloaf.
>
> B.
>
best work. "No Fences" hit it big and so did his head. He has had a
few good songs scattered here and there. He always praises George
Strait. Maybe he should follow George's lead and stick to more of the
traditional sounds. I like a little rock sometimes, but when I tune in
to a country station, I want to hear country.
Ken
> special because they were on a Hurricane watch, would of put that figrue
> down.>>
I dunno about that... but I guess any excuse is a good excuse :~)
Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
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> Ken wrote:
> >
> > Garth TV is in low places
> > By Brad Schmitt / Staff Writer
> >
> > Garth Brooks' NBC specials usually do very well, but his Wednesday night
> > show did not: His show was beat out by ABC, CBS and even Fox. And it
drew
> > only about half the audience his NBC prime-time specials usually do.
> >
> > Garth Brooks... In the Life of Chris Gaines drew a 5.5 rating in
preliminary
> > overnight ratings, which translates roughly into 5.5 million households.
> >
> > That was fourth place among major networks in the 7 to 8 p.m. timeslot.
> >
> > ABC won the timeslot: Two Guys and a Girl scored a 7.3 rating at 7 p.m.
and
> > Norm scored a 7.6 rating at 7:30 p.m.
> >
> > (Garth got beat by Norm? Oy.)
> >
> > CBS' Cosby and new sitcom Work With Me also outdrew Garth, as did Fox's
> > Beverly Hills, 90210.
>
March2875
their success has come sense Bobby was replaced by Duncan so you are probably
right.
William Quinnan
seriously. However, he gets on this high-and-mighty trip now and then, and
his music gets annoying and preachy. (Good examples of this preachiness are
"We Shall Be Free", "Standing Outside the Fire" or "The River".) But who
can resist "American Honky-Tonk Bar Association"?
As for "Chris Gaines", I haven't heard much, but the thirty-second video
clip I saw just wasn't my type of music. I'm not even sure if it was
supposed to be alternative, Top--40 or what, but it didn't appeal to me. Oh
well, maybe he'll make up for it with his next album.
Clark Reid
songs ever written and performed. I have a 12 year old daughter and when she
was only 6 I made her a poster with the words to that song on it and the
advice that if she followed it's message she wouldn't go far wrong. She
doesn't live with me and I only see her about twice a year if I'm lucky, but
she still tells me she has it on her room wall.
I guess different songs just mean different things to different people.
Clark Reid
www.hi-tek.net/clark
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KevinJCoyne
>I have always thought that "The River" was one of the best inspirational
>songs ever written and performed
Definitely one of the best. Interestingly enough, its competition for the
title comes from a few other Brooks recordings - "The Dance," "If Tomorrow
Never Comes," and "Unanswered Prayers." He didn't sell 89 million records just
by his marketing skills. I think Garth's best work ranks up there with the
greatest country recordings of all-time.
March2875
Garth will record sequels to all his biggest hits. The songs will keep the same
musical arrangements just the story will continue.He said he got the sense that
his more recent stuff wasn't as popular so he would go back and rework the old
stuff. However this isn't an original idea just no artist has ever done it with
their own music before. Marty Stuart cut a sequal to "The Devil Went Down to
Georgia" Where the devil came back for revenge this time he went up against
Mark O'connor on the fiddle. Also on one of Cledus T. Judds CD's he cut a
sequal to "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer" its called "Grandpa Got Run Over
by a John Deere" It picks up from Grandma's funeral and describes the next two
years of Grandpa's life. He gets killed by the tractor walking home from his
new girlfriends house on christmas eve.
joeda
wrote:
> I have always thought that "The River" was one of the best inspirational
> >
> >I agree "The River" is one of his best. My personal favorite is
still "The Dance", I never get tired of that. Quite alot of Garth's
early music was outstanding. As I've said earlier I'm just not
real interested in the whole "Chris Gaines" deal, but Garth's
place in Country Music is already established, & I believe him
when he says he would never leave Country. Chris Gaines isn't
hurting anything. At least he admits it's pop.
