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Lisa Kemper

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Nov 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/13/95
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I've heard that Mary Chapin Carpenter is engaged to Mike
McAdam... Can anyone tell me if they have actually gotten
married?

- lisa


BostonFred

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Nov 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/13/95
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Lisa Kemper <li...@mcs.com> writes:

And just who the hell is Mike McAdam?

Sincerely,
Jealous in Massachusetts

Ana Liza Gracie

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bosto...@aol.com (BostonFred) writes:
>
>Lisa Kemper <li...@mcs.com> writes:
>>I've heard that Mary Chapin Carpenter is engaged to Mike
>>McAdam... Can anyone tell me if they have actually gotten
>>married?
>
>And just who the hell is Mike McAdam?

A guitarist. He's played with her in some TV appearances, and he's listed
in the credits for a few songs on _Come_On_Come_On_.

I don't have any info about their current relationship, because it's none
of my business.

>Sincerely,
>Jealous in Massachusetts

Get over it.

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Mike Blanche

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In article <48alle$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Blakbaa <bla...@aol.com> wrote:
>I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Not _that_ thread again... it should be given it's own newsgroup it is
such a recurring rumour.

Fact: there is no evidence that Mary Chapin Carpenter is, has ever been,
or ever will be, homosexual. (not that there would be anything wrong with
it if she was).

Can we close the subject (again) ?


mike

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Ana Liza Gracie

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bla...@aol.com (Blakbaa) writes:
>I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.

Let's just stop this right now. NO ONE respond to this thread.

No, she is not a lesbian. At least she wasn't one a few years ago
when she and John Jennings had a relationship, which they will freely
talk about.

This whole MCC lesbian thing is a rumor that crops up in this newsgroup
every few months; it usually seems to be brought up by someone that
doesn't like MCC, as if accusing her of being queer will somehow tarnish
her image. Whatever the motivation, it's a rumor, and rumors just suck.
This one usually drags this newsgroup into a big ugly flame war.

She might be bisexual. She might be heterosexual. She may be a lesbian
who just realized it lately. She might be celibate. It's none of our
business, and if you want to know whom she is or isn't sleeping with,
you'll have to ask her yourself.

So let it die. Now. If you must reply, do it via e-mail, to
schn...@maroon.tc.umn.edu. Thank you.

Adam

Scott Harpster 462-4870 SMH0

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vbo...@usa1.com (Victoria A. Bolles) wrote:
>In article <48alle$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,

>bla...@aol.com (Blakbaa) wrote:
>
>>I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.
>
>Oh, saints preserve us, not THAT one again! This subject has been beaten to
>a bloody pulp in this newsgroup. Anyone who can listen carefully to the
>content of MCC's songs and still think she's interested in women as more
>than friends is more than welcome to this fantasy.
>
>Just my 2 cents,
>
>Victoria
>
>

Excuse me if I'm wrong here, but the contents of ones recorded songs does not
in any way speak for their sexual orientation. Just ask Ty Herndon...

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Victoria A. Bolles

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Juddhead

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In article <48alle$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, bla...@aol.com (Blakbaa) wrote:

> I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.


Nice going. And just where did you hear it? From Ms. Carpenter herself?
From her publicist? On "Hard Copy"? "A Current Affair"? More likely,
from someone reading a trashbloid in a checkout line at the supermarket?

And this tidbit comes from the same self-proclaimed Billy Ray Cyrus fan
who just posted all over the place in r.m.c.w. about how Billy Ray Cyrus
fans are so much maligned, and unjustly so, because in reality they are
truly sensitive and respectful of other artists and their fans and are
careful about not slamming or spreading rumors against artists they do not
like, unlike so many other people in the newsgroup. The true colors
always bleed through in the end, don't they?

hsm...@connix.com

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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> bla...@aol.com (Blakbaa) writes:
> I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.
>
>>>>


one of the reasons I very rarely read this newsgroup is because of posts like this from the very uninformed and the obviously diluted
brain power like this


STEVE COHEN

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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Hi Scott-
I agree with you. A song does not tell you the sexual
orientation of a person. And on the other hand, who cares if she is a
lesbien or not? It is her business what her sexual preferences are and
we have no right to say what we feel anyway, right? Good for you for
standing up to nosy and ignorant people. The next time someone says
something about it, tell them to listen to "I feel lucky" -....In the
corner with his hand up on my thigh! BYE!_Jennifer

Richard Whipple

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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>> I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.
>>

Wow!!!. Folks sure do get jumpy and super defensive when this comes up.

