A good book for learning fiddle backup?
tonyg
recommendable. Ive done the listening and know the idiom. I want
something that lays it out nice and clear
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Ericplatt
Different folks like hearing different things in backup.
I've only been actively participating in an old-time jam for 8 months or so
(listened to quite a bit of old time before then), but I've found out that
going out and playing is a lot different than reading about it in a book.
I really had a problem with overplaying when I started, and now I've gotten
that pretty much resolved (although I still throw in too many IV chords!).
Plus, if you can find a jam, this will also help you work on tempo issues,
which seem to be a common problem in jam sessions<g>.
Eric Platt
Blech Family (Kerry & Sheila)
> Is there a book on learnig backup guitar for old fiddle tunes that is
> recommendable. Ive done the listening and know the idiom. I want
> something that lays it out nice and clear
I've not seen one, at least nothing that investigates, parses, and
analyzes the old styles of guitar backup. I'm not sure there is
that much market for it, otherwise I'd have imagined someone
would have done it.
Studying the backup of Asa Martin (especially on his sides
with Doc Roberts), Hub Mahaffey (of Dykes' Magic City Trio),
Jimmie Carter (for the outre' backup, with Carter Brothers &
Son), Luches Kessinger (of Kessinger "Brothers" recordings),
John Peacock (of Smith's Garage Fiddle Band), Shel Smith
(for minimalist approach, of Narmour & Smith) would be
a great exercise in the older approaches of backup. But
it would be an ear-brain-hand exercise and not one of
reading. I figure you've already listened to those gems I
cited above, but I can't think of anyone who's put those
approaches down on paper.
Another secret, I think, in getting *that* sound, is finding
the right guitar -- that rules out dreadnaughts, in my opinion.
A nice slotted head small-bodied Martin might work, most
small-bodied pre-War Gibsons, and a whole slew of
mail-order small-bodied guitars, like those purveyed by
Sears and MonkyWard. You want clear tone and fast decay,
reliable bass, but not boomy.
If you want the sound of the '60s old-time recordings, there was
more influence at that time from bluegrass guitar styles and you
might want something like a larger-bodied Gibson (J-45, for
example) or Martin Dreadnaughts (and the better knock-offs).
Good luck in your search, and please report any progress,
Kerry
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Jerry Dallal
: Is there a book on learnig backup guitar for old fiddle tunes that is
: recommendable. Ive done the listening and know the idiom. I want
: something that lays it out nice and clear
I was about to ask the same question.
I'd be grateful if replies to the original poster could be posted
to the ng.
Thanks.
mhofer
information,
there are usually about 17 guitars to every fiddle or banjo. That makes it
tougher to pick up new stuff, unless you know the other players very well.
Heres a few tips for what its worth.
When you are in back up on any instrument, thats the key to remember, you
are there for support of the melody, so as a rule of thumb, root then fifth
and then chord strums are pretty standard. Of course some chords playing
root and fifth is not practicle, so switch, root then fifth below (such
as D, you hit D , the chord then an open A string). Small lead ins to the
root during chord changes, and the occasional Flatt run, not to be overused,
and thats about all there is to it generally. Most of the time you will
playing simple major chords, occasionally minor and occasionally a major
7th, be familiar with all of them in differant positions on the neck. Its
tiresome to play in one spot for any length of time. This is all pretty
basic stuff I know.
Its not a great deal differant then when you are accompanying yourself sing.
Thats a good way to practice too. Sing the song and accompany yourself. No
words? Humm it.
Good pickin to you
Michael
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Jack Aldrich
was a great help to me when I was getting started. Also, John Cohen's
playing with the NLCR.
tonyg wrote:
>
> Is there a book on learnig backup guitar for old fiddle tunes that is
> recommendable. Ive done the listening and know the idiom. I want
> something that lays it out nice and clear
>
Mike Schway
<john.w....@boeing.com> wrote:
>I recommend listening to Roy Harvey playing behind Charlie Poole. It
>was a great help to me when I was getting started. Also, John Cohen's
>playing with the NLCR.
And to this, I'll add: Asa Martin behind Doc Roberts!!!
Earlier in the thread, Lyle Lofgren wrote:
>But what about sounding like Riley Puckett?
>To my ear, he played the greatest backup guitar ever, and he showed
>one way to provide a fiddle band with a solid foundation and play
>interesting guitar at the same time.
Well, as San Diego folk-impresario Lou Curtiss mentioned to me way back
when I was a zit-faced college student: "You either love him or you hate
him." I would have to agree. Mostly, I find myself utterly energized by
his playing. A polymodal, polyrhythmic monster of a man. Sometimes he
breaks into something rhythmically which would be far more approprate in
a waltz, but against the playing of McMichen et al, it's GRREATT in a
hoedown!
I can never play '4c cotton' without wishing the person to my right was
blind and played with 2 fingers.
Yet, how can any sane person defend his treatment of Rye Straw???? ;-)
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> Is there a book on learnig backup guitar for old fiddle tunes that is
> recommendable. Ive done the listening and know the idiom. I want
> something that lays it out nice and clear
>
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> Before you buy.
Of course you will get many opinions, all of them good. I will
offer some perspective.
A. Try to agree on what chords you will play, especially if you have
both piano and guitar. Don't just "fake it".
B. Yes, basic alternating bass is usually the ticket.
C. After playing the tune 5 times, you may want to work some dynamics
in to give it a different sound. Frequently it is good to do
something different on the A part, then go back to alternating bass
on the B part. Such as:
1. Just strum on the downbeat of the chord changes only.
2. Maybe combine that with blocking/muting.
3. Just strum the upbeats only, very lightly.
D. Just don't go so far overboard that you forget the beat.
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tonyg
tonyg <tony...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is there a book on learnig backup guitar for old fiddle tunes that is
> recommendable. Ive done the listening and know the idiom. I want
> something that lays it out nice and clear
>
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> Before you buy.
bit. I would like to note that the question was about finding a book to
lay it out for me. Only one person responded to that question. All the
rest were opinions about what to listen to and how to do it.
Interesting but not germane. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the
thoug
Mark Abbott
In article <86eev9$8as$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
tonyg <tony...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is there a book on learnig backup guitar for old fiddle tunes that is
> recommendable. Ive done the listening and know the idiom. I want
> something that lays it out nice and clear
>
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> Before you buy.
> Thankyou to every one who took the time to help me.I learned quite a
>>>rest were opinions about what to listen to and how to do it.
>Interesting but not germane. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the
>thoug
Well listening is in fact the best way to learn to play I don't think
there is a book written that can show you the subtle changes or pauses--
fiddle tunes are meant to be played not written
Listen to riley puckett,sam mcgee,macky vanoy,cloet hamman paul sutphin
and countless others
You want a book read read cold mountain
you want to play guitar LISTEN<LISTEN LISTEN
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Mark Duncan Abbott
"Lord Help Us Get It Right"
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Kerry Blech
>
> tonyg <tony...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Is there a book on learnig backup guitar for old fiddle tunes that is
> > recommendable. Ive done the listening and know the idiom. I want
> > something that lays it out nice and clear
> >
> lay it out for me. Only one person responded to that question. All the
> Interesting but not germane. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the
Just a followup here. I think I need to let everyone know
that Tony is a very accomplished old-time fiddler and
banjo player. It's not like he doesn't know the idiom --
he's very familiar with it. I'd also wager that he's
heard most of the recordings and guitarist we've all
be citing to him. My feeling is that he is looking for
a shortcut to get started or to lay out some of the
things he hears. This is in lieu of an accomplished
and skillful old-time guitarist near him to learn from.
Peter McCracken is a great backup guitarist, Tony,
and he must still live fairly close to you, so
maybe you can get some pointers from him to get started?
Just a thought.
Kerry
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Ericplatt
>bit. I would like to note that the question was about finding a book to
>lay it out for me. Only one person responded to that question. All the
>rest were opinions about what to listen to and how to do it.
