classical music in national anthem
AVIKG
In article <335BDF...@wharton.upenn.edu>, Ainsley Tai
<ain...@wharton.upenn.edu> writes:
>Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
>Does anyone know?
>
>
YES IT IS AS WELL AS THE RUSSIAN NATIONAL ANTHEM OF THE TIME. YOU CAN HEAR
THAT ONE IN MARCH SLAV AS WELL.
IN SMETANA'S MOLDAU (FROM HIS MA VLAST)YOU CAN FIND ISRAEL'S NATIONL
ANTHEM HA'TIKVA.
avik-GUSTAV MAHLER SOCIETY-USA
Deryk Barker
Ainsley Tai (ain...@wharton.upenn.edu) wrote:
: Hi,
: I'm a beginner, btw, so pardon me if I ask a few questions that are
: obvious to you guys.
: I was just wondering which national anthems were adapted from classical
: pieces. So far, the one definite example is the EU anthem, which is of
: course Beethoven's 9th Symphony 4th movement. What are other examples?
: Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
: Does anyone know?
The 1812 oveture contains both the Marseillaise and the Tsarist
Anthem. Tchaik was depicting a battle after all and had the example of
Beethoven's infamous Wellington's Sieg, which used Rule Britannia anbd
I forget what else.
Haydn wrote what is today the German National Anthm, although he
actually wrote it as an anthem, for the Austrian Emperor.
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Ramon Khalona
Ainsley Tai wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a beginner, btw, so pardon me if I ask a few questions that are
> obvious to you guys.
>
> I was just wondering which national anthems were adapted from classical
> pieces. So far, the one definite example is the EU anthem, which is of
> course Beethoven's 9th Symphony 4th movement. What are other examples?
>
> Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
> Does anyone know?
>
The trumpet plays "La Marselleise".
Ramon Khalona
Carlsbad, California
Ainsley Tai
M.P.McCaffrey
While we're on the subject, the Austrian National Anthem is the second
movement of Haydn's String Quartet Op. 76, # 3 " Emperor " Just another
reason to love Haydn's String Quartets, IMHO.
--
Mike
AVIKG <av...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970421222...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> In article <335BDF...@wharton.upenn.edu>, Ainsley Tai
> <ain...@wharton.upenn.edu> writes:
>
> >Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
> >Does anyone know?
> >
> >
>
JannE
>Walter C. Koehler wrote:
>
> Not knowing for sure, I'd be surprised if Sibelius' "Finlandia" was
> *not* Finland's national anthem.
Nope !
The finnish poet Runeberg wrote a poem that was composed music to by
Fredric Pacius , its name is 'Vårt Land (Swedish)' or 'Our Land
(English)' or 'Maamme' (Finnish).
The original language was Swedish because of the great number of people
speaking swedish in Finland , among them (I think) Runeberg.
check : http://www.vn.fi/vn/um/finfo/english/maamme.html
//JannE (the Swede)
Caius Marcius
In <335BDF...@wharton.upenn.edu> Ainsley Tai
<ain...@wharton.upenn.edu> writes:
>I was just wondering which national anthems were adapted from
classical
>pieces. So far, the one definite example is the EU anthem, which is of
>course Beethoven's 9th Symphony 4th movement. What are other examples?
>
It's not exactly a national anthem, but the last movement of Gliere's
Bronze Horseman ballet suite - "Hymn to the Great City" (i.e,. St.
Petersburg) - was adopted as the official anthem of what was then
Leningrad in 1950. Shostakovich complained of having to listen to
music blared forth constantly from loudspeakers at the Leningrad
Central Station.
- CMC
AVIKG
In article <5jh6fo$6gh$1...@ccins.camosun.bc.ca>, dba...@ccins.camosun.bc.ca
(Deryk Barker) writes:
>The 1812 oveture contains the Tsarist
>Anthem.
also in march slav.
smetana and ka'tikva.
avik-gms
Tugrul Tanyol
The most important is German national anthem. Papa Haydn's quartett, from
op.76 cycle. Poor Germans! An Austrian composer!