Wonder why?


Mike Blanche

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LCarr34378

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Who cares who she sleeps with. Is is important for that categorizing
brain of yours? Pretty small I think.

Kelly Shuldberg

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In article <48alle$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Blakbaa <bla...@aol.com> wrote:
>I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.

AAAARRRGGGHHHH!

h. kelly shuldberg
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Dr. Mellow

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Nov 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/16/95
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Lisa Kemper (li...@mcs.com) wrote:
>I've heard that Mary Chapin Carpenter is engaged to Mike
>McAdam... Can anyone tell me if they have actually gotten
>married?

No, she's married to me.

Oh, wait. That's only in my dreams. Damn!

-greg

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Linda F. Cauthen

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Nov 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/16/95
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>> I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.
>>

>>Wow!!!. Folks sure do get jumpy and super defensive when this comes up.

Wonder why?<<

Maybe because this rumor has been floating around for years and her fans (and
just about everyone lese who's been listening to country music for more than
six months) is tired of it by now. The people who post stuff like this as
though it were hot news will probably next be breathlessly informing us that
Johnny Cash used to have a drug problem.


Glupot

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Nov 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/16/95
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This particular idiocy tends to crop up whenever an awards show is
imminent or MCC has passed another career milestone, and the poster wants
to dilute MCC's contribution to music and country music. Uh oh, what's
this? On Wednesday, MCC received this year's Billboard Award for best
country video for "Shut Up and Kiss Me." So, I guess the MCC detractors
will fade away until the Grammy nominations are announced.

Dr. Mellow

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Misty Dawn Bowen (mdb...@unity.ncsu.edu) wrote:
>Dr. Mellow (drme...@catt.ncsu.edu) wrote:

>: Lisa Kemper (li...@mcs.com) wrote:
>: >I've heard that Mary Chapin Carpenter is engaged to Mike
>: >McAdam... Can anyone tell me if they have actually gotten
>: >married?

>: No, she's married to me.

>: Oh, wait. That's only in my dreams. Damn!

>: -greg

>WAIT A MINUTE BUDDY!!!!!!
>You shouldn't have MCC on your mind, it should be me.
>Keep that in mind a couple of years from now. Or better yet, this weekend.
>*grins*

Damn....

I knew I should have never taught my girlfriend how to use a newsreader.

-greg

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Spud101

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Nov 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/17/95
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Mary Chapin-Carpenter is a very talented singer/songwriter.
What does her sexual preference have to do with anything???

Blakbaa

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Was this really necessary???

eireann

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BPS...@prodigy.com (Richard Whipple) wrote:
>
> >> I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.
> >>
>
> Wow!!!. Folks sure do get jumpy and super defensive when this comes up.
>
> Wonder why?

I don't know, maybe because it really doesn't affect her music whether
she is or she isn't, even though it has become apparent that she isn't,
or she wasn't, and if she was, who would care?

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Roland Murphy

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Nov 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/17/95
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In article <48dn1b$1...@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>, jql...@is2.nyu.edu (John Lee) wrote:

> Let's all take a DEEP breath...and grow up.
> Since when is wondering if someone is a lesbian a slam or an
> indication that someone doesn't like an artist? If I wondered if Alan
> Jackson was bald, would that be a slam? I hope not. Blakbaa was probably


Well, John,

I think you stopped reading the previous post too early. It said:

" careful about not slamming or spreading rumors against artists..."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think this is the part that applies to the original thread. No
one I have seen took it as a slam on MCC, but it most definitely is
spreading a rumor that true or not, we do not need to go through for the
10000th time here.

> just curious and people take it as if MCC being a lesbian would be some
> awful, vicious trick of fate that would lower her abilities in the eyes
> of OH SO many people and ruin her character forever. I think not.


