I hope somebody shoves it up Garth's ass
a
the arrogant, vile comments he's made to Billboard online. Now he has
his hype machine running into on overdrive for his new crap music.
from Billboard-online.com:
"The plan to create multiple editions of "Double Live" is an expansion
of an idea Brooks and the label used for "Sevens." For that album, a
limited number of 777,777 copies were emblazoned with a gold metallic
seal. This time, 1 million limited editions were manufactured, each
with a silver heat transfer. Each subsequent million units carries
different CD booklet artwork, CD artwork, liner notes, and cover. For
example, the limited edition features photos spanning Brooks' career.
Another version features a cover and artwork from Brooks' Central Park
shows, while another spotlights his Irish concerts. The songs and
running order remain the same for all editions. There are six CD
versions and one cassette version.
I've wanted to do different covers ever since I was in college and saw
a Cher album that had different covers on it," says Brooks. "So I
wondered if I could talk my label into making the album's artwork
change with every million copies from milestone to milestone, from
Central Park to Dublin to Dallas Stadium.
While many fans will see the various editions as an opportunity to buy
one with a front cover of a concert they may have seen, Brooks knows
critics will complain that he's using the different editions to drive
up album sales. With 82 million units sold, Brooks is the top-selling
solo album artist in U.S. history.
"Here's the deal," says Brooks. "If there was a different song on each
edition, people would have to buy all seven to get all the music. But I
think the most important thing here, and it always has been, is the
music. So people can buy the entire music package in one package, all
for $13.99. Now if anyone wants to tell me that I'm holding a gun to
somebody's head and they have to go out and get the other ones, you
know, they can virtually stick it up their ass for all I care."
What a smelly turd of a man.
Stella
Scott
Thanks for posting this Stella. What is he running, a "collect all 6"
scheme? And what an arrogant comment he makes about it. I am so glad I
don't like his music. For one thing, his little schemes turn me off.
There are some artists that I like to think I have all their recordings.
If I were trying to do this with Garth's music, I would feel a collection
wasn't complete if I didn't have all six--yet I would feel completely
ripped off to have to buy all 6 just because the packaging is different.
But how do you know he wouldn't *like* a box set up there?
Mary Smolkovich
covers......what's the big deal? The man
majored in marketing in college...he takes
an interest in these things. He's a visionary, like Ted Turner......he
needs
new challenges. Geez, give the guy a
break.
Maggie
Nshvlbrat
-Brat
Cats and women will do as they please....
dogs and men should relax and get used to it.
Craig Franck
>There are some artists that I like to think I have all their recordings.
>If I were trying to do this with Garth's music, I would feel a collection
>wasn't complete if I didn't have all six--yet I would feel completely
>ripped off to have to buy all 6 just because the packaging is different.
Only an out of control idiot would by 6 CDs because they felt
compelled to even though they thought it was a rip off,
especially when you consider the music's the same on each one.
There are drugs they can give you to stop this type of behavior.
And don't forget to get the cassette version because the artwork
is different on that one to.
--
Craig
clfr...@worldnet.att.net
Manchester, NH
*plonk* right back at ya! -- "Country Boy"
a
<westsi...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom> writes:
>There are some artists that I like to think I have all their
recordings. If I were trying to do this with Garth's music, I would
feel a collection wasn't complete if I didn't have all six--yet I would
feel completely ripped off to have to buy all 6 just because the
packaging is different.
>
>But how do you know he wouldn't *like* a box set up there?
This whole article is about how important it is for Garth to sell a
million copies or more THE FIRST DAY. It's become Garth and Quigley's
obsession. Why?
The answer is that this is their gig for hogging the spotlight, taking
it away from other country artists, including other acts on their own
label.
In a fragile country music market, all the hoopla is focusing on Garth
again. Instead of spending money on other country records coming out
this fall, Garth-Quigley want consumers to spend it on them. In other
words, cannabalize the market. Make other acts fail. Spend as much on
payola and PR as possible. Prop up Garth by destroying the competition.
Oh, yeah, the big competition is on their own label, Deana Carter.
Notice how she's got lost in the shuffle. Notice how Quigley takes out
full-page ads in Billboard that say nothing about her?
You know, there's really no room in Garth ass for anything except
Quigley's head.
Stella
MtnDewYUM
There you go, insulting yourself again.
It's a BUSINESS Stella. Business isn't about giving people feelings of the
"warm fuzzies." It's about profit. If you think you're going to change that
about country music, then you're very dillusional.
-Julie
"Lalalalalalala.....**ZAP**.....AAAUUUUGGGGHHH!!!"
LAWfan1
a wrote:
> What a smelly turd of a man.
>
> Stella
Stella you have finally made some sense. Garth has gotten really greedy
trying
to sell that many different editions of the same piece of music. Even
though the
list of songs is exactly the same, to get the whole collection you will
have to buy 6 CD's
and one cassette. He had absolutely no business talking to billboard
magazine
like that. It sure looks like he's lost control to me
.James
br...@caverock.co.nz
That is really disgusting even for you Richard. Are you Ken Starr or what?.
If you are going to put a story up , put the whole story, not just the bits
you want people to hear. You really sicken me, that has got to be the worst
thing someone who writes can do.For those open minded people who like the
truth, and not a wanker like Richard, you can read the whole story at
http://www.billboard.com
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Scott <westsi...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom> wrote:
> scheme? And what an arrogant comment he makes about it. I am so glad I
> don't like his music. For one thing, his little schemes turn me off.
>
> If I were trying to do this with Garth's music, I would feel a collection
> wasn't complete if I didn't have all six--yet I would feel completely
> ripped off to have to buy all 6 just because the packaging is different.
>
> But how do you know he wouldn't *like* a box set up there?
>
http://www.billboard.com not just Richard's version of it. Unless you think
Richard has more knowledge of the music scene than billboard.
a
<"jshe...@bellsouth.net"@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> writes:
>
>
> Stella you have finally made some sense. Garth has gotten really
greedy trying to sell that many different editions of the same piece
of music. Even though the list of songs is exactly the same, to get the
whole collection you will have to buy 6 CD's and one cassette. He had
absolutely no business talking to billboard magazine like that. It sure
looks like he's lost control to me
Thank you, James. I knew Garth was getting out of control when he sent
part of his police force to attack me. Now he is getting even worst.
Stella
a
>That is really disgusting even for you Richard. Are you Ken Starr or
what?. If you are going to put a story up , put the whole story, not
just the bits you want people to hear. You really sicken me, that has
got to be the worst thing someone who writes can do.For those open
minded people who like the truth, and not a wanker like Richard, you
can read the whole story at
>http://www.billboard.com
Nobody wants to read all the hype Garth spews.