Tugrul
Ainsley Tai wrote in article <335BDF...@wharton.upenn.edu>...
>Hi,
>
>I'm a beginner, btw, so pardon me if I ask a few questions that are
>obvious to you guys.
>
>I was just wondering which national anthems were adapted from classical
>pieces. So far, the one definite example is the EU anthem, which is of
>course Beethoven's 9th Symphony 4th movement. What are other examples?
>
>Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
>Does anyone know?
>
>Ainsley
>
Ross Mandell
av...@aol.com (AVIKG) wrote:
>In article <335BDF...@wharton.upenn.edu>, Ainsley Tai
><ain...@wharton.upenn.edu> writes:
>>Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
>>Does anyone know?
The German anthem comes from Haydn's Emperor quartet.
>YES IT IS AS WELL AS THE RUSSIAN NATIONAL ANTHEM OF THE TIME. YOU CAN HEAR
>THAT ONE IN MARCH SLAV AS WELL.
>IN SMETANA'S MOLDAU (FROM HIS MA VLAST)YOU CAN FIND ISRAEL'S NATIONL
>ANTHEM HA'TIKVA.
The theme from The Moldau actually comes from an old Italian folk
song. Smetana thought it was Bohemian. Israel took the theme from
this same source, but not directly from Smetana.
Mark Starr
> smetana and ka'tikva.
>
> avik-gms
I respond:
Probably not.
From "The Book of World Famous Music" by James Fuld, under "Moldau":
"'The Moldau,' with music by B. Smetana. appears in the symphonic
poem 'Ma Vlast, No. 2, Vltava,' which was published in Dec. 1879 for
piano four-hands by Urganek, Prague...The orchestral score of 'Vlatava'
was published in Feb., 1880...
"An extremely similar melody, consistently in the minor, serves as the
music for the Israeli national anthem, 'Hatikva,' meaning 'hope.' The
words of 'Hatikva' by Naphtali Herz Imber were first published in
'Barkai' in Jerusalem in 1886 under the title 'Titvatenu' (Our Hope)...
The music of 'Hatikva,' together with the words, were first published
in 'Vier Lieder' using 'Syrischer Melodien' arranged by S. T. Friedland
and printed by Roeder, Leipzig. THERE IS NO RECOGNIZED COMPOSER
OF THE MELODY [of 'Hatikva.']
"Both the 'Moldau' and 'Hatikva' melodies are similar to 'Ack,
Vaemeland, du Skoena' (Oh, You Beautiful Wermland [a province in
Western Sweden]), a song with words written in 1822 by the Swedish
historian Anders Fryxell. The melody was widely known in Sweden,
but it probably of Dutch origin..."
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~~~~~~~)(~~~~~~ from: Mark Starr ~~~~~~)(~~~~~~~~
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Torgny Gustafsson
The Swedish national anthem "Du Gamla Du Fria" is from the Norwegian (!)
composer Johan Svendsen's "Two Swedish Folksongs". It is a curious
national anthem, in that the text nowhere mentions the name of the
country it is supposed to celebrate. In the opinion of many, a much more
appropriate choice would have been the marvelous "Sverige", music by
Stenhammar, words by von Heidenstam, but it is unfortunately quite
difficult to sing for unschooled voices.
TG
Deryk Barker
Ross Mandell (Ro...@Juno.com) wrote:
: av...@aol.com (AVIKG) wrote:
: >In article <335BDF...@wharton.upenn.edu>, Ainsley Tai
: ><ain...@wharton.upenn.edu> writes:
: >>Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
: >>Does anyone know?
: The German anthem comes from Haydn's Emperor quartet.
