Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Help: New Technics SL1200 MK2 sounds distorted... ugh...

972 views
Skip to first unread message

chasbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Jan 15, 2008, 11:53:00 AM1/15/08
to
I decided to upgrade my turntable to a Technics SL1200 MK2. Then I
found out that I needed to upgrade my receiver too (Onkyo 8522). Oh,
and I bought some new Polk bookshelf speakers.

So you can imagine how close I am to shooting myself now that the
turntable just sounds distorted, like I'm playing on muddy records
(brand new copy of In Rainbows sounds bad).

The stylus is a Numark CX-1 (Tony Touch) and is new as well.

Is this a stylus problem, a wiring problem (CD player sounds fine) a
anti-skate problem (fuzz seems to come out of the right side more than
the left), tracking problem or a counterweight problem?

If anyone can offer some advice I'll be eternally grateful. If not I'm
going to start throwing a couple hundred of my records into a brick
wall.

All the best.

Bassplayer12

unread,
Jan 15, 2008, 12:15:47 PM1/15/08
to
I have one like yours. Excellent turntable.
Is it a brand new one? Did you check if the cartridge and the stylus are
well in place?
There is a ground wire on the turntable. Is it connected?
Try cleaning the connections on the wires and on the receiver.
If your CD player sounds fine, I doubt your receiver is bad. I may be wrong.
Let me know.

<chasbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d7a99aad-4752-4882...@21g2000hsj.googlegroups.com...

Scott Dorsey

unread,
Jan 15, 2008, 12:50:15 PM1/15/08
to
In article <478cea42$0$4055$9a56...@news.aliant.net>,

Basically, the SL1200 is a DJ turntable. It is intended for quick cuing
up, not for sound quality. The Numark cartridge is not something I would
wish on my worst enemy.

If you want a home stereo, you probably want a turntable that is a little
bit more delicate, with a much lighter arm that has better tracking. I
would suggest a used Thorens TD126 or one of the Music Hall turntables
as a good entry level system. Pick a cartridge that is well-suited to
whatever arm you get, and NOT some spherical-stylus DJ crap.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

chasbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Jan 15, 2008, 4:48:48 PM1/15/08
to
Yeah, the 1200 is brand new. The cartridge seems to be in place well,
but because it's all-in-one the needle won't like up with that white
plastic thing technics ships with (not sure if that would cause the
problem).

I have the ground wire connected to the receiver too.

I bought a new cartridge/stylus on my lunch break today and will try
that tonight to see if it works.

(Everything is brand new: 1200, speakers, receiver.)

Thanks!

chasbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Jan 15, 2008, 4:50:34 PM1/15/08
to
Yeah, I bought a new cartridge today that seems less DJ-ish and I'll
try that out.

I just bought a new Technics 1200, so I think I'll stick with that,
but thank you for the recommendation.

Bassplayer12

unread,
Jan 15, 2008, 5:57:58 PM1/15/08
to

<chasbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c4e22d00-e612-4d0e...@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

If you care to know, I have been using a Shure M95HE cartridge on my SL1200
for years with very good results.
Like Scott says, the SL1200 is a DJ turntable but it does sound pretty good
in my system, which includes Bryston amplification and JBL XPL-200's
speakers.


chasbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Jan 15, 2008, 10:12:31 PM1/15/08
to
Would this have anything to do with it: the arm seems to be going up
and down slightly when the record makes a full rotation. Any chance
the platter could be unbalanced? Would that cause the fuzz? Or is that
normal?

Should I tighten/loosen the tone arm screws at all?

I put a new cartridge in and it sounds a little better, but I can
still notice some distortion.

Why doesn't any thing ever just work correctly?

Laurence Payne

unread,
Jan 16, 2008, 5:44:54 AM1/16/08
to
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:12:31 -0800 (PST), chasbl...@gmail.com
wrote:

Well, if you'd plugged in a CD player it probably would have :-)

Have you set the tracking weight and anti-skate correctly? Checked
alignment of the cartridge? A little bit of up-and-down is normal.

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Ben Bradley

unread,
Jan 17, 2008, 10:36:52 PM1/17/08
to
In rec.audio.pro,rec.music.collecting.vinyl,alt.music.makers.dj, On
Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:36:32 GMT, BJt...@the.Controls wrote:

>On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:57:58 -0400, "Bassplayer12"
><pere...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

...

>>Then I
>>found out that I needed to upgrade my receiver too
>

>Why did you need to upgrade your amp just because you bought a new
>turntable?


>
>>So you can imagine how close I am to shooting myself now that the
>>turntable just sounds distorted, like I'm playing on muddy records
>

>You have plugged you turntable into the phono input haven't you?

There's another possibility here (I read through the whole thread
and just thought of this, I'm surprised no one else mentioned it), the
receiver could have the phono input set for a moving-coil cartridge
(which has a REALLY low output, so the input would have REALLY high
gain, and probably distort if the more conventional
moving-magnet/moving iron cartridge is used, which the Numark surely
is). On some receivers there is a switch on the back with a "MM"
position and a "MC" position. If it's in the "MC" position, switch it
to the "MM" position and see if that helps.

Or the receiver may have two sets of phono inputs, one for an MM
cartridge and the other for an MC cartridge. Make sure the turntable
is plugged into the MM input, and of course set the input selector to
the MM phono position.


soundhaspriority

unread,
Jan 18, 2008, 4:49:28 AM1/18/08
to
In story c4e22d00-e612-4d0e...@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com,
"chasbl...@gmail.com" <chasbl...@gmail.com> wrote...

> Yeah, the 1200 is brand new. The cartridge seems to be in place well,
> but because it's all-in-one the needle won't like up with that white
> plastic thing technics ships with (not sure if that would cause the
> problem).

I don't know why you think your brand new table is distorted. These babies
are terrific for scratching - Puffy and Big Pussy all are running them at
their gigs. You tried scratching along with one o them rap minus one CD's
and get some better sense of it?

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511

1h1...@att.net

unread,
Feb 13, 2008, 1:51:30 PM2/13/08
to
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:53:00 -0800 (PST), chasbl...@gmail.com
wrote:


Three things,

A - Ensure your needle is clean. I have a small battery powered
magnifier that has 60x magnification.

B - Did your ground your turntable to the reciever?

C - Some receivers have an impedance and or capacitance option
for the turntable. Check yours.

Alternatively, take your turntable to a friend's house, and try it
with their reciever.

Larry Vrooman

P.S. sorry for the slow reply.


marika

unread,
Mar 2, 2008, 11:36:55 AM3/2/08
to

<1h1...@att.net> wrote in message
news:nqe6r3hqtskntn049...@4ax.com...
>

>
> C - Some receivers have an impedance and or capacitance option
> for the turntable. Check yours.
>

then they must have a few owners or whatever

mk5000

"How could I not have known? He was Boy George for Halloween, he has a
diffuser on his hairdryer, and he's prettier than me. "--Will and Grace

Soundhaspriority

unread,
Mar 27, 2008, 10:54:20 PM3/27/08
to

> Yeah, the 1200 is brand new. The cartridge seems to be in place well,


> but because it's all-in-one the needle won't like up with that white
> plastic thing technics ships with (not sure if that would cause the
> problem).

I don't know why you think your brand new table is distorted. These babies

mpou...@gmail.com

unread,
Mar 8, 2018, 11:45:57 AM3/8/18
to
Did you manage to figure it out? I am facing the exact same problem.
0 new messages