Again, I think you are guilty of jumping off the deep end here,
too. I haven't read anything in any of the threads so far where it seems
like anyone has a problem with Mary Chapin being whoever and whatever she
wants to be. You are obviously very new to this newsgroup if you can't
understand that people here are tired of the kind of threads that a
statement like the first guy's will start up. The last time someone
posted the very same, word for word statement about MCC in this group it
sprouted several stupid threads which lasted for months. I think most of
us were very happy to see them finally die off.

And, by the way, I have been lurking and have noticed that the
"Blakbaa" person you are defending is doing a pretty good job of what I
would call "slamming" and stirring things up in a couple of other threads
floating around in this group right now. If you pay closer attention, it
is usually pretty easy to see what some people's real intentions are.


> And you're pretty right about how true colors bleed through in
> the end. They certainly did in your case.
>
> -Johhny,
> fed up with all the crap.


Well, "Johhny", with this you have showed us yours, too. Is it
because maybe you are so worked up about the thread because you are one of
them Billy Ray Cyrus fans, or you are gay yourself, or both?

*lurk mode back on*
...murph

Misty Dawn Bowen

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Dr. Mellow (drme...@catt.ncsu.edu) wrote:

: Misty Dawn Bowen (mdb...@unity.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: >Dr. Mellow (drme...@catt.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: >: Lisa Kemper (li...@mcs.com) wrote:
: >: >I've heard that Mary Chapin Carpenter is engaged to Mike
: >: >McAdam... Can anyone tell me if they have actually gotten
: >: >married?

: >: No, she's married to me.

: >: Oh, wait. That's only in my dreams. Damn!

: >: -greg

: >WAIT A MINUTE BUDDY!!!!!!
: >You shouldn't have MCC on your mind, it should be me.
: >Keep that in mind a couple of years from now. Or better yet, this weekend.
: >*grins*

: Damn....

: I knew I should have never taught my girlfriend how to use a newsreader.

: -greg


That wouldn't be the only mistake that you've made. Let's see...
The above post would add another to that list.

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Blakbaa

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Ok, look, I did not mean to ruffle anyone's feathers here. I just
repeated something that I had heard and everyone just jumped on the band
wagon to lynch me! I'M SORRY! My God! I personally don't care what MCC
is or does. She could be purple and I could care less. If you notice, I
did write just what I heard. This establishes that it is not a known
fact. I think that should say it all..If I had tried to establish it as
fact, then I could see people getting pissy. I didn't mean to piss anyone
off, and if I did, well then I'm sorry. I did not mean any disrespect by
my comment. It was just a comment, some words typed on a screen. That's
all, nothing more. Just, please, get off my butt about it. Let's just
act like adults here and drop the subject. End this "war" and move on
with your lives. Better things will come along than flaming someone for
making one lousey comment on a person. Can we all agree on that?

Melanie

Mike Miller

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Hoping to shed some light on the situation, Lisa Kemper <li...@mcs.com>
wrote:

>I've heard that Mary Chapin Carpenter is engaged to Mike
>McAdam... Can anyone tell me if they have actually gotten
>married?

>- lisa

You know, Lisa, with all the dozen or so posts in this thread, I don't
think you did get an answer to your question.... :) Funny how things
work out. I don't know the answer myself, but in the credits of her CD
_Stones In The Road_, there is no mention of a husband.

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遙Mike Miller垂
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Mike Blanche

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In article <48ijhf$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Blakbaa <bla...@aol.com> wrote:
>Was this really necessary???

Probably not, but I don't suppose your reply was either. (come to think of
it, this reply probably isn't necessary either). Can we just shut up about
this now, as most are sick of the petty bickering that this has descended
into (again).

mike
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John Lee

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Roland Murphy (rjmu...@cybersurfer.org) wrote:

(FIRST POINT OF CONTENTION)

: Well, John,

: I think you stopped reading the previous post too early. It said:

: " careful about not slamming or spreading rumors against artists..."
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: I think this is the part that applies to the original thread. No
: one I have seen took it as a slam on MCC, but it most definitely is
: spreading a rumor that true or not, we do not need to go through for the
: 10000th time here.