Well yes and no. Haydn actually composed The Emperor Franz Joseph's
Hymn or Kaiserlied as a patriotic song in late 1796 or early 1797 (it
was first performend in Feb 1797). He used the melody as the theme of
the slow movement of the "Emperor" Quartet. Which is how it got its
title.
So what has become today's German anthem was actually written as an
anthem first.
CONSTANTIN MARCOU
M.P.McCaffrey wrote:
>
> While we're on the subject, the Austrian National Anthem is the second
> movement of Haydn's String Quartet Op. 76, # 3 " Emperor " Just another
> reason to love Haydn's String Quartets, IMHO.
> --
> Mike
>
>
Is it, Mike? I'm not sure, but you may be right. I _do_ know that the
melody was also used for "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles" which was
(I believe) outlawed by the Allied occupation administration after the
war, and a substitute anthem was found. Has it been reinstated? I
thought the same had occurred in Austria. (The Germans, of course,
maintained -- and I think quite plausibly -- that the words were
misconstrued, and merely mean that a German should place his country
above all else in his heart.)
I was also under the impression (and please correct me if I'm wrong,
anybody, because I don't remeber where I got this information)) that the
anthem came before the quartet and was composed by Haydn as "Gott
Erhalte Franz den Kaiser" (God preserve Franz the emperor) around the
time of the Napoleonic wars out of a feeling of patriotic fervor and
some slight envy that the English king had an anthem written by a great
composer (this, of course, presumes that "God Save the King" is by
Handel -- again I'm not sure of my facts here) and the feeling that
every country deserves equal honors. Later (I think) Haydn decided this
would make a good chamber piece.
Like I said, a lot of this is based on my ever-worsening memory, so
have at it those of you who are better informed.
Sincerely,
Con
CONSTANTIN MARCOU
Torgny Gustafsson wrote:
>
> The Swedish national anthem "Du Gamla Du Fria" is from the Norwegian (!)
> composer Johan Svendsen's "Two Swedish Folksongs".
Perhaps from the days before Norwegian independence, when it was part of
Sweden?
Con
Walter C. Koehler
Ainsley Tai wrote:
>
[snip]
> I was just wondering which national anthems were adapted from classical
> pieces. So far, the one definite example is the EU anthem, which is of
> course Beethoven's 9th Symphony 4th movement. What are other examples?
[snip]
Kjetil Helstrup
CONSTANTIN MARCOU wrote:
>
> Torgny Gustafsson wrote:
> >
> > The Swedish national anthem "Du Gamla Du Fria" is from the Norwegian (!)
> > composer Johan Svendsen's "Two Swedish Folksongs".
>
This seriously looks like being the other way around. I.e. the anthem
most likely *is* a "swedish folk song" that Svendsen arranged.
These national romantic composers did a lot of exactly that all the
time.
According to Stravinsky, bad composers borrow - good composers steal!
I'm afraid Svendsen here belongs to the former. Anyway one has to be
a bit careful on determining the origin of those tunes.
> Perhaps from the days before Norwegian independence, when it was part of
> Sweden?
>
> Con
That is of course also true, but the Norwegians certainly didn't
consider
themselves Swedes during those 91 years!
Kjetil
Ross Mandell
They love this patriotic work but I don't belive that it is the
official antional anthem.
Austrians also love On the Beautiful Blue Danube by J. Strauss the
younger, and it has almost a national anthem place there, but it is
not the official national anthem.
Peter Breiner
> Ainsley Tai (ain...@wharton.upenn.edu) wrote:
> : Hi,
>
> : I'm a beginner, btw, so pardon me if I ask a few questions that are
> : obvious to you guys.
>
> : pieces. So far, the one definite example is the EU anthem, which is of
> : course Beethoven's 9th Symphony 4th movement. What are other examples?
Just offhand:
current Russian- Glinka: Ivan Susanin
Czech Republic- Frantisek Skroup: Fidlovacka (opera)
The most comprehensive sources for anthems -
W.L Reed & M.J. Bristow: National Anthems of the World/Sterling
Publishing Co.