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Scott
>>Even that has been disputed....
>What has been disputed?
He was trying to get it on the Billboard Country Album chart. Billboard
didn't cave in.
Stacy Pleasant
Scott wrote:
>He was trying to get it on the Billboard Country Album chart. Billboard
>didn't cave in.
>
Scott, if you can reference this information, I'd appreciate it. It seems I
recall hearing that Garth asked Billboard not to put it on the country
albums chart. I listened to a couple of tracks myself expecting everything
to be as dreadful as Lost In You, but some of it is not so bad and sounds
akin to what's on country radio today.
Brett Dale
>
> <<At least he's being honest and not calling it a country album.>>
>
> >>Even that has been disputed....
>
> >What has been disputed?
>
> didn't cave in.
Boy this has been misreported, Garth and baby face asked for it to be
taken off the country charts because it was not a country album heck just
ask Billboard themselves, they will tell you the truth.
Scott
>
>Scott wrote:
>>He was trying to get it on the Billboard Country Album chart. Billboard
>>didn't cave in.
>
I
>recall hearing that Garth asked Billboard not to put it on the country
>albums chart.
Kevin, who works for Billboard, said it here. I noticed you weren't here
for a while!
Seems Garth tried to apply his pressure, and when Billboard didn't cave in,
that was when Garth adopted his position asking for it not to be there. How
convenient!
monica_...@my-deja.com
but ever since he started singing the Chris Gaines, my opinions changed.
He was a great country singer, one of my favorites, but since his Chris
Gaines song, I don't really care for him.
Monica
Stacy Pleasant
works for Billboard, I guess the horse's mouth is as good as any.
I am rather interested at seeing the album sales. After a poor showing of
his television special, I'm not expecting a strong showing from the album.
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Stacy Brian Pleasant
'The secret of life is there ain't no secret!'
Scott wrote in message <7tb704$q6c$1...@mail.pl.unisys.com>...
Brett Dale
>
> Stacy Pleasant wrote ...
> >
> >Scott wrote:
> >>He was trying to get it on the Billboard Country Album chart. Billboard
> >>didn't cave in.
> >
> >Scott, if you can reference this information, I'd appreciate it. It seems
> I
> >recall hearing that Garth asked Billboard not to put it on the country
> >albums chart.
>
> Kevin, who works for Billboard, said it here. I noticed you weren't here
> for a while!
>
> Seems Garth tried to apply his pressure, and when Billboard didn't cave in,
> that was when Garth adopted his position asking for it not to be there. How
> convenient!
WRONG WRONG WRONG! Garth and Kennth Baby Face Edmonds asked BillBoard not
to put it on the country charts this was always the case, not the other
way around. Yeepers people should give it a rest.
Brett Dale
>
> Thanks....yes, there was a period of time when I wasn't here. Since Kevin
> works for Billboard, I guess the horse's mouth is as good as any.
>
> I am rather interested at seeing the album sales. After a poor showing of
> his television special, I'm not expecting a strong showing from the album.
> --
> Thanks,
> Stacy Brian Pleasant
> 'The secret of life is there ain't no secret!'
>
> Scott wrote in message <7tb704$q6c$1...@mail.pl.unisys.com>...
> >>
> >>Scott wrote:
> >>>He was trying to get it on the Billboard Country Album chart. Billboard
> >>>didn't cave in.
> >>
> >>Scott, if you can reference this information, I'd appreciate it. It seems
> >I
> >>recall hearing that Garth asked Billboard not to put it on the country
> >>albums chart.
> >
> >Kevin, who works for Billboard, said it here. I noticed you weren't here
> >for a while!
> >
> >Seems Garth tried to apply his pressure, and when Billboard didn't cave in,
> >that was when Garth adopted his position asking for it not to be there.
