skillet lickers...1st vs of Soldiers Joy...what the heck is he sayin!?!
Doug
recording...
All the other verses no problem...1st one has me stumped...think the first
word is "Chicken"...beyond that ???
Help?
Duc de Savoie
>word is "Chicken"...beyond that ?
Chicken in the bread tray scratchin' out dough
Granny, will your dog bite? No, chile, no.
Ladies in the center, gents catch air.
Hold her there, don't let her rear.
Bud
12-stringer
"Duc de Savoie" <ducde...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hold 'er, _Newt_, don't let her rear (to rhyme with 'air'), I believe
"Hold 'er, Newt," was something I used to hear as a kid, 50-odd yrs ago in
WV; does it derive from a song or a joke or some other catchphrase (19th
century origin, almost certainly)?
RT
>
> Bud
Mike Schway
<7LIu8.26167$Rw2.2...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"12-stringer" <12-s...@d-12-20.org> wrote:
> > Chicken in the bread tray scratchin' out dough
> > Granny, will your dog bite? No, chile, no.
> > Ladies in the center, gents catch air.
> > Hold her there, don't let her rear.
>
> Hold 'er, _Newt_, don't let her rear (to rhyme with 'air'), I believe
And I thought it was "Hold that mule, don't let 'er rear (or rare).
Thanks for the 3rd line. Makes much more sense than "Play little
sinners, can't ya catch air"
Another one for the mondegreen file. :-)
--Mike
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Library Guy
<12-s...@d-12-20.org> wrote:
>Hold 'er, _Newt_, don't let her rear (to rhyme with 'air'), I believe
>
>"Hold 'er, Newt," was something I used to hear as a kid, 50-odd yrs ago in
>WV; does it derive from a song or a joke or some other catchphrase (19th
>century origin, almost certainly)?
Yeah, like in the old song "Sadie Green, The Vamp Of New Orleans".
"She makes the bald men tear their hair
Now hold 'er, Newt, don't let 'er rare"
LG
Doug
Love those old-time lyrics!
"Mike Schway" <msc...@nas.com> wrote in message
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Joan Halloran
ago, "Hold 'er, Newt, she's rarin' for the barn!" (OK, it was "bahn" up
there) and I've heard it here in North Carolina as, "Hold 'er, Newt, she's
rarin' for the bean patch!" My inclination is that it came from one of the
early newspaper cartoons, like "Out Our Way" (Major Hoople) or "Gasoline
Alley" or something like that. It had to be something with fairly wide
distribution to have stuck in so many minds.
John Currie
"12-stringer" <12-s...@d-12-20.org> wrote in message
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> "Duc de Savoie" <ducde...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
Brittles
<< ..."Hold 'er, Newt, she's rarin' for the barn!" (OK, it was "bahn" up
there) and I've heard it here in North Carolina as, "Hold 'er, Newt, she's
rarin' for the bean patch!" My inclination is that it came from one of theearly
newspaper cartoons, like "Out Our Way" (Major Hoople) or "GasolineAlley" or
something like that. It had to be something with fairly wide distribution to
have stuck in so many minds.>>
Did a quick Google search of: "Hold 'er Newt"
all sorts of hits - seems to be a song done in the 1920's - on the Vaugh label,
by Theodore Shaw.
Several others did it as well. Jimmie Davis... etc.
Now how about: "Katie bar the door!"
Ed Britt
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Dan Gellert
brit...@aol.comUNSPAM wrote on 4/16/02 8:26 PM:
> <<John Currie >>
>
> << ..."Hold 'er, Newt, she's rarin' for the barn!" (OK, it was "bahn" up
> there) and I've heard it here in North Carolina as, "Hold 'er, Newt, she's
> rarin' for the bean patch!" My inclination is that it came from one of
I always thought it was "hold her NOOSE" (i.e. the lasso you've got around
the neck of an unruly horse to keep her from rearing).
Dan
John Heine
Brittles wrote in message <20020416212640...@mb-fc.aol.com>...
<snip>
>Now how about: "Katie bar the door!"
>
Lefcadio Hearn for one, reported the phrase "Katie barred the door" in the
lyrics of "Number Ninety-Nine", a song "at one time immensely popular with
the steamboatmen" frequenting the saloons in Cincinnati's Bucktown
neighborhood. ("Levee Life", Cincinnati Commercial, March 17, 1876).
Regards,
John Heine
Kerry Blech
> Brittles wrote:
> >Now how about: "Katie bar the door!"
> >
> Lefcadio Hearn for one, reported the phrase "Katie barred the door" in the
> lyrics of "Number Ninety-Nine", a song "at one time immensely popular with
> the steamboatmen" frequenting the saloons in Cincinnati's Bucktown
> neighborhood. ("Levee Life", Cincinnati Commercial, March 17, 1876).
Roscoe Parish played a tune called "Katy Bar the Door," but I don't know
if it is related to "No. 99," with which I have no familiarity. Might
be worth checking into, as Roscoe was prone to play as old time
instrumentals pieces that were once popular songs.
