Recommendations for Bruckner #3?

Craig Young

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Mar 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/25/96

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I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a
recording by Celibidache / Suddeutscher Rundfunk Orchester Stuttgart on
Exclusive EX93T59 that is a very nice performance. Sound is not real good,
but the orchestra and conducting sure are!

Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?

Craig Young
yo...@tellabs.com

Deryk Barker

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Mar 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/26/96

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Craig Young (yo...@tellabs.com@) wrote:
: I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a

Surprisingly enough Sinopoli with the Dresden Staatskapelle on DG. Or
haitink and the VPO on Philips. Which version is the Celi BTW, 1889?
Pah!
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joseph louis rizzo

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Mar 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/26/96

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In article <1996Mar25.2...@tellab5.tellabs.com>,

Craig Young <yo...@tellabs.com> wrote:
>I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a
>recording by Celibidache / Suddeutscher Rundfunk Orchester Stuttgart on
>Exclusive EX93T59 that is a very nice performance. Sound is not real good,
>but the orchestra and conducting sure are!
>
>Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?
>

Harnoncourt and Inbal, both on Teldec, should be sought out. The Inbal
is a must own, because he uses a different performing version.

>Craig Young
>yo...@tellabs.com
>

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circuited by drool. =Dave Barry

Tony Movshon

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Mar 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/26/96

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>Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?

Bohm/VPO on Decca/London. I got it on a Decca import, and noticed
recently that the #3 and #4 are now a 2CD set (midpriced) in Europe.
Presumably that will happen here in time.

Tony Movshon
Center for Neural Science
New York University

yo...@tellabs.com

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Mar 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/26/96

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In <4j7qdl$3...@daria.cdnow.com>, dba...@camosun.bc.ca (Deryk Barker) writes:

>Craig Young (yo...@tellabs.com@) wrote:
>: I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a
>: recording by Celibidache / Suddeutscher Rundfunk Orchester Stuttgart on
>: Exclusive EX93T59 that is a very nice performance. Sound is not real good,
>: but the orchestra and conducting sure are!
>

>: Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?
>
>Surprisingly enough Sinopoli with the Dresden Staatskapelle on DG. Or
>haitink and the VPO on Philips. Which version is the Celi BTW, 1889?
>Pah!
>--
>Deryk.
>===========================================================================
>|Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Across the pale parabola of Joy |
>|Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada | |
>|email: dba...@camosun.bc.ca | Ralston McTodd |
>|phone: +1 604 370 4452 | (Songs of Squalor). |
>===========================================================================

Deryk,

Thanks for the reply. There are no real liner notes on this recording. It
is live, and was recorded in Stuttgart in 1981. There are not even movement
timings on the liner. It sounds like it was probably recorded as a
broadcast. I do not know enough about #3 to say which edition it is.

Craig Young
yo...@tellabs.com

Tony Movshon

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Mar 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/27/96

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>In <4j7qdl$3...@daria.cdnow.com>, dba...@camosun.bc.ca (Deryk Barker) writes:
>>Craig Young (yo...@tellabs.com@) wrote:
>>: I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a
>>: recording by Celibidache / Suddeutscher Rundfunk Orchester Stuttgart on
>>: Exclusive EX93T59 that is a very nice performance. Sound is not real good,
>>: but the orchestra and conducting sure are!
>>
>>: Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?
>>
>>Surprisingly enough Sinopoli with the Dresden Staatskapelle on DG. Or
>>haitink and the VPO on Philips. Which version is the Celi BTW, 1889?
>>Pah!

The Celi Bruckner 3 on Exclusive sounds like the 1889 edition to me.
It's certainly not the 1873 (?) edition that Inbal uses.

yo...@tellabs.com

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Mar 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/27/96

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In <4j7qdl$3...@daria.cdnow.com>, dba...@camosun.bc.ca (Deryk Barker) writes:
>Craig Young (yo...@tellabs.com@) wrote:
>: I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a
>: recording by Celibidache / Suddeutscher Rundfunk Orchester Stuttgart on
>: Exclusive EX93T59 that is a very nice performance. Sound is not real good,
>: but the orchestra and conducting sure are!
>
>: Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?
>
>Surprisingly enough Sinopoli with the Dresden Staatskapelle on DG. Or
>haitink and the VPO on Philips. Which version is the Celi BTW, 1889?
>Pah!

Deryk,

Thanks for the recommendations. I picked up the Haitink last night (I
always did like Haitinks Bruckner), and will let you know if these two are
the same version. I think there is another reply on here from Tony Movshon,
who thinks it is the 1889 edition.

Craig Young
yo...@tellabs.com

Tony Movshon

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Mar 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/27/96

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>>Surprisingly enough Sinopoli with the Dresden Staatskapelle on DG. Or
>>haitink and the VPO on Philips.
>

>Thanks for the recommendations. I picked up the Haitink last night (I
>always did like Haitinks Bruckner)

I was also fond of a Haitink/Concertgebouw recording that I have on LP.
Don't know if it was ever reissued on CD.

Sten4PGD

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Mar 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/27/96

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Haitink's earlier Bruckner 3 was released on CD as part of his Complete
set, Philips 442 040-2 9CDs.
Mark Stenroos

David Griegel

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Mar 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/27/96

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Craig Young (yo...@tellabs.com@) wrote:
: I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a
: recording by Celibidache / Suddeutscher Rundfunk Orchester Stuttgart on
: Exclusive EX93T59 that is a very nice performance. Sound is not real good,
: but the orchestra and conducting sure are!

: Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?

For the 1877 version, I'd suggest Sinopoli. Haitink is also good,
although you should be sure to plug your ears near the end to skip over
the extra bars Haitink added. I also like Sanderling's performance of
the 1890 edition. I actually like the new tunes in that version. And
also go for Inbal to hear Bruckner's original thoughts.

Dave
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John Proffitt

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Mar 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/29/96

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In article <1996Mar27....@tellab5.tellabs.com>, yo...@tellabs.com
wrote:

> In <4j7qdl$3...@daria.cdnow.com>, dba...@camosun.bc.ca (Deryk Barker) writes:

> >Craig Young (yo...@tellabs.com@) wrote:
> >: I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3.
>

> Thanks for the recommendations. I picked up the Haitink last night (I

> always did like Haitinks Bruckner), and will let you know if these two are
> the same version. I think there is another reply on here from Tony Movshon,
> who thinks it is the 1889 edition.

Haitink has always been a partisan for the 1877 version. His was the first
recording ever (1963) for Philips, with the Concertgebouw, of the Oesser
edition of 1877. This has now been released in the Philips box of the 10
symphonies. His newer recording with the Vienna Philharmonic, also for
Philips but DDD, uses the Nowak edition of 1877, including the "optional"
coda to the Scherzo. This version is the same that Sinopoli uses for his DG
recording from Dresden.
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Curtis Croulet

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Mar 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/30/96

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In article <Douv2...@midway.uchicago.edu>,

jl...@woodlawn.uchicago.edu (joseph louis rizzo) wrote:
>In article <1996Mar25.2...@tellab5.tellabs.com>,

>Craig Young <yo...@tellabs.com> wrote:
>>I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a
>>recording by Celibidache / Suddeutscher Rundfunk Orchester Stuttgart on
>>Exclusive EX93T59 that is a very nice performance. Sound is not real good,
>>but the orchestra and conducting sure are!
>>
>>Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?
>>
>

>Harnoncourt and Inbal, both on Teldec, should be sought out. The Inbal
>is a must own, because he uses a different performing version.
>
>>Craig Young
>>yo...@tellabs.com
>>
>

Harnoncourt has not been well reviewed (but I haven't personally heard it).

Deryk Barker

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Mar 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/31/96

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Curtis Croulet (curt...@pe.net) wrote:
: In article <Douv2...@midway.uchicago.edu>,

I have it. I can understand why it got bad reviews.

joseph louis rizzo

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Apr 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/2/96

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In article <4jkofd$2...@daria.cdnow.com>,

Deryk Barker <dba...@camosun.bc.ca> wrote:
>Curtis Croulet (curt...@pe.net) wrote:
>: In article <Douv2...@midway.uchicago.edu>,
>: jl...@woodlawn.uchicago.edu (joseph louis rizzo) wrote:
>: >In article <1996Mar25.2...@tellab5.tellabs.com>,
>: >Craig Young <yo...@tellabs.com> wrote:
>: >>I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a
>: >>recording by Celibidache / Suddeutscher Rundfunk Orchester Stuttgart on
>: >>Exclusive EX93T59 that is a very nice performance. Sound is not real good,
>: >>but the orchestra and conducting sure are!
>: >>
>: >>Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?
>: >>
>: >
>: >Harnoncourt and Inbal, both on Teldec, should be sought out. The Inbal
>: >is a must own, because he uses a different performing version.
>: >
>: >>Craig Young
>: >>yo...@tellabs.com
>: >>
>: >
>: Harnoncourt has not been well reviewed (but I haven't personally
>: heard it).
>
>I have it. I can understand why it got bad reviews.

Personally, the Inbal performance is the one I much perfer.

Laurent Planchon - Anacad

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Apr 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/3/96

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Curtis Croulet (curt...@pe.net) wrote:
: In article <Douv2...@midway.uchicago.edu>,
: jl...@woodlawn.uchicago.edu (joseph louis rizzo) wrote:
: >In article <1996Mar25.2...@tellab5.tellabs.com>,
: >Craig Young <yo...@tellabs.com> wrote:
: >>I am looking for another recording of Bruckner #3. I recently picked up a
: >>recording by Celibidache / Suddeutscher Rundfunk Orchester Stuttgart on
: >>Exclusive EX93T59 that is a very nice performance. Sound is not real good,
: >>but the orchestra and conducting sure are!
: >>
: >>Any suggestions for a great performance with better sound?
: >>
: >
: >Harnoncourt and Inbal, both on Teldec, should be sought out. The Inbal
: >is a must own, because he uses a different performing version.
: >
: >>Craig Young
: >>yo...@tellabs.com
: >>
: >
: Harnoncourt has not been well reviewed (but I haven't personally heard it).

It has been quite well reviewed in France (with one exception), and I find
it personally extremly good. Before hearing Harnoncourt's Bruckner, I was
almost unable to listen Bruckner for more than 10 minutes (except of the
6th of Sawallich). If you feel bored by Bruckner, just try Harnoncourt, and
you will probably change your mind.

Laurent Planchon

Roger Hecht

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Apr 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/12/96

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>Laurent Planchon

Don't know if these are on CD or not. Bohm (DG) , Jochum (DG or EMI),
Haitink ((Phillips, because he uses a different version)