I am editing down's Garth's garbage so it can fit inside people's
heads.
Stella
a
(Rockabi101) writes:
>For those who are completists it adds spice and variety to the
colleciton (similar to Elvis collectors who want all the label
varieties of each 45.). For others., it is a curiosity but nothing
more. Good idea, Garth.
It's not the variety I mind. It's all the gadgetry and gismos in place
of candor and truth. You know, a lot of valid points have been raised
here and elsewhere about the commercialism and greed in country music.
We've talked about the all-whiteness of it, at a time when black
artists are dominating the charts. We've talked about what's happening
at Garth's label, why John Berry left, why Tanya sued. We've talked
about pop crossover and lack of airplay for legends. We've talked about
Quigley's payola schemes and how they're driving smaller labels out.
We've talked about whether artists like Shania are good for the genre,
and why artists like Lucinda Williams can't get played.
Garth wants to get his message out. But he doesn't want to sit down and
talk honestly with fans about what's on our mind. Everything's rigged
for maximum hype and zero candor. Nobody knows what Garth really
thinks, where his ideas are. And people do care about these things, if
only because Garth could be influential in saving our music. Instead,
he's become a symbol for all that's shallow, manipulative and
stonewalling.
When Garth tells fans who criticize him to "stick it up your ass," he's
really saying he's scared to face the truth.
Stella
Scott
>
> Scott wrote:
>
> >There are some artists that I like to think I have all their recordings.
> >If I were trying to do this with Garth's music, I would feel a collection
> >wasn't complete if I didn't have all six--yet I would feel completely
> >ripped off to have to buy all 6 just because the packaging is different.
>
> compelled to even though they thought it was a rip off,
> especially when you consider the music's the same on each one.
That's right. I suppose Garth knows he has lots of fans like this. I'm
glad I'm not among them.
> There are drugs they can give you to stop this type of behavior.
Or you can follow Nancy Reagan's advice and Just Say No.....to Garth!
> And don't forget to get the cassette version because the artwork
> is different on that one to.
Yes he thought of everything didn't he?
GoParis
> This whole article is about how important it is for Garth to sell a
> million copies or more THE FIRST DAY. It's become Garth and Quigley's
> obsession. Why?
No it's not. That's an out and out LIE. It's mentioned at the beginning
and the article then goes on to talk about a multitude of other things.
If you're unhappy with Garth, that's fine, but try sticking to the FACTS
for once instead of just spouting off.
GoParis
<westsi...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom> wrote:
> Thanks for posting this Stella. What is he running, a "collect all 6"
> scheme? And what an arrogant comment he makes about it. I am so glad I
> don't like his music. For one thing, his little schemes turn me off.
>
> If I were trying to do this with Garth's music, I would feel a collection
> wasn't complete if I didn't have all six--yet I would feel completely
> ripped off to have to buy all 6 just because the packaging is different.
Billy Joel just rereleased ALL of his albums with new cover work and a
couple live versions of songs. I guess Billy is worthy of all the trash
that's thrown Garth's way too (or could it just be BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!).
GoParis
guyg...@ix.netcom.com(a) wrote:
> I would love to see one of Garth's fans stick a box set up his ass for
> the arrogant, vile comments he's made to Billboard online. Now he has
> his hype machine running into on overdrive for his new crap music.
>
> from Billboard-online.com:
> "Here's the deal," says Brooks. "If there was a different song on each
> edition, people would have to buy all seven to get all the music. But I
> think the most important thing here, and it always has been, is the
> music. So people can buy the entire music package in one package, all
> for $13.99. Now if anyone wants to tell me that I'm holding a gun to
> somebody's head and they have to go out and get the other ones, you
> know, they can virtually stick it up their ass for all I care."
>
>
> What a smelly turd of a man.
>
> Stella
>
Hey Richie! Are you willing to use that same language regarding John
Berry? He released "Faces" with 4 different covers and the only thing
different was a different cover pose. That could mean that he's evil...or
it could just be MARKETING!
Oh by the way, if you think Garth's music is crap, that's fine, but don't
you dare call someone else arrogant and vile. You are the epitome of
arrogant and vile (and stupid, and lying, and all the rest).
GoParis
<westsi...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom> wrote:
> Thanks for posting this Stella. What is he running, a "collect all 6"
> scheme?
Would it be bad if some people wanted to collect all 6? I'm excited about
the live album, but I'm only going to buy one. I don't feel any need to
buy more than one. The only people that will feel the need are the people
who collect everything that Garth does and those people have the money to
spend anyways, so what's the hurt?
GoParis
<westsi...@yahoo.USPAMBACKcom> wrote:
> Craig Franck wrote:
> >
> > Scott wrote:
> >
> > >There are some artists that I like to think I have all their recordings.
> > >If I were trying to do this with Garth's music, I would feel a collection
> > >wasn't complete if I didn't have all six--yet I would feel completely
> > >ripped off to have to buy all 6 just because the packaging is different.
> >
> > Only an out of control idiot would by 6 CDs because they felt
> > compelled to even though they thought it was a rip off,
> > especially when you consider the music's the same on each one.
>
> That's right. I suppose Garth knows he has lots of fans like this. I'm
> glad I'm not among them.
Why do you suppose that? Could it be that you immediately assume the worst
in any matter dealing with Garth?
gds...@twlakes.net
Garth said "But I think the most important thing here, and it always has been,
is the music." YEAH RIGHT
SinginCJ
>really saying he's scared to face the truth.
>
>Stella
No,
Garth is telling those who are making up lies about him and making him out
to be a petty gunpoint theif, taking our money twenty bucks at a time, to shove
it up theirs. There is no rationalizing with people like that, you for
instance, these people are incapable of rational thought, they just close their
ears singing "la la la la la I can't hear you" until they can vomit more of
their garbage onto anyone within earshot. Frankly, you're just offended
because you are one of those people he was speaking to and you don't like a
fight, you just want to spew and make up stories without providing any facts.
Have a nice day,
CJ
a
(GoParis) writes:
>Hey Richie! Are you willing to use that same language regarding John
>Berry? He released "Faces" with 4 different covers and the only thing
>different was a different cover pose. That could mean that he's
evil...or it could just be MARKETING!
>
>Oh by the way, if you think Garth's music is crap, that's fine, but
don't you dare call someone else arrogant and vile. You are the epitome
of arrogant and vile (and stupid, and lying, and all the rest).
