Shania going to the big D
Coop
Shania Twain & Husband Split
Originally posted Thursday May 15, 2008 02:00 PM EDT
Shania Twain and her husband, producer Robert "Mutt" Lange, have
split, her rep confirms to PEOPLE.
"Shania Twain and her husband, music producer Robert 'Mutt' Lange, are
separating after 14 years of marriage," spokesman Jason Owen says in a
statement. "This is a private matter and there will be no further
comment at this time."
Demonic
So there is a chance for me yet lol
KingCountryI@aol.com (Noah Tall)
> Shania Twain & Husband Split
> Shania Twain and her husband, producer Robert "Mutt" Lange, have
> split, her rep confirms to PEOPLE.<
Pretty much inevitable and long overdue, I guess. Having said that,
what makes this fascinating to me, is what will happen to her music.
I've always said that a producer is the single most important decision
you can make as an artist, and to have the success she had, and then
change producers (I assume) is going to result in a very different
sounding Shania Twain.
I'm not a big fan obviously, so I don't know if her music will be
better or worse, but it will definitely be different. Probably the end
of the road for mega-success.
Lee K
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Think Mutt goes for your type?
marika
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>
>
> Think Mutt goes for your type?
>
Ha! not necessary to bring photo..dogs seem to have a sense of who likes
them and who doesn't!
mk5000
But you can wake up younger under the knife
And you can wake up sounder if you get analyzed
And I better wake up
There but for the grace of God, go I--Rise Up With Fists, Jenny Lewis
Demonic
Nathan H.
Tall)" <KingCo...@aol.com> wrote:
After selling more than 10 million with her first two with Mutt, she
'only' sold about 3 million with the last one. Plus, as a fan, her
songs started sounding exactly like rejects from her previous two. I
think Shania (and Mutt) were becoming very creatively stagnant and
from a professional standpoint, its good they won't be working
together anymore. I don't really care about him, only her and I
think her future should be in adult contemporary radio, not country or
pop. Sure that wouldn't maximize her sales but I don't think she
would care any more about that. She's already 'made it' in the
music business and now its just about her doing what she wants
musically.
I'm also curious from a male point of view of seeing who she will be
dating in the future. She's still a major hottie at 42 and I could
see her dating much younger male singers or actors. Plus probably
have an out of wedlock child with one of them. ;-)
Der Komissar
stand all her exaggerations about her impoverished, "Native American"
upbringing. She is clearly looking to "trade up" but I do not think she is
all that.
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B. Peg
> So there is a chance for me yet lol
Maybe.
Hope she doesn't turn into one of those Sara Evan's types (i.e. hubby looked
at porn, he accuses her of sleeping around, decides she needs a fast
divorce, decides her prancer-dancer is hotter and wants him on her tour and
laughs during her Dancing With the Stars departure (that was sick!), and
soon dates a football player). Okay, Sara Evan's just doesn't have the
stage presence of Shania either having seen both in person. Shania seemed
to enjoy being onstage and fluid. Sara seemed like "I want to quit now" and
her movements are very forced.
Shania's hard part will be in trying to win Nashville over if she tries to
remain country. They could not stand for her success in sales nor her
looks. A very jealous and envious bunch. A few stood by her (Reba esp.).
Reminds me of the Faith Hill outburst over Carrie Underwood.
B~
Stinky
> I always thought she was full of herself and not all that hot. I couldn't
> stand all her exaggerations about her impoverished, "Native American"
> upbringing. She is clearly looking to "trade up" but I do not think she is
> all that.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
She took the tramp route and married her own record producer, kind of
like Mariah Carrey. I couldn't care less what Shania Twain does from
now on.
Mark Morgan
<awle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On May 15, 7:56=A0pm, "Der Komissar" <derkomis...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I always thought she was full of herself and not all that hot. =A0I couldn=
>'t
>> stand all her exaggerations about her impoverished, "Native American"
>> upbringing. =A0She is clearly looking to "trade up" =A0but I do not think =
>she is
>> all that.
>>
>> "Nathan H." <nathan3...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:482ce4a7....@news.easynews.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:05:38 -0700 (PDT), "KingCount...@aol.com (Noah
>> > Tall)" <KingCount...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>On May 15, 12:01=3DEF=3DBF=3DBDpm, Coop <for...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>> Shania Twain & Husband Split
>>
>> >>> Shania Twain and her husband, producer Robert "Mutt" Lange, have
>> >>> split, her rep confirms to PEOPLE.<
>>
>> >>Pretty much inevitable and long overdue, I guess. =A0Having said that,
>> >>what makes this fascinating to me, is what will happen to her music.
>> >>I've always said that a producer is the single most important decision
>> >>you can make as an artist, and to have the success she had, and then
>> >>change producers (I assume) is going to result in a very different
>> >>sounding Shania Twain.