>Interesting but not germane. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the
>thoug
>
Okay, then how about this book for an idea? The Flat-Picker's Guitar Guide,
written by Jerry Silverman and published by Oak Publications back in 1966.
While it does teach quite a bit of bluegrass (and folk) lead guitar, there is
also some useful information on rhythm playing.
I found my copy at a musical flea market a year or so ago. I have no idea if
it's still in print, but it's worth checking out.
Hopefully that's a bit more helpful.
Eric Platt
art healer
tonyg <tony...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a book on learnig backup guitar for old fiddle tunes that is
> recommendable. Ive done the listening and know the idiom. I want
> something that lays it out nice and clear
I've read all the posts thus far and I think all the suggestions could
probably be taken to heart. A fiddle player will tell you (if you are
failing) how to approach a piece to accent the melody. Rhythm is of the
utmost importance to a fiddler especially in a slow piece (ie. waltz) where
there is nothing to drive the tune except the guitar, and a draggy guitar
can be a 'real drag'!
It helped me in the beginning to record some fiddlers at jams/festivals and
such and play along with them at home where it isn't so disruptive and
experimentation is encouraged:) But, as someone already said, there is
nothing like playing with others to hone what you thought you knew at home.
Many old time players play several instruments and this also helps to build
your capacity to 'hear' a tune. . . .knowing what you like and don't and
attempting to imitate what you do. Good luck and try to find those players.
. . . .a lot of times what you learn out of a book is not what really
happens in a jam. .. .
choo
Tommy Jackson's long illustrious career???From the '50's to
the '70's he had all types of fiddle tunes that had some of the
best rhythm guitar players known to humanity on them. Ray
Edenton dominated the Nashville scene as a rhythm picker. See
if you can find any of Tommy's albums and listen to the licks in
the background. You'll be pleasantly awarded...by the way,
picking beats reading anytime..
Choo
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hear Riley Baugus or Jim Lloyd
play old time backup guitar, you
are in for a treat. They are probably
the best of the new generation.
Eddie
Kerry Blech
choo wrote:
> See
> if you can find any of Tommy's albums and listen to the licks in
> the background. You'll be pleasantly awarded...
I have a bunch of Tommy Jackson's LPs, and I love them
for his playing, but the snare drum really bugs me on
a lot of the cuts.... Once I get my digital editing
software installed and running, I may be able to
clean the scratches off those cuts and by experimenting
may be able to EQ or filter out the drums. *Then,*
I can really appreciate Jackson's fiddling.
Lyle Lofgren
wrote:
>
>I have a bunch of Tommy Jackson's LPs, and I love them
>for his playing, but the snare drum really bugs me on
>a lot of the cuts.... Once I get my digital editing
>software installed and running, I may be able to
>clean the scratches off those cuts and by experimenting
>may be able to EQ or filter out the drums. *Then,*
>I can really appreciate Jackson's fiddling.
>Kerry
You might be able to edit out the scratches, Kerry, but I don't see
how you can easily separate snare drum, which includes just about all
the audible frequencies of a fiddle, from the fiddling itself. You
could go through the piece manually, cutting out what looks like snare
drum beats, then pasting in matching fiddle notes from an off beat (if
available), but that's going to be a lot of work just to appreciate
Tommy Jackson's fiddling. Two suggestions:
1. Appreciate G.B. Grayson instead, who never thought of using snare
drums for backup.
2. Find some high-quality west-coast herb (get a prescription if
necessary) which allows the patient to appreciate painful experiences,
including snare drums.
Kerry Blech
> You
> could go through the piece manually, cutting out what looks like snare
> drum beats, then pasting in matching fiddle notes from an off beat (if
> available), but that's going to be a lot of work just to appreciate
> Tommy Jackson's fiddling.
I've gotten myself into more tedious propositions, so it is
not out of the question <g>.
> Two suggestions:
>
> 1. Appreciate G.B. Grayson instead, who never thought of using snare
> drums for backup.
Ohhhhh, you never read Henry Whitter's memoire about how
Grayson was planning on breaking up their duo to go to Cuba to play with
the drummers down there? Then the fatal accident....
> 2. Find some high-quality west-coast herb (get a prescription if
> necessary) which allows the patient to appreciate painful experiences,
> including snare drums.
I'll stick with Goldenseal and continue to dislike drumming. I
have no urge to strip off my clothes and run around the woods
with a bunch of guys beating on drums, thank you...
Now if Tommy had used a bass drum instead of snares, it'd
be ok.......
Bill Richardson
It's a country beat- listen to Jimmy Rogers!
Joel Shimberg
lofg...@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Lyle Lofgren) wrote:
....
>1. Appreciate G.B. Grayson instead, who never thought of using snare
>drums for backup.
According to Joe Wilson (if I remember correctly), Grayson wanted a
drummer, but the only one he knew was an old-time traveling salesman.
Joel the Liar
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Lyle Lofgren
wrote:
>
>I'll stick with Goldenseal and continue to dislike drumming. I
>have no urge to strip off my clothes and run around the woods
>with a bunch of guys beating on drums, thank you...
I don't think Goldenseal is legal in Minnesota. But we are the home
of, not just Jesse (the body AND mind) Ventura, but also Robert Bly.
He was the first one (as far as I know) to recommend that we all run
around in the woods beating on drums, in order to regain touch with
our mascular selves, before we suffer mascular degeneration. Too bad
his poetry is crap.
>Now if Tommy had used a bass drum instead of snares, it'd
>be ok.......
>
Yup -- you could automate a method for getting rid of it. This should
be a lesson for anyone making a CD. If you're doing something
artistically fantastic, do it at a frequency that can be edited out
later.
Apropos of nothing, but apropos just the same (to quote a favorite
modern song), we're catching the Amtrak tomorrow morning for the U. of
Chicago Folk Festival, after a 10-year hiatus. All the hotels in the
neighborhood are closed for conversion into condominiums or some such
monstrosities, so we could only get a downtown hotel. I fervently
hope Adenoids Hall hasn't changed one bit!
Steve Goldfield
Jim Nelson <nels...@law.wustl.edu> wrote:
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#>Kerry Blech wrote:
#><blockquote TYPE=CITE>choo wrote:
#><br>> See
#><br>> if you can find any of Tommy's albums and listen to the licks in
#><br>> the background. You'll be pleasantly awarded...
#><p>I have a bunch of Tommy Jackson's LPs, and I love them
#><br>for his playing, but the snare drum really bugs me on
#><br>a lot of the cuts....</blockquote>
#>Well, Kerry, you ought to go scrounge up his Dot 78s made in the early
#>fifties. They still can be readily found all over the countryside
#>and were also issued as 45 and/or 331/3 rpm EPs. Good fiddling, with
#>guitar, mando, and bass for back-up. Not a drum anywhere, though
#>Lyle's idea might be a good one just the same.
#><p>Jim</html>
One of the interesting things about Tommy Jackson is that
although I don't think of him as an old-time fiddler (I
still like his fiddling), I've heard several old-time
fiddlers say that they listened to him and were influenced
by him.
Steve
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Paul Tyler
> One of the interesting things about Tommy Jackson is that
> although I don't think of him as an old-time fiddler (I
> still like his fiddling), I've heard several old-time
> fiddlers say that they listened to him and were influenced
> by him.
Why would you not think of Tommy Jackson as an old time fiddler? Just
because he could play in more than one style? Or because he was a
professional?
Paul "just curious" Tyler
Steve Goldfield
#>Steve Goldfield wrote:
#>> One of the interesting things about Tommy Jackson is that
#>> although I don't think of him as an old-time fiddler (I
#>> still like his fiddling), I've heard several old-time
#>> fiddlers say that they listened to him and were influenced
#>> by him.
