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IK Joyce

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Mar 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/6/96
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[ Article crossposted from rec.music.makers ]
[ Author was IK Joyce ]
[ Posted on Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:57:13 GMT ]

Hi,
Does anyone know the address for the CD manufacturer PDO UK?
Apparrently they recalled all CDs made around 1985 because the silver
surface was peeling away and the CDs were turning brown.
I have a copy of Jarre's "Chrononlogie" which has started too peel
(Quite badly) and turn brown...this CD was made by PDO in 1993!!
I wan't to know if they will replace it.
If you have an address, e-mail me please.

Ian.

ik-j...@uwe.ac.uk

Angus Hepburn

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Mar 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/12/96
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Theodore Slotkin (slot...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: IK Joyce wrote:
: >
: > [ Article crossposted from rec.music.makers ]

: > [ Author was IK Joyce ]
: > [ Posted on Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:57:13 GMT ]
: >
: > Hi,
: > Does anyone know the address for the CD manufacturer PDO UK?
: > Apparrently they recalled all CDs made around 1985 because the silver
: > surface was peeling away and the CDs were turning brown.
: > I have a copy of Jarre's "Chrononlogie" which has started too peel
: > (Quite badly) and turn brown...this CD was made by PDO in 1993!!
: > I wan't to know if they will replace it.

: Send the disc number to this address and they will replace it:

: PDO Discs Ltd.
: Helpline
: Freepost
: BK1080
: Blackburn BB1 5BR
: England


: While you're at it, check all PDO discs pressed through 1991 -- a
: great many have this problem.

: Ted Slotkin
As I understand it, the problem may lie with the packaging rather than
the disc. Ihave read that the sulphur dioxide and other chemicals given
off by the booklet or inks used in the printing can penetrate the plastic
and cause tarnishing. At least that was the story for the early problems
... the more recent problems may be something different
Angus Hepburn

Peter J. Ullman

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Mar 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/12/96
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Haig Utidjian wrote:
>
> On a related point... I've discovered with alarm that I have five or so
> Deutsche Grammophon CDs that it is almost impossible to play on my new
> CD player, though they still play satisfactorily on my older, less sensitive
> machine. Funnily enough, out of a large number of DG CDs that I possess,
> all the ones -- and the only ones -- that cause this problem (quite violent
> clicking noises, occurring only during the music (no noises during the
> silences), are with "GEMA Made in UK" or -- in one case -- "BIEM/STEMPRA
> Made in UK" CDs. (Virtually all other BIEM/STEMPRA CDs are made in Germany
> or France, as are a number of other GEMA CDs. It is only the made in UK ones
> that manefest this problem.)
>
> One of the CDs that is in fact one of the worst offenders is the DG Karajan
> recording of Strauss' Heldenleben -- not the latest Karajan Gold one, which
> is coupled with Death and Transfiguration, but the earlier (1986?) release,
> which is still digital. The other offending CDs include the Orpheus Chamber
> Orchestra playing Bartok Divertimento/Janacek Mladi, and the COE under Barshai
> playing his arrangement of Shostakovich's Eighth String Quartet.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a particular problem with CDs manufactured in the
> UK in that period... is this simply coincidence? The CDs do not seem to be
> visibly different to ones that do not exhibit this problem... I really would
> be extremely grateful if anyone can advise me, as I would be most reluctant
> to approach the shop from which I purchased them (over the last five years or
> so) unless I am more-or-less certain of the position.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Haig.
>
> --
>
> For my biography and details of my conducting engagements please refer
> to URL http://www-control.eng.cam.ac.uk/hu/hu.html

Why not have your new CD player checked out? It would seem to me that
that is where the problem might be?

Perhaps you could tell us the brand and model numbers of both your old
and new CD players and that way other owners of these components might
also be able to give you some feedback.

Good Luck!

David Griegel

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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Haig Utidjian (h...@eng.cam.ac.uk) wrote:

: On a related point... I've discovered with alarm that I have five or so
: Deutsche Grammophon CDs that it is almost impossible to play on my new
: CD player, though they still play satisfactorily on my older, less sensitive
: machine. Funnily enough, out of a large number of DG CDs that I possess,
: all the ones -- and the only ones -- that cause this problem (quite violent
: clicking noises, occurring only during the music (no noises during the
: silences), are with "GEMA Made in UK" or -- in one case -- "BIEM/STEMPRA
: Made in UK" CDs. (Virtually all other BIEM/STEMPRA CDs are made in Germany
: or France, as are a number of other GEMA CDs. It is only the made in UK ones
: that manefest this problem.)

: One of the CDs that is in fact one of the worst offenders is the DG Karajan
: recording of Strauss' Heldenleben -- not the latest Karajan Gold one, which
: is coupled with Death and Transfiguration, but the earlier (1986?) release,
: which is still digital. The other offending CDs include the Orpheus Chamber
: Orchestra playing Bartok Divertimento/Janacek Mladi, and the COE under Barshai
: playing his arrangement of Shostakovich's Eighth String Quartet.

: Does anyone know if there is a particular problem with CDs manufactured in the
: UK in that period... is this simply coincidence? The CDs do not seem to be
: visibly different to ones that do not exhibit this problem... I really would
: be extremely grateful if anyone can advise me, as I would be most reluctant
: to approach the shop from which I purchased them (over the last five years or
: so) unless I am more-or-less certain of the position.

The one Deutsche Grammophon CD I had that was made in the UK went bad on me.
It was completely bronzed around the edge. So I don't think your case is
just a coincidence. I'd take them back to the store and exchange them.

Dave
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Marc Heijligers

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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Actually I also had some problems with PDO pressed discs (ASV, DG and
Decca). The ASV discs (complete Debussy piano works by Ferguson) showed severe
signs of oxidation, but they are still playable. I returned my discs to my
local shop, and he was willing to trade them (I even didn't bought my discs
there, but his service and expertise is always excellent). There seem to be
many problems to exchange the discs. The Dutch distributor is 'forgotten' that
the discs had been shipped back to them, and after a couple of months they
send 'new' discs. This shipment was accomponied by a bill (*#&*!@*) and the
discs were as severe oxidated as the orignal ones... So, now we can start all
over again...

The other discs that show a problem is an old discs from DG, from their
Resonance series, with a piece of the concerto de Aranjuz of Rodrigro, and I
also see some signs of oxidation on a Decca disc, Berlioz, Symphony
Fantastique by Haitink and the VPO.

I'd like to hear if anyone has any experience when you contact PDO directly
with this problem. Furthermore I like to ask whether anyone of you knows the
address of ASV in the UK, to contact them directly dsuch that I can complain
about their Dutch distributor.

Marc

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