Table of Contents
1. What is this Newsgroup about? What is old-time music?
2. Where can I find discussion of older country music that isn't
old-time
3. Where can I find discussion about bluegrass?
4. What are contra dancing and contra tunes?
5. Topics to be added. (Includes preliminary information on
publications, mail order sources, and web sites.)
1. WHAT IS THIS NEWSGROUP ABOUT? WHAT IS OLD-TIME MUSIC?
First, here's the charter for rec.music.country.old-time, as approved
in a vote ending on January 6, 1995. (The newsgroup was created on
January 17, 1995.) The one-line newsgroup description, by the way, is
Southern fiddle/banjo music and beyond.
CHARTER =======
rec.music.country.old-time is intended to be an unmoderated discussion
newsgroup to discuss music that originates in the southern Appalachian
region of Virginia, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, and
Tennessee but which also includes related music, for example, from
Missouri, Quebec, or New England (contra). Topics of discussion may
include but are not limited to:
* Fiddle Tunes * Banjo Tunes
* Performers * Lyrics (if not copyrighted)
* Recordings * Festivals, Contests, Concerts
* Books and Periodicals * Instruments * Instrument Techniques
[End Charter]
Old-time music is traditional music that developed in rural and often
isolated areas of the Appalachian and other regions before radio,
cars, and other modern inventions. The two main strains of the music
come from the banjo, brought with many of its common playing styles
from Africa by Africans, and the fiddle, which came from western
Europe, particularly Scotland and Ireland. The fiddle and banjo
were played separately and together, particularly for square dancing,
in the nineteenth century. Songs and ballads, many imported from
the British Isles and many written on these shores, are also an
important part of old-time music. [If there's an electric guitar
or drums, it's probably not old-time music, though you can
probably find a few exceptions.]
White minstrels popularized the banjo in urban centers before the
Civil War. The banjo went back to the mountains with veterans
from that war. When people began to play banjos and fiddles
together, fiddle playing changed. (See the notes, for example,
to the Emmett Lundy LP.) After reading Conway's *African
Banjo Echoes in Appalachia* (see book list below), I feel the
need to add to the above. Conway gives persuasive evidence
that black banjo players taught both minstrels and white
mountain musicians to play the banjo directly. Just one of
her arguments is that there are lots of common tunings between
earlier black banjoists and mountain banjoists that weren't
used by minstrels. Unfortunately, the music was not
well-documented in that period, which is why there are
different interpretations of what happened. The first version,
at the top of this paragraph, is from Bob Flesher.
The coming together of the banjo and the fiddle in ensemble
is not well-documented, but Conway does not find evidence
for it happening prior to the minstrels. In the mountains,
it dated roughly from the civil war period until roughly
World War I, when the guitar arrived. It is also possible
that slaves played fiddle and banjo together first, but there
is no known documentary evidence to show that.
The guitar and mandolin entered the music in the 20th century.
Sometimes accordions, concertinas, pianos, and flutes or
pennywhistles are found in old-time ensembles. Bones, too.
Fiddle music in other parts of the United States and Canada also
has an old-time tradition that is less influenced by or developed
independent from the southern music, although radios and recordings
have made it unlikely that any regional tradition would remain
completely free from other influences. And within any tradition,
there are those who emphasize passing on the tradition relatively
unchanged and those who experiment with the tradition at the edges,
extending it into new areas. Some individuals may even do both.
In the 1920s record companies recorded many old-time musicians, such as
Gid Tanner and the Skilletlickers, Charlie Poole and Riley Puckett,
Clarence Ashley, and others. It was these record companies that coined
the term old-time music, which they also called hillbilly music. Uncle
Dave Macon, a flamboyant banjo player, was one of the first musicians
on the Grand Ole Opry when it started in the twenties. Uncle Jimmy
Thompson, the Fruit Jar Drinkers, the Gully Jumpers, and DeFord
Bailey were some other early Grand Ole Opry stars. Grayson and
Whitter were another important duo in those early years. Some other
names from the early years include Dock Boggs, Roscoe Holcomb, Fiddling
Arthur Smith, Ed Haley, Clark Kessinger, Sam and Kirk McGee, Wade
Ward, Fiddlin' Sid Harkreader, and many more. Few recordings
were made of the many active African-American old-time string bands in
this period, but Lusk and Gribble played in one band of which we have
recordings. An important role was also played by the Library of
Congress, which preserved many musicians not deemed commercial by
the record companies. Some of the fine fiddlers recorded include
Emmett Lundy from Galax, Virginia and Edden (or Edn) Hammons of
West Virginia. (Since his granddaughter has been participating
in the newsgroup, I should add Dr. Humphrey Bate to the list of
early Opry performers.)