At the Bottom Line, Garth's police force accused me of speech crimes.
Well fine. But now Garth tells country music fans to "stick it up your
ass."
What does this mean? That you have more freedom of speech if you're a
big cheese instead of a little person like me? Is that what our
Frowning Fathers meant when they wrote the Declaration of Appendix?
I hope they indict me for speech crimes. I will tell the jury to go
ahead and put me in jail. But make sure to put Garth in there too for
telling people to stick it up their ass. I didn't say anything worst
than him, did I?
Then, me and Garth will be in the same jail cell. And we can see who
can stick it up the others ass the most.
Stella
GoParis
guyg...@ix.netcom.com(a) wrote:
> In <utrskuy-2010...@ppp133-pm-p4.tcsn.net> utr...@dyjkt.org
> (GoParis) writes:
>
> >Hey Richie! Are you willing to use that same language regarding John
> >Berry? He released "Faces" with 4 different covers and the only thing
> >different was a different cover pose. That could mean that he's
> evil...or it could just be MARKETING!
> >
> >Oh by the way, if you think Garth's music is crap, that's fine, but
> don't you dare call someone else arrogant and vile. You are the epitome
> of arrogant and vile (and stupid, and lying, and all the rest).
>
>
> At the Bottom Line, blah blah blah, blah blah blah
Answer the question: Are you willing to use that same language regarding John
a
(GoParis) writes:
>Answer the question: Are you willing to use that same language
regarding John Berry? He released "Faces" with 4 different covers and
the only thing different was a different cover pose. That could mean
that he's evil...or it could just be MARKETING!
I don't care if Garth puts out 32 flavors of every tutti-frutti album
he makes. What bothers me is how he hogs the spotlight with the most
trivial shit, in such designing ways.
Garth's parent company has practically vanished from the face of the
earth. Their stock is down around 310 pence, which means nobody
believes EMI's worldwide recording operation are worth more than a pint
of beer.
Garth's album isn't gonna make any money for EMI. It isn't gonna build
any equity, either, because Garth is his own fiefdom and he just hates
EMI Group.
The important album for EMI is Deana Carter's, and Garth and Quigley
are deliberately shouting her down with their hype. It's not a
coincidence they're coming out with this tutti-frutti garbage right
before her album hits the street. They want Deana to fail in comparison
to Garth.
That's how Garth's gonna shove it up Sir Colin's ass.
Stella
GoParis
> The important album for EMI is Deana Carter's, and Garth and Quigley
> are deliberately shouting her down with their hype. It's not a
> coincidence they're coming out with this tutti-frutti garbage right
> before her album hits the street. They want Deana to fail in comparison
> to Garth.
They're shouting her down? I guess her hour-long appearance on PTC last
night wherein Pat Quigley presented her with a 4x platinum plaque was...
what?...reverse psychology?
SinginCJ
>can stick it up the others ass the most.
>
>Stella
Folks,
With the amazing volume of stuff that Stella blows out of there, I think
Garth would be severely overshadowed in *that* event.
CJ
Cheemo
Rockabi101 wrote in message <19981020095922...@ng07.aol.com>...
>Gee, Stella. I kind of like the idea of varieties, etc. It may seem like a
>creative marketing device, but it has been used several times before. One
of
>my favorites is the variations on The Clash 12" single of "Rockin the
Casbah."
>
>For those who are completists it adds spice and variety to the colleciton
>(similar to Elvis collectors who want all the label varieties of each 45.).
>For others., it is a curiosity but nothing more.
>
>Good idea, Garth.
>
Hey, it could be worse. The CD could be shrink-wrapped in such a way that
you wouldn't know which cover you were buying!
In 1979, Led Zeppelin packaged its album "In Through the Out Door" with six
different covers ... but you never knew which cover you were getting until
you opened it, because the jacket was inside a brown paper bag.
Personally, if Garth wants to separate me from my money, he can reissue his
albums on vinyl.
Tim Neely
Goldmine magazine
Craig Franck
>Craig Franck wrote:
>>
>> Scott wrote:
>>
>> >There are some artists that I like to think I have all their recordings.
>> >If I were trying to do this with Garth's music, I would feel a collection
>> >wasn't complete if I didn't have all six--yet I would feel completely
>> >ripped off to have to buy all 6 just because the packaging is different.
>>
>> Only an out of control idiot would by 6 CDs because they felt
>> compelled to even though they thought it was a rip off,
>> especially when you consider the music's the same on each one.
>
>That's right. I suppose Garth knows he has lots of fans like this. I'm
>glad I'm not among them.
I really can't imagine the different packaging is going to increase
sales by more than 5% or so. The biggest inducement, other than the
fact you like Garth's music, is the double CD album is only going to
cost $13.99.
Instead of bashing Garth about the artwork, we should take this as
more evidence of how inflated the $17.99 price is for new single CD
releases.
>> And don't forget to get the cassette version because the artwork
>> is different on that one to.
>
>Yes he thought of everything didn't he?
The artwork is often different on cassettes if for no other reason
the insert is smaller and less bulky.
Mckngbyrd
BRAVO BRAVO
Twirl me about and Twirl me around
Let me get dizzy and fall to the ground....
--Mary Chapin Carpenter
Nshvlbrat
everyone else is wrong. Same song, different verse. <yawning again>
-Brat
Cats and women will do as they please....
dogs and men should relax and get used to it.
Country Boy
a <guyg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<70hnh0$m...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>...
.
>
> I am editing down's Garth's garbage so it can fit inside people's
> heads.
>
> Stella
>
I remember another guy who thought he'd "edit" information for the masses.
His name was Goebbels, and he worked for Hitler. He propogated "the big
lie." So now you've become his successor.
Country Boy
LAWfan1 <"jshe...@bellsouth.net"@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> wrote in article
<ZzVW1.410$xx4.5...@news3.mia.bellsouth.net>...
>
> Stella you have finally made some sense. Garth has gotten really greedy
> trying
> to sell that many different editions of the same piece of music. Even
> though the
> list of songs is exactly the same, to get the whole collection you will
> have to buy 6 CD's
> and one cassette. He had absolutely no business talking to billboard
> magazine
> like that. It sure looks like he's lost control to me
>
> .James
>
Maybe we're reading two different articles here. From what I read, the
music will always be the same. The only thing that changes is the
packaging. So big deal. If packaging is not important to you, it doesn't
matter. If the music is not important to you, don't buy it at all. What's
the big deal. As he said, he's not forcing anyone to buy anything. The
reality is that there are millions of people who would buy his toilet
paper. There's nothing any of us can do about that. So let him and his
fans have their fun. What does it do to any of you? How does it make your
life any more difficult?
