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St. Paul Waltz lyrics?

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Ralph Barthine

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:06:51 PM1/30/02
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OK, I know this might stretch some people's definition of "old-time", but
it's been driving me nuts. Last Wednesday, played for a contra dance with
a travelling caller from Minnesota. I suggested closing the evening with
the St. Paul Waltz. No one had heard of it, including the caller and his
S.O.- thought I was being a wise-ass.

Now I can't get the stupid tune out of my head, until I remember the
lyrics. All I have is:

When you're down in St. Paul
There is... fun there for all

I know it was recorded by Whoopie John Wilfahrt(sp?), and probably a lot
of others (maybe Larry Welk?). Does anyone out there know the lyrics?
Please, I need my life back!

Thanks,
Ralph Barthine
(b. 1956, Jersey City, NJ)

Lyle Lofgren

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Jan 30, 2002, 1:36:11 PM1/30/02
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:06:51 -0500, Ralph Barthine <rbar...@bcpl.net>
wrote:

I wish I could be of some help with the words, although the tune is
very familiar to me. My father and older brother both played it on
the fiddle, and one of my cousins plays it on accordion, and so I've
heard it played in the family for over 60 years. Naturally, I also
play it on the fiddle, because I, too, can't get the tune out of my
head, even if I wanted to.

We didn't have any records of it, though, so I don't know where
members of the family picked up the tune. And no one ever sang any
words to it. Based on their other records, I doubt the Whoopee John
band would have sung any words. Yes, you spelled his name right.

The only words I've heard are to the almost identical tune, titled
something like "Lonesome Cattle Call" by someone like Ernest Tubbs.
Those words are nothing like what you give.

Lyle

Carl Baron

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Jan 30, 2002, 3:12:04 PM1/30/02
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Ralph Barthine wrote:

> OK, I know this might stretch some people's definition of "old-time", but
> it's been driving me nuts. Last Wednesday, played for a contra dance with
> a travelling caller from Minnesota. I suggested closing the evening with
> the St. Paul Waltz. No one had heard of it, including the caller and his
> S.O.- thought I was being a wise-ass.

others who know or have arrangements of the St. Paul Waltz

for tuba and baritone
http://windmusicplus.safeshopper.com/429/2201.htm?759

Library of Congress sheet music
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/mussm:@field(TITLE+@band(St.+Paul+waltz++))

the beautiful "St. Paul Waltz", an old-time melody that Eddy Arnold eventually
incorporated into his immortal western hit "Cattle Call."
http://www.voyagerrecords.com/RV316.htm

no lyrics

Carl

Joe Cline

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Jan 30, 2002, 8:30:52 PM1/30/02
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:12:04 -0500, Carl Baron
<cba...@mail.med.upenn.edu> wrote:

>the beautiful "St. Paul Waltz", an old-time melody that Eddy Arnold eventually
>incorporated into his immortal western hit "Cattle Call."

The Tennessee Plowboy didn't write it; it's credited to Tex Owens.

It appears, sung by the Sons of the Pioneers, in Rio Grande, directed
by John Ford, starring John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara.

Joe Cline
Charlotte

Paul Gifford

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Feb 1, 2002, 3:59:50 PM2/1/02
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Ralph Barthine <rbar...@bcpl.net> wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.33.0201301131220.8844-100000@mail>...

> OK, I know this might stretch some people's definition of "old-time", but
> it's been driving me nuts. Last Wednesday, played for a contra dance with
> a travelling caller from Minnesota. I suggested closing the evening with
> the St. Paul Waltz. No one had heard of it, including the caller and his
> S.O.- thought I was being a wise-ass.
>
> I know it was recorded by Whoopie John Wilfahrt(sp?), and probably a lot
> of others (maybe Larry Welk?). Does anyone out there know the lyrics?

Interested to hear of a recorded version by Whoopee John Wilfahrt,
which must be how it got the name "St. Paul Waltz," but I do think
that this is an old German tune, and there are probably German lyrics
lurking somewhere. I've heard a guy in Ravenna, MI, play a version of
this tune; his grandparents came from Germany around 1870. He and
some others mostly knew square dance tunes like "Haste to the Wedding"
and "Road to Boston," but this is one that probably the Germans brought over.

Paul Gifford

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