Old-time music was much of the popular country music of the 1920s and
1930s. In the 1940s Bill Monroe, who had solid old-time roots from his
mother and his Uncle Pen Vandiver, both old-time fiddlers, began to
shape what became bluegrass. Monroe cites his uncle and an
African-American blues guitarist named Arnold Schulz as his principal
influences.
But although old-time music began to disappear from the larger radio
shows, it still had solid roots in the southern Appalachian region and
in other areas of the country, from the Midwest, especially Missouri,
Illinois, and Indiana, to Texas, and even California. As part of the
folk revival of the 1950s and 1960s, old-time music developed a
following in many regions of the country. Younger musicians began
visiting and recording traditional old-time musicians and learning to
play their music. Fiddler Tommy Jarrell, who lived close to Mt. Airy,
North Carolina, and his fellow musician, Fred Cockerham, attracted many
young people who came to learn from them and their music. Banjo
player George Pegram inspired some young college students to start
what became Rounder Records.
Bands such as the New Lost City Ramblers and later the Highwoods
Stringband toured widely. Many festivals and contests have drawn
musicians from far away to hear old-time music. A festival in Union
Grove, North Carolina, for example, was held for the 71st year in 1995.
(The festival has changed in name, location, and character but is
run by the same family that organized the original festivals.)
Some other influential bands from that period are the Hollow Rock String
Band, Fuzzy Mountain String Band, the Gypsy Gyppo String Band,
and the Possum Trot String Band.
Today there are very lively and active communities of old-time
musicians and enthusiasts all over the country and around the world.
(There's a monthly old-time jam in London, and there are old-time bands
in Japan and Australia.) A few of the best-known elder statesmen and
stateswomen of contemporary old-time music include Melvin Wine and
Wilson Douglas of West Virginia, Etta Baker, Joe Thompson, and Benton
Flippen of North Carolina, Ralph Blizard, Will Keys, and Charlie Acuff
from Tennessee, Matokie Slaughter from Virginia, and Clyde Davenport
from Kentucky (recently moved to Tennessee).
A few of the better-known younger old-time musicians and bands include
Bruce Greene, Jody Stecher and Kate Brislin, Bruce Molsky, Dwight
Diller, David Holt, Ginny Hawker and Kay Justice, Hazel Dickens, Dirk
Powell, John Herrmann, Tom Sauber, Bob Flesher, Clarke Buehling, the
Volo Bogtrotters, the Boiled Buzzards, the Heartbeats Rhythm Quartet,
the Horseflies, Brad Leftwich and Linda Higginbotham, the Critton
Hollow String Band, the Red Mule String Band, the Indian Creek Delta
Boys, Alice Gerrard, James Bryan, Double Decker String Band,
the Ill-Mo Boys, and the Hillbillies from Mars.
Fiddle music in some northern parts of the United States and in
Canada derives more directly from European sources (Scottish,
English, Irish, French) but is definitely a related form of
music. Canadian and American Indian and Metis fiddlers in the
prairies and the upper Midwest, for example, picked up the fiddle
from early French travelers and have developed their own unique
style, which also is influenced by Scottish fiddling.
There are too many forms of old-time music to come up with a simple
description (from solo ballads to full bands, for example). A good
place to start is the Rounder CD 0331 "Old-Time Music on the Air,
volume one," which came out in 1994. A second volume is planned
for release in 1996. Rounder also released a CD called "Young
Fogies" with a similar broad representation, and a second is
now out.
2. WHERE CAN I FIND DISCUSSION OF OLDER COUNTRY MUSIC THAT ISN'T
OLD-TIME?
For now, try rec.music.country.western. There may be a
rec.music.country.classic soon.
3. WHERE CAN I FIND DISCUSSION ABOUT BLUEGRASS?
Since bluegrass is at least partially an offshoot of old-time music,
some discussion fits into rec.music.country.old-time. But there is a
bluegrass list and newsgroup. The newsgroup is bit.listserv.bgrass-l.