World's Anthems: 6 CD's on NAXOS (to be released in fall)
--
Peter Breiner
pbre...@interlog.com
http://www.interlog.com/~pbreiner/pbh.htm
Caius Marcius
In <335CEA...@earthlink.net> CONSTANTIN MARCOU
<conm...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
>M.P.McCaffrey wrote:
>>
>> While we're on the subject, the Austrian National Anthem is the
second
>> movement of Haydn's String Quartet Op. 76, # 3 " Emperor " Just
another
>> reason to love Haydn's String Quartets, IMHO.
>>
Smetena also used it as the main subject of the finale of his Triumphal
Symphony, Op. 6. It's a very festive and marvelously skilful
manipulation of this notorious theme.
- CMC
CONSTANTIN MARCOU
David Brooks wrote:
> Shall you or I post our slightly different versions of the origins of God
> Save the Queen?
>
Well, whichever of you does it, I would certainly like to hear about it.
Regards,
Con
Robert John Kerr
While we're on the subject, I wish the English would adopt "Land of Hope
and Glory" (from Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance march No.4) as their
national anthem instead of the atrocious "God Save the King/Queen."
Also, is Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture also known as "A festival veruture
on the Danish nation anthem," or is this an entirely different work?
--
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David Brooks
dba...@ccins.camosun.bc.ca (Deryk Barker) writes:
>Ainsley Tai (ain...@wharton.upenn.edu) wrote:
>: I was just wondering which national anthems were adapted from classical
>: pieces. So far, the one definite example is the EU anthem, which is of
>: course Beethoven's 9th Symphony 4th movement.
Horrible idea for an anthem.
>: Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
>: Does anyone know?
>
>The 1812 oveture contains both the Marseillaise and the Tsarist
>Anthem.
Careful there, Deryk. Tchaikovsky is obviously quoting the two existing
tunes for dramatic effect. The original poster asked for anthems *derived
from* classical pieces, although the thread has confused the two issues,
and both sets of answers are interesting in their own right.
Shall you or I post our slightly different versions of the origins of God
Save the Queen?
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David Brooks
conm...@earthlink.net writes:
>David Brooks wrote:
>
>> Shall you or I post our slightly different versions of the origins of God
>> Save the Queen?
>>
>
Oh well :-)
The tune's origin is buried in volumes of keyboard dance music of the 16th
Century, and may originate in the Portuguese dance "La Folia". The tune
was published in almost its present form in "Thesaurus Musicus" in 1744,
and arranged in Grand Fashion by Thomas Arne in 1745 (some incorrectly
believe he composed it). Words were published in "Gentleman's Magazine" in
1745 to fit the tune. Handel used it in the "Occasional Oratorio" in 1746.
Many countries stole the tune; the U.S. stole it for a number of different
word settings.
There are straightforward arrangements in G for chorus, and B-flat for
instruments. The best-known ceremonial arrangement is by Gordon Jacob,
while Britten turned it into a miniature masterpiece.
There are six verses. You don't want to know.
Deryk has also said "The tune is rhytmically and stylistically a galliard:
there is a Geneva tune of 1603 introduced at a banquet celbratingt the Duke
of Savoy's seizing of the city the 'Escelade' which has resemblances to
GSTK, as does an English Xmas Carol of 1611 'Remember, O thou Man'. Even
stronger resemblances are in a keyboard (albeit minor key) piece by
(appropriately) John Bull."
It is also said that the tune originated with Lully.
Ross Mandell
>Also, is Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture also known as "A festival veruture
>on the Danish nation anthem," or is this an entirely different work?
This piece is his opus 15 from 1866. The 1812 Overture is his opus
49.
Brett Langston
In message <335F6A...@cs.nott.ac.uk>
Robert John Kerr <r...@cs.nott.ac.uk> writes:
> Also, is Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture also known as "A festival veruture
> on the Danish nation anthem," or is this an entirely different work?