#>
#>Why would you not think of Tommy Jackson as an old time fiddler? Just
#>because he could play in more than one style? Or because he was a
#>professional?
#>
#>Paul "just curious" Tyler
He just doesn't sound old-time to me, at least the bit that
I've heard. I don't know anything about his background.
Do you consider him to be an old-time fiddler? Obviously,
there could be recordings that I haven't heard in which
he plays differently.
Steve
Jon Pankake
Does anyone know an older or different source for this tune?
Jon Pankake
Kerry Blech
Jim Nelson wrote:
>
> Well, Kerry, you ought to go scrounge up his Dot 78s made in the early
> were also issued as 45 and/or 331/3 rpm EPs. Good fiddling, with
> guitar, mando, and bass for back-up. Not a drum anywhere, though
> Lyle's idea might be a good one just the same.
What is the title of that one?
Kerry Blech
Steve Goldfield wrote:
>
>
> He just doesn't sound old-time to me, at least the bit that
> I've heard. I don't know anything about his background.
> Do you consider him to be an old-time fiddler? Obviously,
> there could be recordings that I haven't heard in which
> he plays differently.
Following on what Steve and PaulCuriousTyler said,
so many of the older fiddlers I've met also said they had
learned tunes from listening to Tommy on the radio and
many had his records. His rendition of "Tomahawk" for instance
is particularly widespread. Once I heard Bob Holt play it
and realized it was nearly identical to the way that Ward
Jarvis played it (both cited Jackson as their inspiration and
source) -- Bob is from Douglas County, Missouri and Ward
was then living in Athens County, Ohio), I decided I needed
to find that recording. I did, and both those fiddlers
accurately depicted how Jackson played it. That's a real
representation of old-time fiddling to my ear and aesthetics.
There are several other tunes that I've had similar experiences
like this one.
Later
Kerry Blech
tracing it. It seems to be his reworking of "Lonesome
Indian" (Tommy Magness) to my ear. Comments?
Kerry
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Steve Goldfield
Kerry Blech <Blec...@Wolfenet.com> wrote:
#>
#>
#>Steve Goldfield wrote:
#>>
#>> He just doesn't sound old-time to me, at least the bit that
#>> I've heard. I don't know anything about his background.
#>> Do you consider him to be an old-time fiddler? Obviously,
#>> there could be recordings that I haven't heard in which
#>> he plays differently.
#>
#>Following on what Steve and PaulCuriousTyler said,
#>so many of the older fiddlers I've met also said they had
#>learned tunes from listening to Tommy on the radio and
#>many had his records. His rendition of "Tomahawk" for instance
#>is particularly widespread. Once I heard Bob Holt play it
#>and realized it was nearly identical to the way that Ward
#>Jarvis played it (both cited Jackson as their inspiration and
#>source) -- Bob is from Douglas County, Missouri and Ward
#>was then living in Athens County, Ohio), I decided I needed
#>to find that recording. I did, and both those fiddlers
#>accurately depicted how Jackson played it. That's a real
#>representation of old-time fiddling to my ear and aesthetics.
#>
#>There are several other tunes that I've had similar experiences
#>like this one.
#>
#>Later
#>Kerry
I guess I've got to search out more of his recordings.
The only CD I could find on the web is the one I have.
arno
>He's as far back as I've been able to go with
>tracing it. It seems to be his reworking of "Lonesome
>Indian" (Tommy Magness) to my ear. Comments?
>Kerry
>
>Jon Pankake wrote:
>>
>> As far as I know, Tommy Jackson is the source for "Cherokee Shuffle."
>> Does anyone know an older or different source for this tune?
>>
>> Jon Pankake
It is Tommy Magness, but many learned it from Tommy Jackson recordings. Even
Dave Freeman seems to believe it's a Tommy Jackson tune--in some recent review
he berated a band for not crediting it. But Magness is the One True Source.
Peter Fraissinet
West Danby, NY
Kerry Blech
Steve Goldfield wrote:
>
>
> I guess I've got to search out more of his recordings.
> The only CD I could find on the web is the one I have.
>
I don't know anything about TJ's CD(s). to fully
appreciate his playing, you need to hear it on
LP, 45, or radio transcription!
Kerry
Robert Palasek
>
> Following on what Steve and PaulCuriousTyler said,
I once read somewhere that for one period
the only commonly available fiddle recordings were
from Tommy Jackson and from Howdy Forrester. And so theirs were
the repertoire that folks tended to learn.
On the other hand, I'm sure that, given a chance,
folks on this list can point out hundreds of recordings from
other than Jackson and Forrester during that same time frame.
Bob
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Kerry Blech
Robert Palasek wrote:
>
> I once read somewhere that for one period
> the only commonly available fiddle recordings were
> from Tommy Jackson and from Howdy Forrester. And so theirs were
> the repertoire that folks tended to learn.
I'd say that the majority of those old-timers I talked to
who claim influence from Tommy Jackson or learned his tunes
heard him on the radio and did not learn from records.
The other huge radio influence, at least in the South and
Southeast, seems to be Arthur Smith. Bob Walter seems to
have had a similar hold on the collective fiddling imaginations
of the Midwest. Lonnie Robertson, too.
I'd like to hear about well-known and not-so-well-known radio
fiddlers of yore from different parts of the country (or
continent) of the old-time bent -- so put on your thinking
caps, you all. Such individuals probably even today might
have some measurable degree of influence over regional
repertoires and styles. Different timeframes must be
considered as well, such as the '30s fiddlers, the '40s fiddlers,
and the '50s fiddlers.
I recall some of my Cleveland relatives mentioning hearing
Clayton McMichen doing local radio broadcasts, 'thirties, I think.
Owen "Snake" Chapman claims Arthur Smith (and other Opry
fiddlers, as well) as one of his early influences while Snake
grew up in Eastern Kentucky, then he himself played over the
radio, from Williamson, WV (and maybe Pound, VA?) for regional
broadcasts, definitely not as wide-ranging and influential
over as wide an area as a clear-channel station, but more than
likely influencing many of his peer and the up-and-coming
youngsters glued to the earphones of their crystal sets.
Best regards,
kerry
Steve Goldfield
if I remember correctly, that had fiddling all night
on Friday nights. We'll have to ask him if he recalls
the names of any of the fiddlers he heard. Somebody
must also have been listening to Uncle Jimmie and
the many other fiddlers who appeared on WSM and the
Grand Ole Opry. They got fan mail from just about
every state (Hawaii and Alaska, of course, weren't
states back then). (Actually, I think they got
fan telegrams in those days per Charles Wolfe's
book on the early days of the Opry.)
Jim Nelson
> I'd like to hear about well-known and not-so-well-known radio
> fiddlers of yore from different parts of the country (or
> continent) of the old-time bent -- so put on your thinking
> caps, you all. Such individuals probably even today might
> have some measurable degree of influence over regional
> repertoires and styles. Different timeframes must be
> considered as well, such as the '30s fiddlers, the '40s fiddlers,
> and the '50s fiddlers.
>
Here are a few I've heard or heard mention of here and there:
Paul Warren (played with Johnnie and Jack (with Kitty Wells) on the
Louisiana
Hayride, and later with Flatt and Scruggs) Bob Holt mentions
him a lot.
Judging from his style and some of his repertoire, I'd say
Warren was himself
influenced by Arthur Smith.
Slim Miller (played with the Cumberland Ridge Runners on WLS Barndance
and
was one of the first house fiddlers on the Renfro Valley Barn
Dance)
Leslie Keith (played with the Stanley Brothers, the Blue Sky Boys and
others
in East TN and North Carolina, and is credited with composing
"Black Mt.
Blues.")
Casey Jones of Columbia, KY (played with Uncle Henry's Original
Kentucky
Mountaineers on WHAS in Louisville, and probably most
importantly, on
the Suppertime Frolic on WJJD in Chicago. Before that he was a
well-known
contest fiddler in Kentucky)
Natchee the Indian (I don't know much about this guy, except that he
was a show
fiddler (not that good I'm told) who knew a few tunes, and who
would stage
fiddle contests all over. He was on the radio in Cincinatti
and St. Louis, and
I'm sure, elsewhere.