If you want to post to it, you must subscribe to the bgrass-l list. To
do that, send Email to list...@lsv.uky.edu with no subject and the
message: SUB BGRASS-L Your_Name. If you have problems subscribing, talk
to the list owner, Frank Godbey, who is uka...@ukcc.uky.edu.
Old-time music is also part of the charter for the bgrass-l list.
4. WHAT ARE CONTRA DANCING AND CONTRA TUNES?
Contra dancing probably takes its name from English country dancing
which spread to France where country turned into contra. In contra
dances, dancers form two lines and couples generally progress down a
line and back. Unlike squares, dancers in a contra dance generally are
doing something all the time, and contra dancing, which was originally
more popular in New England, has spread throughout the country. New
England tunes are sometimes called contra tunes, but since southern
tunes are also played at contra dances, that distinction has become
less clear. Tunes played for contra dances are almost always
square, i.e., 16 beats per part (two parts each played twice for
a total of 16 beats or 32 bars). Square dances are sometimes
written for crooked tunes, which have other than 16 beats per part,
and square dance tunes may have three parts or other deviations
from the contra restrictions.
5. TOPICS TO BE ADDED
Additional topics to be added include, but are not limited to,
the following. Volunteers are welcome to work on these projects
which may be made available outside the faq by giving a site for
ftp or other access or just by giving someone's Email address.
Books on Old-Time Music
*African Banjo Echoes in Appalachia: A Study of Folk Traditions*
by Cecelia Conway, Univ. of Tennessee Press, 1995, ISBN
0-87049-893-2.
*Farmhouse Fiddlers: music and dance traditions in the rural midwest*
Philip Nevin Martin, 1994 ISBN 1883953065,
reviewed by Jim Nelson, OTH Summer 1995.
*That Half-Barbaric Twang: The Banjo in American Popular Culture*
Karen Linn, University of Illinois Press, Urbana and Chicago, 1991,
ISBN 0-252-01780-3, reviewed by Art Rosenbaum, OTH Spring 1993.
*Rambling Blues: The Life & Songs of Charlie Poole*
Kinney Rorrer, Danville, VA: Kinney Rorrer, 913 Vicar Road,
Danville, VA 24540, 1982.
Frank B. Converse's Banjo Instructor, Without a Master:
Containing a Choice Collection of Banjo Solos, Jigs, Songs,.
Reels, Walk Arounds, Etc. Progressively Arranged, and
Plainly Explained, Enabling the Learner to Become a
Proficient Banjoist without the Aid of a Teacher
Frank B. Converse, 1865 reprinted in 1990 by
Cleff'd Ear Productions, P. O. Box 13075, Lansing, MI 48901.
169 Brand New Old Time Fiddle Tunes, Volume 3--Jigs, Reels,
Polkas, Waltzes, Marches, Two-Steps, Hornpipes, Schottisches,
Bluegrass Tunes by American and Canadian Composers,
Edited by Vivian Williams, 1990, Voyager Publications,
424 - 35th Ave., Seattle, WA 98122 reviewed by Art
Rosenbaum in OTH, Summer 1992.
Contra Dancing in the Northwest
Penn Fix, 1991, W. 703 Shoshone Pl., Spokane, WA 99203
reviewed by Phil Jamison, OTH, Summer, 1992.
DeFord Bailey: A Black Star in Early Country Music
David C. Morton, with Charles K. Wolfe, 1991
University of Tennessee Press, Knoxville, TN 37996-0325.
reviewed by Jack Bernhardt, OTH, Fall 1992.
Singing the Glory Down: Amateur Gospel Music in
South Central Kentucky, 1900--1990
William Lynwood Montell, 1991, University Press
of Kentucky, reviewed by Ray Bowman, OTH,
Winter 1992--93.
American Folk Songs for Christmas
Ruth Crawford Seeger, Oak Publications OK 64957,
reviewed by Paul Brown, OTH Winter 1992--93,
Music Sales Corp., 225 Park Avenue South, New York, NY 10003.
Finding Her Voice--The Saga of Women in Country Music
Mary A. Bufwack and Robert K. Oermann, Crown Publishers,
Inc., 1993, reviewed by Toni Williams, OTH, Summer 1994.
The Stonemans--An Appalachian Family and the Music That
Shaped Their Lives
Ivan Tribe, University of Illinois Press, 1993,
reviewed by Dale Morris, OTH Summer 1994.