> How
> >convenient!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
Although every post by Kevin about Garth has been very negative, so
whether you can take an Intern's word for it who has been critical in the
past about an artist I dont know. All I know is that the Chris gaines
thing has been around since 1997 and it WAS always going to be on the POP
charts alone.
Ken
taken off the country charts because it was not a country album heck just
ask Billboard themselves, they will tell you the truth.>>
According to someone that does work for BILLBOARD, as posted here
previously, you are incorrect... what says you now?
Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
news:37FA30...@caverock.net.nz...
> Scott wrote:
> >
> > <<At least he's being honest and not calling it a country album.>>
> >
> > >>Even that has been disputed....
> >
> > >What has been disputed?
> >
> > He was trying to get it on the Billboard Country Album chart. Billboard
> > didn't cave in.
>
Balecox
too. When's the last time you heard of an intern being "in on" executive
meetings about the fastest selling solo artist in country music history?
I don't think so.
Patsi
Ken
Balecox <bal...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Brett Dale
>
> <<Boy this has been misreported, Garth and baby face asked for it to be
> taken off the country charts because it was not a country album heck just
> ask Billboard themselves, they will tell you the truth.>>
>
> According to someone that does work for BILLBOARD, as posted here
> previously, you are incorrect... what says you now?
>
> Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
> news:37FA30...@caverock.net.nz..
> > >
> > > <<At least he's being honest and not calling it a country album.>>
> > >
> > > >>Even that has been disputed....
> > >
> > > >What has been disputed?
> > >
> > > He was trying to get it on the Billboard Country Album chart. Billboard
> > > didn't cave in.
> >
> > Boy this has been misreported, Garth and baby face asked for it to be
> > taken off the country charts because it was not a country album heck just
> > ask Billboard themselves, they will tell you the truth.
I will tell you what I says now, the person who posted this , perviously
has posted very negative comments about Garth, he is also an Intern.
According to Garth, Baby Face and people who work directly in the music
Industry in nashville it was garth that asked it not to be on the country
charts. Untill the head of billboard comes put and makes a comment and
not an intern , then I would take Garth's word for it.
Brett Dale
One pop album and you dont like him anymore, sure you can not buy the
Chris gaines album, but that is really silly.
Brett Dale
>
> While I am not a "Fan" of Kevins, but he is one of the most straight talking
> people on this board that knows what he is talking about and has shown this
> to be the truth, time and time again. I'm sorry, but I think I would trust
> his word. I have been a fan of Garths since the very begining, longer than
> a lot of "Garth Nutts" I know. I was very disappointed to hear that he did
> what he did. Dont believe Kevin if you dont want to, but I dont see where
> Kevin has anything to gain, and a lot of respect to lose, if he says such
> things without the ability to back it up...> news:37FA5B...@caverock.net.nz..
> > Ken wrote:
> > >
> > > <<Boy this has been misreported, Garth and baby face asked for it to be
> > > taken off the country charts because it was not a country album heck
> just
> > > ask Billboard themselves, they will tell you the truth.>>
> > >
> > > According to someone that does work for BILLBOARD, as posted here
> > > previously, you are incorrect... what says you now?
> > >
> > > Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
> > > news:37FA30...@caverock.net.nz.
> > > > >
> > > > > <<At least he's being honest and not calling it a country album.>>
> > > > >
> > > > > >>Even that has been disputed....
> > > > >
> > > > > >What has been disputed?
> > > > >
> > > > > He was trying to get it on the Billboard Country Album chart.
> Billboard
> > > > > didn't cave in.
> > > >
> > > > Boy this has been misreported, Garth and baby face asked for it to be
> > > > taken off the country charts because it was not a country album heck
> just
> > > > ask Billboard themselves, they will tell you the truth.
> >
> > I will tell you what I says now, the person who posted this , perviously
> > has posted very negative comments about Garth, he is also an Intern.
