Equalizer settings for symphonic music?
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equalizer settings for listening to classical symphonic music? For some
time I thought that a 'flat' setting would be best, but maybe someone
has some ideas?
Frank.
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Actually the flat settings are the best. The sound engineer already did some
equalizing for you. But you can adjust the sound a bit. That depends on your
listening room. So we can´t help you there.
Dimitri
Kalman Rubinson
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>> Does anyone have any good tips (as subjective as they may be) to
>> equalizer settings for listening to classical symphonic music? For some
>> time I thought that a 'flat' setting would be best, but maybe someone
>> has some ideas?
> Actually the flat settings are the best. The sound engineer already did some
> equalizing for you. But you can adjust the sound a bit. That depends on your
> listening room. So we can't help you there.
FLAT unless the original is badly mixed and unbalanced. In fact, there's generally
no reason to have an equalizer unless one listens to many such recordings. A standard
EQ cannot compensate for room acoustics.
Kal
Peter T. Daniels
The only use I've found for an equalizer is on the car radio, where the
treble is all the way up and the bass all the way down to improve
intelligibility on AM talk (NPR, of course), which is just about all I
listen to there. If I do switch to music, both sliders go back to their
detents in the middle.
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John Carter
studio on far more costly equipment by experts to produce the best most
natural sound. It is claimed that a room with a distorted sound spectrum
can be equalised by domestic equipment. The only cases I have seen work at
all required Pro type digital equalisers and noise analysers. In all other
cases the sound might have been different but it was mostly worse. Domestic
equalisers were another device sold to us we didn't need. Use of the amps
own filters are mostly better on certain poor recordings as the slope has
been properly determined and the amount of effect limited.. I would swap
all the equalisers in the world for a good "Mono" switch.
John Carter Barsoom
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> The message <94bgbk$2h9$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
> from insol...@my-deja.com contains these words:
> > Does anyone have any good tips (as subjective as they may be) to
> > equalizer settings for listening to classical symphonic music? For some
> > time I thought that a 'flat' setting would be best, but maybe someone
> > has some ideas?
>
> > Frank.
>
> for correcting local problems in your equipment and room acoustics.
> You *can* boost the middle ranges to add presence, trim the top to
> remove hiss and surface noise, and boost the lower ranges to add
> bass, but all of these in my experience sound good at first but later
> make the music artifical and tiring to listen to.
>
> I suggest you look for a good audio test record with a sliding
> frequency track -- one that starts in low bass and rises to inaudible
> treble. You can usually hear (with your equalizers all set at flat)
> if your equipment or acoustics are unnaturally distorted -- a 'hump'
> in the bass is common, or a mid-range irregularity that affects vocal
> sounds -- and you can see if that is correctable with your equalizers.
>
> If you have got distortions in the frequency range it would be better
> to try first moving your loudspeakers around to see if that's the
> problem, or checking the setup of your CD player, turntable or tape
> deck. With well set up equipment I left tone controls behind two or
> three years ago and have never missed them.
>
> I would aim at leaving your equalizers flat, or at least in a
> straight line, unless you need to tweak one equalizer to deal with an
> irregularity in the audio spectrum.
>
> --
> Best wishes,
>
> David
> david....@zetnet.co.uk
>
> --
> Best wishes,
>
> David
> david....@zetnet.co.uk
>
Kalman Rubinson
> Equalisers are not a good idea.Most records have been equalised in the
> studio on far more costly equipment by experts to produce the best most
> natural sound. It is claimed that a room with a distorted sound spectrum
> can be equalised by domestic equipment. The only cases I have seen work at
> all required Pro type digital equalisers and noise analysers.
As I have said before, you cannot equalize a room with common equalizer, domestic or
professional-type, since the room's effects on the sound vary in time as well as frequency
and eqs work only in the frequency domain. There are digital room correction systems
which work in frequency and time domains (e.g., Tact RCS). They can be quite
effective but they are not cheap.
Kal
Baldric
I do the same plus I've found that the loudness button is a necessity
as well especially for playing CDs. Now, if I could afford a system with
noise cancelling technology....