With Fiddle and Well-Rosined Bow: Old-Time Fiddling in Alabama
Joyce H. Cauthen, University of Alabama Press, 1989. [now
out-of-print]
Truth is Stranger than Publicity
Alton Delmore, edited by Charles K. Wolfe, Country Music Foundation
Press, 1977.
The Old-Time Fiddler's Repertory, 2 volumes,
R. P. Christeson, University of Missouri Press, 1973-1984.
(A two-cassette collection of these recordings is available
from MSFOTFA, see below.)
Dance to the Fiddle, March to the Fife: Instrumental Folk Tunes in
Pennsylvania, edited by Samuel P. Bayard, Pennsylvania State
University Press, 1982.
Hill Country Tunes: Instrumental Folk Music of Southwestern
Pennsylvania, edited by Samuel P. Bayard, American Folklore
Society, 1944.
Singing Family of the Cumberlands, Jean Ritchie, Oxford University
Press, 1955.
Sinful Tunes and Spirituals: Black Folk Music to the Civil War,
Dena Epstein, University of Illinois Press, 1981.
Old-Time Fiddling Across America, book and tape by David Reiner
and Peter Anick, Mel Bay Publications.
Communities in Motion, ed. by Susan Spalding, Greenwood Press,
1995 (traditional dance).
Brand New Oldtime Fiddle Tunes, Voyager Records and Publications,
424 - 35th Avenue, Seattle, WA 98122.
Way Up North in Dixie: A Black Family's Claim to the Southern
Anthem, Howard Sacks and Judith Rose Sacks, Smithsonian Institution
Press, 1993.
Sinful Tunes and Spirituals: Black Folk Music to the Civil War,$
Dena J. Epstein, University of Illinois Press, 1977.$
The Folk Banjo: A Documentary History, Dena J. Epstein,$
Los Angeles: John Edwards Memorial Foundation at the Folklore$
and Mythology Center, University of California, 1975.$
Periodicals
Old-Time Herald, 1812 House Avenue, Durham, NC 27707 $18/yr US
$21 foreign ager...@nando.net
Banjo Newsletter, Box 364, Greensboro, MD 21639
Fiddler Magazine, PO Box 125, Los Altos, CA 94022 415/948-4383
Daily Clog, 95 E. Wayne Ave., #312, Silver Spring, MD 20901
monthly, $8/year. Free sample on request. jma...@access.digex.net
Recommended old-time recordings
[Send Email to s...@coe.berkeley for a list under development.]
Labels issuing old-time music (recordings and videos)
Need to add address and phone number:
County (See County Sales address below)
Heritage, Rt. 3, Box 290, Galax, VA 24333-9143 540/236-9249
Homespun, Box 694, Woodstock NY 12498 1-800-33-TAPES
June Appal Recordings/Appalshop, 306 Madison Street,
Whitesburg, KY 51858, 606/633-0108, fax 606/633-1009
Marimac, P. O. Box 447, Crown Point, IN 46307 800/628-4507
fax 219/662-6880
Jim Martin Productions, P. O. Box 152, At. Albans, WV 25177
Mountain Music Video, 6815 Dodge Lane, Camp Springs, MD 20748
Roane Records, Route 3, Box 293, Spencer, WV 25276
Rounder, One Camp Street, Cambridge, MA 02140
Smithsonian/Folkways 202/287-3262 fax 202/287-3699,
Office of Folklife Programs, 955 L'Enfant Plaza, Suite
2600, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC 20560
Ask for the Whole Folkways Catalog.