Country Boy
a <guyg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<70i6b4$c...@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>...
> When Garth tells fans who criticize him to "stick it up your ass," he's
> really saying he's scared to face the truth.
>
> Stella
Garth is not telling this to fans. Because the fans don't criticize him.
He's telling this to people like you who would attack him for anything he
did. You'd attack him if he decided to turn over all of his profits to
you. You'd attack him if he helped Suzy Bogguss. You'd attack him if he
signed Kris Tyler to a record deal. Let's face it. There isn't anything
he could do you'd like. That's why he's telling people like you to stick
it up your ass.
Country Boy
Rockabi101 <rocka...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19981020095922...@ng07.aol.com>...
> Gee, Stella. I kind of like the idea of varieties, etc. It may seem like
a
> creative marketing device, but it has been used several times before.
One of
> my favorites is the variations on The Clash 12" single of "Rockin the
Casbah."
>
> For those who are completists it adds spice and variety to the colleciton
> (similar to Elvis collectors who want all the label varieties of each
45.).
> For others., it is a curiosity but nothing more.
>
> Good idea, Garth.
>
Back in the vinyl days, record companies used to press their music on
different color discs. Some had pictures on them. I know one guy who
bought many copies of the same album just to get the different pressings.
Just recently, TV Guide printed four different covers of its magazine, each
with a different country star.
I seem to recall USA Today printed different editions of its paper for
certain cities involved in baseball pennant races.
There are dozens of examples. The numbers of people who are interested in
such trivia is hardly enough to make a huge difference in sales numbers.
It becomes fun for collectors, and nothing more.
Country Boy
a <guyg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<70ii0v$1...@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>...
> At the Bottom Line, Garth's police force accused me of speech crimes.
Really? They were Garth's police? I thought you said they were New York
City policemen. Or is the story being embellished for better fiction?
Anyone who has ever been near Garth knows he doesn't even have personal
bodyguards. He's not going to hire people to attack people in New York.
> I hope they indict me for speech crimes.
Sorry...they won't give you that glory. In fact, I'm sure anyone who was
there has since forgotten anything even happened...that is if anything
actually *did.*
Country Boy
a <guyg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<70ijci$i...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>...
>
> The important album for EMI is Deana Carter's, and Garth and Quigley
> are deliberately shouting her down with their hype. It's not a
> coincidence they're coming out with this tutti-frutti garbage right
> before her album hits the street. They want Deana to fail in comparison
> to Garth.
Funny you should bring up Deana's album. The first 250,000 copies will
contain a glow-in-the-dark element in the cover. Not unlike the 3-D cover
she had on her first album.
But I guess Deana's use of marketing is just fine with you.
Perhaps you didn't see the full-page ad in USA Today for her album. Or see
the full page ad on Radio & Records' cover last week. Perhaps you didn't
watch her on TNN last night. Perhaps you haven't been able to keep up with
all the hype for Deana because you're too busy attacking Garth. But Deana
has her share of it. And she will have 100% of Capitol's attention for the
next four weeks.
br...@caverock.co.nz
LAWfan1 <"jshe...@bellsouth.net"@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> a wrote:
>
> > I would love to see one of Garth's fans stick a box set up his ass for
> > the arrogant, vile comments he's made to Billboard online. Now he has
> > his hype machine running into on overdrive for his new crap music.
> >
> > from Billboard-online.com:
> >
> >
> > of an idea Brooks and the label used for "Sevens." For that album, a
> > limited number of 777,777 copies were emblazoned with a gold metallic
> > seal. This time, 1 million limited editions were manufactured, each
> > with a silver heat transfer. Each subsequent million units carries
> > different CD booklet artwork, CD artwork, liner notes, and cover. For
> > example, the limited edition features photos spanning Brooks' career.
> > Another version features a cover and artwork from Brooks' Central Park
> > shows, while another spotlights his Irish concerts. The songs and
> > running order remain the same for all editions. There are six CD
> > versions and one cassette version.
> >
> > I've wanted to do different covers ever since I was in college and saw
> > a Cher album that had different covers on it," says Brooks. "So I
> > wondered if I could talk my label into making the album's artwork
> > change with every million copies from milestone to milestone, from
> > Central Park to Dublin to Dallas Stadium.
> >
> > While many fans will see the various editions as an opportunity to buy
> > one with a front cover of a concert they may have seen, Brooks knows
> > critics will complain that he's using the different editions to drive
> > up album sales. With 82 million units sold, Brooks is the top-selling
> > solo album artist in U.S. history.
> >
> > "Here's the deal," says Brooks. "If there was a different song on each
> > think the most important thing here, and it always has been, is the
> > for $13.99. Now if anyone wants to tell me that I'm holding a gun to
> > somebody's head and they have to go out and get the other ones, you
> > know, they can virtually stick it up their ass for all I care."
> >
> > What a smelly turd of a man.
> >
> > Stella
>
> trying
> to sell that many different editions of the same piece of music. Even
> though the
> list of songs is exactly the same, to get the whole collection you will
> have to buy 6 CD's
> and one cassette. He had absolutely no business talking to billboard
> magazine
> like that. It sure looks like he's lost control to me
>
> .James
>
>
Richard's cutting of a story .
br...@caverock.co.nz
guyg...@ix.netcom.com(a) wrote:
> In <70hes0$ots$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com> br...@caverock.co.nz writes:
>
> >That is really disgusting even for you Richard. Are you Ken Starr or
> what?. If you are going to put a story up , put the whole story, not
> just the bits you want people to hear. You really sicken me, that has
> got to be the worst thing someone who writes can do.For those open
> minded people who like the truth, and not a wanker like Richard, you
> can read the whole story at
> >http://www.billboard.com
>
> Nobody wants to read all the hype Garth spews.
>
> I am editing down's Garth's garbage so it can fit inside people's
> heads.
>
> Stella
>
Not a good enough answer, im sure people would love to read the whole story
at http://www.billboard.com Richard you are like the reporters on the movie
Mad city, except you havent got a job.
JMCremer
gds...@twlakes.net wrote:
>Garth said "But I think the most important thing here, and it always has been,
>is the music." YEAH RIGHT
...right, the music will be the same on every album -- and this is why I“m
going to buy it! It“s not a new idea to change the cover on the same album.
