On Horse Flieses ... (was News from NPR did it again!)
bike2work
decades. When they finally did a segment on the subject, all that was
mentioned was the non-harmonic aspects ... a syncopated rhythm
representing news teletypes, etc. NEVER was the source of the theme
discussed ... which sounded to me like an almost note-for-note
representation of a silly song from an old movie. But I couldn't
remember the name of the movie, and key-word searches yielded nothing
helpful.
I thought I remembered Fred MacMurray being in it, but the rest was a
blank ... except for the odd little song. So thank you, Kip Williams
for finally resolving the mystery of the mystery tune ...
> They also have used one that sounds like the familiar
> Gymnopedie, but which is actually a variation on the
> "All things considered" theme music by B.J. Liederman
> (which sounds a lot like the mysterious doggerel verse
> in "Murder, He Says" with the words "On horse flies is
> / in combs bees is...").
>
>-- --Kip (Williams)
Actually I recall the words being grossly slurred at first ... almost
nonsense syllables ... something like:
Honors flysez / Income beesez / Onchess nobbez / Innob keysez
Ultimately resolving into the mystery-solving clue:
On horse flies / In comb bees / On chest knob / In knob keys
Not that I recall in the least what the keys unlocked ... nor that I
ever imagined discussing it in a classical music forum!
CJ Egetter
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Peter T. Daniels
included more or less of B. J.'s original theme (I think the longest one
was something of Schumann's). They no longer credit "variations by Steff
Skadjarie."
--
Peter T. Daniels gram...@worldnet.att.net
Kip Williams
movie MURDER, HE SAYS bears a note-for-note resemblance to the theme
of "All Things Considered.]
bike2work wrote:
> Actually I recall the words being grossly slurred at first ... almost
> nonsense syllables ... something like:
>
> Honors flysez / Income beesez / Onchess nobbez / Innob keysez
>
> Ultimately resolving into the mystery-solving clue:
>
> On horse flies / In comb bees / On chest knob / In knob keys
>
> Not that I recall in the least what the keys unlocked ... nor that I
> ever imagined discussing it in a classical music forum!
I would guess it was a case of unconscious inspiration for composer
Liederman (who apparently lives not far from here in Virginia), but
I've never heard any official acknowledgement of the similarity on
NPR. Interested that they would give an analysis of it -- I missed
that one!
So, I wonder if they even realize that the themes are more or less
the same.
--
--Kip (Williams)
amusing the world at http://members.home.net/kipw/
bike2work
wrote (concerning similarity of NPR's ATC theme song and a mystery
tune from the 1945 movie "Murder He Says"):
> I would guess it was a case of unconscious inspiration for composer
> Liederman (who apparently lives not far from here in Virginia) ...
Absolutely! I wish I knew how much alike the tunes are. Bet they
are identical ... but my memory has tricked me before. I've ordered
the VHS tape from Amazon.com ... so, we'll see.
> but I've never heard any official acknowledgement of the
> similarity on NPR.
Nor have I.
> Interested that they would give an analysis of it -- I missed
> that one!
It was many years ago ... probably in the 1980s.
> So, I wonder if they even realize that the themes are more or less
> the same.
My question exactly, and, enboldened as I am with knowledge of the
title you have supplied and the fact there is at least one other
person that linked the two melodies, I'm going to crosspost this
thread to alt.radio.networks.npr and will report back any findings ...
Or if you wish, subscribe to the Newsgroup and check in with your
comments.
Or better yet ... mosey on over to Liederman's house in VA and
get it straight from the horse's flieses ... I mean mouth.
alabam...@gmail.com
Just glad I'm not the only one out here LOL
On Thursday, January 13, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, bike2work wrote:
> Amazing! I've been theorizing about NPR's ATC theme for years! Maybe
> decades. When they finally did a segment on the subject, all that was
> mentioned was the non-harmonic aspects ... a syncopated rhythm
> representing news teletypes, etc. NEVER was the source of the theme
> discussed ... which sounded to me like an almost note-for-note
> representation of a silly song from an old movie. But I couldn't
> remember the name of the movie, and key-word searches yielded nothing
> helpful.
>
> I thought I remembered Fred MacMurray being in it, but the rest was a
> blank ... except for the odd little song. So thank you, Kip Williams
> for finally resolving the mystery of the mystery tune ...
>
> > They also have used one that sounds like the familiar
> > Gymnopedie, but which is actually a variation on the
> > "All things considered" theme music by B.J. Liederman
> > (which sounds a lot like the mysterious doggerel verse
> > in "Murder, He Says" with the words "On horse flies is
> > / in combs bees is...").
> >
> >-- --Kip (Williams)
>
> nonsense syllables ... something like:
>
> Honors flysez / Income beesez / Onchess nobbez / Innob keysez
>
> Ultimately resolving into the mystery-solving clue:
>
> On horse flies / In comb bees / On chest knob / In knob keys
>
> Not that I recall in the least what the keys unlocked ... nor that I
> ever imagined discussing it in a classical music forum!
>