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Dan Leeson: LEESON@admin.fhda.edu

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Sep 23, 1993, 9:07:06 AM9/23/93
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If one can accept a little Kentucky windage, a direct descendent of
Adam and Even (with a line that can be traced) died yesterday.
Abravanel was a wonderful musician but I have always personally
been as much interested in his genealogy as his outstanding musical
contributions.

Abravanel traced his lineage directly back to the 15th century Spanish
politician, Don Isaac Abravanel, the very man who arranged the marriage
of Queen Isabel and King Ferdinand, united the country, and ultimately
led to the expulsion of both the Jews and Arabs from Spain. Only
Don Isaac was to have been given permission to stay in Spain by virtue
of his contributions to the state, but he excused himself and left.

One of Don Isaac's conceits was his personal interest in genealogy whereby
he traced himself to King David. I am unable to comment on the accuracy
of his claim, but that is what Don Isaac said. I can trace my
genealogy to last Tuesday with some accuracy, so I presume that Don
Isaac can do a lot better. Besides, he was closer to the source.

Once one gets to King David, there is nothing to it. The begats of
Genesis through Deuteronomy trace David's lineage back to Adam and
Eve quite nicetly (though a little sketchily at times).

I suppose that since Abravanel came from the loins of King David
(so to speak), that makes him related to Jesus, too. Now that's
a prestigious genealogy.

When I was a boy growing up in New Jersey, I used to listen to the
Utah Symphony of a Saturday evening, partly because it was one of
the few orchestras that broadcast nationally (along with the Ok. City
Symphony under Guy Fraser Harrison, whoever he was), and partly
because there was a mystery of listening to music as far away
from New Jersey as Utah was (wherever that was to the mind of a
10 year old). I think that Abravanel's conducting of a Mahler work
was the first time I ever heard anything of that composer.

He led a rich, full musical life. He had enormous influence on the
way music is done in America. I am very glad that one of Adam and
Eve's descendents turned out to be a good kid!!

R.I.P. Maurice Abravanel.

Dan Leeson (lee...@admin.fhda.edu)

Brian J Schuth

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Sep 23, 1993, 10:31:27 AM9/23/93
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I must have missed mention of Abravanel's death, as this was the first
I've heard of it. His Mahler was the first Mahler I heard, beginning a
long and fruitful attachment to that music. His recording of the 7th
still has qualities unmatched by any other recording (including a certain
scruffiness in the brass!).

World feels a little emptier, knowing that he isn't around...

Eric Schissel

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Sep 23, 1993, 1:16:36 PM9/23/93
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This is .very. bad news. (It does help explain why one of M. Abravanel's
recordings of unusual music was played on the radio today or yesterday
in this area, however.) Anyone want to contribute an informal Abravanel
discography?

-Eric Schissel

--
Changeable moods, and still wants to know the final mode of Miaskovski 11 symph.
es...@crux2.cit.cornell.edu Eric Schissel, at least once in a while.
I speak for myself, and may no one presume to speak for me.

Francois Velde

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Sep 23, 1993, 2:59:46 PM9/23/93
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lee...@aspen.fhda.edu (Dan Leeson: LEE...@admin.fhda.edu) writes:
|If one can accept a little Kentucky windage, a direct descendent of
|Adam and Even (with a line that can be traced) died yesterday.
|Abravanel was a wonderful musician but I have always personally
|been as much interested in his genealogy as his outstanding musical
|contributions.
|
|Abravanel traced his lineage directly back to the 15th century Spanish
|politician, Don Isaac Abravanel, the very man who arranged the marriage
|of Queen Isabel and King Ferdinand, united the country, and ultimately
|led to the expulsion of both the Jews and Arabs from Spain. Only
|Don Isaac was to have been given permission to stay in Spain by virtue
|of his contributions to the state, but he excused himself and left.
|
|One of Don Isaac's conceits was his personal interest in genealogy whereby
|he traced himself to King David.

The French aristocratic family of Levis-Mirepoix claimed descent from
a cousin of the Virgin Mary.

(cross-posted to soc.roots...).

--
Francois Velde


Keith Moulton

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Sep 23, 1993, 4:26:55 PM9/23/93
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In article <930923130...@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>,

Dan Leeson: LEE...@admin.fhda.edu <lee...@aspen.fhda.edu> wrote:
>If one can accept a little Kentucky windage, a direct descendent of
>Adam and Even (with a line that can be traced) died yesterday.
>Abravanel was a wonderful musician but I have always personally
>been as much interested in his genealogy as his outstanding musical
>contributions.