Buster Fellers was a popular fiddler on radio and later, TV in
Springfield, MO as
was Slim Wilson.
Warner Carver (of the Carver Boys) along with brother Noble played on
radio
station WDZ in Tuscola, IL and later as the Georgie Porgie
Boys on the radio
in Kansas City, MO.
Wade Ray started out as a radio fiddler on KMOX in St. Louis about
1933.
Kerry mentioned Lonnie Robertson. He played all over the place, from
St. Joseph, MO to Yankton, South Dakota, to Tuscola, IL, to
Springfield, MO, to Harrisonburg, VA, to Del Rio, TX.
Any more?
Jim Nelson
.
Al Christians
>
> Slim Miller (played with the Cumberland Ridge Runners on WLS Barndance
> and was one of the first house fiddlers on the Renfro Valley Barn
> Dance)
They recorded a rip-snorting version of "Hell Among the Yearlings"; was
he the
fiddler on that one? Any recordings now in available?
Al
Wayne Erbsen
far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
Please email your favorites to me at ba...@circle.net
Wayne Erbsen
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Carl Baron
Wayne Erbsen wrote:
> I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names. My favorite so
> far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
>
The best has got to be "Snouts and Ears of America".
Carl
Library Guy
>The best has got to be "Snouts and Ears of America".
What about "Maggots In the Sheeps Hide"?
=============================
Frank Dalton, Library Guy
=============================
GNelson700
"Johnny took a razor and cut up Jimmy Frazier"
nelson
Carl Baron
Library Guy wrote:
> >The best has got to be "Snouts and Ears of America".
>
> What about "Maggots In the Sheeps Hide"?
Well, that might get #2. It might be #1 in the category of gross
descriptive titles.
Carl
Kerry Blech
GNelson700 wrote:
> >I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names.
> "Johnny took a razor and cut up Jimmy Frazier"
That seems to be a line from "The Coon That had the Razor,"
but bowdlerized.
Kerry
Kerry Blech
Wayne Erbsen wrote:
>
> I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names.
"Joe."
fiddlesticks
recording of Marcus and Wayne Martin
Wayne Erbsen <ba...@circle.net> wrote in message
news:38A0E0...@circle.net...
> I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names. My favorite so
> far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
>
Bo Parker
> I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names. My favorite so
> far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
Good for the Tongue Hornpipe
Sheep Shell Corn by the Rattling of His Horn
Nail That Catfish to a Tree
Bonaparte Crossing the Rocky Mountains (not really funny, just weird)
-Bo Parker
There's not really an "x" in my email address.
Edward Baggott
: I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names. My favorite so
: far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
: Please email your favorites to me at ba...@circle.net
: Wayne Erbsen
There's a tune in the O'Carolan collection called "Cock Up Your
Beaver".
I think Derek Bell recorded it.
Yrs,
Ed
Steve Goldfield
Bo Parker <fbpa...@hixwaay.net> wrote:
#>Wayne Erbsen <ba...@circle.net> wrote:
#>
#>> I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names. My favorite so
#>> far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
#>
#>
#>Good for the Tongue Hornpipe
#>
#>Sheep Shell Corn by the Rattling of His Horn
#>
#>Nail That Catfish to a Tree
#>
#>Bonaparte Crossing the Rocky Mountains (not really funny, just weird)
#>
#>
#>-Bo Parker
I've always liked
The Old Cow Died in the Forks of the Branch (Clyde Davenport)
(not funny but definitely interesting)
You Married My Daughter But You Didn't
(this one is funny and leads to all sorts of speculation)
Then there's
It's Been Reel (not sure if I'm spelling the name right,
but I think it's by John Reischman)
Steve
Lyle Lofgren
wrote:
>The Old Cow Died in the Forks of the Branch (Clyde Davenport)
>(not funny but definitely interesting)
My mother (no longer available for further questioning) claimed to
have heard, when she was young (circa 1910), a fiddle tune entitled
The Tune The Old Cow Died Of
but she never whistled it for me, so I have no other information about
it. Another fiddle tune she mentioned had "appendicitis" in it, but
I unfortunately can't remember the rest of the title.
>
>It's Been Reel (not sure if I'm spelling the name right,
>but I think it's by John Reischman)
If I remember right, the Good Old Persons spelled it "Itsbn Reel." I
remember it as having an interesting tune.
LukeHiNite
These are some, collected between 1920-1950; deemed of "no folkloristic value"
by one of Randolph's college professors.
Biggest Prick In The Neighborhood
Devil was A Whittler
Four Thumbs and Two Left Feet
Everybody Knows what Maggie Done
Hell To Pay In Tulsa
It's Good For Your Knockers
Like It or Lump It
Kick High Toody
Josie Shuck Her Pants Down
Monkey On A Stick
More Holler Than Wool
No Pitch Hot
Put sugar On It
Shirt Tail West
Shoot Her With A Leather Gun
Squaw In The Canebrake
Stick It In The Middle
Texas Cow Thief
Where Is My Pants At
Wiggle Ass Jig
Wild Hair Frolic
also:
Where's My Other Foot?
many more...DaDa
pvc
John W. Beland
"None of Your Business".
(What's the name of that tune? - None of Your Business)
Wayne Erbsen wrote:
> I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names. My favorite so
> far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
>
> Please email your favorites to me at ba...@circle.net
>
> Wayne Erbsen
Bill Elliott
Hand Organ Hornpipe
--
Sincerely,
Bill Elliott
Orangeville Fiddle and Step Dance Camp
http://www.fiddle.on.ca
bell...@easyfocus.com
More fun than a fall fair.....
ChAlDavis
from a Pennsylvania fiddler.
Alan Davis
Lyle Lofgren
Lofgren) wrote:
>My mother (no longer available for further questioning) claimed to
>have heard, when she was young (circa 1910), a fiddle tune entitled
>
>The Tune The Old Cow Died Of
>
>but she never whistled it for me, so I have no other information about
>it. Another fiddle tune she mentioned had "appendicitis" in it, but
>I unfortunately can't remember the rest of the title.
It came back to me at 1:28 CST this morning: "The Lone Appendicitis."
I think she would have heard these from her brother (my uncle), who
was a talented fiddler who could learn both by ear and read sheet
music. I remember he had circa 1900's booklets with titles like "101
Favorite Jigs, Reels & Waltzes." I suspect the weird titles were from
these collections rather than fiddle tunes that were floating around
the Minnesota countryside.
Don't forget Dewey Balfa's "Indian on a Stomp." And then there's W.C.
Fields's "Ethiopian in the Fuel Supply."
Steve Kendall
>
> I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names. My favorite so
> far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
Bruce Greene has recorded some tunes with unusual names. The Pretty
LIttle Girl Went to Texas and Fell in a Well; I Went to the Turkey Pen,
Fell Upon My Knees, Laughed Fit Ta Kill Myself, Till I Heard the Turkey
Sneeze (whew) and The Hog Went Through the Fence, Yoke and All.
RIDEOUT REX R
there's 48 dogs in the Meat House.
Rex Rideout
Bo Parker
Wayne Erbsen <ba...@circle.net> wrote:
> I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names. My favorite so
> far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
Another one I thought of: Monkey on the Dog Cart (whatever that means!)
I heard Norman Blake and Hazel Johnson (or maybe Norman Blake and Bob
Chuckrow) do this one.
Maxine G
>Wayne Erbsen wrote:
>>
>> I'm collecting funny, or interesting, fiddle tune names. My favorite so
>> far is "Who Hit Nellie With the Stove Pipe?"
>
Did someone already mention
"Sal's Got Mud Between Her Toes"?