It's a different work. The Festival Overture on the Danish National
Anthem, Op. 15, was written by Tchaikovsky in 1866, for the marriage
of the heir to the Russian throne (the future Alexander III) to a
Danish Princess. It's not a bad piece of its kind, and it includes
quotations from the Danish and Tsarist Russian anthems (sometimes
simultaneously!).
Brett Langston
Dimitris Bouzanis
Hi,
The German anthem is original one Haydn String quartett.
I don´t know more. If you allready know more please mail back.
Dimitris
M.P.McCaffrey
Dimitris, Haydn Op. 76, # 3, 2nd movement, from an original song by Haydn.
Was the Austrian Anthem for a long time, is now The German Anthem.
--
Mike
Dimitris Bouzanis <Bouz...@t-online.de> wrote in article
<5jma8q$33e$1...@news00.btx.dtag.de>...
Leroy Curtis
In article <5jma8q$33e$1...@news00.btx.dtag.de>, Dimitris Bouzanis
<Bouz...@t-online.de> writes
>
>Hi,
>The German anthem is original one Haydn String quartett.
>I don´t know more. If you allready know more please mail back.
>
Haydn, after his return from England in 1794, as the Austrian Volkslied
or People's song, because he had been so impressed with the affection
the English had for their royal family, and with way "God save the King"
was always sung on any state occasion. He and other Austrian artists of
the day felt that Austria needed a similar, popular song, and the words
began with "Gott erhaltet Franz den Kaiser" (God save Emperor Francis).
The tune was later treated as a theme and variations in the slow
movement of the "Emperor" quartet.
--
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Mr M N Raines
Robert John Kerr (r...@cs.nott.ac.uk) wrote:
: While we're on the subject, I wish the English would adopt "Land of Hope
: and Glory" (from Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance march No.4) as their
: national anthem instead of the atrocious "God Save the King/Queen."
It would make a much better national anthem. I hate to be picky though, but
isn't it from the 1st P&C march, not the fourth?
Incidentally, I got slated for playing it on my radio show this week,
because it's the Tories election campaign theme tune, apparently. So
whatever piece you use for a national anthem, it always has undesirable
connotations (does anyone actually know the other verses to God Save the
Queen - or the Marseillaise?) Not incredibly politically correct, I
imagine :)
BTW, these are not necessarily the views of W963, who may or may not
vote Labour. (in fact I think they're mostly Liberals - ugh.)
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Jonathan L. Ellis
>From: Ainsley Tai <ain...@wharton.upenn.edu>
>I was just wondering which national anthems were adapted from classical
>pieces. So far, the one definite example is the EU anthem, which is of
>course Beethoven's 9th Symphony 4th movement. What are other examples?
>Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
>Does anyone know?
The German national anthem was adapted from the slow movement of a
Haydn string quartet (where the tune serves as a theme for a set of
variations): that same Haydn quartet is now called the "Emperor" Quartet after
the Emperor Franz to whom it was dedicated, and who chose the tune in question
for the Austrian (at the time) national anthem.
By the way, Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture DOES use the "Marseillaise" (the
French national anthem) a lot, because it was composed to celebrate the 60th
anniversary of Napoleon's retreat from Russia in defeat. Some other
compositions have also used it, notably Schumann's "Faschingsschwank aus
Wien" piano suite. And certain composers have composed variations on national
anthem themes: for instance Beethoven's variations on "God Save the Queen"
(and a set on "Rule Britannia", though that isn't a real national anthem.)
Another point: I do not recognise the European
Community/Union to be a nation (as it does not, thank goodness - yet - have a
single government that has much power or sovereignty of its own), therefore
its anthem is by definition not a NATIONAL anthem.
