Beaches of Cheyenne
Justine Middleton
I haven't seen them written down. I have looked at an atlas of the USA
and Wyoming, and am mystefied. Where are these beaches? I can only see a lake
or two. What am I missing? It must be too subtle/allegorical for me.
Justine Middleton
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Sarah Aitken
My interpretation of the "Beaches of Cheyenne": The man dies in Cheyenne,
but because they had lived in California, by the ocean, she drowns herself
and then haunts the California beaches. BUT in her MIND she is in
Cheyenne, where he died. That's what I got out of the song, hope it
helps!
Nicole Huggins Love
>I have pondered over the words of the Beaches of Cheyenne, although
>I haven't seen them written down. I have looked at an atlas of the USA
>and Wyoming, and am mystefied. Where are these beaches? I can only see a lake
>or two. What am I missing? It must be too subtle/allegorical for me.
Justine,
Hmmm. You mean the shores of the lakes around Sydney are *paved* ?
Interesting... <smile>
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Linda Valentine-Bryant
>I have pondered over the words of the Beaches of Cheyenne, although
>I haven't seen them written down. I have looked at an atlas of the USA
>and Wyoming, and am mystefied. Where are these beaches? I can only see a lake
>or two. What am I missing? It must be too subtle/allegorical for me.
>X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.02
>
>
Mike Shepard
Who says lakes can't have beaches?
Patricia Chivari
<lin...@iquest.net> wrote:
Well, let's backtrack....the couple in the song were living on the beach
in California, right? and...he was riding in CHeyenne, where he was
killed. She runs out to the ocean when she hears the news, throws herself
into the ocean, and, some say, is now a ghost wandering the beaches...but
not the beaches of California, the beaches of Cheyenne, looking for her
husband/lover whatever.
Emm...
You're right, it is confusing <grynne>
If anyone can explain to *me* what the last verse of "Learning to Live
Again" means, I'd be ever-grateful...
Is the woman taunting him? Is she supposedly feeling the same as the
narrator? What?
Trish ;)
Collin Raye Fan
>If anyone can explain to *me* what the last verse of "Learning to Live
>Again" means, I'd be ever-grateful...
>Is the woman taunting him? Is she supposedly feeling the same as the
>narrator? What?
>
>Trish ;)
The woman says "We'll see" to the man, and she explains to him that
"learning to live again" is killing her, just as it has been killing
him. Whether she has feelings for him or not is not really made clear
in the song. I guess it's open for interpretation. That's what I get
out of it.
COLLIN RAYE FAN
"Just a few drinks and then she'll be with him again
As he sits on the time machine..."
NoraFlan
heartbreak that he's thinking about it the whole night and then when he
says goodbye and asks her out, more from courtesy than real desire I
think, she says we'll see, and you realize that she's learning to live
without someone too and it's just as hard for her...I don't know maybe it
means something else. Did you know that Reba passed on that song and then
it went to Garth?
Scott Davis
>You're right, it is confusing <grynne>
>
never would have broken the top 40 (let alone go to number one) if it
were recorded by a new artist. I do, however, like to listen to the
song, but it is certainly not for the lyrical content. Six months from
now I will have forgotten about the song. Great songs stick around for
a long, long, time. This is not a great song, just a great artist!
Scott
Olorenshaw
their home in California. THey had a fight before he left and she
goes crazy and walks into the ocean.
Bob Marshall O5E46 Bdlg 102 x65737
>>If anyone can explain to *me* what the last verse of "Learning to Live
>>Again" means, I'd be ever-grateful...
>>Is the woman taunting him? Is she supposedly feeling the same as the
>>narrator? What?
>>
>>Trish ;)
>
> The woman says "We'll see" to the man, and she explains to him that
> "learning to live again" is killing her, just as it has been killing
> him. Whether she has feelings for him or not is not really made clear
> in the song. I guess it's open for interpretation. That's what I get
> out of it.
We went 'round and 'round on this a couple of months ago, and the general
consensus was that this was *not*, well, the general consensus. Everyone
except for COLLIN RAYE FAN agreed that it was only the man who was "learning
to live again".
I'm not sure if I'd use the word "taunting", but I think it's clear she was
saying "I had a 'good time', but...". If you label that as "taunting", then so
be it. But I think the point was that he struck out, and he's frustrated at
having to learn the whole dating game thing all over again.
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NoraFlan
>saying "I had a 'good time', but...". If you label that as "taunting",
then so
>be it. But I think the point was that he struck out, and he's frustrated
at
>having to learn the whole dating game thing all over again.
good point...I missed the original discussion...maybe that is the
"answer".
karen
::If anyone can explain to *me* what the last verse of "Learning to Live
::Again" means, I'd be ever-grateful...
