Argerich, Beeth 2nd Concerto
Stan Szpakowicz
> I am reasonable sure she
>recorded this piece, (coupled with a Haydn concerto ?? EMI??)
EMI Studio, CDM 63575.
Or try her 1986 Concerti 1-2 on DG 445 504-2 (with Philharmonia, Sinopoli).
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Dan Koren
>This past summer, I had the pleasure of hearing Martha Argerich play
>Beethoven's 2nd piano concerto in NYC. This has always been (to me)
>the least satisfactory of the 5,
May I ask why? To my mind, the 2nd is by far the best concerto LvB wrote!
(And I'll let you guess which is the worst! ;-)) )
>but this was one of those (increasingly rare) concertgoing experiences
>that was absolutely revelatory.
I'm not surprised. That's Martha! She plays the Beethoven 1st and 2nd
concerti better than anyone in history (yes, that includes Lupu, Gilels
and Richter in the the 1st, and Schnabel in the 2nd).
>I'm reasonable sure she recorded this piece, (coupled with a Haydn
>concerto ?? EMI??)
Twice. Once with the Philharmonia conducted by Sinopoli (on DG 415682,
c/w Concerto no. 1). This is *not* recommended, largely because of the
way Sinopoli applies the brakes on everything. The earlier performance,
herself conducting the London Sinfonietta (on EMI CDM 7 63575 2), is
magnificent, as Carl Tait likes to say, unquestionably the greatest
ever (UTGE). It is coupled with a superb performance of the Haydn D
major concerto. This is one of the most frequently played records in
my collection!
>but I can't find it in Opus, and I can't find it anywhere.
Forget Opus. Opus is a joke. There's very little connection between
what is listed in Opus and what one can actually buy in stores. I've
seen this in stores not too long ago. It is also available on a CD
from Dischi Riccordi in Italy.
>I dimly remember seeing it in the discount bin, and I believe she was
>also conducted.
>
>Any info on the above (existence or lack thereof, availability, etc.)
>would be greatly appreciated!!
dk
Dan Koren
>Chabelo <cha...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I am reasonable sure she
>>recorded this piece, (coupled with a Haydn concerto ?? EMI??)
>
>EMI Studio, CDM 63575.
>
>Or try her 1986 Concerti 1-2 on DG 445 504-2 (with Philharmonia, Sinopoli).
The versions with Sinopoli are not as good.
dk
Yoshiyuki Mukudai
d...@netcom.com writes:
>> I'm not surprised. That's Martha! She plays the Beethoven 1st and 2nd
>> concerti better than anyone in history (yes, that includes Lupu, Gilels
>> and Richter in the the 1st, and Schnabel in the 2nd).
I've never been convinced by someone's interpretation of Beethoven 1st
concerto except Michelangeli's.
>> Twice. Once with the Philharmonia conducted by Sinopoli (on DG 415682,
>> c/w Concerto no. 1). This is *not* recommended,
>> The earlier performance, herself conducting the London Sinfonietta
>> (on EMI CDM 7 63575 2), is magnificent, as Carl Tait likes to say,
>> unquestionably the greatest ever (UTGE).
Since I have a impression that her Sinopoli version is no good, I listened
to her EMI recording again. Yes! It's, indeed, unquestionably ONE of the
greatest recordings of this concerto along with that Leningrad live of
a certain pianist named GLENN GOULD :-)
>> It is coupled with a superb performance of the Haydn D major concerto.
For me, the best Haydn D major recording is Michelangeli's.
Mukudai Yoshiyuki
Yoshiyuki Mukudai
d...@netcom.com writes:
>> In article <1994Oct24....@sfc.keio.ac.jp> I write:
>>
>> >I've never been convinced by someone's interpretation of Beethoven 1st
>> >concerto except Michelangeli's.
>>
>> Well, I'm afraid I'd have to disagree here, in spite of the fact that I
>> am as much of a Michelangeli fan as anyone.
>> >For me, the best Haydn D major recording is Michelangeli's.
>>
>> And I would have to disagree again.
I always respect your opinions even in the case I don't agree with you, so
I'm eager to know what prevents you from ranking his performances of these
works as the greatest ones.
I myself have studied and practiced Beethoven's concertos (Nos 1, 3, and 5)
several times. When I first studied his 1st concerto, I found that I couldn't
agree with any recordings of this work which I listened to. It was such a
time that I met Michelangeli's. In Japan, almost no one recommended and
recommend his Beethoven. I, too, belonged to those who didn't expect to find
something in it when I bought the CD. And I was completely blown away.
I think Gullini's accompaniment is also very thoughtfully and wonderfully.
I think his Beethoven is, basically, always very classical. In my honest
opinion, Michelangeli plays them very romantically, still he regards
Beethoven as a classical composer. I also respect Pollini's Beethoven, but
it is, I think, the opposite to Michelangeli's in this sense. It seems to
me that Pollini thinks of Beethoven as a romantic composer who lived in the
period between classical and romantic era. And I agree with Michelangeli.
>> >Since I have a impression that her Sinopoli version is no good, I listened
>> >to her EMI recording again. Yes! It's, indeed, unquestionably ONE of the
>> >greatest recordings of this concerto along with that Leningrad live of
>> >a certain pianist named GLENN GOULD :-)
>>
>> Let's be serious.
Argerich's Beethoven concertos recordings are very good, or rather great.
But, Gould 2nd is also *superb* !!! And this doesn't mean I agree with
his idea.
Mukudai Yoshiyuki
Farhan Malik
> I'm reasonable sure she
> recorded this piece, (coupled with a Haydn concerto ?? EMI??) but I
> can't find it in Opus, and I
> can't find it anywhere.
This time the OPUS is correct. The EMI disc is not listed in the
International EMI Master Catalog and is therefore out of print.
Farhan
Marilyn Miller
>
>This past summer, I had the pleasure of hearing Martha Argerich play
> I'm reasonable sure she recorded this piece, (coupled with a Haydn
>
If the EMI recording is nla (as others suggested), try looking for a Denon
CD (35C37-7322). I bought a couple years ago (and don't know how long
Denon keeps items in its catalogue). (And, for those Argerich fans who
haven't heard it, conducting herself she *does* beat the time with Sinopoli!)
P.S. I envy you! I splurged on dynamite seats for her performance of this
concerto in Ann Arbor two years ago, but she canceled on the morning of
the concert. All would be forgiven if she'd just come back!
KENNETH Q WONG
>In article <38e65o$3...@newsbf01.news.aol.com>, cha...@aol.com (Chabelo) says:
>>
>>This past summer, I had the pleasure of hearing Martha Argerich play
>>Beethoven's 2nd piano concerto in NYC. ...
>> I'm reasonable sure she recorded this piece, (coupled with a Haydn
>>concerto ?? EMI??) but I can't find it in Opus...
>>
>If the EMI recording is nla (as others suggested), try looking for a Denon
>CD (35C37-7322). I bought a couple years ago (and don't know how long
>Denon keeps items in its catalogue). (And, for those Argerich fans who
>haven't heard it, conducting herself she *does* beat the time with Sinopoli!)
>
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