--
mg at pcg dot net
Carl Baron
Jim Nelson wrote:
> Now if you want some humorous fiddle tune names, check out an article
> by Vance Randolph that was published in *Mid-America Folklore* back in
> 1990 (I think) called something like "Ribaldry at Ozark Square
> Dances." I can provide a more detailed citation if you like.
LukeHiNite already beat you to it.
Carl
mhofer
Reminds me of my earlier days fishing along the Mississippi and seeing those
big channel cats we caught with thier heads nailed to trees for skinning by
the old timers. Though it might seem gruesome, they often just cut the heads
off and left them on the tree for other animals to feast upon. Figures
someone would name a tune to it .
Now 48 dogs, got no idea where that comes from.
RIDEOUT REX R <rrid...@slate.Mines.EDU> wrote in message
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Steve Senderoff
"You married My Daughter but you didn't"...
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______________________________________
Steve Senderoff & Trish Vierling
"...Ya run your E string down oh, I don't know, about three frets...anyway,
it corresponds to the third note on the A string...here's ya tuning..."
.........Tommy Jarrell
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Neil Rossi
seams, that I got from my mother and that tune is in there under the title
"You Married My Daughter But Yet You Didn't".
I always thought tunes like that should be collected under a section called
"Huh?"
Kerry Blech
Steve Senderoff wrote:
>
> fiddlin' john mahony, my good music buddy, insists he plays a tune called
> "You married My Daughter but you didn't"...
It also was recorded in the early '70s or so on the County
label by the Riendeau Family. It was a pretty big hit
across the country in the Old-time Revival amongst the
more eclectic.
~Kerry
Brian Sullivan
Old Black Cat Shit in the Shavings, Edn Hammons
Brian Sullivan
Paul Mitchell
for this tune is:
You Married My Daughter Yet You Didn't
has anyone mentioned "Hell & Scissors". While we're on it, maybe someone
can explain just why Jilson Setters would awaken the people at midnight
with this tune (best I can come up with is it was so lively it would
invigorate a set of worn-out dancers).
Then there's D. Dix Hollis' The Girl Slipped Down, very suggestive.
My favorite though, is the Podunk Toddle.
Paul
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email: pmit...@email.unc.edu
phone: (919) 962-9778
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Steve Senderoff wrote:
> fiddlin' john mahony, my good music buddy, insists he plays a tune called
> "You married My Daughter but you didn't"...
>
> --
> ______________________________________
> Steve Senderoff & Trish Vierling
>
Lyle Lofgren
<fid...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Excuse me,
>
>Old Black Cat Shit in the Shavings, Edn Hammons
Which reminds me that the full title to "Rye Straw" is "Dog Shit a Rye
Straw."
Mike Schway
read "Natchez", but that's another tune entirely)
Another malaprop: "Far on the Mountain". Most ccertainly should have
been "fire", but I get a kick out of imagining some NY A&R man trying to
translate a Southerner's accent.
"Shove that Pig's Foot a Little Further into the Fire."
(on a related topic:) "Pig Ankle Rag."
Down in Louisiana, there's "The Mosquitos have Eaten my Sweetheart"
"Skippin' Cat" (from Seattle's Jack Link)...I know the title doesn't
seem too funny, actually almost nauseatingly cutesy, but you've first
got to realize what a skippin' cat *really* is.
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Geff Crawford
last year and said that the "Hell" part was a leather pouch for the tailor's
scissors to fit in. Can that be right?
Geff Crawford
Geff Crawford
David Lynch
Mitchell <pmit...@email.unc.edu> wrote:
> has anyone mentioned "Hell & Scissors". While we're on it, maybe someone
> can explain just why Jilson Setters would awaken the people at midnight
> with this tune (best I can come up with is it was so lively it would
> invigorate a set of worn-out dancers).
True, but the C part's a bit crooked. I would think it would more annoy
than invigorate dancers. Of course, that might wake them up and make
them pay attention.
David Lynch
<gdcra...@volcano.net> wrote:
> My often faulty memory tells me that Bruce Greene played this tune at Fiddle
> Tunes
> last year and said that the "Hell" part was a leather pouch for the tailor's
> scissors to fit in. Can that be right?
Yep.
Joel Shimberg
<julie...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>Lost Librarian
>The Exasperated Fig
>Falling Down Flat With Bossy the Cow
>Mayonnaise Makes Me Angry
>
>Of course, none of these tunes actually exist. But they should --
>especially #1.
>
>Julie
There is an old Irish song called "The Tune The Old Cow Died On."
Joel
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The Exasperated Fig
Falling Down Flat With Bossy the Cow
Mayonnaise Makes Me Angry
Of course, none of these tunes actually exist. But they should --
especially #1.
Julie
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Before you buy.
Steve Senderoff
> >Mayonnaise Makes Me Angry
Clifftop 2000 is coming up....here is a challenge.....compose
"Mayonnaise...." It could be played in a medley with Squirrelheads and
Gravy....
s.
Larry Wheat
Fire"
Larry
Library Guy
>"Skippin' Cat" (from Seattle's Jack Link)...I know the title doesn't
>seem too funny, actually almost nauseatingly cutesy, but you've first
>got to realize what a skippin' cat *really* is.
Okay, I'll bite. What's a skippin' cat?
FD
=============================
Frank Dalton, Library Guy
=============================
Kerry Blech
Library Guy wrote:
>
> >"Skippin' Cat" (from Seattle's Jack Link)...I know the title doesn't
> >seem too funny, actually almost nauseatingly cutesy, but you've first
> >got to realize what a skippin' cat *really* is.
>
> Okay, I'll bite. What's a skippin' cat?
road kill that's been a-settin' in the sun a few
days and has dried out and stiffened. Voila, the first frisbee...
Hey, Mary Ann Geier has been asking me if I have a recording
of Fred the Cockerham fiddling Arkansas Traveler, and I do
not seem to have such a thing. Might you?
[ps, I'm writing this from my work address, though it
might have my home address on the reply-to line.]
K
Mike Schway
(Library Guy) wrote:
>>"Skippin' Cat" (from Seattle's Jack Link)...I know the title doesn't
>>seem too funny, actually almost nauseatingly cutesy, but you've first
>>got to realize what a skippin' cat *really* is.
>
>Okay, I'll bite. What's a skippin' cat?
>
>FD
>=============================
> Frank Dalton, Library Guy
>=============================
A piece of roadkill, many times run-over and well-dried in the hot sun.
Rumor has it (though I've never tried), that you can peel it off the
pavement, fling it and watch it skip like stones over a calm lake. :-)
I seem to remember, though not absolutely certain, that Kurt Vonnegut
made reference to same in one of his later works (the pastime, not the
tune).
Brent Cantrell
sings it, "Poor little kitty cat, poor little feller, poor little
kitty cat died in the cellar." I've always been partial to the
misadventures of cats.
deto...@my-deja.com
Want to see something really fuuny? Try the new Effenheimer
Funnier than the new album by Paul McCartney
In article <38a8012...@netnews.upenn.edu>,
dal...@vet.upenn.edu (Library Guy) wrote:
>
> >"Skippin' Cat" (from Seattle's Jack Link)...I know the title doesn't
> >seem too funny, actually almost nauseatingly cutesy, but you've first
> >got to realize what a skippin' cat *really* is.
>
> Okay, I'll bite. What's a skippin' cat?
>
> FD
> =============================
> Frank Dalton, Library Guy
> =============================
>
Adam Rose and Yona Adams
down" at 3ish in the morning with Josephine Davis and Mark Simos.
Another favorite, I once heard Bruce Greene play a tune called "I love my wife
as well as anybody."
Adam Rose.
Kerry Blech
Brent Cantrell wrote:
>
> Not as funny, but I like "Cat died in the cellar" -- Charlie Acuff
> sings it, "Poor little kitty cat, poor little feller, poor little
> kitty cat died in the cellar." I've always been partial to the
> misadventures of cats.