I“ve an album (Patricia Kaas/je te dis vous), it has two covers/booklets in it,
one in french and one in german! Maybe he should release a book containing all
pictures and stuff which will be on the 7 different albums (6 CD plus 1
MC-edition)
...on the other hand - if somebody wants all pictures and the whole stuff - he
has to buy all 7 albums, but as a real fan of him....
..and if you don“t like it, simply don“t buy it!
Jens M. Cremer
Pat Homsey
a <guyg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>At the Bottom Line, Garth's police force accused me of speech crimes.
Brwahhaaahhhaaahaaa! Good one, Richard. This is the 3rd version
of this Bottom Line fabrication. I forget who was blamed first,
it was so long ago and I don't have time (unlike Stella who must be
a shut-in) to go to dejanews.
Stella is the village idiot and I read his posts for my morning laugh.
Anyone who takes him seriously has only to stick around a little
while to realize it.
Pat
Nshvlbrat
>..and if you don´t like it, simply don´t buy it!
Truer words were never spoken! Maybe the simplicity of this therory has Stella
and Garth- bashers mixed up!
a
(Nshvlbrat) writes:
>
>>: jmcr...@aol.com (JMCremer) stated:
>
>>..and if you don´t like it, simply don´t buy it!
>
>Truer words were never spoken! Maybe the simplicity of this therory
has Stella and Garth- bashers mixed up!
In his new album, John Mellencamp has turned into a teacher. And he's
written some beautiful, simple aphorisms designed to teach simple
truths.
One of the best, from a song called "It All Comes True," goes like
this...
"And it all comes true
Yes it all comes true
Like a wheel inside a wheel it turns on you
And you think 'what have I done, what can I do'
What you believe about yourself, it all comes true."
John is telling young people, particularly from a disadvantaged
background, not to accept limits they are taught. Break out of the
wheel.
I think this same message could be applied to Garth and Nashville.
Garth is like the wheel turning inside the wheel of Nashville. Through
no fault of his own, Garth inspired the copy-cat cloning of his style,
music and techniques that has come to be HNC. Since the copy-cats were
less talented than Garth, and each xerox copy got more bland and
blurry, the whole music scene among major Nashville labels turned to
garbage. Meanwhile, more creative voices that might have broken the
cycle were excluded through collusion.
It's Garth's job to break the destructive cycle. Stop being the wheel
inside the wheel. But he can't. This corny PR shit has become his whole
gig. He's afraid to confront Nashville's problems in public, and he has
NOTHING ELSE TO SAY, as an artist or as a man. So, the copycats will
keep doing what Garth does, and the wheels will keep turning inside
each other until Nashville self-destructs.
Nashville has developed the most horrible self-image. It all comes
true.
Stella
BRCRocks
>with a different country star.
>
>I seem to recall USA Today printed different editions of its paper for
>certain cities involved in baseball pennant races.
>
>There are dozens of examples. The numbers of people who are interested in
>such trivia is hardly enough to make a huge difference in sales numbers.
>It becomes fun for collectors, and nothing more.
The Nov issue of Music City NEws has four diferent covers of Billy Ray Cyrus on
it. It is for fun and collectors, nothing more.
However I do think Garths statement is out of line. I am a fan of his and I
generally like his music. However I find his remark very disrespectful. There
are many other phrases he could have used to make his point. It seems he has
stooped to the level of his critics with comments like that.
Jacquilynne Schlesier
:
: >
: I remember another guy who thought he'd "edit" information for the masses.
: lie." So now you've become his successor.
Nice attempt to invoke Godwin's law and end this thread Country Boy, but
since my newsreader reflects another 11 posts in follow up, it apparently
didn't work.
JAS
a
Schlesier) writes:
>Nice attempt to invoke Godwin's law and end this thread Country Boy,
but since my newsreader reflects another 11 posts in follow up, it
apparently didn't work.
Godwin's Law is a form of totalitariansim which seeks to impose martial
law and order on the free-flowing expression of Newsgroup ideas. The
concept that a thread should die just because somebody is accused of
being dictatorial and genocidal has been discredited by enlightened
thinkers all over the Net. Threads don't die until their emotional
energy has been spent, or else the person who wants to see the thread
rack up big numbers achieves their goal.
It's now generally agreed that Godwin himself is a Hitlerian figure.
Stella
GoParis
guyg...@ix.netcom.com(a) wrote:
> Godwin's Law is a form of totalitariansim which seeks to impose martial
> law and order on the free-flowing expression of Newsgroup ideas. The
> concept that a thread should die just because somebody is accused of
> being dictatorial and genocidal has been discredited by enlightened
> thinkers all over the Net. Threads don't die until their emotional
> energy has been spent, or else the person who wants to see the thread
> rack up big numbers achieves their goal.
Let us know when you achieve those numbers, okay?
ca...@uno.edu
>>When Garth tells fans who criticize him to "stick it up your ass," he's
>>really saying he's scared to face the truth.
>>
>>Stella
>
> Garth is telling those who are making up lies about him and making him out
>to be a petty gunpoint theif, taking our money twenty bucks at a time, to shove
>it up theirs. There is no rationalizing with people like that, you for
>instance, these people are incapable of rational thought, they just close their
>ears singing "la la la la la I can't hear you" until they can vomit more of
>their garbage onto anyone within earshot. Frankly, you're just offended
>because you are one of those people he was speaking to and you don't like a
>fight, you just want to spew and make up stories without providing any facts.
>Have a nice day,
>CJ
Well said. ...brings tears to my eyes...:)
No matter he might have said, not only will *I* be buying a Live CD set, but
also hundreds of thousands of people..even millions. He'll sell at the least
three MILLION sets.
Mark those words, Stella.
--chris
SinginCJ
>However I do think Garths statement is out of line. I am a fan of his and I
>
>generally like his music. However I find his remark very disrespectful. There
>are many other phrases he could have used to make his point. It seems he has
>stooped to the level of his critics with comments like that.
>
>
Well,
You gotta understand. Garth takes alot, I mean ALOT, of criticism for
just about everything he does. (The way he runs around the stage, he breathes
in TWICE as much air as the normal human, what a greed monger!) I'm surprised
he hadn't lashed out sooner. Who wouldn't want to tell the people that would
criticise you for ANYTHING you do to stick it up their <insert biblical term
for donkey> ? That's just my take. I am not proud of him making that
statement, but I can understand how he could be driven to it.
CJ
Richard & Barbara Sherrill
I am surpised at you ... You feel for the oldest trick in Garths book..
Look all the way back to when Friends In Low Places came out .. Garth
started stirring up something around the release of his cds... Because he
gets what you are giving to him... FREE ADVERTISING !!