> > According to Garth, Baby Face and people who work directly in the music
> > Industry in nashville it was garth that asked it not to be on the country
> > charts. Untill the head of billboard comes put and makes a comment and
> > not an intern , then I would take Garth's word for it.
I believe what I read in 1997, I beleive what people who have a bigger
standing in nashville say. I beleive that baby face and Garth a few
other people on this board aren't lying. Like I said before this Chris
gaines thing has been around for years and from what I hear Garth has
always said The albuim wont be on the country charts. He has also asked
record stores to have it in the pop section. Im sorry if this insults
people but I would believe what GARTH BROOKS says about Garth Brooks than
what someone else says about Garth Brooks.
Clark Reid
KevinJCoyne <kevin...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >I have always thought that "The River" was one of the best inspirational
Clark Reid
also had Mark O'Conner on fiddle, but also included Johnny Cash, Travis
Tritt and. of course, Charlie Daniels.
Clark Reid
www.hi-tek.net/clark
March2875 <marc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Ken
people on this board that knows what he is talking about and has shown this
to be the truth, time and time again. I'm sorry, but I think I would trust
his word. I have been a fan of Garths since the very begining, longer than
a lot of "Garth Nutts" I know. I was very disappointed to hear that he did
what he did. Dont believe Kevin if you dont want to, but I dont see where
Kevin has anything to gain, and a lot of respect to lose, if he says such
things without the ability to back it up...
Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
news:37FA5B...@caverock.net.nz...
> Ken wrote:
> >
> > <<Boy this has been misreported, Garth and baby face asked for it to be
> > taken off the country charts because it was not a country album heck
just
> > ask Billboard themselves, they will tell you the truth.>>
> >
> > According to someone that does work for BILLBOARD, as posted here
> > previously, you are incorrect... what says you now?
> >
> > Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
> > news:37FA30...@caverock.net.nz..
KevinJCoyne
I appreciate the support of those who believe I told the truth, and I
understand those who think I made the story up for whatever reason, since it
was a case of a lowly intern's word against a popular recording artist. Either
way, it's a silly thing to argue over and I regret even bringing it up. I
don't have an anti-Garth agenda or anything. I happen to like a lot of his
music, I've seen him in concert twice, and credit him for bringing country
music to an entirely new audience. There's no real point in arguing about stuff
that goes on in the business side, since his loyalists will just defend him and
his critics will just bash him. Strangely enough, I'm one of the only people
who posts here who probably wants the Chris Gaines thing to succeed. I didn't
at first, since I thought the idea was ludicrous, but then I realized that if
one of my favorite artists, say Pam Tillis, did something similar, I would be
intrigued and excited about it. When Pam went to Broadway, she didn't receive
any criticism, but if Garth did it, he'd certainly be bashed, which is unfair.
I think critics who bash the CG concept are doing so because of problems with
Garth rather than the idea. Certainly Marty Stuart's concept album didn't
receive a negative backlash. Ultimately, the music will decide whether or not
this project succeeds, and the only barrier I see for this Garth endeavor is
the lukewarm response from radio. Maybe "Right Now," which is a far more
innovative release than "Lost In You," will help turn the tide at top 40 for
him. I personally would find no enjoyment in seeing country's most
identifiable star fall on his face. That can't be good for the genre.
>Ken wrote:
>>
>> While I am not a "Fan" of Kevins, but he is one of the most straight
>talking
>> people on this board that knows what he is talking about and has shown this
>> to be the truth, time and time again. I'm sorry, but I think I would trust
>> his word. I have been a fan of Garths since the very begining, longer than
>> a lot of "Garth Nutts" I know. I was very disappointed to hear that he did
>> what he did. Dont believe Kevin if you dont want to, but I dont see where
>> Kevin has anything to gain, and a lot of respect to lose, if he says such
>> things without the ability to back it up...
>>
>> Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
>> news:37FA5B...@caverock.net.nz..