>>
>> >>I'm not a big fan obviously, so I don't know if her music will be
>> >>better or worse, but it will definitely be different. Probably the end
>> >>of the road for mega-success.
>>
>> > After selling more than 10 million with her first two with Mutt, she
>> > 'only' sold about 3 million with the last one. =A0 Plus, as a fan, her
>> > songs started sounding exactly like rejects from her previous two. =A0 I=
>
>> > think Shania (and Mutt) were becoming very creatively stagnant and
>> > from a professional standpoint, its good they won't be working
>> > together anymore. =A0 =A0I don't really care about him, only her and I
>> > think her future should be in adult contemporary radio, not country or
>> > pop. =A0 Sure that wouldn't maximize her sales but I don't think she
>> > would care any more about that. =A0 She's already =A0'made it' in the
>> > music business and now its just about her doing what she wants
>> > musically.
>>
>> > I'm also curious from a male point of view of seeing who she will be
>> > dating in the future. =A0 =A0She's still a major hottie at 42 and I coul=
>d
>> > see her dating much younger male singers or actors. =A0 =A0Plus probably=
>
>> > have an out of wedlock child with one of them. =A0 ;-)- Hide quoted text=
> -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>She took the tramp route and married her own record producer, kind of
>like Mariah Carrey. I couldn't care less what Shania Twain does from
>now on.
But yet, you felt the need to respond to this thread. Go figure!
Merle Barnes
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> I always thought she was full of herself and not all that hot. I couldn't
> stand all her exaggerations about her impoverished, "Native American"
> upbringing. She is clearly looking to "trade up" but I do not think she is
> all that.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I always thought she was full of herself and not all that hot. I
couldn't
> stand all her exaggerations about her impoverished, "Native American"
> upbringing. She is clearly looking to "trade up" but I do not think she is
> all that
I don't think she ever exaggerated. She grew up in a mining town in
northern Ontario where unemployment was quite common. As for being
"Native American", she has never claimed any such thing. Her step-
father is native, and she has always said that he is her true father,
as he was the one to raise her. People just deduced that she was
native as well.
cotton...@yahoo.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
> She took the tramp route and married her own record producer, kind of
> like Mariah Carrey. I couldn't care less what Shania Twain does from
> now on.- Hide quoted text -
Apparently she was quite the accomplished horizontal mambo player back
in the day, before Mutt.
Gary Gervin
<merle...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>She probably felt old age creeping up on her! :-)
>
Ba-Ha-ha-ha-ha!!
B. Peg
>
>>She probably felt old age creeping up on her! :-)
>
> Ba-Ha-ha-ha-ha!!
Mutt needed younger blood. Wasn't he trying to help Britney Spears not too
long ago?
B~
KingCountryI@aol.com (Noah Tall)
>
> Are you certain?
In a word YES. : )
> In the first place, its quite possible that she learned a lot from
> Mutt and by now, its possible that she could produce or even engineer
> her own recordings. <
Please. This is a woman we're talking about. : )
> Its also possible that she couldnt, and left all
> that to him, and never bothered to learn the console and the outboard
> gear and the Pro Tools she depends on.
BINGO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Mutts big deal was that not only is he a superlative engineer, but, he
> has excellent ideas. His layering techniques are unsurpassed and as
> far as i'm concerend, at least partly responsible for Shanias success.<
Exactly. Secondly, I'd be willing to bet part of my vast fortune he
was the one who either picked the songs, or maybe even wrote a lot of
them .
> However now she's established and Shanias core fans wont give a damn
> if her new album sounds like it was recorded in a toilet. They're much
> more interested in what outfit she wears and who she will go to bed with.<
Exactly, but I don't mean to infer that where you record them amonts
to all that much either. You need to re-read that a few times. : ) It
still comes down to the song, and someone has to "get" them and
understand what makes a good country song. Like her or not, "Who's Bed
Have Your Boots Been Under" was a great song, and had EVERYTHING to do
with Shania's success.
Therefore, if Shania Twain elopes with Hank Cochran, Dean Dillon, Alan
Jackson, Ken Mellons, that guy who writes for Chesnutt (Nesler ? ) or
a handful of other guys she could be around a while. If not, she'll be
like Garth Brooks. Nobody will take her seriously, BUT ... you're
right she still might sell a half million copies of her next
cd . : )
mc
mc
Merle Barnes
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KingCountryI@aol.com (Noah Tall)
> Thought this was about a boob job...
>
> mc<
Well, actually ... : )
I mean she DID sell a gazillion CDs. Let's be honest Country Music
fans made legendary sellers out of Shania and Garth Brooks. Clearly
one of the nicer things you could call them would be "boobs" . : )
raoul
>
> - BUT ... you're
> >right she still might sell a half million copies of her next
> >cd . : )
>
>
> This all depends on how much she wants to do. She might be like
> Ronstadt, and decide to more or less retire with her kid and be a
> mommy.
