Classical Music in "Master and Commander"
Highwood
the books by Patrick O'Brian, the two protaganists are amateur
musicians. (a 'cellist and a violinist)
I recognized some music by Mozart and Bocherinni, which was very well
played by some anonymous studio musicians.
I sat through the credits, and saw that everyone from the gaffer to
the make up artists to the seamstresses were giving on-screen credit,
BUT NO MUSICIANS!!
Isn't it time that the orchestras, or at least the soloists get their
names listed on the credits??? Does anyone know why this is almost
never done??
Peter T. Daniels
They didn't have to pay anyone to use the music, did they.
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Peter T. Daniels gram...@att.net
Tom Daish
> I just saw the new movie, "Master and Commander". In the movie and
> the books by Patrick O'Brian, the two protaganists are amateur
> musicians. (a 'cellist and a violinist)
> I recognized some music by Mozart and Bocherinni, which was very well
> played by some anonymous studio musicians.
On the soundtrack, the classical excerpts are listed as:
Violin Concerto No. 3 - 3rd Movement - W A Mozart
Fantasia on the Theme by Thomas Tallis - R Vaughan-Williams
Adagio from concerto Grosso No. 8 in G Minor - A Corelli
Prelude from the Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 1 in G Major - JS Bach, Yo Yo Ma
- Cello
La Musica Notturna Delle Strade de Madrid No. 6 - L Boccherini
> I sat through the credits, and saw that everyone from the gaffer to
> the make up artists to the seamstresses were giving on-screen credit,
> BUT NO MUSICIANS!!
I admit that the above doesn't help with the performers, apart from with Ma.
However, they are likely licensed from the Decca back catalogue and one review
of the album indicated that performances were by the New Philharmonic Orchestra,
altough the notes don't make this clear.
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Tom
Soundtrack Express, nice...
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Michael Haslam
Non sequitur!
Very occasionally musicians are named. Stern for Fiddler on the Roof,
Perlman for Schindler's List come to mind. I think there was a film of
the Soldier's Tale in the 1950's which named the musicians. The LSO
(London Symphony Orchestra) are quite often credited. Part of the
problem is that musicians are quite happy collectively to fight for
better conditions of employment but poor when it comes to fighting for
better billing.
Also I think that some billing on films is to make up for poor wages.
MJHaslam
Nicolai P. Zwar
I agree with you that the orchestras and soloist should usually get
their names listed in the credits, but in my experience more often that
not that is actually done, even if the music is licensed from a back
catalog. I don't know why it is apparently not in this case.
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Nicolai Zwar
http://www.nicolaizwar.com
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
No, but they had to pay them to play it. Does that excuse them from
crediting the soloists by name? Most Symphony Orchestras, if there is
an extensive solo for any instrument, give the soloist mention in the
program, even if he IS "merely" a member of the orchestra.
Robert John Guttke
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <"evgmsop -no spam"@earthlink.net> wrote in
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Often on soundtracks you will find a solist mentioned. In some cases, such
as TUCK EVERLASTING the whole orchestra gets indiviudal mention.
In The Lord of the Rings films all soloists, including intrumental ones get
a mention.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
Interestingly (to me at least) in the movie "School of Rock", all the
music is credited--even the chamber version of "Concerto de Aranjuez" of
Rodrigo.
Steve
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Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
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Daniel Kolle
>I recognized some music by Mozart and Bocherinni,
And Bach's 1st Cello Suite Prelude.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
Peter T. Daniels
Recent enough to be under copyright.
paramucho
On the other hand the film makes the violin "cool" again.
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Q: How difficult was it to balance the physical training, researching
the role, and also trying to learn the violin?
Crowe: Well, the violin was definitely the hardest thing I’ve ever
done for films. You can take your helicopter stunts and your tiger
fights and your mathematics, it’s got nothing to do with how difficult
an instrument the violin is. The way I put it is, “She’s a harsh
mistress but there’s a grand reward if you keep your focus.”
[...]
"I knew somebody would do my bits and straighten them up, but you have
to learn them for a start to do the fingering. I knew the movie was
going to be full of running up and down rigging and sword fighting and
wearing the uniform and giving out orders and all that sort of stuff,
but it's a big part of Jack Aubrey, the fact that he plays violin.
"There's this art inside Jack — this big, bold man, this figure of
authority, but inside him he has the sweetness and gentility to coax a
beautiful sound out of the violin. I just thought it was very
important for the balance."
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Crowe’s character plays the violin and Crowe says he has “gotten to
the point where I know that I can make a beautiful sound.”
Dr. Bob
"Highwood" <High...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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How do you know there were musicians? Maybe they were playing MIDI files of
sampled sounds through Gigastudio or some similar program. Much music we
hear today from the fanfares on the evening news to television and motion
picture production to even Broadway and Vegas shows is produced by this MIDI
method. So if you don't see the credits of the musicians, chances are they
don't exist. It's a changing world out there and the days of the studio and
pit musician are fast coming to an end.
Bob
Thomas Wood
"Ghost of Time"
Composed by Iva Davies, Christopher Gordon and Richard Tognetti
Performed by Iva Davies and Icehouse
Featured Violin Performance by Richard Tognetti
Orchestrated by Christopher Gordon
"Endless Ocean"
Composed by Christopher Gordon and Iva Davies
"Violin Concerto no. 3 "Strassburg" K.216, 3rd Movement"
Composed by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
"O'Sullivan's March"
Traditional
"Spanish Ladies"
Traditional
"Raging Sea/Bonnie Ship the Diamond"
Traditional
"Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis"
Composed by Ralph Vaughn Williams
Performed by The New Queen's Hall Orchestra
(Barry Wordsworth conducting)
Courtesy of Decca Music Group Ltd. under license from Universal Music
Enterprises
"Don't Forget Your Old Shipmates"
Traditional
"Adagio from Concerto Grosso Op. 6, no. 8 in G Minor Christmas Concerto"
Composed by Arcangelo Corelli
"Prelude (From the Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 1 in G Major, BWV 1007)"
Composed by Johann Sebastian Bach
Performed by Yo-Yo Ma, cello
Courtesy of Sony Classical
By Arrangement with Sony Music Licensing
"La Musica Notturna delle Strade di Madrid. No. 6, Op. 30"
Composed by Luigi Boccherini
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I suspect the pieces that don't have performers listed were made
specificially for the film, and the others were existing recordings.
Tom Wood