Please....:-] Due to the geometric nature of reproduction,
genealogical claims going back to the 15th century and farther are
rather insignificant, unless there are several different lines of ancestors
which converged to produce him. Even then, what does it matter!?
Going back far enough, just about anyone can trace their
descendancy to someone famous or significant. Let's see... if there's
a new generation every 25 years for 500 years then everyone should be
able to say they are directly related to 1,048,576 persons according to
my math (2 to the 20th power). That's quite a number.
And aren't we all *supposed* to be related to Adam & Eve? There
is emprical support from the scientific community for this position as
well as Biblical support.
Humph,
Keith Moulton (a real Mayflower kid:-)

>
>R.I.P. Maurice Abravanel.

My respects.
>
>Dan Leeson (lee...@admin.fhda.edu)

BONNIE

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Sep 23, 1993, 7:45:59 PM9/23/93
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My name is Roger David Carasso. I am Maurice's grandson. The funeral
is on Sunday, and I'll be flying to Salt Lake City and back. I
remember as a little kid being brought around to all his classical
concerts in the Summer in Santa Barbara (He taught and played there in
the Summer). Almost no one called him Maurice. We called him Bijou
(it's French for jewel). I remember one time when I was in high
school and he called on the phone to talk to my dad, and my dad wasn't
home. He asked me how I was and apparently I sounded depressed,
because a few days later in the mail he sent me a check for $1000 and
a poem by ogdan nash, saying something to the effect that money can't
by happiness but it can't hurt and hope you feel better. He had a
cute walk with grandpa slippers and a warm smile. He remained sharp,
intelligent, and funny till the end.

>Abravanel was a wonderful musician but I have always personally
>been as much interested in his genealogy as his outstanding musical
>contributions.

>...


>He led a rich, full musical life. He had enormous influence on the
>way music is done in America. I am very glad that one of Adam and
>Eve's descendents turned out to be a good kid!!
>
>R.I.P. Maurice Abravanel.

Thank you. I'm glad others appreciated him as well.

Roger
--

"(Showing my evil plot) the Candy Man can 'cause he mixes it with
love and makes the world taste good..."
__-- Sammy __--

William Hsu

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Sep 24, 1993, 4:14:16 PM9/24/93
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> Thank you. I'm glad others appreciated him as well.

I have very fond memories of Abravanel's recording of
Mahler's 7th, which I must have listened to hundreds
of times. I was growing up in Hong Kong in the early
'70s, and there were very few outlets for classical
music written after 1900.

Bill

Mark McConnell

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Sep 27, 1993, 2:04:28 AM9/27/93
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Here's the verse I remember:

Gaudeamus igitur
Juvenes dum sumus.
Gaudeamus igitur
Juvenes dum sumus.
[forget the next two lines; one contained "senectutem"]
Nos habebit humus,
Nos habebit humus.

Christine Waigl

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Sep 27, 1993, 7:37:41 AM9/27/93
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Mark McConnell (mmc...@math.okstate.edu) wrote:

: Here's the verse I remember:

: Gaudeamus igitur
: Juvenes dum sumus.
: Gaudeamus igitur
: Juvenes dum sumus.
: [forget the next two lines; one contained "senectutem"]

They are:
Post iucundam iuventutem,
Post molestam senectutem

HOLMAN EUGENE

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Sep 28, 1993, 10:21:34 AM9/28/93
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Sorry to hear of his passing. I'll always remember him for his energetic
recording of 'Judas Maccabaeus' which appeared on the Westminster label in
the early 1960s. It opened my ears to the fact that there was a lot more to
Handel than the ubiquitous Messiah. And the clearly articulated dialogue -
especially the line 'the huge, tower-backed elephant let out a horrid
grunt' - awakened my to some of the unexpected charms of the Handelian
libretto. I'll miss him.

Eugene Holman
University of helsinki

David Adams

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Sep 30, 1993, 1:31:38 PM9/30/93
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Well I will always remember him for his preformance of "Gran Tarentell"
by Louis Moreau Gottschalk. Not your everyday pick I suppose, but its
what gets to me.

---
--David C. Adams Statistician Cray Research Inc. dad...@cray.com

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