>> > Ken wrote:
>> > >
>> > > <<Boy this has been misreported, Garth and baby face asked for it to be
>> > > taken off the country charts because it was not a country album heck
>> just
>> > > ask Billboard themselves, they will tell you the truth.>>
>> > >
>> > > According to someone that does work for BILLBOARD, as posted here
>> > > previously, you are incorrect... what says you now?
>> > >
>> > > Brett Dale <br...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
>> > > news:37FA30...@caverock.net.nz.
>> > > > Scott wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > <<At least he's being honest and not calling it a country album.>>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >>Even that has been disputed....
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >What has been disputed?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > He was trying to get it on the Billboard Country Album chart.
>> Billboard
>> > > > > didn't cave in.
>> > > >
>> > > > Boy this has been misreported, Garth and baby face asked for it to be
>> > > > taken off the country charts because it was not a country album heck
>> just
>> > > > ask Billboard themselves, they will tell you the truth.
>> >
>> > I will tell you what I says now, the person who posted this , perviously
>> > has posted very negative comments about Garth, he is also an Intern.
>> > According to Garth, Baby Face and people who work directly in the music
>> > Industry in nashville it was garth that asked it not to be on the country
>> > charts. Untill the head of billboard comes put and makes a comment and
>> > not an intern , then I would take Garth's word for it.
>
>
John Simmons
hates...@aol.com says...
>Yes that is silly. If you are gonna stop liking someone stop
>liking them because they do something personal to you. Not by
>recording just one album or song you don't like. This is
>crazy I thought Country music fans were supposed to have a
>loyalty like noone else. Guess I was wrong.
Where the hell did you come up with that idea? People buy music they
like, and that's as far as their loyalty goes. I stopped buying GB CDs
after the 3rd one because his music turned to crap (IMHO) as far as
*country* music goes.
I don't hate Garth Brooks, but I don't like his new stuff either, and if
he ever makes another country album, I might even buy it. His latest pop
music thing (Chris Gaines) is laughable to me. AFAIC, he's all but
completely abandoned his core audience - the country music fan.
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treg
>suburban twits from a rock background who don't really know the music or share
>country culture, a lot of that has changed. It's sad, but true. Almost like
>havin' to live next door to yankees
I'm guessing that your tongue was planted firmly in your cheek for
most of that; but in case any newbies take you too literally, let's
not forget that it's the profits that the Shania's and the Garth's
generate for record companies that allow them to continue to
occassionally promote new, more traditional artists like Andy Griggs
or Sara Evans.
And, I would like to see some demographic statistics on album
purchases (maybe CB has some) because my guess would be that the young
city and suburban twits (and us yankees) are contributing a greater
percentage of purchase power than .. y'all!!!
Ray Arthur
Tim
treg wrote:
> . However, with the influx of young city and
> >suburban twits from a rock background who don't really know the music or share
> >country culture, a lot of that has changed. It's sad, but true. Almost like
> >havin' to live next door to yankees
>
> I'm guessing that your tongue was planted firmly in your cheek for
> most of that; but in case any newbies take you too literally, let's
> not forget that it's the profits that the Shania's and the Garth's
> generate for record companies that allow them to continue to
> occassionally promote new, more traditional artists like Andy Griggs
> or Sara Evans.
And it this urban/suburban northern twit who for 20 years have
bought Steve Wariner, John Anderson and Willie Nelson records.
What loyalty? Who's buying Willie and Waylon records these
days - Americana fans who are the same twits that show no loyalty
(Sorry only been buying Waylon records for about 12 years).
If you country fans are so loyal why have you dumped your royalty?
tim
Balecox
I'm still buying people who are making music I like and who didn't trash their
voices on cocaine and whiskey.
Patsi
March2875
His voice has changed some because he is a smoker but he is still good. The
last album project he did was in 92 his 25th anniversary at the grand ole opry.
It had 3 original songs and 7 of his previous songs that he rerecorded. I wish
they would reissue these old albums to CD.
