The Best Rachmaninov Piano Concerto 3 Recording?
Havard Sorbo
So far I have:
Vladimir Horowitz / New York Phil. (Perfection?)
Tzimon Barto / London Phil. (Didn't like it at all)
David Helfgott / Don't know but it sucks
Leiv Ove Andsnes / Oslo Phil. (Awsome)
Arcadi Volods / Berlin Phil. (Also Good)
My question is, are there any good recordings i'm missing?
I think there is recordings out, with Rach. himselves playing, anybody
heard one of theese? Are the quality horrible?
sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il
In article <pan.2002.05.08.17....@chello.no>, Havard Sorbo <havard...@chello.no> wrote:
: I'm searching for good recordings of Rachmaninov's 3 piano concerto.
: So far I have:
: Vladimir Horowitz / New York Phil. (Perfection?)
: Tzimon Barto / London Phil. (Didn't like it at all)
: David Helfgott / Don't know but it sucks
: Leiv Ove Andsnes / Oslo Phil. (Awsome)
: Arcadi Volods / Berlin Phil. (Also Good)
: My question is, are there any good recordings i'm missing?
There's at least one: Argerich/Chailly. Some people like Ashkenazy/Previn,
but I found that whole set rather lacking in emotional involvement.
jpk
(8.110601 is #2 ). Mono, of course, but the sound is very good. Get
them, they're not only good, they're cheap.
"Havard Sorbo" <havard...@chello.no> wrote in message
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Sonarrat Citalis
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> I'm searching for good recordings of Rachmaninov's 3 piano concerto.
> So far I have:
> Vladimir Horowitz / New York Phil. (Perfection?)
> Tzimon Barto / London Phil. (Didn't like it at all)
> David Helfgott / Don't know but it sucks
> Leiv Ove Andsnes / Oslo Phil. (Awsome)
> Arcadi Volods / Berlin Phil. (Also Good)
>
> My question is, are there any good recordings i'm missing?
You bet...
> I think there is recordings out, with Rach. himselves playing, anybody
> heard one of theese? Are the quality horrible?
It's good enough that it remains on the top of many a list. Others you should
try:
Cliburn/Kondrashin (elegant more than anything)
Weissenberg/Pretre (the ultimate, IMO)
Vasary/Ahronovitch (slower, but it has a wonderful, idiomatic glow)
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Cliburn/Kondrashin is also a must.
JF
"Havard Sorbo" <havard...@chello.no> wrote in message
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HenryFogel
>From: Havard Sorbo havard...@chello.no
>Date: 5/8/2002 10:21 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <pan.2002.05.08.17....@chello.no>
>
>I'm searching for good recordings of Rachmaninov's 3 piano concerto.
>So far I have:
>
>Vladimir Horowitz / New York Phil. (Perfection?)
>Tzimon Barto / London Phil. (Didn't like it at all)
>David Helfgott / Don't know but it sucks
>Leiv Ove Andsnes / Oslo Phil. (Awsome)
>Arcadi Volods / Berlin Phil. (Also Good)
>
Cliburn/Kondrashin is very good.
Weissenberg/Pretre is stunning (one of my own favorites)
And I like the new Lang Lang recording - it is the opposite of
Weissenberg/Pretre. Weissenberg is driven, sharply chiseled, and on fire. Lang
Lang is dreamier, more poetic and lyrical -- a lovely alternative approach.
Henry Fogel
Reinder Mulder
Lazar Berman / Abbado / LSO (CBS'77)
If I cannot get a version on CD I would probably go for the Volodos
recording.
Reinder Mulder
Satid S.
Collect series (budget price) available on BROINC.COM. This is coupled
with no. 2. Both are passionately performed and well recorded. The first
movement of No. 2 is performed at a bit faster tempo than I was familiar
with, but I find myself adjusting to it and like it over time. A well
worth performance over all.
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Satid S.
Thailand
Martin Paton
<reinder.mu...@nospam.hccnet.nl> wrote:
>BTW - does anyone know of a recording by Lugansky?