That one is called "Kitty Puss," and the line is
"Poor little Kitty Puss..."
Have you heard "Kitty and the Baby" from Lowe Stokes
North Georgians? I think you'd like that one. Rumor has it
that it is on the compilation of Stokes' 78s on the Document
label, but I have not even seen a copy of it (let alone
heard it) yet.
Kerry
Jack Aldrich
for a flake) Englehart had a song/tail about Frisbee the sail cat. Some
kids were tossing him around when a man drove by and asked "What are you
kids doing?" They replied "We're playing with Frisbee."
Paul Mitchell
> Have you heard "Kitty and the Baby" from Lowe Stokes
> North Georgians? I think you'd like that one. Rumor has it
> that it is on the compilation of Stokes' 78s on the Document
> label, but I have not even seen a copy of it (let alone
> heard it) yet.
Personally, I like Melvin Dupree's Cat Rag. Those howls truly distort the
settings.
Paul
Brent Cantrell
Stokes "Kitty and the baby" is one of the high points, for me, of the
Document CD. Recalls the old cats=sex=women thing in
European-American folklore. Don't know whether to call it a cat song
or a jigijigi song.
BTW for the last few weeks I've been jotting down stuff for a
"Misadventures Of Cats" radio program. Leroy Troy has some great cat
lyrics, as did, I beleive, Tommy Jarrell.
Anything come to mind?
Brent
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:28:32 GMT, Kerry Blech <Blec...@Wolfenet.com>
wrote:
>
>
>Brent Cantrell wrote:
>>
>> Not as funny, but I like "Cat died in the cellar" -- Charlie Acuff
>> sings it, "Poor little kitty cat, poor little feller, poor little
>> kitty cat died in the cellar." I've always been partial to the
>> misadventures of cats.
>
>That one is called "Kitty Puss," and the line is
>"Poor little Kitty Puss..."
>
>Have you heard "Kitty and the Baby" from Lowe Stokes
>North Georgians? I think you'd like that one. Rumor has it
>that it is on the compilation of Stokes' 78s on the Document
>label, but I have not even seen a copy of it (let alone
>heard it) yet.
>
>Kerry
Steve Goldfield
cat. Riley Puckett, among many others, recorded
"The Cat Came Back." I'm not sure who did the original
version of "Tom Cat Blues," though I'm pretty sure
that the New Lost City Ramblers covered it. If you stray
into bluegrass and beyond, the Kathy Kallick/Laurie Lewis
CD has a great song by Jim Minton "That Dawn the Day She
Left Me," with a verse about a cat. And Alison Brown
has an instrumental about her cat, which is on the New
Grange CD.
Steve
In article <9oajaskkv4etgk04m...@4ax.com>,
Brent Cantrell <cant...@netstarcomm.net> wrote:
#>"Cat died in the cellar" is a name Charlie sometimes uses locally.
#>Stokes "Kitty and the baby" is one of the high points, for me, of the
#>Document CD. Recalls the old cats=sex=women thing in
#>European-American folklore. Don't know whether to call it a cat song
#>or a jigijigi song.
#>
#>BTW for the last few weeks I've been jotting down stuff for a
#>"Misadventures Of Cats" radio program. Leroy Troy has some great cat
#>lyrics, as did, I beleive, Tommy Jarrell.
#>
#>Anything come to mind?
#>
#>Brent
Gloux
-Greg
Lyle Lofgren
wrote:
>Jeri Canote's "Sadie at the Back Door" is about a
>cat. Riley Puckett, among many others, recorded
>"The Cat Came Back." I'm not sure who did the original
>version of "Tom Cat Blues," though I'm pretty sure
>that the New Lost City Ramblers covered it. If you stray
>into bluegrass and beyond, the Kathy Kallick/Laurie Lewis
>CD has a great song by Jim Minton "That Dawn the Day She
>Left Me," with a verse about a cat. And Alison Brown
>has an instrumental about her cat, which is on the New
>Grange CD.
>
When it comes to misadventures, it's hard to beat "The Cat's got the
Measles, and the Dog's got the Whooping Cough," by Jerry Jordan (Smith
& Woodlief) on Supertone. I'm sure a great song like this has been
reissued on CD, but I don't know where.
And Homer & Jethro's version of "Moving On" had a verse that went
something like:
That old tom cat was a-feelin' mean,
When he caught his tail in the sewin' machine,
He's movin' on, he's movin' on;
He tore out the stitch when he hit the ditch,
He's movin' on.
(Or am I confusing two verses? I haven't heard it since it got some
airplay circa 1950).
Kerry Blech
>
> How about "Tom and Jerry"?
I always thought that was about a rum drink usually
served at Christmas-time (which will soon be over...).
arno
titles about cats (he thinks). Polecats not included for obvious reasons, nor
Kitty Wells. Arcane yet interesting list of (mostly) published sources.
--Peter Fraissinet
West Danby, NY
Alley Cat Haworth, Bob Banjo: A Collector's Treasury Murray Hill
S-5395X/3 n.d. lp
And The Cat Came Back Nelson, Fiddlin' Frank Buck Creek Gal / And The Cat
Came Back Challenge 307 n.d. 78
And The Cat Came Back Roberts, Doc Way Down South In Dixie: Old Time
Fiddle Band Music From Kentucky Volume 3 Morning Star 45005 1980
lp
And The Cat Came Back Roberts, Fiddlin' Doc Complete Recorded Works In
Chronological Order, Volume 1: 1925-1928 Document DOCD-8042
1998[1927] cd
And The Cat Came Back The Very Next Day Roberts, Dock; Boaz, Edgar
Complete Recorded Works In Chronological Order, Volume 1: 1925-1928
Document DOCD-8042 1998[1925] cd
Bear Cat Mama O'Daniel, W. Lee, and His Hillbilly Boys White Country
Blues: 1926-1938: A Lighter Shade of Blue Columbia C2K 47466 1993[1937]
cd
Big Black Cat Chapman, Owen "Snake" Up In Chapman's Hollow Rounder CD
0378 1996 cd
Black Cat In The Briar Patch Wine, Melvin Spokane Tidbits
ca
Black Cat Kicked Out The Grey Cat's Eye Hammons, Burl Diller Collection
Volume 1: The Fiddling of Burl Hammons Augusta Heritage 017 1995
ca
Bought Me A Cat Seeger, Mike; Seeger, Peggy American Folk Songs For
Children Rounder C-8001 Part 1 1991 ca
Cat Came Back, The Carson, Fiddlin' John Complete Recorded Works In
Chronological Order Volume II Document DOCD-8014 1997[1924]
cd
Cat Came Back, The Clark, Yodeling Slim Cowboy Songs Masterseal
MS-57 1957 lp
Cat Came Back, The Clark, Yodeling Slim Cowboy Songs Paris P-103
1958 lp
Cat Came Back, The Houston, Cisco Folk Song and Minstrelsy
Classics Rec.Libr. RL7624 n.d. lp
Cat Came Back, The McNew, Walter Blackjack Grove Appal. Ctr. AC005