Best,
Kerry
Jack Aldrich
teens, I believe. I've seen these strips in anthologies and histories
of comics. Barney's race horse was named Sparkplug, and his stable hand
was named Newt. The strip was immensely popular, and several hit pop
tunes from the 20's were about the strip, namely "Barney Google, With
his Goo Goo Googley Eyes". By my childhood in the 40's, the strip had
morphed into "Snuffy Smith", about a stereotyped hillbilly.
Joel Shimberg
>instrumentals pieces that were once popular songs.
>Best,
>Kerry
So was DIck Summers, and I suspect that it was and is very, very
common. All I need is the first three notes of the background to about
any r/b song from 1955 to 1960 and the whole thing pops into my head.
Popular songs from our early teens seem to have an independent life up
there in the memory banks.
Joel, King of the Doo-Whoppers
James N. Stewart
"Brittles" <brit...@aol.comUNSPAM> wrote in message
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> <<John Currie >>
>
> << ..."Hold 'er, Newt, she's rarin' for the barn!" (OK, it was "bahn" up
> there) and I've heard it here in North Carolina as, "Hold 'er, Newt, she's
> rarin' for the bean patch!" My inclination is that it came from one of
theearly
> newspaper cartoons, like "Out Our Way" (Major Hoople) or "GasolineAlley"
or
> something like that. It had to be something with fairly wide distribution
to
> have stuck in so many minds.>>
>
>
>
> Did a quick Google search of: "Hold 'er Newt"
>
> all sorts of hits - seems to be a song done in the 1920's - on the Vaugh
label,
> by Theodore Shaw.
>
I never noticed the phrase in the Skillet Lickers' records. I always
associated it with Sadie Green as recorded by Turk Murphy on a rare old
record called Dancing Jazz. "She'd make a bald man tear his hair/ Hold her
Newt, Don't let her rair [sic]." this line never produced much of a
reaction because it is no sillier than the rest of the song.
John Heine
Kerry Blech wrote in message <3CBD7D98...@attbi.com>...
I'm not familiar with the Parish's "Katy Bar the Door" and Hearn doesn't
notate the tune "No. 99" but some of the lyrics he quotes suggests it might
be of the 'going down the river/cindy' family:
Whar do you get yer whisky?/ Whar do you get your rum?
I got it down in Bucktown,/ At Number Ninety-nine.
Chorus__Oh, ain't I gone, gone, gone,/ Oh, ain't I gone, gone, gone,
Oh, ain't I gone, gone, gone,/ Way down de ribber road
You may talk about yer railroads,/ Yer steamboats and can-el
If 't hadn't been for Liza Jane/ There wouldn't bin no hell.
Hearn also comments that the words, "'Way down to Rockingham,' are sometimes
substituted in the chorus, for "'way down de ribber road.'"
Kerry, I'll ask you to play that 'Katy Bar the Door' next month at the Bluff
Country Gathering.
Regards,
John Heine
Kerry Blech
> Kerry, I'll ask you to play that 'Katy Bar the Door' next month at the Bluff
> Country Gathering.
Now you're puttin' me on the spot! I'd planned on having a few of
Roscoe Parish's tunes ready to teach in the classes there, so
I'll try and polish that one up. Your wish is my command!
See you then,
kerry
Steve Goldfield
Great (and very pretty) tune. I think you can still buy a
copy of the LP with Roscoe Parish playing it on banjo from
Alice Gerrard. She had some left last time I checked.
Steve
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Kerry and Sheila Blech
"Kerry Blech" said:
> Roscoe Parish played a tune called "Katy Bar the Door," but I don't know
> if it is related to "No. 99," with which I have no familiarity. Might
> be worth checking into, as Roscoe was prone to play as old time
> instrumentals pieces that were once popular songs.
In addition to having it on tape, it also appears on Heritage LP 070
"The Old Time Way" (1986), as played by Roscoe Parish.
Here is what the notes say:
Katy Bar the Door (D). Roscoe Parish, banjo (ADADE).
Recorded by Tom Carter 3-9-74.
Roscoe remembered the following verse to this simple and
beautiful tune:
Katy bar your door,
Katy bar your door,
The Indians jumping all around your house,
Katy bar your door.
Dan Tate of nearby Fancy Gap plays it on the banjo and
sings several verses which suggest blackface minstrel origins.
Both Luther Davis and Tommy Jarrell remembered hearing
Katy Bar the Door when they were young, but never since then.
--
This LP (two vinyl disks, one of Luther Davis, one of Roscoe and Leone
Parish, produced by Andy Cahan and Alice Gerrard) probably is
still available from Alice. She told me she still had some a couple years
ago. It is a wonderful recording.
Best,
Kerry
Peter Feldmann
<john.w....@boeing.com> wrote:
>The phrase was used in the comic strip "Barney Google" back in the
>teens, I believe. I've seen these strips in anthologies and histories
>of comics. Barney's race horse was named Sparkplug, and his stable hand
>was named Newt. The strip was immensely popular, and several hit pop
>tunes from the 20's were about the strip, namely "Barney Google, With
>his Goo Goo Googley Eyes". By my childhood in the 40's, the strip had
>morphed into "Snuffy Smith", about a stereotyped hillbilly.
Don't forget "Lil' Abner". Of which, a broadway musical was made.
__Peter Feldmann
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