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Going Down the Road Feeling Bad -> orgin of song?

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Kyleolso

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May 31, 2004, 7:54:50 PM5/31/04
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Anyone have an idea where this song came from?

Brad Sondahl

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Jun 1, 2004, 10:23:23 AM6/1/04
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Well, like a lot of old tunes, I think the Carter Family was probably
first to record it...
Brad Sondahl

Kyleolso wrote:

> Anyone have an idea where this song came from?

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Paul Mitchell

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Jun 1, 2004, 10:51:01 AM6/1/04
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On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Brad Sondahl wrote:

> Well, like a lot of old tunes, I think the Carter Family was probably
> first to record it...

Unlikely, Brad. Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers parody it quite often
in their Corn Liquor Still in Georgia skits ("let's sing Going Down the
Road Feelin' Good", etc.)

Wish I was home to check Gus' text, but my bet is if you accept the
Lonesome Road Blues as being the same tune, then recordings by Clark
Kessinger, Da Costa Woltz's Southern Broadcasters, and Ernest Stoneman
might predate the Carters as well.

Paul

Kaallen

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Jun 1, 2004, 12:16:30 PM6/1/04
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Also, Samantha Bumgarner recorded Worried Blues, a closely related song, 1st
cousin to Going Down the Road Feeling Bad, on April 23, 1924.

That's a pretty early recording of a related sing. But where Going Down the
Road Feeling Bad actually came from? I don't know.

Kellie Allen

Carl Baron

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Jun 1, 2004, 12:41:12 PM6/1/04
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For starters (though I suspect the song is even older than this
reference suggests, 1918).
from The Fiddlers Companion <http://www.ceolas.org/tunes/fc/>
LONESOME ROAD BLUES. AKA and see "Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad."
Old-Time, Song Tune. USA, North Carolina. The song is widely known and
recorded as "Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad," locally called "Lonesome
Road Blues" in the Round Peak, North Carolina, region. Tommy Jarrell
remembers the tune "coming 'round" to the area about 1918 or so. County
778, Tommy Jarrell - "Pickin' on Tommy's Porch" (1984).

LukeHiNite

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Jun 1, 2004, 8:52:33 PM6/1/04
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Kellie Allen


That's a winner. Recorded just slightly before a Tanner/Puckett
session...although released after...Samantha & Eva might be the
first "stringband" vocalists to record.

(and just 2 fiddles don't count)

pvc

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box 541 rochdale NY 11434

Joseph Scott

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Jun 2, 2004, 1:51:12 AM6/2/04
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kyle...@aol.comedy (Kyleolso) wrote in message news:<20040531195450...@mb-m24.aol.com>...

> Anyone have an idea where this song came from?

The way you usually hear it, it largely all goes back to Henry
Whitter, who first recorded it in '23.

But Henry's song was apparently part of a '00s-'10s family of 16-bar
blues/proto-blues songs about going here and there, such as "Going
Away From Home" by John Snipes (John sees "trouble," Samantha's
"worried" -- all the same general thing, feeling blue), which was all
part of a larger family of not-necessarily-"the-blues"-as-such 16-bar
I-I-I-I-IV-IV-I-I-IV-IV-I-I-V-V-I-I-or-similar repetitive-lyric songs
along the lines of "Banjo Picking Girl" and "I Don't Like The Blues No
How" and such.

Joseph Scott

PaulH

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Jun 3, 2004, 1:52:34 AM6/3/04
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Does anyone have a favorite recording of Going Down the Road Feeling
Bad, and/or its close cousin, Lonesome Road Blues?

In writing this the version that popped first into my head is the fine
one done by the contemporary piedmont blues musicians John Cephas &
Phil Wiggins (on "Living Country Blues").

Paul

Paul Mitchell

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Jun 3, 2004, 7:20:57 AM6/3/04
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On 2 Jun 2004, PaulH wrote:

> Does anyone have a favorite recording of Going Down the Road Feeling
> Bad, and/or its close cousin, Lonesome Road Blues?

Fiddlin' Fred Cockerham and the Camp Creek Boys.

Paul

Lyle Lofgren

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Jun 3, 2004, 2:13:14 PM6/3/04
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paul_...@hotmail.com (PaulH) wrote in message news:<8dde9385.04060...@posting.google.com>...

> Does anyone have a favorite recording of Going Down the Road Feeling
> Bad, and/or its close cousin, Lonesome Road Blues?
>

If you enjoy banjo, you could do a lot worse than Wade Ward's "Chilly Winds."