Look, the very original poster was asking whether or not MCC was
married to Mike McAdam or not. That's all she asked. Then someone
innocently asked (at least that's how it appeared to me) if MCC was a
lesbian and that's when everything got out of hand. The way some (not all)
people replied made it seem like wondering if MCC was a lesbian was akin to
asking if the Pope was a pedophile. People DID take it as an attack.
I point out the wording that YOU so kindly highlighted: it says
"spreading rumors AGAINST artists." The person I was replying to
unmistakably implied that spreading a rumor about MCC possibly being a
lesbian was a rumor AGAINST Mary Chapin Carpenter. That's what I was
responding to: the poster implied that the lesbian rumor was something
detrimental and I answered that line of thought.

(SECOND POINT OF CONTENTION)

I've been lurking on this newsgroup for over two years and I've
read what Blakbaa has written. Some of it may have been just trolling,
but if it was, it was poor trolling. VERY POOR trolling. He's a total
busher in the trolling world. I'm aware of what goes on in this group,
okay? I'm no newbie, newfie, newpie, Newtie, or necktie.

(THIRD POINT OF CONTENTION)

: > And you're pretty right about how true colors bleed through in

: > the end. They certainly did in your case.
: >
: > -Johhny,
: > fed up with all the crap.

: Well, "Johhny", with this you have showed us yours, too. Is it
: because maybe you are so worked up about the thread because you are one of
: them Billy Ray Cyrus fans, or you are gay yourself, or both?

First off, I did make a petty, insulting remark based on the end
of the article I responded to. That was hasty but I was frustrated with the
ignorance that I saw in that article. The article, UNQUESTIONABLY in my
mind, made being a lesbian sound like something bad. The rumor is
ENTIRELY UNTRUE and dolled out entirely too many times by people that are
new. But people considering it as a rumor that goes "against" MCC...? I don't
think so. That ain't right.
Secondly (but quite a bit redundantly), I did not get worked up
over the "thread," okay? I was directing my comments at the poster I
responded to and THAT'S ALL. I was responding to his thoughts, or at
least the way he represented those thoughts through his words. I was
responding to the ignorance I especially saw in his opinion.
Finally, "...murph", I don't understand what the hell Billy Ray Cyrus
has to do with all this. I've never even heard one of Billy Ray's songs,
just so you know, and if you're talking about Blakbaa's love of Billy
Ray, then you need to get yourself a reality check at Dr.Sledgehammer's
office. I wasn't defending Blakbaa. I was defending the words "I heard
MCC is a lesbian...just what I heard," or whatever it was that got this
damn mess started, and poster of those words be damned. It could have
been MCC's evil twin that posted those words but to me, they sounded
like AN INNOCENT QUESTION.
I'm not gay, but so what if I were? What I am dealing with here,
is the problem of ignorance, not homosexuality, not heterosexuality, or
anything that narrow. Look, there is no homo or hetero; there
is no black and white; there is no man and woman. There is only IGNORANCE
and INTELLIGENCE. Hitler killed 30 million white people that were
essentially no different from him: they were human beings. At the same
time, thousands of black babies will die in the next few days in Africa
because their black leaders will not allow them to have the food to
survive. A heterosexual man will beat his wife, and a homosexual man will
beat his lover. IN THE END, THERE IS ONLY IGNORANCE AND INTELLIGENCE.
Yeah, I'll drag out that quickly tiring line and say that your
true colors bled through, too. And you know, you're right. I definitely
showed mine.
But you know what the difference is?

I can be proud of mine.


-Joh"h"ny,
Stars and stripes forever.

Blakbaa

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In article <48jcia$d...@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>, jql...@is2.nyu.edu (John Lee)
writes:

> Blakbaa's love of Billy
>Ray, then you need to get yourself a reality check at Dr.Sledgehamm

I don't "love" Billy...