Vestapol, Stefan Grossman's Guitar Workshop, P. O. Box 802,
Sparta, NJ 07871
Mail-order sources of old-time music
Here are a few to get things started:
Andy's Front Hall, PO Box 307, Voorheesville, NY 12186 800/759-1775
Camsco Music, P. O. Box 160, E. Montpelier, VT 05651 800/548-FOLK
web page: http://www.camsco.com
County Sales, P. O. Box 191, Floyd, VA 24091 540/745-2001
Elderly Instruments, P. O. Box 14210, Lansing, MI 48901 517/372-7890
Missouri State Old Time Fiddlers Association, P. O. Box 7423,
Columbia, MO 65205
Roots & Rhythm, P. O. Box 837, El Cerrito, CA 94530 510/525-1494
Email: ro...@hooked.net
Instrument Makers
Tom Barr, 105 South Main, Galax, VA 24333 (wood-rim banjos)
Clarke Buehling, 326 Adams St., Fayetteville, AR 72701 (gourd)
Kevin Enoch, 6C Hillside Rd., Greenbelt, MD 20770 (wood-rim)
Bob Flesher, 102 Waterford St., Peachtree City, GA 30269 wood/gourd
Hendricks Banjos, PO Box 1197, Pollock Pines, CA 95726
wood/bigfoot bridges 916/644-6891
Clark Prouty, 5503 75th Ave., Lanham, MD 20706
Mike Ramsey, Chanterelle Workshop, RR2, Box 564B,
Appomattox, VA 24522 804/248-9234 banjo...@aol.com
Bart Reiter, 1139 Teakwood, Haslett, MI 48840 wood
Bob Thornburg, 1478 Rocking W Dr., Bishop, CA 93514 gourd
Wildwood Banjo Col, 445 I St., Arcata, CA 95521 wood
Instrument stores
Elderly Instruments (see above)
Music Emporium, 165 Mass. Ave., Lexington, MA 02173 617/860-0049
Stewart MacDonald, Box 900, Athens, OH 45701 (parts only)
Olav Chris Henriksen, 34 Newberry St., Somerville, MA 021444 (gut str)
Lehmann String Instruments, 34 Elton St., Rochester, NY 14607
Donna Curry's Music, 1780 Fort Union Dr., Santa Fe, NM 87501 (gut str)
Festival and concert schedules
Merlefest, April 25-28, Wilksboro, NC, 910/651-8666
Fiddler's Grove, Union Grove, NC May 24-26
704/539-4417 Harper A. Van Hoy, PO Box 11, Union Grove, NC 28689
Fifth Annual Blue Ridge Old-Time Music Week
Mars Hill, NC June 2-8, 1996 800/582-047 c...@mhc.edu
Old-Time Music on the Radio Conference (OTR), Mt. Airy, NC
June 4-6, 1996 j...@Euclid.DnE.WVNET.EDU
Mt. Airy, NC June 7-8, 1996
16th Annual Summer Solstice Festival, Calabasas, CA June 21-23, 1996
California Traditional Music Society, 4401 Trancas Place,
Trancas, CA 91356--53399 ct...@lafn.org 818/342-7664
West Virginia State Folk Festival, Glenville, WV June 21-22, 1996
Festival of American Fiddle Tunes June 23-30, June 30-July 7
Centrum, PO Box 1158, Port Townsend, WA 983368-0958 3380/385-3102
Swannanoa, NC, Old-Time Week, July 21-27
61st Annual Old Fiddler's Convention, Galax, VA August 7-10
PO Box 655, Galax, VA 24333; Tom Jones 540/236-8541 gen info
Indiana Fiddler's Gathering, June 28-30, Battleground, IN
317/742-14419
Appalachian String Band Festival Clifftop, WV August 1-4
Ashokan Southern Week, August 11-17 914/338-2996
Lake Genero Music and Dance Jam, Lake Genero Park, Hamlin, PA
August 30-Sept. 2--For more information, 914/232-4657 or
Email to bo...@morea.terranet.com or laz...@netaxs.com.
Augusta Heritage Center Old-Time Weeks August 4-11 October 20-27
Fiddlers' Reunion October 25-27 AHC, Davis & Elkins College,
100 Campus Drive, Elkins, WV 26241 304/637-1209
aug...@DnE.wvnet.edu
Hammons Music Gathering, Marlinton, WV August 23-24
info, Dwight Diller, 304/653-4397
25th Annual Santa Barbara Old Time Fiddlers' Convention
Sunday, October 13, 1996, Stow House, 304 N. Los Carneros Rd.,
Goleta, CA (10 miles north of Santa Barbara)--For more
information, Peter Feldmann 805/688-9894, pfel...@BIX.com.