Lyle

Jack Aldrich

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Jun 3, 2004, 4:38:38 PM6/3/04
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Amen. Back in aught sixty one I was playin' bluegrass banjo. Within a one
week period I saw the NLCR (at the 1st Topanga contest) and heard Wade paly
"Chilly Winds" on the Library of Congress record. I started plying old time
banjo and never looked back. It's wonderful.
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Joseph Scott

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Jun 3, 2004, 7:43:40 PM6/3/04
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> Does anyone have a favorite recording of Going Down the Road Feeling
> Bad, and/or its close cousin, Lonesome Road Blues?

Three of my favorites are Leftwich and Lilly, Cowboy T. Burks, and Cliff Carlisle.

Joseph Scott

LukeHiNite

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Jun 3, 2004, 8:53:38 PM6/3/04
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If you enjoy banjo, you could do a lot worse than Wade Ward's "Chilly Winds."

Lyle


That's also a great point to bring up;
both Bumgarner and Ward seem to
be unique in a low-bass regular G tuning
(the low D run down one octave). Wade
-if i remember correctly- used it on the
"unissued" OKeh (?) test from 20s when he was still singing the song, but opted
to run it back up by the time of the more
familiar AFS version a decade later.

To me it seems that the old archaic low
bass tuning was more suited to the
open-back "peanut" banjo (assuming
Samantha used an open back too). But it
does create an amazing effect on a resonator banjo. By the time he dropped
the habit of singing the words, it became
one of his showpieces. It's also addicting
to play.

Seven Inch Dilly

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Jun 3, 2004, 10:36:10 PM6/3/04
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"PaulH" wrote

Lucky for you. The first one that popped into mine was the Weavers.

-Dilly


David Sanderson

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Jun 4, 2004, 10:02:51 AM6/4/04
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Joseph Scott wrote:

Yes - the Leftwich recording is a must-hear.

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Joseph Scott

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Jun 4, 2004, 1:24:52 PM6/4/04
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One of my favorite things about the Wade Ward "Chilly Winds" is the
way he makes IV last exactly two and a half measures each time
through. There were others who did that 2 1/2 thing on blues sometimes
too, including Lightnin' Hopkins, so it was probably fairly well-known
across the South back in the '10s.

Joseph Scott

Peter Feldmann

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Jun 6, 2004, 12:20:10 PM6/6/04
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On 04 Jun 2004 00:53:38 GMT, lukeh...@aol.com (LukeHiNite)
wrote:

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>To me it seems that the old archaic low
>bass tuning was more suited to the
> open-back "peanut" banjo (assuming
>Samantha used an open back too). But it

I remember Tom Ashley using the term "peanut bnajo", back in
'63. It was his first banjo "come through a bill of peanuts, or
somethin'". Anybody know more about where this term
originates?

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LukeHiNite

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Jun 7, 2004, 2:47:44 PM6/7/04
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>I remember Tom Ashley using the term "peanut bnajo", back in
>'63. It was his first banjo "come through a bill of peanuts, or
>somethin'". Anybody know more about where this term
>originates?

I think Wade was referring to the banjo
as a prize he won for some kind
of contest involving peanuts. Picking?

If it was a trade, must have been alot
of nuts around.

Bill Dillof

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Jun 9, 2004, 2:16:20 PM6/9/04
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Naturally, I will always favor Ernest Stoneman's rendition, with the
inimitable Kahl Brewer on fiddle. WRD


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David Sanderson

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Jun 9, 2004, 11:31:21 PM6/9/04
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Bill Dillof wrote:
> Naturally, I will always favor Ernest Stoneman's rendition, with the
> inimitable Kahl Brewer on fiddle. WRD

The world could do with a Kahle Brewer collection, it strikes me; he was
a remarkably fine musician.

Joseph Scott

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Jun 10, 2004, 10:15:20 PM6/10/04
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Tommy Jarrell
> remembers the tune "coming 'round" to the area about 1918 or so.

I just remembered that Elizabeth Cotten suggested somewhere that she
was playing this particular song when she was around 12, which would
get us back to around 1907. Jarrell knew it as a 12-bar song, right?
Broonzy (who didn't necessarily know it when he was young) did too. In
my opinion it was likely a 16-bar tune first, before some shortened it
to 12 -- that would parallel some other songs such as "See See Rider,"
"Poor Boy A Long Ways From Home," "Steamboat Whistle Blues"/"K.C.
Railroad Blues"/"Frisco Blues," and "Red River Blues" where it seems
the older musicians knew them as 16-bar more and the younger musicians
knew them as 12-bar more.

Joseph Scott

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