::Is the woman taunting him? Is she supposedly feeling the same as the
::narrator? What?
::
::Trish ;)
>
>The woman says "We'll see" to the man, and she explains to him that
>"learning to live again" is killing her, just as it has been killing
>him. Whether she has feelings for him or not is not really made clear
>in the song. I guess it's open for interpretation. That's what I get
>out of it.
>
>
not 'taunting', but remains unclear and open to interpretation. After
listening to the entire song though, I would interpret it positively..:)
BostonFred
=::If anyone can explain to *me* what the last verse of "Learning to Live
=::Again" means, I'd be ever-grateful...
=::Is the woman taunting him? Is she supposedly feeling the same as the
=::narrator? What?
=::
=::Trish ;)
=>
=>The woman says "We'll see" to the man, and she explains to him that
=>"learning to live again" is killing her, just as it has been killing
=>him. Whether she has feelings for him or not is not really made clear
=>in the song. I guess it's open for interpretation. That's what I get
=>out of it.
=>
=>
=I agree with the Collin Raye Fan above. To me, the woman's comment is
=not 'taunting', but remains unclear and open to interpretation. After
=listening to the entire song though, I would interpret it positively..:)
No way! When she says "We'll see" that's a polite way blowing him
off--saying "Thanks but no thanks." (That's not taunting--it's simply
rejection.) And he knows it! That's why he says that "learning to live
again is killing me." Why would he say that if he thought there was a
positive vibe there?
Collin Raye Fan
wrote:
>>>
>>>Trish ;)
>>
>> The woman says "We'll see" to the man, and she explains to him that
>
>We went 'round and 'round on this a couple of months ago, and the general
>consensus was that this was *not*, well, the general consensus. Everyone
>except for COLLIN RAYE FAN agreed that it was only the man who was "learning
>to live again".
>
>be it. But I think the point was that he struck out, and he's frustrated at
>having to learn the whole dating game thing all over again.
>
Just want you to know that just because everyone agreed doesn't mean you're necessarily right; I still believe that I have interpret=
ed the song correctly. I could be wrong, but I just think it makes the most sense that way.
COLLIN RAYE FAN
john hutchins
COLLIN RAYE FAN argued that the woman in the song was also
'learning to live again' then I would have to agree with him.
Yet another opinion,
Gen Hutchins
Bob Marshall
>mars...@skynet.litc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall O5E46 Bdlg 102 x65737)
>wrote:
>>In article <4kk7f2$9...@service2.uky.edu>, Collin Raye Fan <der...@pop.uky.edu> writes:
>>>>If anyone can explain to *me* what the last verse of "Learning to Live
>>>>Again" means, I'd be ever-grateful...
>>>>Is the woman taunting him? Is she supposedly feeling the same as the
>>>>narrator? What?
>>>>
>>>>Trish ;)
>>>
>>> The woman says "We'll see" to the man, and she explains to him that
>>> "learning to live again" is killing her, just as it has been killing
>>> him. Whether she has feelings for him or not is not really made clear
>>> in the song. I guess it's open for interpretation. That's what I get
>>> out of it.
>>
>>We went 'round and 'round on this a couple of months ago, and the general
>>consensus was that this was *not*, well, the general consensus. Everyone
>>except for COLLIN RAYE FAN agreed that it was only the man who was "learning
>>to live again".
>Just want you to know that just because everyone agreed doesn't mean you're
>necessarily right; I still believe that I have interpreted the song
>correctly. I could be wrong, but I just think it makes the most sense
>that way.
>COLLIN RAYE FAN
I did not claim to be "right" (however, you have made such a claim). I just
stated what the general consensus was. Only the songwriters (Stephanie Davis
and the incomparable Don Schlitz) know what's "right". Your assertion that
it's the woman who is thinking the last "This learning to live again is
killing me" is plausible. However, there is no evidence in the song that
actually supports your assertion, while there *is* evidence to refute it:
o The woman seems anything but uncomfortable, since she was part of the
"conversation for three", and she's the one who asked *him* to dance.
o The entire song is written from the man's point of view; why would the
perspective change for the very last line? And if it *is* supposed to
be that way, why would the songwriter have not made it more clear? Keep
in mind that these are abundantly experienced songwriters.
o The printed lyrics that come with the CD have just the words "We'll see"
enclosed in quotes; the following line that you claim to be spoken (or
thought) by the woman are not in quotes.
(OK, I can already hear the shouts of "WHO CARES!!", so I'm going to
drop this once and for all...*now* I hear shouts of "YAY!!").
Greg Vaughn
"She laughs like it's going out of style"
after he asks to see her again, makes me think that he really struck out.
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