Each and every cd has had something attached to it and the media took
bite... He sold more cds about 5 years ago when he told tv guide he was
quiting then he took it back... do you remember that ??
Garth knows how to get free advertising and this is how he is selling this
new cd...
Truthfully he makes me sick ... After what I saw that woman in Wal Mart
last week crying as she held his box set... She was dressed to kill, come
to find out she had just left divorce court.. She divorced her husband
because he wouldn't let her buy the box set !! Tell me what is wrong with
this picture...
I couldn't and wouldn't divorce my hubby if he wouldn't let me buy a George
or Aaron cd... I would make his life a living hell !! LOL !! ... but,
divorce .. no way
Well, that woman got her box set .... I asked her if the divorce was worth
a $25 boxset... She said hell yes.. no one was going to stand between her
and her favorite country artist... So, I have a feeling she will buy all
of the new cds...
You got sucker in Stella ... to what Garth wanted ... I am sure he
appreciates it !
Barbara
a <guyg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<70gflu$s...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>...
> edition, people would have to buy all seven to get all the music. But I
> think the most important thing here, and it always has been, is the
goParis
Sherrill " <bshe...@pdq.net> wrote:
> Truthfully he makes me sick ... After what I saw that woman in Wal Mart
> last week crying as she held his box set... She was dressed to kill, come
> to find out she had just left divorce court.. She divorced her husband
> because he wouldn't let her buy the box set !! Tell me what is wrong with
> this picture...
> I couldn't and wouldn't divorce my hubby if he wouldn't let me buy a George
> or Aaron cd... I would make his life a living hell !! LOL !! ... but,
> divorce .. no way
> Well, that woman got her box set .... I asked her if the divorce was worth
> a $25 boxset... She said hell yes.. no one was going to stand between her
> and her favorite country artist... So, I have a feeling she will buy all
> of the new cds...
Garth makes you sick because of this? The woman and her husband should
make you sick here, not Garth. If you want to hate Garth, that's fine, but
you better find better reasons than this.
Coop
Richard & Barbara Sherrill wrote:
> Garth knows how to get free advertising and this is how he is selling this
> new cd...
> Truthfully he makes me sick ... After what I saw that woman in Wal Mart
> last week crying as she held his box set... She was dressed to kill, come
> to find out she had just left divorce court.. She divorced her husband
> because he wouldn't let her buy the box set !! Tell me what is wrong with
> this picture...
For starters, how about trying to blame Garth for the woman's marital
problems. I know you don't like Garth and that's fine.
Coop
Country Boy
BRCRocks <brcr...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19981021110615...@ng83.aol.com]
> However I do think Garths statement is out of line. I am a fan of his
and I
> generally like his music. However I find his remark very disrespectful.
There
> are many other phrases he could have used to make his point. It seems he
has
> stooped to the level of his critics with comments like that.
>
>
One thing you can't ascertain from an article that contains quotes like
that is what questions were asked that led to his answer. That's the
problem when you read articles from print reporters rather than watching a
live interview on TV (or hearing one on radio). You can hear the question.
Perhaps the writer asked him a question in such a way that angered him.
You also can't hear the tone of his voice in his answer. Maybe he laughed
after he said it. All of that is hard to gauge from that article.
TeresaA999
But regarding the use of different artwork with the same music I have the
following comments. It appears that each of the 6 different packages will
carry different artwork, different liner notes, a different cover with pictures
from different concerts. WHY? Greed is the only answer here. It's not
innovation. Innovative would imply that there is something special, something
new, about the cover, sort of like the special edition of Deanna Carter's debut
CD or like those CD's that you can pop in your computer and see videos and
other stuff while you listen to the music.. Now that is innovative. The only
reason is financial reasons. Garth knows that most diehard Garth fans (and
even some that are not) will buy multiple copies just to get the different
artwork. I can envision a fan buying one version because that is all that is
available, and then later finding that special one with footage from a concert
that he/she attended or saw on television. So now they have two.
What he does is really his decision, but the sad part about the whole situation
is that having that many versions of the same CD, slightly different and
limited in number, probably means that the sales of CD's by other artists will
suffer. Take the fan who goes into a record store to buy the new cd by artist
X. He already has the Double Live CD, but lo and behold there is the "special
version" that he really wanted. Unless he's got cash to burn, chances are he
buys the special version instead of the CD by artist X. Why? Because there is
no guarantee that the special version will be available the next time he visits
the store. The CD by artist X will probably be available. However, depending
upon how long it is between visits to the record store, the fan may lose
interest in artist X before he evers has a chance to buy the CD.
st...@erols.com
>
> I'll admit that I haven't read the article, and really have no desire to do so.
> But regarding the use of different artwork with the same music I have the
> following comments. It appears that each of the 6 different packages will
> carry different artwork, different liner notes, a different cover with pictures
A few years back John Berry had multiple CD covers... 3 or 4 of them for
the same album... no one had a problem then... its only 'cause its Garth
you are saying this.... if you don't want it don't buy it... or buy the
one you like best.... Ford makes trucks in more than one color... dosn't
mean you have to buy em all...
Philip
Balecox
to find out she had just left divorce court.. She divorced her husband
because he wouldn't let her buy the box set !! Tell me what is wrong with
this picture... <<<<
That story sounds like a load of crap to me. Either the woman was jerking
your chain or she is a potential stalker.
Patsi
Richard & Barbara Sherrill
Balecox <bal...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19981022085935...@ng56.aol.com>...
Patsi...
I am afraid of the latter of the two... You should of seen her eyes.... I
was uncomfortable around her !!
Barbara
Orange Lazarus
>
>Thank you, James. I knew Garth was getting out of control when he sent
>part of his police force to attack me. Now he is getting even worst.
>
>Stella
>
For fucks sake, Stella...
From the responses you are gettting, one would think that you were
criticizing God the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit instead of
pulling back the curtains on a shitheel hick with a penchant for
tapping into the psyche of white trash america with his melodramatic
warblings....
Orange Lazarus
E-mail:Orange_...@usa.com
Change "com" to "net" to e-mail
Orange Lazarus
snip
>Oh by the way, if you think Garth's music is crap, that's fine, but don't
>you dare call someone else arrogant and vile. You are the epitome of
>arrogant and vile (and stupid, and lying, and all the rest).
What is wrong with the the above statements?
Prime candidate for alt.pot.kettle.black.
OerMyShldr
>So Garth is offering your choice of cd
>covers......what's the big deal? The man
>majored in marketing in college...he takes
>an interest in these things. He's a visionary, like Ted Turner......he
>needs
>new challenges. Geez, give the guy a
>break.