Yep, I've got it.
It's on a double CD set released by a company called "Brilliant
Classics" with all the Rachmaninoff Concerti and Rhapsody on a Theme
from Paganini. The orchestra is the State Academy Symphony Orchestra
of Russia, conducted by Ivan Shpiller.
I paid £2 for the CDs here in the UK, brand new in a sale! The quality
of the recordings isn't great, but Lugansky copes fairly well. His
Rach 3 has a number of mistakes, especially in the 3rd movement. He
starts off too quickly and fluffs up the first 32 or so bars before
settling down.
Valour
> BTW - does anyone know of a recording by Lugansky?
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Hello !
Some information for you -
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NEWS :
Nikolai Lugansky will record the Rachmaninov Piano Concertos 1 & 3 in
July 2002 with the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra under Sakari
Oramo. The disc is planned for release in October 2002 on the Warner
Classics label.
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In 1995, Lugansky recorded the Rach 3 & 4 with the State Academy
Symphony Orchestra of Russia under Ivan Schpiller, on Vanguard
Classics, and this is still available on Brilliant Classics or
Challenge Classics.
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Comments from The Penguin Guide to Compact Discs
on Lugansky's Rach 3 & 4 as recorded on VANGUARD Classics :
http://Lugansky.homestead.com/Penguin2.html
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Comments from a listener who bought the CD from Amazon.co.uk:
Great artistry dulled by an indifferent recording,
7 November, 2001
Reviewer: (j...@brynheulog.demon.co.uk) from Cardiff, Wales
Of the two works on this CD, the third concerto has to be most
difficult to excel in against formidable competition. It is a
benchmark against which pianists are critically judged, and many are
found wanting. THe addition of the less popular fourth concerto makes
for good value.
I was fortunate to hear Nikolai Lugansky play 'Rach 3' live, with the
BBC National Orchestra of Wales, in St. David's Hall in Cardiff. It
was a magisterial performance, the pianist's impeccable technique
married to a heart-rending intimacy with Rachmaninoff's heart-on-the
sleeve Russianness. The experience was probably the high point of my
concert-going over 40 years.
Would that I could say the same about the present recording. Overall,
the sound is rather opaque and bass-heavy, and the piano is set too
far back for Lugansky to be properly heard. I prefer a more
'naturalistic' recording to a spotlit one, but this leaves the
impression of a hall with a poor acoustic.
Sadly, too, although the pianist's superb technique is much in
evidence, the magic of the live performance is lost. Perhaps the
constriction of a studio recording has led to a slightly 'careful'
approach - or perhaps I am unconciously making comparisons with that
concert.
Overall then, a worthy effort - but now that Nikolai Lugansky is
gaining deserved acclaim, I will hope for new recordings - a set of
the four Rachmaninoff concertos with the Rhapsody on a theme of
Paganini would be riches indeed. [END OF REVIEW]
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If you wish to discuss Lugansky's performances and recordings with
other people who are familiar with his work, please feel free to join
the mailing list at :
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Valour
Webmaster, The Nikolai Lugansky Web Site
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Francois Desnoyers
or Raphael Orozco, with Edo de Waart (the integrale)
notrump15-17
Dorati-LSO on Mercury.
Sonarrat Citalis
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> Try either/both of Byron Janis' recordings: with Munch-BSO on RCA; with
> Dorati-LSO on Mercury.
The Janis/Munch is one of the fastest uncut versions on record at a zippy 38
minutes, played at roughly the same tempo Rachmaninov took in his seminal but
badly cut recording.
Havard Sorbo
Speaking of good Rachmaninov recordings. Anybody know any good recording,
with all variations of Rhapsody on a Theme from Paganini. no 5, 18 and
24 at least.
Best Regards Håvard Sørbø
Francois Desnoyers
Jean-Philippe Collard (piano), orch. du Capitole de Toulouse, Michel Plasson
(1978)
Both are brilliant and very lyrical. The second suggestion is a bit more
passionate...
Francois