1993[1992] ca
Cat Came Back, The Meade, Gus Gus Meade 7-III-1987 1987
ca
Cat Came Back, The Puckett, Riley Old Time Greats Volume 2 Old
Homestead OHCS-174 1986 lp
Cat Came Back, The Williams, Doc New Doc Williams Favorites Old And
New, The Quality SV-1826 [Canada] 1969 lp
Cat Came Back, The Williams, Doc New Doc Williams Favorites Old And
New, The Wheeling WLP-7171 n.d. lp
Cat Came Back, The Wood, Jim; Hartford, John Bullies Have All Gone
To Rest, The Whippoorwill WR-1001 1998 cd
Cat Come Back Kidwell, Fiddlin' Van; Hotmud Family, The Fiddlin' Van
Kidwell With the Hotmud Family Vetco LP-502 1974 lp
Cat Come Back, The Smith, Glen Say Old Man Marimac AHS-3 1990
ca
Cat In the Hopper Bryan, James First of May, The Rounder 0215
1986 lp
Cat In the Pear Tree Keys, Will Banjo Original, A County
CO-CD-2720 1997 cd
Cat Rag Dupree's Rome Boys ca
Cat Tracks Chapman, Owen "Snake" Walnut Gap Rounder CD-0418 1999
cd
Cat's Got The Measles New Lost City Ramblers; Cousin Emmy New Lost City
Ramblers With Cousin Emmy, The Folkways FTS-31015 1968 lp
Cat's Got The Measles And The Dog's Got The Whooping Cough, The New Lost City
Ramblers Remembrance Of Things To Come Verve Folkways FTS-3018 1966 lp
Cat's Got The Measles, The Bovee, Bob; Heil, Gail Come Over And See Me
Sometime Marimac 9045 1991 ca
Cat's Got The Measles, The Dog's Got The Whooping Cough, The New Lost City
Ramblers Vol. II: 1963-1973: Out Standing In Their Field Sm. Folkways
SF-CD-40040 1993 cd
Cat's Got the Measles Fink, Cathy Doggone My Time Rooster C120 1982
ca
Cat's Meow, The Martin, Asa, and the Cumberland Rangers Dr. Ginger Blue
Rounder 0034 1974 lp
Come Back Pussy Williams, Dicky Nasty Blues 2 Ichiban ICH-1066 1990
lp
Gray Cat On A Tennessee Farm Freight Hoppers, The Where'd You Come From,
Where'd You Go? Rounder CD-0403 1996 cd
Gray Cat On A Tennessee Farm Sofa Cats, The Up Cane Creek [sans label,
sans no.] 1998 ca
Gray Cat On The Tennessee Farm Michael, Walt, & Company Good Old Way,
The Front Hall 033 1985 ca
Grey Cat On A Tennessee Farm Highwoods String Band Bloomington, Indiana
4/74 1974 ca
Grey Cat On The Tennessee Farm Highwoods Stringband Fire On the Mountain
Rounder 0023 1973 lp
Grey Cat On The Tennessee Farm Macon, Uncle Dave Early Recordings
County 521 lp
Grey Cat On The Tennessee Farm Macon, Uncle Dave Go Long Mule County
CO-CD-3505 1994[1927] cd
Grey Cat On The Tennessee Farm New Lost City Ramblers Gone To The Country
Folkways FA-2491 1963 lp
Has Anybody Seen My Kitty Sizemore, Asher; Little Jimmy Songs Of The
Soil Old Homestead OHCS-163 1984 lp
Kansas City Kitty Haley, Ambrose, & His Ozark Ramblers Kansas City
Kitty / Trail To San Antone Premier 29009 n.d. 78
Kansas City Kitty Jenkins, Snuffy American Banjo Three Finger and
Scruggs Style Folkways SF40037 1990[1956] lp
Kansas City Kitty Magpie & Friends Live At The Dunham Inn
Folkways FTS-31061 1978 lp
Kansas City Kitty Tesinsky, Andy If You Can't Dance To It, It's Not Old
Time Fiddle! MT Folklife Proj. MFP-002 1986 lp
Kansas City Kitty Van Houten, Gretchen; Yoxall, Joyce American
Fogies Volume Two Rounder CD-0389 1996 cd
Kitten And The Cat, The Stanley, Ralph, And The Clinch Mountain Boys Hills
Of Home King (Gusto) KSD-1069 n.d. lp
Kitten And The Cat, The Stanley, Ralph, And The Clinch Mountain Boys Hills
Of Home King (Gusto) KSD-1069 n.d. lp
Kitty Alone Bradley, Hank; Whitesides, Cathie American Fogies Volume
Two Rounder CD-0389 1996 cd
Kitty Alone Hall, Martha Mountain Music Of Kentucky Folkways
FA-2317 1968 lp
Kitty Alone Hall, Martha Mountain Music of Kentucky
Smiths.Folkways SFCD40077 1996 cd
Kitty Alone Mitchell, Howie Howie Mitchell Folk-Legacy FSI-5 1962
lp
Kitty And I Carter, Joe & Janette Joe & Janette Carter County 706
1966 lp
Kitty And I Lissenberg, Theo Galax International: Old Time,
Mountain, and Bluegrass Music... Heritage HRC067 1988 lp
Kitty And I Lissenberg, Theo Galax Old Fiddler's Convention 1984,
49th Annual Heritage 700 1985[1984] lp
Kitty And The Baby Stokes, Lowe, & His Potlickers Georgia Folk: A
Sampler Of Traditional Sounds Global Village CD-03 1985[1930] cd
Kitty Puss Carter, Mother Maybelle Living Legend, A Columbia
CS-9275 n.d. lp
Kitty Puss Davenport, Clyde Clydeoscope County 788 1986
lp
Kitty Puss Gellert, Dan; Honig, Pete; Winston, Dave; Schwab, John Mt.
Airy 1991, Vol. 2 1991 ca
Kitty Puss Thomas, Buddy Kitty Puss Rounder CD-0032 1998[1976]
cd
Kitty Waltz Carter Family 20 Of The Best RCA NL-89369 [Germany] 1984
lp
Kitty Waltz Carter Family Kitty Waltz / Diamonds In The Rough
Montgomery Ward M-4434 n.d. 78
Kitty Waltz Carter Family Legendary The Original Carter Family
Collection (1927-'34, '41): Vol. 3 RCA RA-5643 [Japan] 1974 lp
Kitty Waltz Carter Family Lover's Farewell, The / Kitty Waltz Victor
V-40277 n.d. 78
Kitty Waltz Carter Family Original and Great Carter Family, The
Pickwick CAS-586 [1962] lp
Kitty Waltz Carter Family Original and Great Carter Family, The RCA
Camden CAL-586 1962 lp
Kitty Waltz Carter Family When The Roses Bloom In Dixieland: Their
Complete Victor Recordings 1929-30 Rounder CD-1066 1995 cd
Kitty Waltz Carter, Mother Maybelle Mother Maybelle Carter Briar 101
n.d. lp
Kitty Waltz Carter, Mother Maybelle Queen Of The Auto-Harp MCA Coral
MCL-1090 [Jap.] 1975 lp
Kitty Waltz Hill Billies, The Complete Recorded Works In
Chronological Order, Volume 2: 1926-1927 Document DOCD-8040
1998[1926] cd
Kitty Waltz Hopkins, Al, & His Buckle Busters Complete Recorded
Works In Chronological Order, Volume 2: 1926-1927 Document DOCD-8040
1998[1926] cd
Kitty Waltz Tilman & Molly Traditional Folk Music 8-02-91 ca
Kitty Waltz Yodel Harper, Roy; Shirkey, Earl Cowboy's Lullaby, The
/ Kitty Waltz Yodel Columbia 15467-D n.d. 78
Little Cat Triplett, Lee Music Never Dies, The: A Vandalia Sampler,
1977-1987 Elderberry ER-004 1988[1977] lp
Old Cat Died Donley, Tim Cuttin' Loose Heritage HRC-C-108 1994
ca
Old Cat Died Roan Mountain Hilltoppers Roan Mountain Hilltoppers
Cloudlands 001 n.d. lp
Old Cat Died, The Pilot Mountain Bobcats Dance By The Light Of The Moon
Yodel-Ay-Hee CD-026 1999 cd
Old Kitty Kate, The Dalhart, Vernon Golden Olden Classics [Vol. 2] Golden
Olden 81049 n.d. lp