>
>Maggie
>
>
John Barry did the same thing w/his Faces album.
J
nospam
>covers......what's the big deal? The man
>majored in marketing in college...he takes
>an interest in these things. He's a visionary, like Ted Turner......he
>needs new challenges. Geez, give the guy a
>break.
..probably got the idea from Kiss.
xfans2
nospam wrote in message <71677r$rso$1...@uuneo.neosoft.com>...
Actually he's been quoted as saying he got the idea from Cher, and it's not
the first time a country artist has done multiple cover art. Deana Carter
has done it twice now, and John Berry put out four different cover shots of
his CD "Faces." It's all about marketing and getting record sales. So what
if I want to buy the CD that has cover art from a concert that I might have
attended? So what if I want to buy the one with cover art from concerts in
Ireland? For that matter, so what if I want to buy all six covers of the CD
and get the cassette copy as well? It's my money, and nobody's holding a
gun to my head to make me do it.
Sister Terri, a.k.a. "lesbo-feminist-tree-hugging-dyke-bitch."
BITCH = Being In Total Control of Herself!
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Craig Franck
>>So Garth is offering your choice of cd
>>covers......what's the big deal? The man
>>majored in marketing in college...he takes
>>an interest in these things. He's a visionary, like Ted Turner......he
>>needs new challenges. Geez, give the guy a
>>break.
>
>..probably got the idea from Kiss.
The only incident like that I can remember with them is when they
released four different solo albums all at the same time and each
album had a picture of the band member whose album it was on the
cover.
--
Craig
clfr...@worldnet.att.net
Manchester, NH
*plonk* right back at ya! -- "Country Boy"
Richard & Barbara Sherrill
st...@erols.com wrote in article <362ECA...@erols.com>...
Phillip ..
People had trouble with the John Berry Cd and they also had problems with
Deana Carter.. So, Garth is going to do it to six.. you say what is the big
deal .. the big deal is .. there will be enough for only 6 million people
if that many .. Are the record stores going to put a cap on how many you
can buy so, someone else can buy one ?? Garth, himself stated there will be
NO more of this cd once they sale out and he wants them all to Sale out
that day ! Is it getting to the point that labels are going have to find
out when Garths release date is .. So they will not release any other cds
that day ?? Many get lost in the shuffle and Garth doesnt seem to mind..
Now maybe if he relased a new cd cover every couple of months you wouldn't
hear so much complaining about this !! but, it comes down to money and that
is what this is all about ... With ANY artist that does this !! As you see
I said ANY artist... I feel they shouldn't .. I would complain if one of
my favs did it... its not fair to the fans that can't afford more than one
cd.. Many fans has to save up their money to buy one.. Have the folks in
Nashville forgotten this ?? The other problem with doing this NOT all
regions get the specialze cd .... I know with Deanna's.. I know people that
had to get someone from another area to get it for them.. Or like when Paul
Brandt did a specialize CD with his last one... Cananda was the only place
you could get the collectors item... It was not avaliable here in the
states. He lost fans over that one !! Many were upset.. They didn't post,
rant, rave and have a fit about it ! What many of them did was more
effective .. they didn't buy the new cd and they droped out of the fan
club... Since Garth doesn't have a fan club.. This is where people rant,
rave and through fits about things they fill that Garth is being unfair !
Garth would not realize through cd sales when one person is upset with him
.. Its when they complain , is when they get his attention !!
Barbara
Richard & Barbara Sherrill
Craig Franck <clfr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<718knu$o...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
You know Craig.. Garth has admited to stealing ideas in the past .. if he
sees something that worked for someone else .. he would try it..but, with a
different twist.. I remember that KISS Album ..but, I don't remember how
well it sold !!
Do you ??
Barbara
xfans2
Richard & Barbara Sherrill wrote in message
<01be039c$8ea349c0$b61990d1@george-strait>...
>You know Craig.. Garth has admited to stealing ideas in the past .. if he
>sees something that worked for someone else .. he would try it..but, with a
>different twist.. I remember that KISS Album ..but, I don't remember how
>well it sold !!
>Do you ??
See, now....*this* is the kind of thing I was talking about! Stealing?
What the heck has he stolen? Smashing the guitar? He said he saw one of
the members of Kiss do it at a show he attended. The multiple cover art?
He's said that he got the idea from a Cher album he bought a long time ago
and has wanted to do it since. What exactly has been stolen here? Were
those trademarked ideas? Oh my God! Garth saw that someone else had
success with a rodeo song, so he STOLE the idea and did one! That thief!
And, gasp! Look! Garth saw that someone else got really successful by
doing live shows! He STOLE that idea too! What about all the other people
that have done multiple cover art? Did they STEAL the idea, too? Everybody
else can do it, but if *Garth* does it, he's STOLEN the idea?
Thunder
Sherrill " <bshe...@pdq.net> wrote:
> People had trouble with the John Berry Cd and they also had problems with
> Deana Carter.. So, Garth is going to do it to six.. you say what is the big
> deal .. the big deal is .. there will be enough for only 6 million people
> if that many .. Are the record stores going to put a cap on how many you
> can buy so, someone else can buy one ?? Garth, himself stated there will be
> NO more of this cd once they sale out and he wants them all to Sale out
> that day !
Everyone wants huge sales the first week and especially the first day.
Don't act like Garth is the only one that wants this. By the way, their
goal is to sell 1 million the first day, not 6. Garth has also said that
they will continue to make new copies once the first 6 million sell out
(if that should happen).
Is it getting to the point that labels are going have to find
> out when Garths release date is .. So they will not release any other cds
> that day ??
Every label does that all the time with the big name artists in every
genre of music. That's one of the reasons that release dates get moved
around so much. It usually isn't a wise move to release a record (or
movies or books) against others that are sure to be huge sellers.
Many get lost in the shuffle and Garth doesnt seem to mind..
> Now maybe if he relased a new cd cover every couple of months you wouldn't
> hear so much complaining about this !! but, it comes down to money and that
> is what this is all about ... With ANY artist that does this !!
It comes down to money with every major label artist that releases any record.
Thunder
Sherrill " <bshe...@pdq.net> wrote:
> You know Craig.. Garth has admited to stealing ideas in the past .. if he
> sees something that worked for someone else .. he would try it..but, with a
> different twist.
When Garth sees something that works for someone else, he tries doing it.
Gee, that's unusual. I'll bet no one ever did that before Garth came
along.