Leroy Curtis
In article <cluster.3...@mcc.ac.uk>, "Jonathan L. Ellis"
<clu...@mcc.ac.uk> writes
>>From: Ainsley Tai <ain...@wharton.upenn.edu>
>
>>I was just wondering which national anthems were adapted from classical
>>pieces. So far, the one definite example is the EU anthem, which is of
>>course Beethoven's 9th Symphony 4th movement. What are other examples?
>
>>Also, in the 1812 Overture, it sounds like some French national song.
>>Does anyone know?
>
> The German national anthem was adapted from the slow movement of a
>Haydn string quartet (where the tune serves as a theme for a set of
>variations): that same Haydn quartet is now called the "Emperor" Quartet after
>the Emperor Franz to whom it was dedicated, and who chose the tune in question
>for the Austrian (at the time) national anthem.
This is not quite correct, in that the Austrian "Volkslied," or people's
song, came first, before the String Quartet. The song was later adopted
by Germany, with different words to those Haydn originally set.
Adrian Monk
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 19:24:23 GMT, clu...@mcc.ac.uk (Jonathan L.
Ellis) wrote:
>... certain composers have composed variations on national
>anthem themes: for instance Beethoven's variations on "God Save the Queen"
>(and a set on "Rule Britannia", though that isn't a real national anthem.)
Also the Liszt transcriptions of God Save the Queen and of the
Marseillaise.
> Another point: I do not recognise the European
>Community/Union to be a nation (as it does not, thank goodness - yet - have a
>single government that has much power or sovereignty of its own), therefore
>its anthem is by definition not a NATIONAL anthem.
you could have added: "...and a Union whose representatives are
unelected and whose basic philosphy is dirigist and undemocratic".
Adrian Monk
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Peter
Opus47 wrote:
>
> Well I counted 19 responses at this point. No one has mentioned the
> German National Anthem theme alluded to in the first movement of
> Shostakovich's 7th symphony "The Leningrad." The theme that Shostakovich
> chose also sounds like a quote from Lehar's the Merry Widow and a song
> that has the lyric "what's the matter with Maxim." Maxim was of course
> Shostakovich's son. This was then a triple cryptic theme.
>
> It is notable that the German National Anthem be sounded in the first
> movement of this symphony since the music represents the Germans invading
> the Soviet Union in what would become the greatest land battle on earth.
>
> Fred
Could you please give us your source for what you are saying, or could
you perhaps tell us exactly where the German national anthem is heard in
the 7th Symphony because I have not been able to find it. Also which
German German national anthem, since they had two at the time?
Contrary to what you have written, i.e. that the 7th Symphony represents
the German/Russian Great War, I have also read somewhere, unfortunately
I do not remember where, that this is really not true even though the
symphony is subtitled "Leningrad." I also do not know if Shostakovich
affixed this sub-title to his symphony or if someone else did it.
Perhaps someone could be good enough to clarify some of the above?
Thank you!
Opus47
Branimir Pofuk
> It is notable that the German National Anthem be sounded in the first
> movement of this symphony since the music represents the Germans invading
> the Soviet Union in what would become the greatest land battle on earth.
>
> Fred
>
Well, I guess you all know that the German National Anthem used to be the
Austrian Imperial Anthem, composed by Haydn (quoted from his "Kaiser"
string quartett). But, not so many of you would know that the tune is
actually a Croatian folk song that Haydn picked up somewhere in Burgenland
where there was and still is a large Croatian minority. There were some
Croatian musicologists who claimed Haydn to be a Croat by himself, but I
wouldn't go so far.
Branimir
JosKaufman
I don't know if it was mentioned, but the Israeli national anthem
"Hatikva" is based on the first theme from "The Moldau".
Leroy Curtis
In article <19970512210...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, JosKaufman
<joska...@aol.com> writes
>I don't know if it was mentioned, but the Israeli national anthem
>"Hatikva" is based on the first theme from "The Moldau".
I don't think so. They both derive from the same folk music tune,
possibly.