Pretty Little Cat Douglas, Wilson Fiddle Tunes From Central West
Virginia Oasis ODELL-1 1998 cd
Pussy Got The Measles Ritchie, Jean Marching Across The Green Grass And
Other American Children Game Songs Folkways FC-7702 1968 lp
Scat Tom Kitty Puss New Lost City Ramblers; Cousin Emmy New Lost City
Ramblers With Cousin Emmy, The Folkways FTS-31015 1968 lp
Since That Black Cat Passed My Path Tubb, Ernest Sounds Like Jimmie
Rodgers ACM ACM-7 n.d. lp
Sing Song Kitty Watson, Doc Home Again Vanguard VSD-79239 1967
lp
Sing Song Kitty West, Harry & Jeanie Smoky Mountain Ballads Esoteric
CPT-545 n.d. lp
Sing Song Kitty West, Harry & Jeanie Harry and Jeanie West Everest FS-208
n.d. lp
Swamp Cat Rag Heartbeats, The Living Black and White Marimac 9048 1991
ca
Swamp Cat Rag Red Hots, The Ready to Roll Fire Ant FACD1003
1995[1989] cd
Swamp Cat Rag Swamp Rooters Hell Broke Loose In Georgia: Georgia Fiddle
Bands 1927-1934 County 514 n.d.[1930] lp
Swamp Cat Rag Tompkins County Horseflies Bound for Glory 9-II-1986
1986 ca
Swampcat Rag Konnarock Critters, The Cornbread And Sweetpeas Marimac 9068-D
1997 cd
Thomas Cat Mounce, John D.; Patrick, Danny Music From The Ozarks
Folkways FS-3812 1964[1958] lp
Tom Cat Blues Carlisle, Cliff Cliff Carlisle Volume 1 Old Timey LP-103
n.d. lp
Tom Cat Blues Carlisle, Cliff Times Ain't Like They Used To Be, Vol. 4
Yazoo 2048 1999 cd
Tom Cat Blues Carlisle, Cliff [as Bob Clifford] White Country Blues:
1926-1938: A Lighter Shade of Blue Columbia C2K 47466 1993[1932] cd
Tom Cat Blues Clifford, Bob Shanghai Rooster Yodel No. 2 / Tom Cat Blues
[custom disc] n.d. 78
Tom Cat Blues New Lost City Ramblers New Lost City Ramblers Folkways
FA-2396 1958 lp
Tom Cat's Kitten Carter, Mother Maybelle Living Legend, A
Columbia CS-9275 n.d. lp
Tom Cat's Kitten Carter, Mother Maybelle Living Legend, A
Columbia CS-9275 n.d. lp
Waltz Kitty Waltz Keys, Will Old-Time Music On the Air, Volume One
Rounder CD 0331 1994 cd
Wampus Cat, The Lulu Belle and Scotty Early and Great Volume I Old
Homestead OHCS-168 1985 lp
Warring Cats Molsky, Bruce Warring Cats Yodel-Ay-Hee 011 1993
ca
When My Cat Came Back Jackson, Tommy When My Cat Came Back / Dusty Miller
Dot 45-1255 n.d. 45
When The Pussywillow Whispers To The Catnip Lula Belle and Scotty Comedy
Songs of Lula Belle and Scotty: Tender Memories Recalled, Vol.3 Mar-Lu 8903
1990 lp
Wild Cat Mama Leon's Lone Star Cowboys Wild Cat Mama / You're In My
Heart To Stay Decca 5404 n.d. 78
Wild Cat Rag McMichen, Clayton; Georgia Wildcats Traditional Years, The
Davis Unlimited DU-33032 n.d.[1931] lp
Wild Cat Woman Mainer, J.E., & The Mountaineers Legendary J.E. Mainer
Vol. 8, The Rural Rhythm RRJEM-227 n.d. lp
Wild Cat Woman And A Tom Cat Man, A Carlisle, Cliff Cliff Carlisle Volume
1 Old Timey LP-103 n.d. lp
Wildcat Rag Mitchell, French First Fiddle Elderberry ER-003
1983 lp
Wildcat Ridge Hartz, Steve Crooked Steep And Rocky Mystery Ridge MRRC-001
199? cd
With Kitty I'll Go Ritchie, Jean High Hills and Mountains
Greenhays GR-701 1979 lp
Yeller Cat Piney Creek Weasels Squirrel Heads & Gravy Hay Holler
HHH-CD-1101 1996 cd
Yellow Cat Mac Benford's Old Time Band Bound for Glory 22-IX-1985
1985 ca
Yellow Cat Crumm, Chad; Smith, Beverly Chad Crumm With Bev Smith,
Chirps Smith 1987 ca
Yellow Cat Pine River Boys Galax Old Fiddlers Convention, 42nd Annual
Heritage 42 1978[1977] lp
Yellow Cat Shelor Family Eight Miles Apart: Old Time Music From Patrick
And Carroll County, Virginia Heritage XXII 1979[1973] lp
Yellow Cat Tompkins County Horseflies Bound for Glory 17-III-1985
1985 ca
Yellow Cat Tompkins County Horseflies Bound for Glory 8-IV-1984
1984 ca
Yellow Cat Tompkins County Horseflies Chokers & Flies: Old Time
Music Rounder 0213 1985 lp
Yellow-Eyed Cat Dickey, Lotus Fiddle Tunes From Orange County, Indiana,
Volume I Marimac 9029 1992 ca
Carl Baron
Kerry Blech wrote:
> Gloux wrote:
> >
> > How about "Tom and Jerry"?
>
> I always thought that was about a rum drink usually
> served at Christmas-time (which will soon be over...).
I've had second thoughts about the meaning of the tune "The Last Shot
Got Him". I no longer think it's about firearms.
Carl
Joel Shimberg
Joel
--
Insanity is hereditary.
You get it from your kids.
GNelson700
the Morning'
nelson
Brent Cantrell
Thanks to all
Brent
Jack Aldrich
meeting him ath the San Diego FOlk Festival (thank you Lou Curtis!) back
in the '70's.
Joe Cline wrote:
>
> On 15 Feb 2000 23:51:44 GMT, stev...@best.com (Steve Goldfield)
> wrote:
>
> >I'm not sure who did the original
> >version of "Tom Cat Blues," though I'm pretty sure
> >that the New Lost City Ramblers covered it.
>
> Bill Carlisle.
>
> Joe Cline
> Charlotte
Jack Aldrich
Steve Goldfield wrote:
>
> Jeri Canote's "Sadie at the Back Door" is about a
> cat. Riley Puckett, among many others, recorded
> "The Cat Came Back." I'm not sure who did the original
> version of "Tom Cat Blues," though I'm pretty sure
> that the New Lost City Ramblers covered it. If you stray
> into bluegrass and beyond, the Kathy Kallick/Laurie Lewis
> CD has a great song by Jim Minton "That Dawn the Day She
> Left Me," with a verse about a cat. And Alison Brown
> has an instrumental about her cat, which is on the New
> Grange CD.
>
Paul Mitchell
> Hey, Mary Ann Geier has been asking me if I have a recording
> of Fred the Cockerham fiddling Arkansas Traveler, and I do
> not seem to have such a thing. Might you?
I know Fred recorded it because I know how proud I was to have lifted
small amounts of it off the LP, (regrettably, probably no trace of this
remains).
You can hear Fred fiddling it on Back Home in the Blue Ridge, County 723.
Arguably, one of the great recordings of all time - with Tommy and Fred
dueting on Sally Ann and Cumberland Gap, the trio on Breaking Up
Christmas, Old Joe Clark and Let Me Fall and Tommy's great When Sorrows
Encompass me 'Round.
Paul
Joe Cline
Fries last summer.
Joe Cline
Charlotte
Joel Shimberg
>version of "Tom Cat Blues," though I'm pretty sure
>
>Steve
I don't know about original, but the version they covered was by Cliff Carlisle.
Joel
he...@webtv.net
always sang it on his show on WWVA in Wheeling WV. in the 50s, and I
think he said he wrote it.