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insol...@my-deja.com
use headphones to listen to classical music. I would assume that that
changes the issue.
Any ideas?
Frank.
In article <ekFa6.11$Cs4...@typhoon.nyu.edu>,
Kalman Rubinson
> Actually, I would like to simplify the issue by stating that I usually
> use headphones to listen to classical music. I would assume that that
> changes the issue.
Yup. Throw away the eq.
Kal
Jennifer Martin
like it does in real time and space, as much as possible?
Kalman Rubinson
> Isn't the obvious answer to set the eq (if at all) so that the music sounds
> like it does in real time and space, as much as possible?
If possible, of course, and as long as long as you know what that was.
Kal
Peter T. Daniels
> > The only use I've found for an equalizer is on the car radio, where
> the
> > treble is all the way up and the bass all the way down to improve
> > intelligibility on AM talk (NPR, of course), which is just about all I
> > listen to there. If I do switch to music, both sliders go back to
> their
> > detents in the middle.
> > --
> > Peter T. Daniels gram...@worldnet.att.net
> >
>
> I do the same plus I've found that the loudness button is a necessity
> as well especially for playing CDs. Now, if I could afford a system with
> noise cancelling technology....
I don't have a loudness button; for CDs, I have a doohickey that I think
I must have gotten the same time I got the car, 8 years ago now -- it's
from Koss, and it plugs into the cigarette lighter: a power cable goes
to an input on the player, and an audio cable goes to the Line Out jack
(distinct from the headphone jack), and it broadcasts to a vacant FM
frequency on the radio. It works a lot better in New York than it did in
Chicago -- I suppose there are fewer FM stations here. Sometimes the
reception is very good. One time I was playing Bach organ music and the
car vibrated like a SoCal lowrider ... (almost)
I hope it never breaks.
All the other outboard CD players I've seen have an attachment that goes
in the cassette slot, but I didn't want a cassette player in the car,
having had to replace three side windows in Chicago ... maybe if I ever
buy a car in NY, where it lives in a garage ...
insol...@my-deja.com
Hmm, time and space...No wait: REAL time and space. I have to admit
that physics is my hobby, so I think you're right: that is the obvious
answer. If we as a human race only knew WHAT that answer was...
:-)
I'm just kidding, but what exactly do you mean by time and space with
regards to equalizer settings?
Frank.
In article <20010121203933...@ng-fa1.aol.com>,
Jennifer Martin
>regards to equalizer settings?
I'm simply saying that if you want to use an equalizer, you might want to try
to set it so that the recording most closely resembles what music in a
performance space (space) when heard at the event (time) sounds like. I
wouldn't pretend to know anything at all about physics :-)
We can't know what each recording sounded like as it was made... the hall, the
ensemble, etc. But if you know what live music sounds like (in general terms)
it seems to make sense to adjust your system to as closely replicate the sound
of that ideal that is in your head as possible.
Jenn Martin
Kalman Rubinson
> We can't know what each recording sounded like as it was made... the hall, the
> ensemble, etc. But if you know what live music sounds like (in general terms)
> it seems to make sense to adjust your system to as closely replicate the sound
> of that ideal that is in your head as possible.
Correcting the balance of a recording is the appropriate use of an equalizer. I use a
Z-System RDP-1 parametric eq which has 99 memories so that one can recall the appropriate
settings for a particular recording.
Kal
Joe Salerno
sound reflections, standing waves, that sort of thing, which could not be
addressed by an equalizer. You might want to try a program like DCart or
Sound Forge XP that has a reverb processor.
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Kalman Rubinson
> What gives music its characteristic in time and space has more to do with
> sound reflections, standing waves, that sort of thing, which could not be
> addressed by an equalizer. You might want to try a program like DCart or
> Sound Forge XP that has a reverb processor.
You want the reverse: A processor that removes the reflections and
standing waves of the listening room so you can hear the ones from the
performance site. There are several real-time DSPs that will do this.
Kal
Joe Salerno
Thanks,
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Kalman Rubinson
> Please list the names of any DSP that can remove reverb.
Tact RCS and the SigTech. There are others.
Kal
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