>
I'm not much of a country follower but, since I haven't heard much from
her the last couple of years, I figured that she took her money and was
being comfortable. I don't think she likes to tour, she had as much
money that she needed to live really comfortably (especially
considering her upbringing) so I just figured she was going to hang out
in private.
My prediction is that she *still* will be hanging out in private from
now on. Just Muttless.
KingCountryI@aol.com (Noah Tall)
> >Please. This is a woman we're talking about. �: )
> that doesnt make any difference. <
Please. It makes a HUGE difference. Women were raised to be users, not
creators. Think of a human sponge. Secondly, the FACTS speak for
themselves. With few exceptions, women don't get music, never have,
never will. There have been scientific studies that explain the left
brain/right brain differences.
> Linda Ronstadt knows her way around a console and she produced an excellent David Lindley album. <
Please, Linda Ronstadt ps a Bimbo and only knows her way around a
manicurist's office. Secondly, an "excellent David Lindley album", is
an oxymoron, like "jumbo shrimp" or "military intelligence" . : )
>There are plenty more examples<
Sorry, honey . NOT TRUE ! After Gail Davies, trust me idgit, it's a
VERY, VERY, VERY short list.
>but I suspect they'd be lost on you.<
But thankfully you're here to enlighten us ! Obviously some kind of
higher intelligence, I guess . Just what planet exactly are you living
on this week ?
> i dont think we'll ever know exactly how much Shania "wrote" and how
> much Mutt "wrote". I think an album full of Shania's original song
> ideas BEFORE Mutt got ahold of them would be quite enlightening.<
EXACTLY ! Or the soon to be released album full of Shania's original
song ideas AFTER Mutt showed her the door.
> Boots is a good song, but, if you've ever been to a
> Nashville publishing office or a songwriting venue, good songs in
> nashville are everywhere. Turn on the faucet in your hotel room and
> one comes pouring out. <
ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE .
> So it has to be more than a good song to make
> it. You've got to have the production, the engineering, and probably
> most important, the promotion.<
Again, ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE ! Gretchen Wilson's been in the headlines
this week and she's a classic example. On the other hand nobody has
more clout than Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood and they can barely
get arrested.
>
> This all depends on how much she wants to do. She might be like
> Ronstadt, and decide to more or less retire with her kid and be a mommy.<
Please. You're obviously obsessed with Ronstadt . Do you still have
the altars to her in every room in your trailer ? Get over yourself.
Ronstadt didn't retire , she was kicked to the curb . How many new CDs
do you think Shania will sell if she puts the Ronstadt feed bag on,
and balloons up to 250 lbs ? How many CDs do you think Shania will
cut with Nelson Riddle and his string section ? How many CDs do you
think Shania will cut of Native American War Chants for her father/
step - father ?
Ronstadt was/is a very cruel, self serving, bimbo . End of story.
Steve Martin who certainly has no axe to grind, touched on some of it
in his book. She was no different than Shania , in that a lot/most of
her success was based on her looks, and when her looks disappeared, so
did her sales.
Lefty
The native controversy stem from remarks Shania made about her mother
telling her she had native blood. Her family, however, denies it, and
since the mother is dead, who knows what the truth is.
byrdman
Shania was adopted by her stepfather jerry twain. He was an Ojibwe
Indian. Under Canadian law, that meant that Shania was considered to be
an Ojibwe. In addition, she was very involved growing up with her
stepfather's family. So on both accounts she very much saw herself as
part of that native american tribe.
KingCountryI@aol.com (Noah Tall)
>> Linda Ronstadt is a good singer.
> Shania? queen of auto-tune- <
Who cares ? Do you have ANY idea how many people use auto-tune ?
Secondly,I don't go to a lot of concerts, so it's not much of an
issue.
Finally, for the 1,000,000th time it still comes down to the
SONG !!!!!!!!! Apparently you watch too much American Idol. : )
KingCountryI@aol.com (Noah Tall)
>
> Does your wife know you hate women?<
Just MOST of them . : ) I married HER didn't I ? LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Besides, don't act like I'm ANY different than anyone else. : ) You
can believe what your boyfriend tells you, but I've been there with
him when you leave ! : )
> ok, before i ignore you for being a troll and a retard, I've met dave
> Lindley, seen him play three times, and I absolutely guarantee you,
> he's a thousand times the musician you are.<
WOW ! How COOL !!!!!!!!!!!! Did you get his autograph ? : )
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, I hardly know who Dave Lindley is, and since he's not
countrty I hate him too ! : )
Bottom line, if Linda Romstadt helped him, he must have been getting
in her pants. Linda Ronstadt doesn't do 'favors" .