Do you pay any attention to the world around you? When a movie is made
that becomes a big hit, other studios try the same thing with a different
twist. When a television show is made that becomes a big hit, other
networks try the same thing with a different twist. It's the way the world
works. I wish you would realize that and stop acting like Garth is the
only one that does these nasty things you keep talking about.
xfans2
Richard & Barbara Sherrill wrote in message
>> A few years back John Berry had multiple CD covers... 3 or 4 of them for
>> the same album... no one had a problem then... its only 'cause its Garth
>> you are saying this.... if you don't want it don't buy it... or buy the
>> one you like best.... Ford makes trucks in more than one color... dosn't
>> mean you have to buy em all...
>Phillip ..
>People had trouble with the John Berry Cd and they also had problems with
>Deana Carter.. So, Garth is going to do it to six.. you say what is the big
>deal .. the big deal is .. there will be enough for only 6 million people
>if that many ..
Garth's management has been quoted as saying that they figure Garth has 4
million core fans, so they put out 6 million so other people would have a
chance to buy it, too.
>Are the record stores going to put a cap on how many you
>can buy so, someone else can buy one ??
No.
>Garth, himself stated there will be
>NO more of this cd once they sale out and he wants them all to Sale out
>that day !
He was quoted as saying that there will be one million of each cover, and
after that they would put out an ordinary cover of the CD. No one has ever
said that there will only be 6 million copies of the CD and that's it. He
also did not say he wanted to sell out on the first day....he said he wants
to sell a million on the first day.
>Is it getting to the point that labels are going have to find
>out when Garths release date is .. So they will not release any other cds
>that day ??
No.
>Many get lost in the shuffle and Garth doesnt seem to mind..
>Now maybe if he relased a new cd cover every couple of months you wouldn't
>hear so much complaining about this !! but, it comes down to money and that
>is what this is all about ...
I want to make all the money I can and live a good life. How 'bout you?
>With ANY artist that does this !! As you see
>I said ANY artist... I feel they shouldn't .. I would complain if one of
>my favs did it... its not fair to the fans that can't afford more than one
>cd.. Many fans has to save up their money to buy one.. Have the folks in
>Nashville forgotten this ??
Well so what? If I want something and don't have the cash right off, I save
up. If someone "can't afford" more than one copy of the CD, then they
shouldn't buy more than one copy. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head
and making them buy every copy of the CD. Nobody should spend money they
don't have, and if they do it's nobody's fault but their own. Now, you may
say, but they'll be disappointed. They'll get over it. Life is full of
disappointments. I don't get everything I want. Do you?
>The other problem with doing this NOT all
>regions get the specialze cd .... I know with Deanna's.. I know people that
>had to get someone from another area to get it for them.. Or like when Paul
>Brandt did a specialize CD with his last one... Cananda was the only place
>you could get the collectors item... It was not avaliable here in the
>states. He lost fans over that one !! Many were upset.. They didn't post,
>rant, rave and have a fit about it ! What many of them did was more
>effective .. they didn't buy the new cd and they droped out of the fan
>club...
Do you have any statistics on how many people were in Paul's fan club before
the Canadian CD came out, and how many are in it now? Or are you just
speculating? If you could post some numbers, I might believe you.
>Since Garth doesn't have a fan club.. This is where people rant,
>rave and through fits about things they fill that Garth is being unfair !
>Garth would not realize through cd sales when one person is upset with him
>.. Its when they complain , is when they get his attention !!
If Garth sees these messages, or any of his people do, then he also knows
that people are happy with the way he's handling his career, and will do
whatever he feels is right.
Kari Taylor Atkins
<xfa...@deathtospammers.net> wrote:
>The multiple cover art?
>He's said that he got the idea from a Cher album he bought a long time ago
>and has wanted to do it since.
Just out of curiousity, (and sorry if this is repetitive... I just got
here) has anyone considered that authors of books do this all the
time? How many Stephen King novels have been released, rereleased
under a different cover?
And perhaps I'm missing the point, but who cares?
Kari :-)
Scott
>
> Just out of curiousity, (and sorry if this is repetitive... I just got
> here) has anyone considered that authors of books do this all the
> time? How many Stephen King novels have been released, rereleased
> under a different cover?
>
> And perhaps I'm missing the point, but who cares?
Hi Kari, where've you been? 8^) There's different viewpoints on this.
Some people (like me) think (know) this is just a marketing tactic on
Garth's part. A die-hard collector might want to have all 6 or 7 or
however many there will end up being. Which is getting kind of far-out,
but technically, their collection would not be complete with just one out
of the six, or n, covers. So Garth is giving them the shaft. I know if
one of my favorite artists did that, I would just not buy the album at
all. It's just another case of him putting the merchandising before the
music.
Elmer Alley
Did it ever occur to you that he just might be giving them a choice?
Thunder
Yes! And isn't that a horrible awful nasty thing to do! How dare the fans
be given a choice!
Scott
> Did it ever occur to you that he just might be giving them a choice?
Here is what the article said: "This time, 1 million limited editions were
manufactured, each with a silver heat transfer. Each subsequent million
units carries
different CD booklet artwork, CD artwork, liner notes, and cover. "
The way I read it, it didn't sound like the customer in the store would
have a choice. Unless they are pressing 6 million at once and mixing them
up. It seemed to me like the first million will be one way, then the next
million, and so on. I know that CDNow and MusicBoulevard are not giving
people a choice.
I'll bet he's not giving people the choice of just buying the three new
songs.
HooeyBrown
While it is a true statement that the seven different covers is a "choice", and
that nobody is holding a gun to anybody's head to buy all seven..........
Garth is an absolutely clever marketer. He KNOWS that there are the diehard
faithful who WILL go out and BUY ALL the different versions. He is COUNTING ON
those fans to jack up the sales numbers............ after all, the more he
sells the quicker he reaches 100 million.
Clever indeed.
"there's a COW IN THE ROAD and you SWERVE TO THE LEFT....." - Max T. Barnes &
Trey Bruce.
Craig Franck
>On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:34:18 -0800, "xfans2"
><xfa...@deathtospammers.net> wrote:
>
>>The multiple cover art?
>>He's said that he got the idea from a Cher album he bought a long time ago
>>and has wanted to do it since.
>
>here) has anyone considered that authors of books do this all the
>time? How many Stephen King novels have been released, rereleased
>under a different cover?
And not only with different covers. In the case of "The Stand,"
he also added pages to an already humongous book and changed the
ending.
>And perhaps I'm missing the point, but who cares?
Only people with an ax to grind.