Related Lists
World Wide Web sites (which include some of the above information)
Brandywine Friends of Old Time Music web page
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jlupton/bfotm.html
Bulletin Board for Messages
http://140.190.128.190/oldtime/oldtime.html
Clyde Davenport Home Page
http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/davenport/CLYDE_DAVENPORT.html
Old-Time Music Links
http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~tkoosman/jca/oldtime.html
OTR Web Page (Old-Time Music on the Radio)
http://www.hidwater.com/OTR/
Appalachian Web Page
http://www.east-tenn-st.edu/~sfs1:archapp
Old-Time Music Page
http://www.primenet.com/~dsl/oldtime.html
American Folklife Center
http://lcweb.loc.gov/folklife/afc.html
Periodical Index
http://www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/resources/periodical.html
Lotus Dickey Home Page
http://www.bluemarble.net/~lotus/
Virtual Fiddle Camp
http://www.gpfn.sk.ca/arts/fiddle/index.html
Odell McGuire Home Page
http://www.wlu.edu/~omcguire/index2.html
For suggestions about this faq, to volunteer to develop it,
etc., send Email to s...@coe.berkeley.edu.
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Steve Goldfield :-{ {-: s...@coe.berkeley.edu
University of California at Berkeley Richmond Field Station
I think that you continue to do a great job in maintaining the FAQ
for this newsgroup. I have a couple of questions to throw out to
the readership though, inspired by things not seen on the FAQ
lists.
Three periodicals used to loom large in the old time music world,
but are not listed in the newsgroup's FAQ and I do not know current
status on them.
Old Time Music magazine was an excellent "quarterly" (every 4 years
it seemed) published in London, England by one of my favorite
writers and noted old time music scholar, Tony Russell. The last
issue I received (and my subscription has yet to run out) was issue
45/ Spring 1989. Has anyone seen a later issue? Does anyone know if
the magazine is dead? Also, my issue number 17 has disappeared.
Can anyone photocopy a replacement for me? I'd greatly appreciate
it.
Another stalwart of old time researchers was the John Edwards
Memorial Foundation (JEMF) Quarterly, formerly published at UCLA.
Since the JEMF collection has moved to Chapel Hill and now is part
of the Southern Folklife Collection, can anyone tell me if the
Quarterly is still an entity? I never subscribed, but used to be
able to buy single issues at various stores.
A third publication is one that I have never even seen (and shame
on me), but I have seen it cited in many other publications, record
liner, notes, etc. It is The Devil's Box, which is focused on
fiddling. Is it still published?
If any or all of these are are still available, could you add them
to the FAQ list, Steve? Thanks.
Regards,
Kerry
****** ******** ******** ***** *****
Kerry Blech Sheila Klauschie Blech Mirabelle Rose Blech
Seattle, Washington, U.S.A.
"The old tunes are the best tunes" -- Luther Davis
Kerry,
Here's the address for the Devil's Box:
305 Stella Dr.
Madison, Alabama 35758
I like it because it has a nice variety of fiddlers - old-time, bluegrass,
Texas, country, contest, and in-between. Some recordings reviewed here
I don't see reviewed elsewhere (BU or OTH) and sometimes I see them
first here! At $13/year, it's a good deal.
Barb Kuhns
Medway, OH
ba...@dayton.lib.oh.us (among others)
.
Old Time Music is no more. Word from Bob Pinson is that
Russel has other commitments (a job I think).
JEMF Quarterly has also ceased publication. Abou ten years
ago the JEMF collection was sold to the University of North
Carolina where it has become part of the Southern Folklife
Collection there. The Quarterly, on the other hand went
with its new editor, Paul Wells, to the Center for Popular
Music at Middle Tennessee State University in Murfreesboro.
The intent was to expand the scope of the journal, which
was renamed "American Vernacular Music" I believe. The
publishing schedule was about five years behind when I
subscribed in 1991. Around that point it was announced that
the journal would cease publication. According to Paul,
institutional support that he had been counting on from the
University was not forthcoming and so ended 20 years of
what was IM(humble)O,the best journal dealing with American
music.
And finally, Devil's Box is still publishing, 4 times a
year under the editorial leadershipmof Steve Davis. I
don't have the address at hand but can get it if some one
else can't provide it for you.
Jim Nelson
In article <4mav37$j...@newsreader.wustl.edu> jim nelson wrote:
>And finally, Devil's Box is still publishing, 4 times a
>year under the editorial leadershipmof Steve Davis. I
>don't have the address at hand but can get it if some one
>else can't provide it for you.
>
Also see Barb Kuhns' posting with address, etc. Thanks to both of
you for that info. I will not make the same mistake I made years
ago by not subscribing.
Speaking of the Devil...
Did you hear about that dyslexic fiddler who came to the crossroads
at midnight looking to sell his soul to Santa?
Regards (even if I have none for your taste!),