And I thought I said that I was sorry....Jesus Christ change the damn
subject all ready!

adam

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Mr. whipple:

You are a loser


SGHO...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu

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Nov 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/22/95
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Once and for all folks - Mary Chapin was engaged for years but a few months
back was dumped - it was in People Magazine. Quit spreading rumors about
her and get a life.
In article <48uhm1$g...@sam.inforamp.net>
ae...@inforamp.net (Tex) writes:


>
>In article <656732158...@vine.org>, Linda_F....@vine.org (Linda F. Cauthen) says:
>>
>>>> I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.
>>>>
>>
>>>>Wow!!!. Folks sure do get jumpy and super defensive when this comes up.
>>
>>Wonder why?<<
>>
>>Maybe because this rumor has been floating around for years and her fans (and
>>just about everyone lese who's been listening to country music for more than
>>six months) is tired of it by now. The people who post stuff like this as
>>though it were hot news will probably next be breathlessly informing us that
>>Johnny Cash used to have a drug problem.
>>
>>Hey! Keep this stuff coming!
>
>It makes every Steve Earle fan feel good!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Blakbaa

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Nov 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/23/95
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In article <1745E9D38S...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>,
SGHO...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu writes:

>>It makes every Steve Earle fan feel good!

Who the heck is Steve Earle???

Mike Blanche

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The above comes from AOL. Why does that not surprise me?

mike

Country Connection: the web's #1 country music site:
http://digiserve.com/country

Mike Miller

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Hoping to shed some light on the situation, hke...@swcp.com (Kelly
Shuldberg) wrote:

>In article <48alle$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Blakbaa <bla...@aol.com> wrote:

>>I heard Mary Chapin Carpenter is a lesbian.....just what I heard.

>AAAARRRGGGHHHH!

Whoa! Easy Kelly. Now take a deep breath, and count to 10. :)

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Jeff & Jenny

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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In article <492umi$o...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, 94...@eng.cam.ac.uk says...

>
>In article <491p6f$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Blakbaa <bla...@aol.com>
wrote:
>>In article <1745E9D38S...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>,
>>SGHO...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu writes:
>>
>>>>It makes every Steve Earle fan feel good!
>>
>>Who the heck is Steve Earle???
>
>The above comes from AOL. Why does that not surprise me?
>
>mike
>--
mike,

Jeff & Jenny

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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In article <492umi$o...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, 94...@eng.cam.ac.uk says...
>
>In article <491p6f$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Blakbaa <bla...@aol.com>
wrote:
>>In article <1745E9D38S...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>,
>>SGHO...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu writes:
>>
>>>>It makes every Steve Earle fan feel good!
>>
>>Who the heck is Steve Earle???
>
>The above comes from AOL. Why does that not surprise me?
>
>mike

Mike,
I think Steve Earle is a bit too classy of Redneck music for AOLers.
Shouldn't they be listening to Allison Krauss doing remakes of Steve's
greatest hits?
Jeff
>--

Adam

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bla...@aol.com (Blakbaa) wrote:

>>>It makes every Steve Earle fan feel good!

>Who the heck is Steve Earle???

> Country singer, addicted to heroin since he was 13.. He's clean now and just appeared on the Marty Party
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Taylor Roberts

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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In article <49dqbs$p...@pellew.ntu.edu.au> sde...@dme.nt.gov.au writes:

>As to the person who knew nothing of Steve Earle, shame on you. I
>come from the
>Northern Territory and Kimberley Region of Australia. I grew up on
>(cattle) stations
>and live the good life, so to speak, of dust, blood, sweat, and country music.
>I must say, when it comes to Steve Earle, there wasnt a person around
>who didnt
>know the words to every song....

It seems as if Steve Earle has a bigger following outside of his own
country than inside it. I know that in Canada Steve is fairly
popular--I notice also that he's taken some interest in Canadian
things, too.

Taylor Roberts <trob...@mit.edu>

Sarah Debney

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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As to the person who knew nothing of Steve Earle, shame on you. I come from the
Northern Territory and Kimberley Region of Australia. I grew up on (cattle) stations
and live the good life, so to speak, of dust, blood, sweat, and country music.
I must say, when it comes to Steve Earle, there wasnt a person around who didnt
know the words to every song. So ladies and gentleman, attention please, come in close
so everyone can see............................


Ellaree Beaty Philippen

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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Steve Earle is a country-rock (sort of hard to classify)
singer and songwriter who was real big a few years back, then
kind of disappeared because of personal problems. Now he's back
and has a great new accoustic album ("Train a-comin'") and another
coming out in a month or so.

He is from Texas and plays a mean guitar and also mandolin.
His songs are very unusual, but with universal themes that can touch
everyone. Listen closely to the words!!

Lots of people are doing his songs now: the Highwaymen,
Emmylou Harris, and Travis Tritt to name a few.

So run right out and give him a listen!

I guess the reference to him in the MCC marital status post
had to do with his 6 marriages or drug problems in the past.


ebrooks

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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bla...@aol.com (Blakbaa) wrote:
>
> Will someone please answer my question???? Who the heck is Steve Earle???

Umm, only one of the best country *songwriters* there is. His songs
have been covered by many, most notably Shawn Colvin's wonderful
version of "Someday" and the version of "Reckless Heart" she does live;
he's admired by many of today's artists, including Kim Richey. He
had some drug problems in the eighties, but his "Guitar Town" is
generally recognized as one of the best; current release is, I think,
"Train A-Comin".

And you didn't answer, if I recall, when I asked *where* exactly
you had heard the rumor that you posted in the previous "MCC's
Marital Status" thread.

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Blakbaa

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In article <49ebhs$c...@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, el...@wam.umd.edu (Ellaree
Beaty Philippen) writes:

> I guess the reference to him in the MCC marital status post
>had to do with his 6 marriages or drug problems in the past.


That's the part that confused me. I couldn't figure out why he was
mentioned with MCC. Everyone and their mother has been sending me
information on Steve Earle, and even with all the information given, I
still couldn't make the connection. It all makes sense now! To everyone
that sent me all that they knew, thank you. I have been enlightened. You
learn something new every day!

God bless

dha...@netpass.com

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In article <493b59$s...@news.worldlinx.com> mike....@eclec.com (Mike Miller) writes:
>From: mike....@eclec.com (Mike Miller)
>Subject: Re: Mary Chapin Carpenter's marital status?
>Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 02:38:26 GMT

>>AAAARRRGGGHHHH!

>--
> 遙Mike Miller垂
>遙mike....@eclec.com


Now there is nothing wrong with being a lesbian. Many great artists are,
actors also like

KD Lang
Melissa Ethridge
Lilly Tomlin
Amanda Berese (Married W/ Children's Marcy)

Not to mention many many more.

What difference does it make. The important thing is they are all wonderful
entertainers and it doesnt matter what they do in their private lives.

In no way am I verifying MCC's sexual preferance, just letting you know its
okay if she is. It doesnt matter.


theTone

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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In article <49dqbs$p...@pellew.ntu.edu.au> sde...@dme.nt.gov.au (Sarah Debney) writes:
>From: sde...@dme.nt.gov.au (Sarah Debney)
>Subject: Re: Steve Earle (was: MCC's marital stuff)
>Date: 28 Nov 1995 01:58:20 GMT
And if you believe that, we're gonna get along just fine!

theTone

ebrooks

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Dec 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/1/95
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> Lilly Tomlin

Where did you hear *that*? Not that there would be anything wrong with
it, but I really think you're wrong there. She was so *convincing* in
Short Cuts with Tom Waits, really...



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STEVE COHEN

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Dec 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/1/95
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AMEN! who cares what her sexual preference is?? She is one hell of an
entertainer!!!! I am glad someone besides myself had the guts to say
it!! JEn

JLizKenn

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Dec 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/2/95
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dhayes writes: ...it's okay if she is. It doesnt matter.

Of course it matters. All those artists you mentioned
are *out,* which makes all the difference in the world.

I do get annoyed with myself for posting to threads like this one.
Like others have said, it would in some ways be much better for
it to just die before any more harm is done.

But there are strong forces fueling intrusive questions
about an artist’s sexual preferences, things that are even stronger than
the arguable right of an artist to keep her private life private while
selling millions of albums full of songs about emotions and attractions
and the ethical minefields of passion. If men who like her thought they
had
reason to believe she wouldn’t like them back (never mind that they’re not

likely to ever meet in this lifetime!) many of them would feel like chumps
for
buying her albums, and her sales to men and hetero women would
fall. Not so hard to see why, but it would be lose-lose: her career
would
suffer without her having done anything to deserve it, and many people
who used to enjoy her act would back away from it and couldn’t let
themselves enjoy it anymore.

In MCC’s case, the question I think is fueled by her strong,
unaccommodating
stage presence. She appeals to women in general, and to thinking men, and
does
it without having grown up in the genre (she’s “Gone Country,” going
against
the grain of all fans who believe that unless you grew up on a farm or
at least in the South, “You can like country but you can’t *be* country”)
and her stage costumes are not designed to threaten women or arouse men.
No display of cleavage, sequins or big hair, nothing tight. She comes
across as
someone who dresses to please herself: comfortable, not distracting. You
can
pay better attention to the songs that way.

Some of her work is a sock in the jaw to family values as defined by the
right
arm of the industry. She’s got her own brand of the stuff. Guys who feel
uncomfortable at concert footage of women dancing in their seats to a
rollicking
celebration of a woman with three little kids pulling out on a soul-dead
marriage -- well, okay, be uncomfortable. But also be aware that “He
Thinks
He’ll Keep Her” was co-written by Don Schlitz, a mainstay of the Nashville
songwriting establishment ever since Rogers recorded “The Gambler.”

For those who only have a few big boxes that they’re comfortable
putting everybody into, it would put a lot of unease to rest, and justify
a lot
of hostility, if these nasty and persistent rumors turned out to have
basis in reality.

I say nasty because I don’t think they’re being spread by anyone who
means her well.

-- Joan

OOhKay

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I totally agree!! Mary Chapin is awesome no matter what.

James D Robins

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Mike Blanche (94...@eng.cam.ac.uk) wrote:

> In article <491p6f$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Blakbaa <bla...@aol.com> wrote:
> >In article <1745E9D38S...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>,
> >SGHO...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu writes:
> >
> >>>It makes every Steve Earle fan feel good!
> >
> >Who the heck is Steve Earle???

> The above comes from AOL. Why does that not surprise me?

> mike

Did someone say, "Who the heck is Steve Earle"?

Take my advice and NEVER come to Texas.

Steve Earle is a super picker (Guitar Town) and writer (Sometimes She
Forgets).

jim n tejas

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ebrooks

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What a well-written, nicely thought-out post. <being sincere for
once...>


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Rachel Greeley

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well said!


Dawn Matheson

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Dec 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/5/95
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Could you tell me if there' a Steve Earle Fan Club or where i
could purchase sheet music for some of his songs?

Thanks.
>==========James D Robins, 12/2/95==========


Dawn Matheson
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Xena

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Dec 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/5/95
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ah...@rgfn.epcc.edu (James D Robins) wrote:
>
> Steve Earle is a super picker (Guitar Town) and writer (Sometimes She
> Forgets).
>

I don't think Sometimes was a great example of his work...I hate Travis
Tritt, anyway, but the song just wasn't that great. Personally, I
love Someday...as long as Shawn Colvin's singing it. And she does
a great Reckless Heart <isn't that the title?> in her live shows...

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Macgordon

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Dec 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/5/95
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I would find it very difficult to believe that an artist born of the same
musical cloth as her admitted idols Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Mary Travers,
Joni Mitchell, and other artists as Judy Henske and Carolyn Hester, would
write and sing songs that were not the complete truth. MCC's songs
reflect a heterosexual attitude and I refuse to believe that she would be
party to "musical fraud" just to make Columbia happy. In a recent public
radio interview that originated in Europe, Baez talked of her affection
for young artists such as Dar Williams, Indigo Girls, and MCC. Would
Joan Baez have anything nice to say about someone who deliberately skewed
the lyrics of a song just to make the public masses happy? No way. It's
a great talent whose work can appeal to such a diverse audience.

16b...@waikato.ac.nz

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Dec 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/6/95
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Xena <eir...@qnet.com> writes:
>
> Personally, I love Someday...as long as Shawn Colvin's singing it.
> And she does a great Reckless Heart <isn't that the title?> in her
> live shows...
>

Not if'n you're referrin' to _Fearless Heart_ t'ain't.


- pleb retort


mccfan

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Dec 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/10/95
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16b...@waikato.ac.nz wrote:

> Not if'n you're referrin' to _Fearless Heart_ t'ain't.

I knew I had that title wrong.



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